Midnight Screenings: "The Lone Ranger"

[@Hamartias_hound]

William Fichtner is THE reason to watch it. And I would love to see more of his story.

[@bruceflashback3877]

To be fair, The Lone Ranger had a no kill code all through his history.I do not understand why people want no kill charactors to kill their enemies.If every hero, in movies or comics or whatever killed, it would be too one sided ,character wise. We need people with many different kinds of moral codes in fictional media.

[@bruceflashback3877]

+Bruce flashback To continue, not every character should be like The Punisher.

[@AvengingMikon]

No kill characters are often written poorly or raise questions of the hero's culpability in the villain's actions. For the first, see this movie, where there's only a movie because of his code. For the second, see Batman and the Joker, where the Joker's body count in the comics is in the thousands. Batman could have prevented every single one of those deaths with a quick drop off of a building. That can also lead to good character moments. The first is just the hero being incompetent. A no kill hero needs writers who make scenarios where killing isn't a plausibly better option.

[@MrJohnlennon007]

AvengingMikon exactly that’s why I like Keaton’s Batman he kills the fuckers

[@blaisetelfer8499]

And Affleck's.

[@crimsonblade25]

AvengingMikon Batman doesn’t kill because he know that he’s just as psychotic as his villains are so if he kills even one time he’d never stop killing and just become a monster. Plus is it really his fault that the city can’t keep them locked up no matter how many times he catches them?

[@CatLives9]

The use of "William Tell Overature" was awesome in this movie, I can say that at least.

[@planescaped]

The Lone Ranger: Legend of Plot Armor

[@halfdemonprince]

First of all, this is the first review I’ve seen where the people talked about the movie for a consistent and solid hour without going off on a tangent. Second, I’m disappointed that your never mentioned that if you wanted to see a good western movie starting Johnny Depp, watch Rango.

[@ChildOfTheFlower]

So this movie is trying to have its cake and eat it too by showing gritty nonsense but tries to make the heroes into idiots just so the kids can enjoy it.

[@nathanhall9345]

It SOUNDS like they wanted to make it a spoof/send-up of the serial westerns? But they didn't commit enough. Or maybe they were going for the same kind of thing as Indiana Jones, and it fell completely flat?

[@PhoenixValkyrie]

started watching this on the 4th, paused it for a while, started it again. And when Brian says 'shit, it's the 5th of July already' he's actually correct.

[@Cole91365]

Their was a Chevy chase show reallly you learn something new everyday

[@anikmonette2140]

The train scene is the only thing worth to see in that movie.

[@bsgtrekfan88]

ok so I held off on watching this movie till now. While I respect your views (from when it came out) and your stuff overall..seriously love your work...this movie....while it did drag a bit..and has moments that do make you wounder why the hell did they not cut.......this movie worked for me. The art direction, the cinematography...THE SOUNDTRACK...OMG was it good..but most of all...that last act...the battle on the train..........I sat there...eyes wide open the WHOLE time wondering what the hell could possibly happen next! It made the movie for me and if I saw it on the big screen it would have been worth the price of a ticket price by far! Im glossing over a bit but still..its a decent watch and against its flaws.....it has heart......and heart is more than most for movies now a days. Oh and the two leads.......yeah they fit their roles pretty good. 7/10 a decent watch and more so if you have a good audio system! That last act..........god damn!

[@DocZFlux]

I’m shocked! I expected more recent comments with people making Armie Hammer jokes like how we now know that he would have been better cast as Fichtner’s character! That said, I don’t hate this film for being a revisionist take on the Lone Ranger (but it should have been an hour shorter and tried harder when casting Tanto)!

[@modelmajorpita]

It would be great if we could get special-edition DVD's of the "Editors Cut", now with half an hour less bullshit!

[@sharifalkorek4940]

That exists, it's called Who Framed Roger Rabbit

[@tomahzo]

WOAH! Pixie Sarah beamed into the scene at 1:03:21 . Yikes! :D

[@wjzav1971]

But after he put on the hat and walked into the picture, you see the bird suddenly alive coming from behind the rock.

[@aurorauplinks]

you know what, this would have made a great fodder piece for mel brooks to remake perhaps have some help from Lucas for a few ideas and see where htey took it etc

[@Demildiel]

Did old man Tonto walk into the desert to die?

[@culwin]

Love the Chevy Chase Show

[@artistwithouttalent]

Holy shit, is that what Brian looks like without his glasses?

[@lisapierce6832]

I thought that the pay off at the end of the credits would be Tonto getting attacked by the killer rodents from earlier in the movie.

[@randallscott4581]

this might sound stupid, but I think the Lone Ranger should be a cross between a cross between the Punisher and Perry Mason.

[@joelsmith5938]

So, like the Daredevil Netflix show?

[@BrainstormerX37]

1:02:26 the tease of the iconic video

[@Geospasmic]

Johnny Depp's old man makeup was gross. The part where he's eating the peanuts made me a little sick. I know it was supposed to be but why?

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

See, I didn't much mind this movie since I actually like the slower pacing; the part that really pissed me off was how long the *fight* scenes went on, which seems to be the opposite of your problem.

[@seanrichards5912]

hey at least your review about the movie wasn't longer than the real movie

[@aurorauplinks]

I have got to say this movie has an amazing villain.. maybe he should be fighting will smithe in the wild wild west? or clint eastwood in ... pretty much any film, even Space Cowboys... maybe they crashland back in time or in the planet of the apes and they find a group of monkeys that enjoy eating humans and he has to fight them from a disadvantagious position as the monkeys have railroads and horses figured out as well as guns... and space cowboys dont have guns very often

[@robotrix]

The "Lead Character Protection" sounds like the Baron Munchausen/Ureliably Narrator thing. Now, does the movie make that clear? Really needs to.

[@Kaefer1973]

review: 0:24-0:32.

[@MrAlcazar]

Eh I didn't think it was that bad. It just couldn't find it's tone. I liked the relationship between Armie Hammer and Depp. It was a little clunky at first, but they eventually work well together. Not good, not terrible, just O.K.

[@monononny3974]

I kinda liked the movie :/ I mean, the whole schtick about the old Tanto telling the story to the kid was a bit unnecessary, I think it would've been better if the movie only just told the story of the Ranger. Going back and forth kind of twisted the mood back and forth like a water faucet, but that's kinda the only problem I found with it.

[@hypercriticalcritic9329]

I'd love to see a Lone Ranger movie in which they made it an ultra campy comedy. The plot is completely over the top but the characters are all taking it completely seriously. I find that enjoyable at least sometimes and it would be hard to do Lone Ranger, which is let's face it pretty campy and silly to begin with, any other way. Lean into the camp movie. Or maybe someone will figure out how to make us take the Lone Ranger seriously, but either way you are going to have to make us take it seriously like the Marvel movies have made us take silly things seriously. Thor is silly, but I can take him relatively seriously I mean I know he isn't that serious but I can take him pretty seriously. That's the only other way I can see a Lone Ranger film working. Studios I know you're listening give me a job.

[@aurorauplinks]

ok here... how about this... the railroads are being taken over by a crazy inventor who plans on building a secret underground railroad big enough to carry boats and mechanical marvels from his secret lair in California where it will be sold to the investors of countless nations at the new york auction houses quite illegally and disguised as regular old stagecoaches... but this is bad for the natives who are being used as a physical labor source in the factors and building the railroad line... and there's several in between fights between bandits native Americans and U.S. Cavalry while Texas Rangers have been informed of claims of a treasonous union between the auction houses of new york and foreign interests leading to a investigation of the secrete railroad connecting the east coast and the west coast which is actually more of a deep underwater canal using boats and native American's who have been raised to act as servants after the cavalry and other darker pasts caused their own parents and grandparents to not be around to teach the children... so this story is about the crazy inventor who also ran an orphanage for decades before converting his pupils into a labor force to take back their land... and have someone older but with a great crazy style of acting to play him like Bryan Cranston... and he has this huge series of underground cities full of displaced natives and smugglers who use his routes as a smugglers pass for rum and other things at a slight service fee of helping him acquire extra things he requires to keep his factories running. And just keep the rest of the characters in the story for tonto and the lone ranger... although the tonto actor would be a great double-sided character who plays the fool but knows what's going on and has not decided on the morality of which side to come down on, aiding his people to retake their land and trusting a crazy inventor, or the law of the federal government which has helped displace and forcibly move his people and other native peoples across the land at great costs, it can still have great humor but great depth etc as he has to decide between him having to say does he belong to the human nature of one's tribe first, or the greater good first... and have him develop a sense of humor due to past tragedies and he could be introduced as someone about to be hung by vigilantes mistaking him for someone else when his friend the lone ranger for the first time comes to save him and help set up their friendship as more than a brief acquaintance

[@loantran5713]

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[@pytko3]

This movie was awful.

[@ElaMongrella]

It's just a BS story, told by Tonto, to make himself look good. Of course he's gonna make the Lone Ranger look inept, and make himself look like the main hero. In the universe of the movie and the whole franchise, I'm sure the Lone Ranger was actually better than he was shown in the movie itself, since it was just Tonto, portraying him that way. Tonto was entertaining himself by telling the kid a BS story. Which is why he just so obviously glazed over any plot holes the kid noticed. The same goes for everything else that happens in the movie, including the cartoonish kills (or non-kills). It's just Tonto, shitting the kid the whole time. I think that knowledge makes for a whole different movie experience than what I gather from other people who complain about these things, because they didn't get that.

[@akiuop123]

Ela Mongrella Speaking for myself, I knew that could be a possibility on the first (and only) viewing, and I think most people who watch the film recognize it as well. But imo, if that's the only way this movie was intended to be interpreted, then the entire thing is pointless to watch. Its just Tonto BSing the whole time about nothing if we go from that point of view. Alternatively, it could also be a half-insane and/or completely senile Tonto not remembering things correctly at all, in which case it would still be about nothing. Its almost as bad as the, "And it was all a dream..." plot twist. It also takes away from Tonto being a strong Native American character if we go with any of these interpretations, which I don't think the filmmakers were going for at all, making these interpretations implausible. And if you go from a more conventional and more likely, "What he's saying is mostly or 100% true," interpretation, then its still pointless to watch because the movie is not very good.

[@ElaMongrella]

akiuop123 Personally, it made Tonto very likable to me, because I like that kind of "BSing other people for self entertainment" humor. Especially in elderly people. It adds a more human spark to them, I think. It didn't make him less strong to me, but added cheekiness to him along with his strength. To me, this way of looking at the movie wasn't pointless, but funny as hell. But I understand what you mean too.

[@akiuop123]

Alexandre Martins I can't see it that way because the movie's ineptness is irritating to me, not comedic. If it'd intentionally been made that way, it might have been fun.

[@ElaMongrella]

akiuop123 I think it was intentionally made that way, because Tonto is entertaining himself, by telling the boy a BS story.

[@ElaMongrella]

***** I meant "BS story" in a positive way. I liked the movie too. I was referring to the people who got angry over how the Lone Ranger was portrayed, as if they thought it was an actual origins story, and got so angry about the plot holes, when Tonto obviously tried to distract the kid from noticing the holes in his story, because he was just having fun with him.

[@joshmobley7347]

This was NOT the Lone Ranger & Tonto I grew up with! Not even close, Jay Silverheels was an Indian pure & Simple, though Johnny Depp was enjoyable in some Scenes, Still CAN’T figure out WHY He was Chosen to play a Role that Should have Gone to an Indian Actor! Just as SHAMEFUL as the Old Westerns with Whites playing Indians. The Story Narrative Also Differed from the Original,(to me)It’s always Best stick closely to the Source Material. Missed the Ranger Uniform, also, Clinton Moore & Spillsberry from the Old Movies & TV series & the Remake in the 80’s wore the outfits Very WELL! A Three piece Suit??? Why??? The DAYS of Yesteryear, the William Tell Overture, I was Always a Fan of the Masked Man, with his Faithful Friend & Partner! But this Wasn’t That, SADLY!!!✌️🦇🦇🦇🦇