MIG Brazing Made Easy With This ????

[@darthvader5300]

At age 93 and going to age 94 I am starting to forget my 1950s engineering lessons, I believe I better get back to my old 1950s textbooks again to refresh my memory. Old age sure gets to you from time to time. But I miss the hydrogen arc welding and including the argon arc welding known as argon plasma welding in the nuclear submarine naval yards in the Arctic during the Cold War years!

[@ironsidewoodworks9137]

Very interesting

[@Billsbyjoe]

Neat piece of footage. Welding - Fusion Brazing - Adhesion Capilliary action - The ability to flow. 43 years, man and boy. Now, 3.2 Snr W.I. iEng.

[@sharkbaitsurfer]

That intro was INTENSE and it's brilliantly informative video - thank you.

[@zmscott2507]

Currently restoring a chevelle with ALL the original seam sealer removed, using SB to join / fill everything. Beauty!

[@chris_b_liven]

Oh yeah!!

[@rodb8274]

Chris, I’m trying to use a Miller 140, spool gun, 100% Argon at 32 CFH, SUA brand ERCuSi-A .030” wire, volt setting 3, wire speed 60, .045” gap, open root butt joint to Mig Braze late model GM 20-22 ga fender flares and quarter panels. I really liked how you brazed that open root butt joint in “spot mode”. I noticed you had the gun pointed up by about 15 degrees and walked the spots down from the top. You didn’t mention what gauge the metal was. My first attempt at brazing my thin metal looks like crap. There was no hint of capillary action (virtually no bead on back side), the gap closed up to zero on the far end even though it was tacked, and the wire usually burned back very quickly leaving a big glob on the end of the stub of wire! Plus, the metal was warped as bad as if I had welded it, but the base metal was not melted. I’m fit to be tied! Any suggestions?

[@chris_b_liven]

Rod, Sorry for the delay in my response. The 22 ga is super thin material . I believe it’s less than the wire diameter you are trying to use. The plate thickness I showed was around .040 thousands. My suggestion would be to tack it with an opening similar to the plate thickness or find a setting that can punch through the material. For the silicon bronze to form on the back it needs a gap opening. Have you tried using an aluminum block on the back as a heat sink? This would probably help with the distortion in such thin material.

[@Alimotevalian-g8i]

silicon bronze tig is the way to go ..

[@gregwilkins7649]

First video I've watched of yours. Found it looking for more info on Silicon Bronze. Thanks for the info especially showing the difference between push and pull with this wire. I've been watching a fair amount of welding videos since I'm setting up a welding area at home. This was definitely informative and entertaining.

[@chris_b_liven]

I appreciate it! Thanks for watching the video 🤙

[@jawadashraf7809]

Hahaha I love how your slowly getting more gold as the video goes on 😂

[@chris_b_liven]

I’m glad you caught it 😂

[@trailb4u]

You pointed out use of special tapered nozzle for shielding gas but I didn’t catch any explanation as to why it was used vs standard nozzle. Can you elaborate? Thanks.

[@marcusmorgan1419]

Nice video, I have been playing with silicon bronze tig brazing and have fount it to be really temperamental at least for me, I am going to go buy a couple small rolls of silicon.amd aluminum bronze for my mig to see if I can do any better with that machine, unfortunately my welder doesn't give me the option for the specialty wore itself so I will have to play around a little to try and find a setting that works. What polarity are you set up with when mig brazing? That in itself should get me started off in the right direction. Thanks for the video, interesting and helpful.

[@chris_b_liven]

I’m running reverse polarity

[@markharrisllb]

I’m very much an amateur trainee weekend warrior, think of the lowest level welder and I’m the guy below it. I was generally looking at brazing brass to steel in my knife handles. My welder will braze using CuSi3 but a 0.45 kg spool is £35 where standard MIG wire is £20 for 5kg, that’s over £66 a kilo more. I also have a feeling I get less out than of the wire as well. I think for now, with my knifesmithing, I’ll stick to gas brazing which for a welder of my grade is fun. That takes absolutely nothing away from a very informative, well presented video. Thank you.

[@chris_b_liven]

Sometimes you can’t beat Oxyfuel brazing both on cost and fun. That was my go to process in High School welding class 😎 Thanks for watching 💯

[@Debate_Pervert]

Coming here after my I-Car instructor told me about bronze-silicone wire. Seems like there's a lot more to learn before I even attempt to use this stuff.

[@danielputnam2848]

Thanks! Could you do a video with troubleshooting. Like using too high or low voltage or speed. I have a pro series Schumacher with .023 silicon bronze and I would love to just see what I’m doing right and wrong.

[@chris_b_liven]

I like the idea 💡 I’ll put it on my list

[@danielputnam2848]

Thanks! I feel it’s hard to find videos on mig brazing that help with setup and reading the weld to adjust

[@ricardomontes373]

You're all right man. Thanks a bunch for sharing your knowledge.

[@chris_b_liven]

Appreciate it ! Thanks for watching

[@atuldhavan9009]

@@chris_b_liven please reply to my question: 1) when we are doing mig breazing to join fuel filler pipe(tube) to fuel tank some tanks are rejected due to blow holes in breazed area, why dose it happen

[@thomasleclair7418]

@@atuldhavan9009 ,,,Contaminaters in the workpieces or using a Drag movement with the gun......

[@RicardoGarcia-104]

Crazy. Wouldn’t think you need shielding gas. Thankx for the videos. Jus came across your channel got a lot of catching up to do.

[@engjds]

Question, when you set a material thickness, then change the voltage, on my machine it re-adjusts the material thickness, but you change both, does it do it independantly, and how do you do that?

[@chris_b_liven]

Yes, you can turn on a setting in the background called ALC - When it’s turned on you can set material thickness/wirefeed separate of voltage

[@jaybruce593]

I started to notice more bling on the presenter every cut scene, reconed he was going to be fully gold coated like C3P0 from star wars by the end of the video 🙂

[@chris_b_liven]

That would have been epic

[@3ch0_17]

A better definition for welding would be the heating and melting of two peices of equal or similar composition together and letting them cool together allowing fusion, with or without the use of a filler of equal or similar composition. This covers welding with metal and plastic. But funnily enough, also means that if you pissed into a crack in a frozen lake and the two sides of the crack froze together because of the piss, you are welding. Brazing refers to soldering specifically with a copper/ zinc allow at high temperatures. The temperature difference is what separates it from soldering. You can't braze with a soldering torch/iron, but you can definitely solder with a brazing torch.

[@chris_b_liven]

Thanks for watching

[@craigkeller]

Thanks for sharing the info. Very helpful.

[@chris_b_liven]

Thanks for watching

[@kevinedwards7676]

CAN YOU DO THIS WITH THE 2700MV MACHINE AS WELL?

[@chris_b_liven]

Yes!!!

[@jamiethomas4716]

Cool and a must try with my everlast mig welder.

[@chris_b_liven]

Jamie Thomas Give it a try... It should turn out well . Let me know

[@larryclark9380]

Help! Is this DCEN or DCEP??

[@chris_b_liven]

Electrode +

[@larryclark9380]

@@chris_b_liven Thanks Chris. We are using a process like this at work. The set up sheet says DCEN but the machine was running in DCEP. Set up sheet appears wrong.

[@carrollford8192]

At the beginning of your video you mig silicon bronze with a taper nozzle can you send me a link where you can purchase this nozzle

[@chris_b_liven]

Are you looking to buy this for a manual or robotic system? Do you already have an existing Fronius machine?

[@josephsmithe5774]

That's pretty cool. I've got to give this a try on my everlast mig welder. I've got to give tig brazing a try as well.

[@chris_b_liven]

Joseph Smithe Give it a shot and let me know it goes for you 🤘

[@elmedia1532]

Would a miller be able to run CUSI on steel setting? Dont have specific CUSI setting...

[@chris_b_liven]

Yes, it will run it. Just make sure you use 100% argon and try to get the shortest torch possible with a graphite liner. If you have a spool gun the better just due to the Fred ability of the wire

[@maggitmaster]

Nice one, you should make a video on the arc of the 2200. Mine feels and sounds so smooth like spray transfer smooth no matter what the setting or material. Tested it against my Everlast and that's when I really noticed how different it's arc was in sound, feel,and it's arc gives off a orangeish hew instead of blue.

[@chris_b_liven]

Arc Angel That’s a good idea.... I noticed the same thing about how smooth the arc is on all the range of thickness and materials. The next video I’m doing is dual shield flux cored wire and all the variety

[@maggitmaster]

@@chris_b_liven that will be a good one, I've yet to try it with dual shield

[@trace6402]

Dadgum, it even welds enamel. Hope that didn't require a pre heat.

[@chris_b_liven]

😂

[@balkrishr3572]

Why you did't show the finally on overlay of ss plate after finishing the work.Is it shine like gold or shine like stainless steel?

[@Z33u]

Hi, i have a question, can i use this CuSi3 on body repair with a semiprofesional welding machine? I have a Stahlwerk MIG 200 st IGBT. I want just to weld and repair small elements of body and dont get rust on welding, Thank you!

[@chris_b_liven]

Yes, you can use semi professional machines. Just stick with the basics... Argon

[@Z33u]

@@chris_b_liven daily im a welder i use fronius trans sinergic 2700 at work but for me at home i take something just to can weld things, and body repair on my old mercedes☺️ Thank you very much for the answer, I will order some CuSi3 to play with this material and i hope it will works good, Have a nice weekend☺️!!!

[@themindunset]

If you were going to fabricate a bike rack (for luggage not to hold the bike) would you braze the rack together or weld it? Material like chrome-moly steel.

[@chris_b_liven]

If it’s Chrome Moly I suggest ER80 filler metal. I haven’t done much research on using silicon bronze but I wouldn’t see why it would be an issue

[@themindunset]

@@chris_b_liven Thank you for the response.

[@manmangaming407]

Can I use 75/25 mix or do I need 100% argon?

[@chris_b_liven]

You can use a 25 CO2 mix but it’s going to be a bit hot in compared to Argon. I’ve seen many autobody shops use 75/25

[@robertmcleod5926]

Thanks for the videos on the Fronius line up, great reference tools. Is it necessary to use the Teflon liner for either of these wire types?

[@chris_b_liven]

It’s going to be similar to aluminum on strength so you will need graphite/Teflon or a special coated liner. The machine I was using had a special universal liner to assist with restriction

[@Themilitiacompound]

After 3 yrs, how you like that Fronius? Im learning to weld and I’m looking to buy one. Thanks

[@chris_b_liven]

Fernando, I wouldn’t use any other machine. Shoot me an email and let me know where you from etc. There is a promo on the TST 2200 unit - [e-mail]

[@NoferTrunions]

How about copper sheet to steel sheet (copper 2x steel thickness)? Have auto body idea for rust out dog legs and wheel arches to SiB sheet copper patches. The copper will last a lot longer than steel.

[@jeffruebens8355]

For vehicles, see the Project Farm KZbin videos for maintenance tips. Car body brazing is more rust resistant, especially if you spray Fluid Film on the inside and under the panels every fall, and inside door panels every few years. There is a video about melting vaseline (petroleum jelly) for a thicker coating where mud or salt spray might wash away oil. Do not use Fluid Film for door gaskets- I use Mothers VLR spray instead, with a good smell for interiors. The Carsthatlast series on KZbin is good for choosing which vehicles are reliable enough to be worth it for rust repairs.

[@chris_b_liven]

Thanks for giving me a few channels to watch. I haven’t seen any videos from either one so I’ll check them out. Thanks for watching 💯

[@IronMan-fe3uz]

Enjoyed the video. Would you happen to know the settings for esab rebel 215ic running 220v? I'm trying to braze rough joints on 20 guage sheet metal.

[@chris_b_liven]

Iron Man I’m not too sure on the Rebel 215. Are you using CUSI silicon bronze ? What wire size and gas?

[@IronMan-fe3uz]

Yes, it's 035 Harris wire purchased from cyber weld. 100% Argon. Using knurled roller

[@IronMan-fe3uz]

Thank you for responding...esab wasn't very helpful

[@chris_b_liven]

Iron Man what’s the biggest problem your having? You will want to be around 240-360 ipm at 17.5 volts range

[@IronMan-fe3uz]

Thanks I will give those settings a go

[@crashbandit3018]

Great video always enjoy your content.

[@chris_b_liven]

Ryan Allison Thanks for watching 🤘Trying to keep a little mix

[@darthvader5300]

In the 1950s I have read a book printed way back in the 1930s and 1920s that says silicone bronze alloy wires were used as telegraph wires for they are virtually unbreakable. I wonder why that knowledge is not printed in today's western engineering textbooks when all engineers should know about this alloy's other uses besides being used as a brazing filler material.

[@bruced1429]

I can't wait to try the silicon bronze on my 2200, ordered some hope it comes soon.Chris, on the 2200 is the metal core setting for dual shield? there is a setting for self shield and rutil 71t .the fluxcore wire I have is e71t wire so do I run it on the self shielded setting or the rutil 71t ? In short what wire do I run on what setting? thanks, love my 2200 on stick it is so smooth I think smoother than my transpocket 180.

[@chris_b_liven]

Bruce D You will want to use the 71t slot for dual shield flux cored wire. Metal cored wire is similar to flux cored but it doesn’t have any slag

[@serge.gilles.richard-seriago]

Great info, thanks! Now where do you buy the aluminum bronze (CUAL-2) ?

[@chris_b_liven]

Crown Alloys or Safra would be the best place to buy

[@user-kw4rn1ov9x]

Can this be used to weld brass to iron and brass to brass

[@chris_b_liven]

Yes, you can use silicon bronze or aluminum bronze but you will want to think about preheat. Preheat on iron will assist with cracking. Make sure you have sand and place the iron into the sand for slow cooling

[@user-kw4rn1ov9x]

@@chris_b_liven Thank you for your response

[@gariaveria5433]

Is there a mig brazing flux core? I have little experience on welding

[@themrjohn7323]

thanks for the cool n informative video! Jest one question; why do u say brazing is best for galvanized steel?

[@chris_b_liven]

Thanks for watching ... It really all depends on the thickness of the galvanized plate. If you start to get beyond 1/8 in plate then you should start thinking about solid wire just due to penetration and overall strength of the joint. For thinner material MIG brazing keeps overall heat input down and it eliminates a majority of the zinc burn off due to the melting point of the wire. If you decide to use solid wire you can successfully weld most lap joints or outside corners. The issue is with t joints due to the zinc not escaping from the molten weld pool causing porosity

[@themrjohn7323]

​@@chris_b_liven Thank you so much for the prompt reply! I just have few follow up questions. 1. Between normal and galvanized steel sheet, which one would produce better result? Basically my focus is on the effect on zinc coating on brazing procedure. (Apart from the porosity it causes). 2. Are most of thin steel plates galvanized thesedays? So, the reason why I am bombarding your with these questions are because I am a master student researching brazing on galvanized AHSS. I have somewhat good knowledge in the mechanism of welding and brazing but do not have much experience of doing them. I will be watching a lot of your videos and others for some 'over the shoulder' experience. :) Thanks!

[@chris_b_liven]

john cho 1. ) primarily you see galvanized sheet being used for anything that can eventually be corrosive. Primarily products effected by outside elements such vehicles, hvac units, cattle gates, security doors etc. Brazing the galvanized in my opinion is best due to the melting properties but the cost of the wire outweighs the benefits depending on the product

[@chris_b_liven]

john cho 2) Not all thin plates are galvanized as it’s dependent on the use of the product. If you are to use cold roll carbon steel and use sealants such as paint or clear coat then it would hold up to rust.

[@chris_b_liven]

john cho 3) We do see a large amount of automotive manufacturers using HSS & AHSS. I know the total heat input in the material is critical due to grain growth and cracking in the HAZ (heat affective zone) Silicon bronze could assist with the low heat input but I haven’t done much testing or seen anything on AHSS. I would have to research the topic a bit more or ask around. There are welding processes in the market to assist with welding HSS and AHSS in regards to total heat input. I know Fronius has one called Cold Metal Transfer

[@nikolai502]

Can this be used for replacing a quarterpanel?

[@chris_b_liven]

nikolai502 Yes

[@danielkondra107]

Highly recommend for it too, less heat, and corrosion protection on back side

[@heresteven]

crazy. i like it

[@chris_b_liven]

Thanks for watching 🙌

[@bruced1429]

Chris , I have tried the silicon bronze with my 2200, it seems okay , but I got more splatter than I thought I should. I used DCEP 035 on 1/8 in mild steel with mild mill scale. What do I need to do/set to get no splatter like you. I was at 300 fps 16.5 volts (gas at 25cf) and also on synergic for 125 thou. thanks for your reply in advance

[@chris_b_liven]

What kind of joint configuration? Did you use 100% Argon gas? Are you on 230 V power or 110v ?

[@bruced1429]

Hi Chris, it was a t joint and lap and an outside corner, using 100% argon on 230v stick out 3/8 to 1/2 inch. the lap joint was the worst, and I was pushing at 10 degrees with small rocking movement. thanks again

[@chris_b_liven]

Bruce D Sounds like too much wire feed speed compared to voltage. Have you tried turning up voltage separate? You can do it with the setting next to V - Voltage on the left side of it. If you turn it more positive it increases voltage in a percentage. So 5 would be 5% higher in voltage with the same wire feed

[@bruced1429]

thank you Chris I will give it a go next week thanks again.,, ps what setting should I start with on manual ?

[@chris_b_liven]

I haven't tried the silicon bronze in manual mode yet. Maybe this weekend I'll try it

[@leonardpearlman4017]

Part way through: I think there would be less confusion here (and we're here to become less confused, right?) if our host didn't keep SAYING "weld" where it is meant "braze", "join", or "bronze-weld". If I am teaching this to a group of beginners, I might not say "bronze-weld" even if it's right, because it's confusing! There's NO WELDING going on here today! Base metal is NOT MELTED, the original edges of the base materials can still be found. Not a weld!

[@chris_b_liven]

I agree. It’s a very difficult term to say correctly when we are so used to saying “welding”. I caught my self slip a few times. Thanks for watching

[@leonardpearlman4017]

@@chris_b_liven Don't get me wrong! I really want to see this, I want to DO IT, I've seen the results of this, bought the wire, not quite pulled it off yet. People who CAN MIG-Braze love it!

[@paulbaron5243]

No comments on your attempt to turn yourself into MR T.

[@chris_b_liven]

Thanks for watching 😜

[@robburtnick577]

Hello, I have enjoyed your videos. My question: Where can I get the Gas Nozzle you used in this video? Machine: Transsteel 2200 Gun: MTG 320i US-Style Ergonomic Handle I live in Canada... Fronius Canada Ltd is telling me that a Tappered version is not available. Baker Gas does sell one... Fronius Tapered Gas Nozzle for MTG 320i MIG Gun - 4403502108 Love the system, but finding information, or accessories is a bugger. Any help would be appreciated. Rob

[@chris_b_liven]

Rob, which tapered nozzle ? The one in the intro of the video ? I’ve never tried using this nozzle on the MTG 320i as it’s more for robotics . Or was it on the handheld torch I was using ? Was it silver ? If it was on the manual torch we do offer narrow gap nozzle part number 44,0350,2108,5

[@robburtnick577]

@@chris_b_liven Hello, I found this at Baker Gas. bakersgas.com/collections/fronius/products/fronius-tapered-gas-nozzle-for-mtg-320i-mig-gun-4403502108. Is that the one you are referring to? If so, Fronius Canada says it is not available. I was told it would overheat my gun.

[@chris_b_liven]

Rob Burtnick yes this is the one

[@robburtnick577]

@@chris_b_liven Thanks

[@sto2779]

dude is riff raff's lil brother lol

[@chris_b_liven]

+S To 😂

[@komoru]

You may want to normalize your audio level. Your audio is really loud when you do your voiceover in comparison to when you're speaking on camera, and it is pretty jarring to the headphone user.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

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[@chris_b_liven]

Yes IG .... Same name

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

@@chris_b_liven hi mate I've just messaged you on Instagram

[@kevinmoree1258]

ban this type welding be done with a 180 lincoln mig welder

[@chris_b_liven]

Short circuit is the best for thin gauge