Middle Lane Hogging

Here's out and about with Thames Valley Police and confused .com to find out about 'middle lane hoggers'...

[@Smufter69]

Glance over at a middle lane hogger when you overtake them. They all have one thing in common. The look of a person recovering from a lobotomy.

[@pifko87]

Or they're looking down at the phone on their lap.

[@david1731048]

I always stare at them, but alas they don't have a clue what the problem might be.

[@jackanory-balamory]

I always do the stare them make a point of returning to the lane one in front of them just to drive home the point

[@peanuts2105]

Thanks for making me laugh out loud 😂

[@EdBenji]

Are you one of those lane hopping ass clowns?

[@theautobreaker]

The amount of cars you see joining the motorway and heading straight for lane two is unbelievable

[@Coffeedrinkerer]

I also notice that if you do the right thing a pull into lane 1 it can be really hard to get back into lane 2 if it’s busy so people just stay in lane 2 to be safe. I will always try to let someone out of lane 1 if they are going similar speed to keep the whole flow going but it seems people are just thick sometimes.

[@johnobrien2207]

Or lane 3

[@trevorford9432]

Yes as a hgv driver it's amazing how many do it the other way go from the right hand lane across from lane 3 across 2 & 1 to leave the m,way and almost miss the exit, too much speed and no forward planning (I bet young drivers have never read a highway code) do they even print them anymore ??

[@julianmorris9951]

It’s people dawdling at 50mph in lane 1 are the problem, it’s 70mph and there’s more risk of an accident if your in and out of lanes trying to pass the 50mph dawdlers!!!! If they want to do 50 mph then take a A-road for God’s sake!!!!!

[@johnobrien2207]

@@julianmorris9951 ...Still have trucks and vehicles existing and merge onwards to motorways

[@Mod-rw9cw]

As a regular motorway driver I see this all the time. It’s like a disease amongst people especially with SUV vehicles. I pass them every time in the left hand lane at 70mph when they are doing 65 in the middle lane. They flash at me beep their horns but never ever move. 🤪

[@haider7866]

You should do a pit manoeuvre on them, take them off the road for good

[@Luton-Mick]

Boomer's or Karens usually in those stupid looking buggies.

[@dandougherty]

Typical morons doing what morons do. LANE 1 unless overtaking but these fools haven't a clue.

[@taxidude]

First rule of the road!! Learned it at 6 years of age on my cycling proficiency test! KEEP LEFT! It's not rocket science!

[@chuckg4910]

Same in the US, many think they're supposed to keep left until it's time to exit.

[@Chirpingcherub]

@@chuckg4910 yeah I’m assuming your rules are just the opposite of ours (keep right)?

[@chuckg4910]

@@Chirpingcherub yup.

[@DataLog]

@@Chirpingcherub Yes

[@footyball66]

keep left? so everyone has to drive in the slow lane?

[@VitorCoelho6]

"oh, you were not aware of it? Got it, so, I'll take your license. You can go apply again to restart as a learner" There, fixed.

[@neiljohnson1773]

Absolutely agree.

[@mervynsands3501]

That would sort it! .... right? Better still make everyone take a ten year driving test to prove they've not got into bad habbits, and are up to date on traffic law regulations. You see too much sloppy careless driver behaviour everyday, cutting corners, risk taking just to try and beat others, until they screw up, and crunchtime ensues.

[@CraigNiel]

That would only work if motorway driving was taught in lessons as a learner, which it is not. So taking someone's license away and making them apply again would achieve nothing in regards to motorway driving.

[@VitorCoelho6]

@@CraigNiel sad to hear people don't have lessons in motorways over there. I asked for in my course right after learning the basic's (as it would be my main need of a car)

[@CraigNiel]

@@VitorCoelho6 It is, I personally think it should most definitely be covered in lessons and as part of the driving test.

[@pleasantville4529]

"I didn't know I was doing it" That's undue care and attention right there.

[@wozwoz7107]

Totally agree, literally doesn't surprise me - they are brain dead.

[@julianmorris9951]

I sit in the middle lane because of people dawdling at 50 mph on the inside lane, it’s 70 on the motorway and if you can’t do that then you shouldn’t be on the M-way.

[@neiljohnson1773]

@@julianmorris9951 you should move back to the left unless youre overtaking. If theres a long line of people doing 50mph then you need to think..1 why? and 2 what if theres a reason...if its 2 or 3 then move past and then pull back to the left. The guys doing 50mph in the left lane are obeying the law. If youre in lane 2 or 3 or even 4 unnecessarily then youre the one breaking the law.

[@ottotater2787]

So are you saying that facetiously Or are you admitting to illegally in dangerously getting in 1 line and staying there against the very directions that were here to watch right now?

[@pleasantville4529]

@@soulman3590Im Confused to death by that post too! I thought I could read and understand the English language! It seems that I was wrong.🤔

[@richardforbes9700]

When you’ve overtaken a vehicle, move back in to the lane on your left when safe to do so……..it’s that simple.

[@fenrichlee2867]

For arrogant selfish people it's not simple at all because they take their horrible ways out into lane 2 with them.

[@footyball66]

I honestly get more annoyed with the slow moving traffic in the slow lane + traffic constantly filtering into that lane. I also get more more annoyed with BMWs coming up at 90mph behind me every 30 seconds. I have no idea why people never complain about this, but complain about people in the middle lane. All you have to do is wait for the person in the middle lane to go past, then you can move across, or if you are in the fast lane, you can just continue further down the road to overtake the vehicle in the middle lane before moving over. If you are in the slow lane your journey is going to be far more hindered by lorries than middle lane drivers. If you are in the fast lane your journey is going to be far more hindered by BMW drivers than middle lane drivers.

[@ulysseskruger6095]

@@footyball66BMWs are coming up behind you doing 90, because you’re in the fast lane passing a middle lane hogger

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

Yes but do so at the same speed you needed to get over in

[@mickkirton7943]

​​@@footyball66Did you have the sound off or skip the end of the video where the chap in a hiviz explains there is NO fast or slow lane ?

[@JohnSmith-rw2yn]

4 years after this video, it's still an issue. I sit in Lane 1 with 70mph cruise control and I hold my hands up I have just undertaken and cruised past people sat in the middle who then flash me but still don't move over.

[@michaelmurray3800]

So try slipping in behnd them then shift to go pass them on the right. Cut in front of them (at a safe distance) and move back into lane 1. That would infuriate them if they are paying attention to what is happening around them. lol

[@woodyswheels6236]

@@michaelmurray3800 but they don't pay attention to anything around them that's why they're sat in the middle lane in the first place.

[@footyball66]

I don't think there is an issue with middle lane hoggers per se, I think the issue is with them driving too slow. There is probably also an issue with people in lane 1 driving too fast. I would say that if you are driving at 70mph on a motorway then a lot of the time you would be better off in lane 3 than lane 1. I assume as you were in cruise control at that speed then the motorway was pretty quiet so in that case I think middle lane hogging at 70mph is the safest possible way to drive in that scenario. You are away from any traffic driving under 70mph in the slow lane, you are out of the way of anyone doing 70mph+ in the fast lane and you are going at a speed where nobody in the slow lane will be undertaking you unless they are a maniac.

[@JohnSmith-rw2yn]

@@footyball66 but there is now slow or fast lane. its an overtaking lane and as per the UK highway code you should keep to the left unless overtaking. Granted the speed limit is a limit not a target, but to sit in the middle to be safe is dangerous. Its actually considered an offence you can be prosecuted for it.

[@lukekelly9616]

@@footyball66 Any lane can go faster than any other lane.

[@davehodgkinson2784]

And that's why we will never have unrestricted speed motorways. Lane discipline in this country is woeful. I'd give every last one of them 6 points everytime they're caught. No excuses it's just crap driving skills.

[@eddielong8663]

It can't be worse than here in Australia. "SPEED KILLS, SPEED KILLS, SPEED KILLS" 🚔 🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔 That's all they f@#$%&g say. Like yeah, no shit, Sherlock. But there's a difference between driving dangerously way over the limit and weaving in and out of traffic like a blowhard, and simply just going as little as 6km/h over (sometimes accidently). There's also no distinction between a poorly maintained rural road (where it's easy to have a head-on collision if driving stupidly, and a perfectly safe (and mostly empty, this is Australia afterall) regional freeway with a divided barrier. "Speed and ONLY speed kills".

[@silasfatchett7380]

I'd settle for 3 points if only the rules were enforced.

[@user-ge6dy1ru6x]

SUV drivers often lack confidence and mental flexibility to change lane / position/ speed to aid traffic flow. When parked, SUVS obstruct lot of vision for crossing pedestrians and 2 wheelers. They are not sporty at all , more " AUTO-OBESITY 😅" really. Take ages to accelerate and slow down with size and weight. Keeps brake and tyre industry in business. And mechanics servicing and repairing them whe drivers hit things as their vision is obscured by those big A, B, C pillars. We need brains , not metal or certain german badges on the roads.😅

[@mruppity64]

I form the impression that both of them where being "economical" with the truth

[@andypandywalters]

My instructor always said if you can stay in lane one for at least 30 seconds then use it.

[@peeet]

That's a very good rule of thumb.

[@ShainAndrews]

That's what she said all right.

[@PSNragglefraggle1]

Tell that to the raging pickup truck on the M4 that harassed me for using lane 2 to overtake a mile of HGVs. Why he didn't use lane 3 or 4, I'll never know 🥴

[@neiljohnson1773]

I got told if there's room to undertake you youre in the wrong lane. Similar thing

[@edwardwilcox6606]

The standard of driving in the UK is at an all-time low & this manifests itself on the motorways better than anywhere else. Middle-lane hogging is making the ability to get anywhere quickly virtually impossible, & now I`ve noticed a huge increase in outside-lane hogging over the last year or so. Very little is being done to curb or educate so guess what.....people suffer longer journey times & for some much higher blood pressure!

[@125brat]

@@edwardwilcox6606 And the answer to that seems to be to build even wider roads with 4,5 or more lanes resulting in the 2 nearside lanes being empty because everything is in the outer lanes. As always, it's pointless having rules and laws if there's no-one to police them. I would however imagine it is possible to utilise cameras and AI to catch offenders so bring it on!

[@rogueuniversities6866]

I think undertaking should be legal if someone is hogging the middle lane - as the cop was - as that lane should be used for overtaking, which means, if you're going slower than the speed limit, the traffic in that lane should be passing you - and then going to to the left lane safely ahead of you. If you're doing the speed limit and overtaking traffic in the middle lane, that traffic should not be there.

[@seankinvarra1123]

I think all drivers should know that undertaking is already legal and has been for 50 years.

[@RobJT]

It is legal 🙈

[@liamc7097]

Err...... They spent the entire time in the middle lane themselves

[@alanturner9609]

A new driver once told me that on a three lane carriageway the speed was lane one, 50. Lane two, 60. Lane three, 70. That was an eye opener for a sixty years experience driver like me.

[@benhardcastle2305]

Well this is just completely false they’re all 70 mph and in fact U shouldn’t really be in lane 3 unless ur doing 80+

[@JimboCruntz]

You actually find this is common amongst all ages. My experience tends to be that people who passed in the 70s and 80s have the belief that the lanes are speed based. I’ve also had older people suggest the motorway is some form of weird dual carriageway and the longest slip road in the world, where you are supposed to be in the middle lane, the right lane is for over taking and the left is for leaving the motorway. 😂 I think the fact that lessons have never included motorway driving and the fact that at least one half of drivers are either nervous, dangerous, scared, completely incompetent or a mix is why things like middle lane hogging will be around forever.

[@dartskipper3170]

@@benhardcastle2305 At which you are breaking the National speed limit.

[@benhardcastle2305]

@@dartskipper3170 yeah but people don’t drive at the speed limit

[@jhareng]

@@JimboCruntz Not at all you will find thats those that have never had to take a test ie drove in the army at 20mph and given a licence. Always been 70 in any lane but expect to come up to HGV limited to 58mph in lane 1 and 2. 70's and 80's drivers were aware of their surroundings and respectful, seeing whats coming up well behind them a lot quicker they pulled over. Soon as you passed they pull out and overtake. Not with this modern infested breed, they pull out to self police the road.

[@FuknNoName]

This is such a chronic issue. I have Just driven back to the UK from Poland. 15hrs to Antwerp and everyone moves over. You’d be rammed if you hogged a lane. Driving fast through Dortmund at night and everyone is maintaining speed and moving over. Then 3hrs to Calais this morning all fluid. Get off the eurotunnel and the shit hits the fan. The M20 is fucked due to brexit, southbound is a truck park. And then the M25, lane hoggers in all lanes. Everyone doing random speeds. It was the most stressful part of the entire journey. Huge stretches of 40mph due to congestion….. Then M25-M40. Ffs it seems none of them have any clue. M6 near Nantwich was surprisingly good, people all moving over.

[@georgemorley1029]

Found the exact same coming back from Belgium and France three months ago. Appalling standards.

[@mikehunter2844]

Cop: "There we go the Audi has just undertaken us" . The Audi has just undertaken (legal) you because you are lane hogging (illegal), you idiot... No wonder so many drivers don't know the Highway Code.

[@highdownmartin]

He has passed a slower moving lane of traffic which on this occasion is to his right

[@mikehunter2844]

@@chipperjack8914 Where in the Highway Code did you get that from? It has been legal since 1972

[@chipperjack8914]

@@mikehunter2844 268. Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

[@seankinvarra1123]

​@@chipperjack8914What law????

[@RobJT]

@@chipperjack8914totally legal dude, learn how the Highway Code works.

[@barrycaldwell5461]

"no i didn't know that at all" he say's, then look at the highway code which he should have studied when trying to pass his test,it's a £100 fine and 3 points if you sit in the middle lane

[@Monkey-Magic]

I've not heard of anyone getting a fine or points for it , seems to be no deterrent for it, it should be made an example of, no need for it . 👍

[@johnlang3233]

Barry please can you tell me where it says that in the Highway Code ?

[@Monkey-Magic]

@@johnlang3233 think the highway code is online, might be a good read for you.... 👍

[@johnratcliffe6438]

@@Monkey-Magic There used to be years ago, when we had a much larger and more active Traffic Police presence.

[@Monkey-Magic]

@@johnratcliffe6438 bring back the good old days mate 👍

[@dockerandy]

They knew alright, they were just playing ignorant. ignorance of the law is no excuse, ticket them all !!

[@footyball66]

policeman should be ticketed for tailgating and middle lane hogging, also.

[@MetalVII]

0:05 Including you so it seems..

[@charliew6024]

You can literally see them overtaking a car

[@trainradioz1303]

Coming from Australia, its weird to see that people are getting pulled over for staying in the middle lane. Why is this a law over in Britain? I genuinely don't understand. From where I live, you are allowed to use any lane and overtake/undertake on any lane as well. The only rule is that you must keep off the far right lane if you're not overtaking anyone (on a road with a speed limit of over 80kph or when there's a sign)

[@SteveMcIlhennie]

Similar to US and Canada.

[@ChrisHazz]

It makes the road flow better, sit in the left lane unless overtaking, these morons effectively narrow the road so you have to go across 2 or more lanes. Basically it's caused by people that can't drive.

[@trainradioz1303]

@@ChrisHazz What do yall define left as. Cuz in Australia there's signage saying "keep left unless overtaking" but "left" is defined as any lane that is not the far right lane (excluding turning lanes)

[@SteveMcIlhennie]

@@ChrisHazz If the left lane is clear you can keep up your speed and pass the slower vehicles on your right.

[@Inigo_The_Son]

@trainradioz1303 I don't get it either. The rules are different in the USA. Right lane is for slow vehicles, left lane is primarily for passing, and middle lanes are for everybody else.

[@Arfabiscuit]

I got to say in France people use the motorways properly in England motorway driving is horrendous .

[@keepcalm5026]

@@stephenpearce3641 Totally agree. You really don't want to be dawdling in the fast lane in Europe.

[@NebraskaGonvilleJones]

@@keepcalm5026 You mean in lane 2 right

[@keepcalm5026]

@@NebraskaGonvilleJones you know what mean, the outside lane either 2,3 or even 4. 😎

[@PillSharks]

I take it you aren’t including the drivers in Paris with this statement!

[@TheophilusPWildbeest]

The Place de l'Etoile is hilarious. One day I was stood watching it in amazement, then realised other tourists were doing the same. Scary driving but no accidents, so stick to taxis.

[@Coffeedrinkerer]

I was of the understanding that more motorway accidents are caused by people disrupting the flow of traffic. So let’s say you sit in middle/ fast lane bang on 70mph and don’t move across if it’s empty, you could then be holding up numerous cars behind you that were all comfortably doing say 75mph. You causing them to have to slow down/ brake causes a chain reaction to the cars behind you increasing chance of accident. It also increases congestion making the motorway less efficient. I think there should be more fines and penalties for those hogging lanes and not necessarily for speed (unless obvious dangerous driving). Ironically it’s sometimes more dangerous to do the speed limit as not everyone else is expecting it and you aren’t the Good Samaritan you think you are 🙄

[@mikehunter2844]

The reason hoggers cause congestion is because most drivers think it's illegal to pass the hogger on it's left. If a hogger is doing 50mph the rest slow down to that speed. That makes them equally responsible for holding up traffic.

[@adamlea6339]

@@mikehunter2844 Not so much the legality, more the risk. Undertaking carries the risk of the middle lane hogger deciding to move to lane one without bothering to check their mirrors thus sideswiping you (if they are hogging the middle lane there is a good chance they are gormless enough to do this), and if you were involved in an accident whilst undertaking, you would very likely take a share of the blame since in at least some circumstances it could be classed as careless driving. The problem then is eveyone has to move into lane 3 to overtake the hogger, which slows lane 3 down due to the traffic density, then EVERYONE ends up creeping past them with a speed differential near walking pace. This is the reason I find it tedious to come across a lorry overtaking another lorry.

[@mikehunter2844]

@@adamlea6339 A driver in lane 1 may not check their right side view mirror and smack into the one who is overtaking. It is the one who changes lanes without checking it's safe to do so is the one Driving Without Due Care and Attention. If it's an offence to undertake then it would be an offence to drive alongside a car in lane 2

[@andrewc6380]

Motorway driving is not taught in lessons but “keep left unless overtaking” is, and is common sense to anyone with half a brain. You hog the middle Lane and you effectively reduce a three lane motorway to a two lane motorway due to undertaking being illegal.

[@seankinvarra1123]

No. Hogging does not reduce it to 2 lanes. The speed limit is 70mph to all lanes. If someone is doing 50mph in lane 3 that doesn't mean the speed limit to the other lanes is reduced 50mph. There is no law that prohibits undertaking.

[@paulwainwright967]

Er you were in it as well , as far as I am concerned you weren't using it correctly so you got under taken serves you right .

[@JohnDoe-cf7jr]

Er..the copper was in the middle lane as were others because the guy in the front of them all was “middle Lane hogging”. He was trying to make a point to his female interviewer. God give me strength 🙄

[@NebraskaGonvilleJones]

Wow dude, “serves you right” says a lot about your driving habits. I suspect it’s people like you on the roads that fuck it up for the rest of us. Idiot

[@adrianrouse5148]

We do have a poor understanding of Lane usage. I meet this problem all the time.do I cross several lanes to overtake.or just undertake.when somebody undertakes you don't you think .I am in the wrong Lane?

[@footyball66]

it's either that you are in the wrong lane or they are in the wrong lane. I have seen some people deciding to do 75mph in lane 1, so of course they will end up undertaking at that speed.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

The only hoggers that are a problem are the ones who stay at the same speed as those to their left. In that case you have to make multi lane changes to get pass . If they are moving slower than lane 1 then you can udertake them.

[@telmas7183]

Trying to get my head around the fact that the police officer is doing exactly what he is condemning from the start of the clip! He's not overtaking any vehicle but is in the middle lane! Then says he's being undertaken ( which I'm not condoning ) by a vehicle that is in it's correct lane!!! Talk about pot, kettle & black!

[@shawnrahoon6789]

Nothing wrong with undertaking.

[@Alloneword-cp2xw]

@@shawnrahoon6789 lol wrong!! Stay off the roads. You're not quite up to it yet.

[@shawnrahoon6789]

@@Alloneword-cp2xw I know something about the code that you cannot disprove. Find for me what law states undertaking is illegal. Are you saying all bus drivers who always undertake are not with it. Get a driving licence before you leave a comment, kid.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

@@Alloneword-cp2xw He's right though!

[@footyball66]

The funny thing about this video is.... 1. The policeman is middle lane hogging. 2. The policeman is not a safe distance from the van in front of him at 0:24. 3. The policeman is more concerned about middle lane hoggers than the undertaking audi. You can't criticise people for a minor offence such as middle lane hogging then proceed to allow other offences to slide whilst tailgating another vehicle.

[@lukekelly9616]

No need to be concerned about undertaking, it's perfectly legal..

[@footyball66]

@@lukekelly9616 depends on how you interpret the law. If you are in congested traffic then of course it's allowed. Not sure this road in congested enough to allow for undertaking to be legal. Either way it's a minor offence, as is middle lane hogging. The worst thing that is being done in this video is the tailgating, even by the police officer.

[@lukekelly9616]

@@footyball66 I just go by the wording of the Highway Code. The only time a rule is back as up by law is if it uses the words Must or Must Not.

[@mikehunter2844]

@@lukekelly9616 Good to see theres someone who knows the code. 👍

[@irishflyer6377]

Five years on and its not any better on the motorways. I have for years done high mileage up and down the UK and not only do drivers sit in lane 2 but now with more 4 lane sections they like to sit in lane 3. This causes delays and accidents however its not getting addressed partly because police forces are relying on Speed Camera to manage the roads, which are great at monitoring speed but useless at managing other bad and dangerous driving practices. We need more human management out there and often it doesn't need a fine and points just a good old fashion talking to would do wonders for most drivers, this might also get driver to use rear view mirrors.

[@ricwilki6254]

A colleague once told me that she always sat in the middle lane so she didn’t have to think. I told her that was one of the scariest things someone had ever said to me! 🤷‍♂️

[@33LB]

i've seen people say they don't want to use lane 1 because it's the most dangerous lane on smart motorways as that's where you're most likely to get a broken down car. wouldn't lane discipline be improved if motorways had a hard shoulder?

[@kennykewn5182]

No

[@footyball66]

the problem for me isn't the middle lane hogging, it's the speed they go at. If you are in the middle lane and travelling at 70mph - I don't see how that is going to cause issues as people in 'lane 1' shouldn't really be travelling any more than 70mph.

[@adamlea6339]

@@footyball66 Speedometers are not perfect. 70 mph on one speedometer might be 65 mph actual speed, so even if two cars are travelling at 70 mph as indicated on their speedo, the chances are one car will be faster. I see it all the time on motorways my speedo reads low compared to the satnav.

[@mrbadger9920]

Middle lane hogging is very frustrating but it is equally stupid to keep pulling in and out constantly if there are lots of HGVs in lane one doing 56mph and you are doing 70mph. Common sense is required

[@UKDrivingTest]

You need to do something called 'forward planning' most drivers have not heard of this, but here is a short summary. If you are going to be overtaking someone soon (say in the next 10-20 seconds) then stay in the overtaking lane, if you are not overtaking soon then return to lane 1. It is very difficult concept to get used to, but if you can just put your phone down for 5 seconds you will be able to try the forward planning when driving.

[@leegearing3297]

But its lazy driving if you dont return to Lane 1 as the earliest oppurtunity after overtaking, also 70 is the Limit not a Target, if everyone else is doing 60 mph trying to reach 70 isnt practical. Keep left unless overtaking, everyone is taught this.

[@adamlea6339]

Middle lane hogging is not overtaking a convoy of HGVs. Middle lane hogging is sitting in lane 2 when there is no traffic in lane 1 to overtake, or at worst, vehicles in lane 1 are going faster.

[@andrewhudson8966]

Inside lane(left lane)is for travelling at normal speeds up to 70mph,the middle and outside lanes are for overtaking only

[@lordbelvoir2543]

But not above 70mph as all 3 lanes are 70mph

[@andrewhudson8966]

Obviously

[@billyporter1389]

You can also undertake in lane 1.

[@footyball66]

for me, people are looking at this all wrong. What is the actual issue with someone hogging the middle lane? there is no issue. What the issue is....is the speed they are going. If someone does 70mph in the middle lane then it shouldn't really be causing other drivers a problem in my opinion. So hogging is not the issue, speed is.

[@lukekelly9616]

@@footyball66 Because their clock reads 70mph their true speed would be a few mph less.

[@richardsprojects]

I didnt realise i was in the middle lane , frightening really

[@tnimbus]

Last time I had a run in with a middle lane hogger was on an empty M5 on a Sunday night and I overtook him making a point of it, The cnut turned out to be an un-marked cop car that then pulled me over. I argued out of it.

[@davidjones8680]

A much bigger problem are the fully paid up members of the Non-signalling Lane Exchangers Club.

[@RichO1701e]

Good drivers don't need to rely on other road users to use their indicators. Good drivers can see and predict lane changers.

[@davidjones8680]

@@RichO1701e Give driving around the west side of Birmingham a go for a day. I can guarantee you will be swayed around to my way of thinking.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

And still, drivers who don't know how to drive, sit in the middle lane and don't have a clue what's happening around them. Lane 1 Driving. Lanes 2 and 3 are overtaking lanes and not to sit in and drive for XX miles without overtaking anything.

[@imryangallus]

asking them to move over and they look at you like you just fisted their dog too, total idiots

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@imryangallus Hehehe. "....fisted their dog...." Couldn't have put it better myself :-))...

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@plum_bit So if there is no one in lane one, you still stay in lane two? if that's the case, then your the person everyone hates for just sitting in lane two.

[@Coffeedrinkerer]

Glad there’s other intelligent road users. The fact I get excited when I see proper lane discipline is rather telling of how bad it’s gotten in the UK 😐

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@Coffeedrinkerer Even if the motorway is relatively busy and at the speed I'm going, which is never more than 70 mph(🙄 Speed doesn't kill. Bad driving does!), I will always move into lane one, even if only for 10 seconds providing there is a suitable gap and I'm not catching the slower drivers in that lane too quickly. Also, by using your mirrors, eyes, brain et al, then changing lanes as the traffic dictates, makes you a hell of a lot more aware of what is be coming up in front and what might be behind you too. I believe that's called road sense which a crap load of drivers totally lack. As for getting excited to see someone else driving correctly. I know what you mean. But it's getting rare 8-))..

[@K13-X]

6 years later and it’s only got worse

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

Make them go through the whole Licensing Program, starting from L plates!

[@borderlands6606]

Since the 60 mph limit for trucks came in, lane one is difficult for cars to use. If you are doing less than 60 in an old car or towing or out for a cruise, expect a continuous line of lorries overtaking with each one taking up to a minute to compete its manoeuvre. At 65 mph a driver can expect to negotiate endless trucks on their way to the inside lane, and the middle lane blocked from any attempt to pull out again. Add the many exits/entry points of urban motorways, and the 70 - 90mph nose-to-tail traffic jam that operates in lane 3, and it isn't difficult to see why drivers use the middle lane unless the road is clear.

[@richardsprojects]

You're obviously part of the problem , I drive motorways as a car driver and towing at times , ive been to the top of Scotland and right down to Cornwall and never had a problem keeping left .Its all to do with driving ability and awareness of whats happening around you

[@patbirdmusic]

@@richardsprojects literally mate. People will sit in the outside lane the whole time on a dual carriageway just because they're turning right at the end of it. If I have time to change lane to undertake you then change back to the lane you were blocking, you had time to stay left.

[@RobJT]

I drive 90 miles on the motorway every day and never encounter what you are talking about. Pure fantasy to excuse your bad driving.

[@borderlands6606]

@@RobJT if you think it's fantasy, I suggest you try a mpg test optimised at 57mph. This is a perfectly legal motorway speed, and common for towing vehicles, classic cars, slower motorcycles and older campervans. See how long before you need to overtake another vehicle or they need to overtake you.

[@RobJT]

@@borderlands6606 I basically always drive at about 60-65 and have zero difficulty overtaking and pulling back into lane 1.

[@julianhoskins5158]

I see it so much in particular at night..... I come up to people, who are driving in lane 2, I move from lane 1 to lane 2 (because I shouldn't undertake) I flash them, they pull over to lane 1 and then as soon as I pass them they move back into lane 2!! They are fully aware of what they are doing but for some mystical reason a lot of people just prefer to drive in lane 2. What we need is TV prime time evening driver awareness short 30 sec videos, like we had for kids in the 70s not to talk to strangers etc. That would educate the everyday "driver" who is just oblivious!

[@imnotabotrlyimnot]

Does the UK have exits on both sides of highways?

[@Wayfarer-Sailing]

Basically no.

[@jaymorris3468]

Just keep left unless overtaking, it's not rocket science.

[@ShainAndrews]

I don't believe rockets use lanes.

[@superancientmariner1394]

Didn't know.....How did you get your licence?

[@user-ck6kq8zl2i]

The other thing that really pisses me off is someone leaving it right til the last second to get into the inside lane to exit the motorway. They have plenty of opportunity to get in the lane in time but no, they stay in lane 2 or 3 then cut across and exit. Pricks.

[@TDK054]

Very common in the UK. In other countries, you have a ticket for that

[@jgdooley2003]

Also extremely common in Ireland. The Irish drive on the left so the rules should be broadly similar to those in our neighbouring island, drive on the left and pass right. What really happens is that a lot of drivers immediately move to the middle lane on joining the motorway, even if lane 1 is empty. Others go straight for lane 3 and camp out there, afraid to move in when lane 2 is empty. It often happens that more progress is made in using lane 1 as it becomes the fastest lane of the 3 lanes. This is not by accident, I have often followed Police on their routine journeys without high speed or lights and the lane 3 cars ahead of them miraculously move in to let the cops, and me, go by. The rate of moving in drops dramatically when I am on my own and I would consider it exceptional that anyone would move in when I try to make progress in lane 3. It appears to me that many motorists using lane 3 in a slow manner are too wilful or lazy to move in for mere civilians but are only too well aware ot the proper rules and procedures when faced with the authorities.

[@theworldsbonkers]

4 years ago and within those four years the problem has got a lot worse. I get so annoyed with selfish/ stupid people sitting in lane two for absolutely no reason.

[@footyball66]

just join them. would be much easier. and if u need to overtake them you can just move over 1 lane into lane 3.

[@JS-ri2rx]

The amount of those who cant drive and have every excuse going its amazing. Nothing worse than a lane hogger or brake checker. Get off the road

[@kirkclarke7396]

The reason you hate the way others drive is because you one of those tail gaters who are too scared to change lanes lol

[@JS-ri2rx]

@@kirkclarke7396 what a load of rubbish. Why bother replying

[@footyball66]

I have mainly been a lane 1 or lane 3 driver and I don't really remember ever having an issue with middle lane hoggers. I am more likely to get angry with traffic joining the motorway or lorries when in lane 1, and more likely to get angry with tailgating speed merchants when in lane 3.

[@mikehunter2844]

Hay Mr Traffic Poleeceman, get your facts right. Undertaking is not illegal . Even if it's in fast moving traffic.

[@mikehunter2844]

@Debs Crokaert Do you know that Ashley Neal only discovered that undertaking was legal last year on KZbin from his own channell? On that video he said undertaking is legal but classed as dangerous driving and you will be prosecuted for doing it. Like saying you won't but you will. And you believe that? I think you should read the HC and take note of wordind that makes a rule into a law.

[@mikehunter2844]

@Debs Crokaert What Ashley failed to mention is what words are used to to make a rule a legal requirement. Those exceptions he gave are only advise and not law. driversmocktest.com/uk-highway-code-wording-explained/

[@jeffzuess9149]

You see four lane motorways with most of the traffic in the outside two lanes, what a waste. Now imagine six lane motorways and still only the outside two lanes being used.

[@Coffeedrinkerer]

Exactly, don’t need more lane just need to use the existing ones properly! I think driverless cars will eventually sort this out but we are a long way off

[@jgdooley2003]

This is the real tragedy in misuse of public resources on a motorway or highway. The managements of most companies use a measurement called utilisation in measuring performance of capital machinery being used and they rightly insist on a high figure for utilisation. If lane 1 is empty most of the time by drivers using lane 2 all the time then your 3-lane motorway is only using 2/3 of its capacity. Lane 1 is effectively wasted.

[@seankinvarra1123]

Doesn't matter if the outer two lanes are full. If they are going under the speed limit they can be undertaken in the other two.

[@davidjones8680]

But ociffer, I'm a fully paid up card carrying member of the middle lane owners club. I joined years ago just after I passed my driving test.

[@BF1GUN]

So 4 years on (2020), I see this every single time I'm on a motorway, without fail. Only yesterday, I'm in lane 1, a car is ahead of me also in lane 1, there is nothing ahead of him and no one in lane 2 or 3, but the guy in front thinks it'll be nicer to just move into lane 2 and sit there. It drives me bonkers,. If the police want to bring in revenue, just get out there and see what I see every day, you can't avoid seeing these pricks just poodling along without a care in the world or awareness of the tailbacks they cause due to the stacking up of other cars. Dickheads.

[@mikehunter2844]

Just pass him on inside and stop getting stressed out.

[@steveh3206]

@@mikehunter2844 Then he gets a ticket for undertaking. Most people prefer to stick to the rules and not lose their license. Nobody should have to break the rules just because someone else is. This causes a lot of stress because it slows two lanes down instead of just one. Too selfish and too lazy to just move over after overtaking and let everyone else get on with their journey.

[@mikehunter2844]

@@steveh3206 Undertaking is not an offence. Lane hogging is. Surely you don't expect all traffic in lanes 1 and 2 to move over to an already busy lane 3 then back again after overtaking? Lane changing along with tailgating are the two main causes of collisions on motorways.

[@steveh3206]

@@mikehunter2844 You can get £100 fine and 3 points on your license (Fixed Penalty Notice) if it's deemed to be careless driving which is totally at the discretion of the policeman/woman who sees you do it. I would rather not take the chance unless there is built up traffic and it would be more of a risk to keep changing lanes, as per the highway code. Yes I would expect people to move back over after overtaking, again as per the highway code. Under normal circumstances lane 1 is where everyone should be unless the person in front is driving slower than you. In that case you move into lane 2 to overtake and only go into lane 3 to overtake slow moving traffic in that lane. If there is congestion it's fine to undertake as long as you are already in the faster moving inside lane. As you said, unnecessary/excessive lane changing in congested traffic is dangerous.

[@mikehunter2844]

@@steveh3206 It would only be deemed as careless driving if done with an offence like careless lane changing or speeding. Staying in lane one passing slower moving traffic (hoggers) is not an offence. Any cop that thinks otherwise just doesn't understand the Highway Code and especially Rule 268. www.bikerandbike.co.uk/undertaking-is-not-illegal/

[@peanuts2105]

The highways agency should use their dot matrix displays above the motorway saying "keep left unless overtaking"

[@stestar09]

Tailgating dickheads are the bigger problem, they cause accidents through rear end smashes , they leave no gaps for those that do use lane 1 , to move to lane 2 when their time comes . Thats a reason a lot don't like to move to lane 1 as it can be a struggle to get back in lane 2 & 3 as the majority of drivers now tailgate thinking there race drivers .

[@lukekelly9616]

Unlike the police, the Audi driver knows there is nothing wrong with undertaking.

[@prof2bobajob.klonded5]

Is the lorrie lane classed as the slow lane

[@freethink4291]

Motorway driving is not covered in the car driving test. Is it any wonder there are so many out there, oblivious to motorway regs?

[@Xerxes1337]

"keep left unless overtaking" Everyone know that.

[@ahassen1236]

They should flash these notices on the gantries: 'For safety reasons and to avoid a fine keep left if not overtaking'

[@SeekTruthandKnowledge]

It is not an offense to drive for longish distances in the middle lane!! The highway code says that you should (not must) drive in the inside lane when the road ahead is clear.

[@stephenmudiecastles.2938]

Why should people not hog the middle lane? After all who is going to do anything about it? Why should people use their indicators? After all who is going to do anything about it!? Why should people use roundabouts correctly? After all who is going to do anything about it? Less and less police officers (who can be as bad a driver as the best of them) on the road so who is going to do anything about bad driving? You only have to look at the dashcam videos on here to see how bad some peoples driving is. Speed cameras are not there to make money as most people think,they are just a cheaper option than spending the trillions that it would cost to pay for safer road policing. Maybe taxing cyclists and pedestrians who want to use the roads might help paying for it!!

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

Maybe the lollipop man or woman should charge the schoolkids for guiding them across the road. Or maybe turnstiles at zebra crossings.

[@marklimonci998]

That Audi didn't undertake. It passed but no evidence of it moving into lane 2. If traffic in lane 2 is slower than lane 1 its not undertaking

[@shawnrahoon6789]

Changing lanes before an undertake is exactly what I said, changing lanes. To undertake is to pass another vehicle on it's left hand side. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@tosspot1305]

The audi DIDN'T UNDERTAKE HIM. It's shameful that a traffic cop said that. The Audi passed on the left. Lane 1 was clear, everyone hogging Lane 2 INCLUDING the police car so the Audi passed. Its only undertaking if you switch back to lane 2 after you pass. He should have a better understanding of the traffic laws he's going around busting people for

[@lukekelly9616]

Can you tell me where you got that information from. Undertaking is passing on left, like overtaking is doing it on right.

[@tosspot1305]

@@lukekelly9616 It's in the Highway code

[@lukekelly9616]

@@tosspot1305 The Highway Code is advise except where it uses the words "must or must not" Overtaking on the left does not use these words. The HC doesn't use the words "kerbside" or "near side" or " pass on left" neither does it say you have to move from a right to left lane, undertake then move back to the right. If you are correct then tell me how far in seconds does the car directly behind have to be to move into left. And the same returning to the original lane?

[@igorkratka]

Ok, from video I understand what they say. This makes sense on reasonably busy motorway. How to solve the issue when the traffic is dense on some parts of motorway- for example M6 Between Wigan and Preston? Lots of cars in every lane and lots of cars joining lane 1 from frequent slipways, lots of cars leaving, too. I found out that in certain situation it is better to remain in middle lane or lane 3 if you are not about to leave motorway anytime soon while lane 1 is used by cars leaving and joining. Or we can do it by the book- everyone in lane 1 struggling at 35 mph....no reason to even overtake....because after every car and truck on Lane 1 is another, and another, and so on. Should all cars struggle on lane 1 and keep lane 2 and 3 nice and empty for the sake of the rule? I noticed something similar in the city on 40 mph speed limit on 3 lanes carriageway. Let`s say that we go from outskirt to the city centre and and by following this rule we should keep left whenever possible. But what if frequently cars are parking and blocking lane 1 and lane 3 is often blocked by cars turning right on traffic lights? I realised that if I go straight for a couple of miles, it is simply more practical do 40mph on middle lane in an orderly manner rather than constantly changing lanes avoiding parked cars and causing chaos .

[@copaloadofthis]

Well said Sir !! Sometimes rules can be broken..

[@billyporter1389]

If vehicles are slow in lanes 1 and 3 then Pass in 2.

[@jgdooley2003]

The problem is with drivers using lane 2 when there is no one in lane 1. You do not have a problem when there are cars in lane 1 which you anticipate you will overtake in a reasonable time frame. The problem arises when there is no one in lane 1 for miles and all the traffic is in lane 2. The problem is compounded when slow traffic occupies both lane 2 and three, especially if they match speeds to form a rolling road-block. 1 car can cause unnecessary delay if it matches speed with a slow car in lane 2 and does not overtake it. Part of the problem is lack of practical training on motorway driving for learners who are then forced to learn the proper techniques of motorway driving on their own. Failing the possibility of government introducing a motorway element to driver training and testing, there should be at least a TV campaign stressing the need for lane discipline and using the leftmost lane for driving in as much normal traffic as possible and being at least aware of build-ups behind you if you are camped out on lanes 2 and 3 and nobody in lane 1.

[@billyporter1389]

@@jgdooley2003 The problem is the idiots of driving instructors telling their students it's illegal to pass on left except in "slow moving" traffic. That is total rubbish.

[@borderlands6606]

@@billyporter1389 It's legal to pass on the left when a slip road is approaching and road markings change. It gets complicated when slower vehicles avoid an inside filter lane several miles in advance, especially on hills. This means someone waiting to leave the motorway has to decide whether to stay put on the inside of whatever is crawling to his/her right (probably with a queue of traffic on their tail), or gamble on pulling out into lane 2 and 3 and getting back in time for their exit.

[@ColinRylanderWilkes]

And the big point is when safe to do so, if the left lane is empty then use it, weaving and undertaking is more dangerous

[@combatwombat71]

What frustrates me is having to make 4 (FOUR!) lane changes to overtake a 65mph middle lane hogger who is never going to move over anyway. Undertaking is safer - there are no lane changes at all.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

No you don't have to make multiple lane changes to pass a hogger and get back into lane 1. Driving instructors tell you this rubbish but cannot back it up. Look at Ashley Neial's video on undertaking.

[@JamesRosen22]

Anyone recognise the original gadget show theme tune?

[@connormalone6239]

Genuinely hate people that hog the middle lane especially when you want to overtake and some tool is just sat in that lane, and that lad at the end saying he didn't know it was illegal it's on the theory test 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mikehunter2844]

What about the other two lanes? You can use either of them to pass the hogger.

[@ChrisHazz]

Middle lane hogging just gets worse, it's now every age group, drives me nuts, especially the ones that don't like to change lanes, if you don't like changing lanes then you're a crap driver.

[@pawelmoskwa6842]

ok so on left lane cars go usually 60mph because of the trucks mainly,, so i want to go 70mph all the time and i need to basically keep switching lanes,.. its just stupid

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

If you're overtaking lorries why would you go back into lane 1?

[@jonbradbury3843]

They’d all know it was illegal if there were enough police on the roads

[@Landy13oy]

Well said but why don't they teach this on driving test

[@yashinrupani]

A new driver who's just passed their UK driving test has no experience driving on motorways. Additional training is required for motorway driving. Try the British School of Motoring's "Pass Plus" programme. It helps a lot! I've heard of it, but never taken it. I live and drive in Canada.

[@peterkelly2465]

It's because they are taught to pass a test not how to drive.

[@jhareng]

@@yashinrupani I passed with BSM had 5 lessons including test and got told to do so first time out on dual carriageway.

[@35deedub]

Exactly, it's ridiculous that it is not statutory, If everyone were properly educated (as common sense has all but gone out the window) then the speed limit could be raised. If everyone used the motorways 'correctly' they would actually work

[@Kerbal_fever]

​@@peterkelly2465 It absolutely is taught and you will fail your test if you do this.

[@johnbev2336]

So many gantry’s along the motorway, they can be used for information like middle lane hogging. Tailgating, reminding drivers to slow down. Indicating in advance when changing lanes.

[@everythingtechnew7400]

Was you aware until it was just pointed out to you that robbing this Bank was illegal. Nah, nah I didn’t know that at all.

[@tedsmith6137]

Of course, this is a only applicable in the UK where you aren't allowed to pass on the left, but can park facing any direction you like! In Oz you can pass on the left but must park closest to the left side of the road, not facing oncoming traffic. Rather arbitrary actually.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

You'd want to read up on the UK Highway Code. Undertaking also called overtake on left or near side overtake is legal in UK up to the speed limit.

[@keithcolman9868]

So the exit count down signs, ///, // and / tell you which lane you need to be in when coming off 😏

[@Coffeedrinkerer]

I recon an option to resit your provisional on the first offence and then 6 points for every repeated offence of hogging lanes. 3 chances and you’re out should be enough for even the most dense and self entitled members of the public

[@ivorjones6618]

keep left at all times except when overtakeing drivers dont use mirrors as they should its not hard to do the standard of driving is falling year on year

[@seankinvarra1123]

@@ivorjones6618 do you use mirrors?

[@lesliefuller1456]

The copper is almost right when he says there’s lane 1,2,3 and so forth, however, there is the lane you should be driving in and the other 2 are overtaking lanes. Overtake and move back, it’s not rocket science.

[@cbrboy76]

But the police figures on people being prosecuted for middle lane hogging are awful. They do absolutly nothing about it. The audi at the begining was within his rights to undertake as long as he did'nt move into lane 2 after the undertake.

[@davidjones4762]

if they are doing less than 70 in the middle lane why sit behind them just over take

[@Cody-zd2ye]

Keep left at all times unless overtaking god give me strength the latest trick is they go into the outside lane to allow us truckers to pass them on the inside then return to the middle lane through the fuckin roadworks omg

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

Equally as stupid is the one who won't pass the hogger on the inside because they think it's illegal and hold up the ones who know the Highway Code. There's a few of them on here.

[@Legendary4030]

@@Seanmcdhuibhne Oh the irony. Undertaking is not legal - even if it's because of lane hogging - and can lead to you being prosecuted for careless driving. Reference - www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q891.htm

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

@@Legendary4030 So could overtaking, if it's carried out carelessly, so could entering or exiting a motorway, if carried out carelessly. Any manoeuvre that's carried out carelessly or dangerously can get you prosecuted. Passing on inside is not illegal so you cannot be prosecuted for it. If that was the case then driving alongside a car to your right would be careless driving.

[@Legendary4030]

​@@Seanmcdhuibhne There are circumstances were overtaking on the left is legal, but that doesn't include passing a lane hog. I added the link as it goes into more detail, but by reading your reply I'm guessing you didn't have a look. A little copy and paste of the important bits: Motorway driving: "Rule 268 of the Highway Code - Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake." Offence: "...whilst there is no specific offence of overtaking on the left, if a driver undertook another vehicle, other than in the circumstances described above e.g. in the case of someone hogging lane 2 on a motorway, they may be prosecuted for careless driving." You can have a look at the link yourself to see when it is okay to overtake on the left.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

@@Legendary4030 The wording of the Highway Code are sometimes misunderstood by those who read them. Rule 268 is not law but only advise and if it were illegal to undertake it would use the words "Must Not" rather than "Do Not". ......"in the case of someone hogging lane two on a motorway they "may" be prosecuted for careless driving" it doesn't say they "will" or "would" be. Again I'm saying simply passing another vehicle on it's left is not an offence whether it be on a motorway or any road that has two lanes in the same direction. www.bikerandbike.co.uk/undertaking-is-not-illegal/

[@qbarnes1893]

Ignorance and stupidity come to mind, the inner left lane in the UK IS the correct lane to drive in, regardless of how many lanes there are, unless you are passing another vehicle or obstacle. Couldn’t be any simpler... or could it, for some individuals

[@raycrawley2059]

Then there are those (women mostly) that will move into lane 2 because there's a junction ahead. People that move into lane 2 because 1 becomes a slip road 2 miles further down... I go from 1 to 2, flash them, then to 3, overtake, back to 2 hazards on then back to 1.

[@philpinto]

How can you have a driving licence and not though this?

[@philwright8269]

Motorway lessons should be part of the driving test. No wonder people middle lane hog or use the Motorway incorrectly if they've never been taught how to drive on it. Sure.. they should read the highway code, but when was the last time you did?

[@Kerbal_fever]

ADI's can now take students on the motorway. But its not practical to insist on it being in the test. For a start not everyone is near one (Mine is 30 min away)and the examiner knows nothing about the student before they turn up. They could have just booked it themselves without lessons hoping to wing it(stupidly this happens). I do 2 hour lessons on the motorway. Its an absolute game changer for them.

[@mikehunter2844]

You can learn all you need to know about motorways on a duel carriageway. Also if there is a hogger in front in lanes 2,3 or more you can pass on left whether in congested traffic or not.

[@philwright8269]

@@Kerbal_fever Maybe do the driving test in modules?

[@philwright8269]

@@mikehunter2844 This should be a start then!

[@Kerbal_fever]

@@philwright8269 Yeah i like the idea of this but i comes down to logistics and cost. Tests are booked up until the end of Feb where i am so adding extra load to the system isn't something anyone wants.

[@yaboykawz]

These people should have their license taken away

[@CycolacFan]

In an ideal world all the vehicles will be travelling at the same speed and just using lane one. Two and Three will be completely empty. If the Americans can deal with overtaking on both sides surely we can in the UK?

[@seankinvarra1123]

Probably because most Brits think it's illegal to undertake.

[@CycolacFan]

@@seankinvarra1123 because the law is extremely vague, it’s not illegal but the police may deem it an offence if they feel it is dangerous. ‘stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left’ so if they’re driving at 65mph I can undertake legally at 70mph. Unless the police decide I can’t.

[@seankinvarra1123]

@@CycolacFan There is no law against it to be extremely vague. The police could pull you in for any manouver that's carried out dangerously. Can you give me an example of why you would be pulled in by the police?

[@CycolacFan]

@@seankinvarra1123 I don’t really understand your question, as you’ve already said the police would pull a driver over for anything they consider dangerous or unlawful.

[@seankinvarra1123]

@@CycolacFan Do you think undertaking is classed as dangerous driving? The rule (advice and not law) on overtaking on passenger side is legal in both US and UK. Why do the majority of UK drivers not know this?

[@Thespian-wp6xq]

They saunter down the slip road, practically stop to give way and then jump straight into the middle lane.

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

In America you can stay in any lane but the passing lane. It's annoying when people camp in the middle because they are always going slower than the people on both sides which causes accidents because people switch lanes to go around them and one car from the left lane and one car from the right lane both get over at the same time causing them to crash.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

What's more annoying is most drivers in UK think you have to go all the way around a hogger to get pass. That takes multiple lane changes. That is more likely to cause accidents than undertaking.

[@GayorgVonTrapp]

The introduction of 'Smart' motorways in the UK has proved too much for some ... same with four lane motorways. That Audi wasn't undertaking. He was passing a slower car in the middle lane. It's as much as some folk can do to put their pants on in a morning .... the rest of the day is somewhat of a challenge.

[@RobWoodhouse46]

Officer I'll think you'll find it's a "driving lane" and the others are "overtaking lanes". Calling them 1,2,3 etc doesn't help people (Muppets) understand how the lanes should be driven.

[@soundseeker63]

"And the Audi has just undertaken us".... He says thats unusual behavior from an Audi driver lol Tbh I must admit I will occasionally undertake people too if they are lane hogging for no reason. Far, far to many people do it and it f*ing annoying! Perhaps they could put up some sort of message on the huge LED display boards that many motorways now have to tell people not to do it!

[@tomf4547]

Something wrong here, shouldn't they be in the town centre harassing subjects of the UKSSR 🤔

[@bellerophonchallen8861]

how often do you sit in a queue of traffic for ages, creeping forward, expecting some horrible accident and then suddenly, everyones doing 70 again and there's nothing, all caused by one of these idiots in a ripple effect back down the motorway.

[@sheenharper4403]

Come over to the US. I undertake all the time... going the speedlimit

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

That's legal in UK. Unfortunately not many Brits know it.

[@Wessexshire]

7 year old video and it’s still a massive issue. The worst type of middle lane hogging, the ones who sit there and cruse at sub 70mph. Useless.

[@andypandywalters]

They should refresh themselves with the Highway Code sometime!

[@footyball66]

If everyone was driving based on the highway code for motorway driving we'd all be in lane 1 driving under 70mph and overtaking the odd granny or lorry doing 65mph. Lane 1 would be congested and lane 3 would never get used.

[@andrewgage6942]

The last guy, he said he didn't know it was illegal to drive in the overtaking lane, if he doesn't know the highway code, take his license away, sorry if that sounds harsh, but try being a truck or coach driver, especially when you have deadlines to meet, the first guy, sorry but what sort of bs was that, I've heard of middle lane hogging, I seem to recall it being mentioned a few years ago, I wasn't aware I was doing it, pay attention to what you're doing, and, is it me? We drive on the left, what's the left lane for? Is it there for good measure? I've held a license for nearly 40 years, I know that there's a driving lane and one, two or sometimes three overtaking lanes, and my final point, the Audi driver, unless they moved from the overtaking lane into the driving lane and back into the overtaking lane, they didn't undertake, they passed whilst making progress in the driving lane, they had a clear road ahead, they used it

[@billyporter1389]

The Audi undertook the cop car. Nothing wrong with it. It's been a legal manouver for almost 50.years.

[@BossySwan]

Weight of the dude’s double chin was slowing him down

[@snodgee]

This will be a thing of the past when all cars have speed limiters as no one will be able to break the speed limit

[@MrDarkmenace1]

What's the first rule of the road? Keep to the left.

[@ashtea23]

Its because there is no rules or a test on your driving licence to operate a vehicle on the motorway

[@lukekelly9616]

No difference to a dual carriageway.