Midjourney v6.1 vs v6.0: What You NEED to Know | SREF, Beauty Bias, New --p Codes | Midjourney Guide

[@woollyferncreative]

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[@thewebstylist]

Great video walk through as always and hope MJ brings back details as mentioned asap

[@woollyferncreative]

Thanks! 🙂

[@bobsolem6034]

Thanks for addressing what I had suspected. Skin and overall looks seem smoothed and possibly more generic.

[@woollyferncreative]

I think in a lot of cases the overall lighting is better for photographic images of people in 6.1, but yea, there's over-beautification much of the time.

[@juryjone]

I found that the “beauty bias” extended to my cref model that I use constantly. Her freckles disappeared and her eyes have more glamorous makeup. I retreat to v6 when I use her for a more natural look. By the way, that’s both in photos and my preferred illustrations.

[@woollyferncreative]

Oh interesting, yea, some of the crefs that I tried work just as well in 6.1, but some of them do seem to get affected by that 6.1 beauty bias.

[@poppingjaz]

On another note I put the same prompts in Flux and MJ and didn’t see a difference where Flux was superior as everyone was saying

[@claudiobechinie2723]

Thanks for this video. Has Midjourney 6.x gotten better as far as hands are concerned? In version 5.x they were still terribly unrealistic in places.

[@woollyferncreative]

Yes, V6.x is much better at hands and I expect this to improve even more once V7 comes out (likely in the next few months).

[@claudiobechinie2723]

@@woollyferncreative That sounds good. Many thanks for the quick reply. 😊

[@christopherbigelow6688]

great info

[@okaythanks-sn5ev]

Why --cref not working on my midjourney account? Submission error! Syntaxerror: unexpected token 'I', 'Internal S" ... Is not valid jSON

[@woollyferncreative]

What is your prompt? Make sure there is a space between --cref and your image URL.

[@okaythanks-sn5ev]

@@woollyferncreative working now ✅😊 thank you 👍

[@nolkov]

Can someone help me with ref image. I try to put my picture if a piece of furniture into generated by MJ image but it changes the furniture. I want to be the exact same furniture but it changes it. Any suguestions how the prompt should look like?

[@woollyferncreative]

Midjourney uses reference images as inspiration. It will create something new from them. You can get a piece of furniture similar to your image, but Midjourney is not set up to replicate it exactly.

[@nolkov]

@@woollyferncreative Thank you for your answer! Although disappointing - at least I am going to stop searching ways to do it :) Have a great day! :)

[@toulouse2k]

The prompt to text is slightly improved. It can't handle long phrases. Actually Leonardo ai Phoenix is superior. So far, I have not seen anything in V6.1 to brag about, but I'm confident in the long-term development.

[@woollyferncreative]

Yea, I think V6.1 is good for some specific use cases, but I'm really looking forward to their plans for V7.

[@ErnestoMelo]

How do you create these long SREF numbers, have you a video explaining this? I learned a lot with you, thanks so much!!+

[@woollyferncreative]

Yes, SREF numbers can be discovered by adding --sref random to your prompts. Check out this video for more info: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJXSpmZmfrKgh6M. I also have several videos where I share some of my favorite SREF codes, for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJnLmKihhqyKq5o. Thanks for the comment!

[@ErnestoMelo]

@@woollyferncreative Yes! I'm fan of these videos, I found some great sref codes there!! Thanks so much for quick response!

[@WebFanNY]

Thanks for these tips! I'll be applying them in my work tonight. @woollyferncreative Question at 04:58 , I didn't know a new Midjourney version changes the personalization 'id' P Code number. If so, can this be a way to reset errors? Like we just wait for the new version and run the personalization Task/Rank Images page all over to fine tune our style preference (mine is cinematic + photorealistic for my projects) from the previous Midjourney version? Thanks

[@woollyferncreative]

For V6.1 they implemented an entire new model/algorithm for how they use our image pair ranking data to generate personalization codes, which is different from their personalization model for V6.0. Each new --p code since the V6.1 release is a reflection of all image pairs you ranked up to and including that date. Think of it as a snapshot in time in your image ranking journey. Your codes are not reset. Midjourney just has a new approach for trying to generate more accurate personalization codes. Hopefully that made sense!

[@WebFanNY]

@@woollyferncreative After I wrote the above question for you I went ahead and ran the the personalization Task/Rank Images page all over again but I only selected the images that looked like a real life-like photo, from food to people, from animals to cityscapes and one sci fi. I also selected realistic colors and moved away from neons images and those with sparkles. Then I used a prompt I ran in 6.1 last week to do some cover drafts for a writer. Same exact prompt in 6.1 and just now I got totally different results that resembled a still from a movie. So it works! 😀 BTW the prompt I used, if u want to test it, was for a pirate theme cover tests last week's came with bright intense tones, after rerunning today I got muted, very realistic colors and yes, the ID changed: Here's the prompt I'll erase it later- after I get the image I 2X zoom out and take it to Photoshop for fixes: a handsome athletic English cyber soldier pirate with dark hair in a science fiction azure skies, dark blue and dark black, in the style of Michael Garmash, realistic movie still, dark black and beige, soft-focused hyperrealism cinematic colors golden ratio, ambient occlusion, high key photography, arabesque sci-fi, towers, sci-fi futuristic minarets, walled sci-fi city, fortress gate, cinematic light, insanely detailed and intricate melancholy, Photorealistic, ultra quality, fashion style, Studio Lighting, rtx, shot on 70mm, in the style of john collier --ar 2:3

[@woollyferncreative]

Ok, I had to try that prompt out with my newest --p code 🙂. Fun. Great that you're seeing results with the updated personalization codes!

[@WebFanNY]

@@woollyferncreative Last message before I get back to 'work' doing AI art for three art-packed short story anthologies. The 6.1 revised new ID is doing more detail after a new personalization run than the 6.0. In that prompt one of the models has a sleeveless leather vest and only when I opened in browser and zoomed in notice the improvements. The hems are not just extremely well made but show irregular wear-and-tear in sections you don't see unless you zoom in: the leather vest has sections facing the front to detail wear and tear more, like weapons pockets, than sections where a person would barely touch or mangle if wearing a vest like the upper shoulder fabric. And the light on the vest matches the same source of light reflected on face and arms in same tones. And the best tiny detail, the exposed top of the arm under the sleeveless vest has a slight color variation, less tan, than the rest of the arm exposed to sunlight, just like any person going outside under the sun for hours and arms are tanner than skin under the shirt. I've never seen such miniscule attention to these color details before, and I only selected less than 100 images with photorealism under the personalization Task/Rank Images to override the 1,100 plus from the 6.0 personalization. So, it doesn't take much to get a new clear slate id. Bye and looking forward your next tutorial!

[@ayane.kumi7]

Thank you for your video! They are all so clear and easy to follow! But 1 question please, where I can find the Seed number? I cant find it on midjourney or discord either ):

[@woollyferncreative]

Thanks! To find the seed number for images you have already generated, open your image on the Midjourney website, click the 3 lines in the upper right, then Copy, then Seed. This will copy the seed number to your clipboard. Note: this will not work if you open an upscaled image -- you need to open the original image from the image grid. You can use that seed number in future prompts by typing --seed a space and then your seed number. If you are wanting to compare results between v6.0 and v6.1, you can use any seed number you want. It's just a random number. I typically use --seed 1111 when I'm doing prompt comparison.

[@woollyferncreative]

Also this might help woollyferncreative.com/2024/02/26/how-to-use-seed-number-in-midjourney/

[@GenerasiTikTok21]

apakah kamu mempunyai Prompt Mj, hasilnya untuk dijual di Microstock??

[@woollyferncreative]

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand

[@qbsdevs8369]

Pake b inggris cuk

[@deanm9652]

Hopefully, they will update niji to 6.1 soon as well.

[@woollyferncreative]

It sounds like niji will get integrated into the V7 model. I don't think they are planning updates for niji to 6.1 or 6.2.

[@deanm9652]

@@woollyferncreative Thanks for the reply. When do you think V7 will come out?

[@woollyferncreative]

@@deanm9652 they haven't set a timeline for it, but it's currently in training. V6.2 will be the next release. If I had to guess, V7 is probably at least a couple months away.

[@Bravox84]

🙂

[@doomzy8622]

some fashion photography is really flat and grainy, 6.1 is more for converting anime 3D renderings i believe. waiting for v7 tho💎🙏

[@woollyferncreative]

Yea, I am very much looking forward to V7!

[@poppingjaz]

MJ still overly exaggerates describing people. Anyone with a little extra baby fat is described as obese. It even uses phrases like fat ugly and obese which is extreme for many use cases for describing especially when you try to use the prompt and it says it goes against their standards

[@MCCraftAdventure]

Am I the only one who feels like every image 6.1 generates went backwards in image quality and physics.

[@woollyferncreative]

I think it partly depends on what types of images you are creating. For most things, I still prefer 6.0 because 6.1 tends to be a bit less detailed and beautifies people too much for my taste. I'm looking forward to improvements in V7.

[@MCCraftAdventure]

@ yeah, but overall something is off with version 6. I can’t wait for version 7.