Midea u shaped 8000 btu window AC variable capacity and power consumption testing and review

[@บุญฉัตรทิติ]

*We're very happy with the unit. Pretty Easy to instal **Fastly.Cool** too.*

[@miker252]

The outside air temp directly effects the condenser side head pressure and the wattage needed for the refrigerant to condense. Here in AZ when the temp often reaches 105 degrees the condenser pressure would be around 530 PSI where at 80 degrees you are looking at about only 370 PSI. That which would make a big difference in wattage at full capacity. Another variable is, with only 60 degree room temp, the unit would need to limit it's capacity to avoid icing of the inside evaporator coil. I would imagine the unit is designed for peak operation at around 100 degree outside air and 72 degrees inside air temps and 50% humidity. That being said, Variable Capacity with it's added benefit of soft starting, which in the past was only available with commercial AC, are a tremendous improvement over traditional residential designs.

[@4seeableTV]

You know your stuff. Good info.

[@MG-dc4wr]

Hi, when the PSI you've mentioned in your reply - when it goes lower from 530 to 370 PSI in your example, that means the compressor will consume more power? Thank you, Moses

[@MG-dc4wr]

Hi miker252, when the PSI you've mentioned in your reply - when it goes lower from 530 to 370 PSI in your example, that means the compressor will consume more power? Thank you very much, Moses

[@MG-dc4wr]

Thank you very much - I really appreciate that, Moses

[@kaer.453]

Thanks for the review....but what I'd the name/brand of your wall paint color. It's beautiful!

[@AFluffyMobius]

Hey thanks so much for doing this video. I had a Friedrich CP06G10B 6,000BTU and while it was nice and quiet (it had a sheet-steel divider between the two halfs) it did EXACTLY what you mentioned, which was make the humidity go up when i was running it. I thought i was going crazy but i guess from your comment that is actually a thing. I sold it to a friend so im looking to get a different one. I think im going LG next with your comment on how good of an experience you had with them. Although funny enough, some of Friedrich's window AC's are actually re-branded LG models. Also fyi, LG is coming out with a 8,000 BTU Dual-Inverter. Model "LW8021IVSM", apparently coming out sometime in January 2022. Probably going to go with that one myself if they come in stock.

[@koreymayo8884]

Thanks so much for telling me that! I was originally hoping to get a 6000 btu LG 6019 model next spring, but there's no wifi on it and I keep wanting LG to make smaller inverter ACs and now they finally are! I had no idea! Now I finally have an LG to compare with the Midea 8000btu inverter! I just have to find out which will remove moisture better a 6000btu single speed or an 8000btu inverter. At least the inverter model will have wifi controls. I just wish they would make 6000 btu inverters for small rooms.

[@koreymayo8884]

So I've seen that new model 8000 btu dual inverter from LG for a few months now on a few websites, but it still isn't on LG website and I have called LG several times and they are completely clueless about that model! They did tell me that they support that model, but couldn't tell me if they will be making and shipping out more units or not and couldn't tell me when it will be in stores and on their website. It still isn't on home depot website or lowes website. I hope this changes soon! For now I just ended up ordering a 20 pint dehumidifier for my bedroom since the Friedrich window AC has been making me sick from high humidity, but I like that you can put automatic timers with different temperatures on the app making it like a programmable thermostat on a window AC!

[@AFluffyMobius]

​@@koreymayo8884 Yeah its pretty strange. There's an online store called "appliancesconnection" that ive been checking and the LW8021IVSM been in "available" for a few months. But on other pages for that site, other models say "in-stock". I've been meaning to call "appliancesconnection" phone number to see what exactly is up with it. Hope the new dehumidifier works out for you in the mean time!

[@AFluffyMobius]

@@koreymayo8884 I think they changed the name to LW8022IVSM instead of LW8021IVSM. When you google the new one, there's actually a energystar tag that comes up unlike the other one. Also on "pcrichard" their website shows it can ship now, might be worth looking in to. It's a bit pricey though, especially since the 9500btu is usually less expensive.

[@koreymayo8884]

@@AFluffyMobius thanks! Now I just wish I could find out how many btu for each fan speed since it's an inverter model.

[@dylan-vc9te]

Would you be able to tell me what the peak draw is right when the compressor turns on? I'm trying to see if this will work for a bus build and want to make sure my inverter can handle it.

[@koreymayo8884]

I'm not sure, but I think it starts off at low speed and gradually ramps up, so should be a much lower peak wattage than a single speed compressor.

[@antoniosgarlata5181]

I purchased two 12000-BTU units. They worked for two years only. The code that came up indicated loss of refrigerant. I contacted midea customer service and basically told me that I'm on my own. We will not help you because the units have only one year warranty, even though the manual states that the seals have five years warranty. Unfortunately, both units wound up in the garbage.

[@gblargg]

5:40 Deal-killer there. I programmed my own controller for my window AC (it just sends it IR remote commands) and a big thing was to not have the fan run when the compressor is off. I just run the fan only when I'm away from the house, to dry the coils. I can't stand units which run the fan and re-humidify the room every cycle.

[@koreymayo8884]

LG is the only brand of window ACs that immediately shuts the fan off at the same time as the compressor in energy saver mode to avoid condensation blow off from the evaporator coils which is why LG is my favorite brand! GE, Freidrich, Frigidaire, and Midea all run the fan for at least 2 minutes after the compressor turns off resulting in higher humidity!

[@chewsir]

I just tested my 8K model and the evap fan turned off 6 seconds after I pressed the power button. Not a deal breaker to me.

[@koreymayo8884]

@@chewsir it's totally different if you hit the power button and then everything turns off.

[@Mike-gz4xn]

Wouldn’t you want the fan to run to dry the coils? You don’t want mold building up

[@julieperkins-lockett]

Why does my remote for this unit have heat but when I press it the heat doesn't work

[@justd02ofus]

Is the compressor multi speed like the blower in the unit? Am trying to figure out of the wattage change is due to blower speed or compressor speed..

[@ChadCarriereVideographe]

Need advice before buying online. Could I install it in an 20 inch window (door) frame? They say 22-36" But seems like the AC is less then 20" large. So I wonder if it would be possible. Thx for your help!

[@592Johno]

Just don't use the extension arms and use the larger holes on the bracket as screw down points

[@BlitzkriegEntertain]

Hey man do you mind doing a video of turning it down as low as possible (temp) and getting the watt hour readings of the manual settings from low, med and high. I’m going to do a custom install in my van and trying to get an idea of power consumption between those different settings while it’s trying to pump as cold as possible. I would greatly appreciate it!

[@koreymayo8884]

I basically already did that in my test. Seemed like it would run anywhere from 1500 to 8000 btu if I remember correctly, so that's between 100 and 533 watts since the energy efficiency ratio is 15.

[@koreymayo8884]

Even with the fan on high and set for 60 degrees it wouldn't run at full capacity when it was cool outside, but on a hot afternoon it will. It has its own built in outdoor temperature sensor.

[@AshleyEllwood]

Hey, how did it go? I'm trying to find out if I can run one of these on a Honda 2000i generator.

[@bluedragoneyes928]

Trying to decide between Midea, LG, Friedrich?

[@SimplePortal]

Does your unit have a high pitch whine when it is cooling?

[@dstein111]

I’m considering a midea cause my LG is so damn loud.and this LG is consumer reports most recommended unit

[@koreymayo8884]

Yeah some LG models are loud, some are quiet, but I love everything else about LG. LG also makes quiet energy efficient inverter ACs like midea and has been making inverter units longer than midea, but I wish LG would make more sizes for their inverter units.

[@Crivoh]

I have 2 of these which I love but I was thinking about trying the 14 btu lg dual inverter but idk if it's louder than the midea one

[@ALIENsosa]

have you ever checked out the GE Profile 6,150 BTU Ultra Quiet Window AC? Im getting it tomorrow. Ive been trying to decide between that one and this midea. Going with the GE because I can get it from my local lowes instead of having to wait for a delivery.

[@koreymayo8884]

I haven't tried any GE units but from what I hear they are hit and miss. Some good. Some not. I want to know if the fan shuts off as soon as the compressor shuts off with GE.

[@zsoltballa2315]

We have the GE regular and Profile unit also. They’re really quiet on the lowest setting and work really good but the Midea 8,000btu unit is even more quiet and more efficient

[@pricansito2366]

I had mine for 4 months and it stop cooling like it used to .....like i let it run 60 degrees and it was cooling really well but now it doesn't cool as good and kept getting worst

[@koreymayo8884]

Make sure you clean the filter every 30 days and watch my video on how to clean the vents and fan blower motor.

[@Jaffacall3251]

@@koreymayo8884 I can’t find your video on how to clean this unit

[@TFSGEO]

You are the first video I've seen that mentions such a large fluctuation. That's definitely a deal breaker for me. Are you still seeing this issue?

[@koreymayo8884]

Most of the time the temp stays 2 to 3 degrees below the set temperature but yeah it does still have a 5 degree range of fluctuation from time to time, which would be a deal breaker for me, but I installed it at a family members house and they are just happy to have AC in that game room.

[@wendopaine2579]

I just leave mine on 65° at high speed all the time. Even if you raise the temperature to 78 or so it never kicks off so it's easier just to shut it off when needed.

[@koreymayo8884]

Leaving the fan speed on high will cause high humidity and mold unless you live out west where it's super dry. I'd leave it on auto fan speed to keep the air drier and avoid mold. Auto speed will also allow it use 2 speeds lower than low. When the fan speed goes lower it also lowers the btu so that it runs longer which saves electricity because every time the compressor turns back on it uses tons of start up electricity. Keeping the fan on high defeats the whole purpose of an inverter air conditioner.

[@mattolsson8816]

INteresting video. I have installed this unit in my RV conversion box truck. What I have found is that it doesn't control humidity well at all. Relative Humidity is usually over or around 60%. Even in the middle of the day when the unit is running more.

[@mattolsson8816]

Just looked right now. Temp set to 74 room measures 72 degrees and RH is 66% and this is with the unit running at really low speed, drawing about 107-130W.. It's almost like it's producing or adding humidity to the truck. And the truck is insulated with 2" foam board and is very tight, no windows.

[@koreymayo8884]

The truck is probably too small for that unit. What's the square footage? Over sized air conditioners typically can't remove enough moisture.

[@koreymayo8884]

Also make sure the fan speed is on auto so it will run the fan speed even lower than low and remove more moisture at the lower fan speeds

[@mattolsson8816]

@@koreymayo8884 i am running it on auto have tried running it on low fan.. so far it has not worked. That said I am making some modifications to it now. Drilled a hole in the back for drainage (can be closed off if need be.)of course today the air outside is pretty dry so not sure today will give a truthful reading. Yeah the space is too small indeed. I was hoping this unit with it's variable fan and compressor speed would do ok. Space is only 15x8.

[@lunaumbra5179]

@@mattolsson8816 I've been considering this unit for a van conversion because it's a mini split I can hack more easily than other window units. Extend some copper loves and cable lines and voila. I am not normally concerned as much about humidity but I don't understand enough about how ac removes moisture. My van is 12x6. Have you any new thoughts since last month about the unit? Thanks

[@reneindc2u]

Any particular LG unit you recommend? I need a new AC badly and was looking at this model. I need cold cold cold. Loud doesn't bother me as I live in a busy city.

[@Smurdle450]

LG owner chiming in, any model will do you well, but if you want something that can also be quiet when desired, choose an inverter model.

[@koreymayo8884]

For 6000 btu I recommend the new lw6019er for a room between 150 to 250 square feet and it's quiet. The 6017r model is kinda loud. For a room of 250 up to 350 square feet I recommend any of the 8000 btu models, but get the newer lw8019er if you want something quieter. For a room between 300 to 500 square feet I recommend the dual inverter 9500 btu LG model. I'm hoping to soon get my hands on a new LG to replace my piece of junk Freidrich and will do a review when I get one. Also avoid Frigidaire and GE unless you live out west where it's already super dry.

[@koreymayo8884]

@@Smurdle450 LG has some newer models now that are as low as 48 decibels instead of the older models that were 52 decibels which is 40 percent quieter! I believe the inverter models are even quiter around 44 decibels, but they don't make any small enough for me. 9500 btu would be grossly oversized for 150 square feet possibly resulting in a moisture problem. So far the only 6000 btu inverter I have found came out this year by Mitsubishi and cost around $1500, but it's also 33 SEER!

[@Smurdle450]

@@koreymayo8884 I have a 14,000 In a bedroom that is also way too small for a 14k. The beauty of it being inverter is that it can spin down, so even though it's grossly oversized at full capacity, it can ramp up way down and still end up running constantly! (which is the goal of an inverter unit) The midea U, which is another unit that seems very good, comes as small as 8,000 BTU. (As pictured in your video there.) And again, since it's inverter, it can run way lower than that. No, it's not ideal to have a unit that oversized, but it works. Mitsubishi is in a league of their own.

[@koreymayo8884]

@@Smurdle450 I actually just discovered that soleus air has a saddle shaped window AC that gives you full view out your window and that's only 6000 btu and an inverter and it says in energy saver mode it turns the fan off at the same time as the compressor just like LG and it's even quiter than Midea at 39 decibels! It's expensive, but I think I just found the perfect window AC!

[@lunaumbra5179]

I'm so grateful for this video. I'm considering this unit for a diy hack job since this unit is essentially the tiniest mini split. Your video has convinced me to purchase it and at least verify your findings before I chop it to bits

[@koreymayo8884]

Actually mitsubishi recently came out with a 6000 btu mini split 33 SEER ultra high efficiency, but it costs around $1500.

[@lunaumbra5179]

@@koreymayo8884 exactly. There are also 12v systems for RV and truckers but they are 1500 - 5000...

[@CodyWommackVEVO]

@@lunaumbra5179 Have you tried hacking it into a mini split yet? I was thinking of doing the same thing. I'd like to separate the indoor and outdoor unit like a mini split. I'd also be interested in running it off of battery without going through DC to AC conversion.

[@lunaumbra5179]

@@CodyWommackVEVO I gave up. The compressor/condenser box is too big to put under the van unless I move the spare tire which I'm not ready to do. Also this unit uses a more modern and more expensive refrigerant. If I fucked up I wouldn't have any help. And to do it right I would need to spend a handful of months learning about ac tech to feel confident. I hope someone else does it. It's likely easier if you don't care about being stealth.

[@lunaumbra5179]

@@koreymayo8884 Doing some more research in case others look at this Mitsubishi 6,000BTU :: MSZ-FS06NA & MUZ-FS06NA (combined) 220V :: 33 SEER (stated) / 19 EER (stated) Midea U 8,000BTU :: MAW08V1QWT 110V :: 17 SEER (converted) / 15 EER (stated) Outdoor (compressor & condensor) Mitsub 35"wide x 22"tall x 14"deep Midea 22"wide x 14"tall x ~13"deep Indoor (evaporator and blower) Mistub 37"wide x 12"tall x 10"deep Midea 22"wide x 14"tall x ~7"deep Mistubishi $1600US Midea U $350US Anyway. I'm still investigating this butcher because of its advanced features and low energy consumption. In a van, the mitsubishi doesn't really fit IF you are going for stealth AND you don't have the space. I'm just hoping I find the right people to help egg me on. I need the support to make it happen.

[@manuelcardona1723]

Hi I have same ac works great i have a question about the app is works fine on my smartphone but when my wife set up on her smartphone my app on my ph stop working is this ac app works only on one smartphone?

[@koreymayo8884]

I'm not sure because I only have the app on my phone and haven't tried it on any other devices.

[@manuelcardona1723]

@@koreymayo8884 just in case if you tried let me now if work on 2 devices ..thanks..

[@loveforever8661]

What the noise level?

[@heckatight06]

Super quiet. Like 45dbs. Just installed mine today

[@williampennjr.4448]

Its as loud as a casual conversation.

[@williampennjr.4448]

@@heckatight06 you think that's quiet you have hearing problems.

[@heckatight06]

@@williampennjr.4448 you must have a defective model; mine is quieter than a regular desk fan when running 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@williampennjr.4448]

@@heckatight06 You must use very loud desk fans. 45dbs is not very quiet. That's as loud as a conversation.

[@rogerslawncare7260]

Make no mistake, you need the swing in temperature in the thermostat if you didn’t have that it takes mere seconds almost in certain situations for the temperature to rise one degree meaning that the unit will be kicking on and off to much short cycling the compressor causing premature wear and failure. This is programmed into central units the same way.

[@koreymayo8884]

Not true. Central units don't have a 5 degree temperature swing. My american standard central unit with a robertshaw swings 0.6 degrees and typically turns on/off every 10 to 20 minutes. The honeywell thermostat we had before would swing 0.4, but would run short cycles of only 5 to 10 minutes, which uses extra electricity and more wear on the compressor. And other window AC brands such as the LG I used to have always stayed within 1 degree.

[@richardsmith1161]

Thanks for the video. I have the 12000 btu version. The most I can get is 475 watts. It's 81 outside 74 inside ( according to the internal thermostat) and set to 72, seems like I'm not getting what I paid for

[@koreymayo8884]

The wattage will vary depending on outdoor temp and indoor temp is all I can tell you.

[@richardsmith1161]

@@koreymayo8884 Probably. I just got a 2nd one yesterday and it was able to get to 800 watts, but it was in full sun reading 92 degrees. Seems crazy, but I'm going to cut down trees around my original one to see if it can read a higher temperature and cool better.

[@Tall-Cool-Drink]

Take the flap off to allow the air to go more up.

[@koreymayo8884]

Yeah I wish it was possible to aim it straight up. I was really disappointed that it wasn't designed to do that!

[@koreymayo8884]

Can it be removed without breaking it? I haven't looked into this yet.

[@Tall-Cool-Drink]

@@koreymayo8884 I purchased this unit over the summer for a small office-room in my attic. It works well. It keeps this room (20x20) nice and cool.

[@muzikmon2267]

So you didn't answer my previous comment? You don't like the unit you're complaining about it. HAVE YOU RETURNED IT AND GOT THE LG? Also very bizarre the fan does not shut off when the compressor does because it's a modern unit maybe you think they would have a firmware update that could be done through the app then into the machine.. Maybe the fan stays on for a little bit so it will continuously blow the cold That's left in the air conditioner..

[@koreymayo8884]

Sorry Ive been busy lately but this was installed in a family members house and they have no complaints, so it wasn't returned, but if I bought it I for me personally I would return it because besides not controlling the humidity that well I really hate the 5 degree temperature fluctuations. I like thermostats that keep the set temp within 1 degree.

[@thestuff85]

yea going from 77 to 81 is going from perfect to me to hot. we are so spoiled crying over 4 degree temp change lolol

[@AFluffyMobius]

This is going to sound random but youre one of the few people ive seen say 77 is perfect. Because i set my AC to 77 also. Anything below 75 or 74 is already too cold for me lol.

[@kentli399]

I don't know what are you looking for on this AC.

[@koreymayo8884]

Power consumption, moisture control, variable capacity, being quiet, wifi controls, thermostat accuracy, programmable thermostat and timers

[@TheBeagle58]

All HVAC type devices have what is called Temperature swing. Can be as much as 2-4 °. This is normal behavior. I have the LG 12,000 BTU unit. It uses more energy than this.

[@koreymayo8884]

All the Lgs I have had always keep the temperature within 1 degree of where the temperature is set. The honeywell thermostat on the 3 ton American Standard in my house usually stays within 0.3 degrees!

[@Smurdle450]

@@koreymayo8884 here's another warning about LG. The inverter models follow the four degree rule, they will spin down the moment the target temperature is reached, but they will not completely shut down until it's 4° below the set point. The 9500, given the design flaw I mentioned in my other comment, cycles constantly, Almost as frequently as a single stage unit. It hits that 4° split, shuts off, then starts again once it gets back to the setpoint. The 14,000 can keep running for a much longer amount of time, despite both being in similarly sized rooms. It's pretty decent at keeping the temperature within 2° of setpoint. EDIT: with all of these complaints it sure sounds like I hate them, doesn't it? I can personally say that I don't hate them, I like them quite a lot. I absolutely love my 14, 000. Although, I would not buy another 9500. I would only get the 14,000, due to it being better suited for small rooms, counterintuitively.

[@koreymayo8884]

@@Smurdle450 wow thanks for the information. Now I'm wondering what the temperature swing is on the 8000 btu LG inverter. If it's 4degrees than I'd rather stick with a non inverter unit that stays within 1 degree. I cant stand temperature fluctuations from where I set it.

[@Smurdle450]

@@koreymayo8884 I believe the 8000 is simply a speed limited 9500, so i imagine it will also follow the 4 degree rule. My 14000 is quick to react, the moment the set point is hit it spins down to a low speed and does its best to stay there, going straight to minimum power if it needs to. As mentioned earlier it generally stays within 2 degrees of the setpoint. The 14,000's minimum power is 180w, while the 9500 has a minimum power of 330w.

[@koreymayo8884]

@@Smurdle450 interesting and wow I can't believe the 14000 can modulate down lower than the 9500.

[@muzikmon2267]

Well then return it What the hell are you talking about 🤣 What matters the most is how quiet it is, does it cool the room, Will it save money, will It keep the humidity at a normal level that's comfortable for people. ALL ABOVE YES!!

[@koreymayo8884]

Everything is great except the humidity could be better

[@williampennjr.4448]

Its Not variable speed. I've had it set at 72 d for over an hour. Its colder than 72 but still running full blast. I havent heard any change in fan speed. Its not quiet. Its the same distance from my tv and its just as loud. The timer doesn't even work. I set it for 3 hours and its still running. The thing is a piece of shit worse than my old A/c because at least the timer works and it has a manual.

[@koreymayo8884]

Strange the one I installed automatically changes fan speeds on its own and cools down very fast and is the quietest window AC I have ever installed. Never tried the timer though.

[@wendopaine2579]

And there's no way to find out how to use the remote. Lol

[@koreymayo8884]

Yeah sorry I didn't go over the remote in the video lol

[@rickandnaruto]

It's a chinese company.. Of course the company support isn't great LOL