MIG Welding Aluminum | Fronius TransSteel 2200

[@sdobrikovic]

Two production welders came from Spain to do some welding on a new trains we import but accidentally damaged in delivery. When they saw Fronius Transpuls Synergic 2700 CMT they just said "thank you God"

[@Thefabforums]

lol

[@cattleprods911]

I've used them (TransPulse) on a pipeline job in Kuwait...50 C temps (120 F or close to it), 1 km per day, CRC auto wire delivery system. Made me a believer in the brand, Fronius def kicks ass.

[@mrbond8181]

i have mig machine fronius vario star 240 old model made in austria..very smooth and no big problem..i'm still use this machine right now..sorry for my broken english..

[@frankm8533]

The price isn't bad for all is does! I'm going to look into it that. I just have a basic Mig

[@thetrannyshop5596]

Nice aluminum welds. At my work I have a Millermatic 252 and an old, finicky, spoolgun. Weld aluminum all day, on a good day it comes out just as nice. Wouldn't mind giving that Fronius a try. Doubt the boss will be replacing our Millers though.

[@pureblack8985]

Im curious to see when an actual TPSi machine will get reviewed by an american youtuber, that thing rocks !

[@robbieb1254]

We just bought a new one through work... awesome. So smooth, just a few teething issues though. The old TPS270 still has its replace. Reliable as, use them in the audi factories

[@waitemc]

I've been wanting this beast since the first day I seen this

[@izzyboss6875]

Why do I have to pay $5500 for one of these in Australia???? Fucken Australia tax.....

[@asherdie]

Because you disarmed yourselves and the government can do as it wishes.

[@asherdie]

@Aaron McNab I fear our path within the U.S. will be rough over the next ten to twenty years.

[@spencer5082]

I could be wrong but Wire Speed and Amperage is the same thing. What you meant to say was Wire Speed and Volts? This is where the synergy comes in. It keeps the wire Speed and the volts synergic together. Amps in MIG welding are the same thing as your wire speed. As crazy as that sounds. But yeah.

[@justinlambert2447]

I find the synergic mode choosing mild steel material thickness over 1/8", is way too hot, is there a way to adjust the presets? 210 thickness, not quite 1/4", sets wire speed to 550, and 27.6 V, I adjust it down to about 450 wire speed, 22-23V and it seems about right. Otherwise very impressive machine.

[@mgeb101]

If you need your weld to be a bit hotter in synergic mode just increase the "arc force" it's on the right dial ;) Btw... Awesome machine, got me into welding again because it's so easy with it...

[@kevinhornbuckle]

That's cool that you can also stick weld with it. You need stick every once in a while.

[@randypatterson8201]

Crazy awesome welder. Still love the info after all these years. What kinda deal, compared to a Lincoln or like, are these ?

[@rsanchez5676]

Stupid question. Why can you mig weld aluminum but with the same machine , you can’t Tig weld aluminum?

[@michaelmungovan2779]

Will it burn 1/8” 6010 rods?

[@andycarpenter5561]

no it will not. neither will the 2700

[@Urchfab]

They look like nice kit, Haven't seen them in any uk shops yet. Just watched chukees torture test, that's pretty impressive!

[@Thefabforums]

Urchfab lol...yeah I want about to do it to mine

[@bra_todo]

Loved this clip man -- cool sense of humor and straight in the eye talk. I'd love to hear how you compare this with a Fronius MagicWave 230i to this Transsteel 2200. You can tell from the question I am a total newbie, but from all I've read it seems like the Transsteel 2200 is an all-around knife, while the MagicWave 230i is some sort of a surgical scalpel... Care to comment ? Thanks again for your content! High quality content, just like the Fronius. Subscribed already!

[@rpaull3]

Mine says no program when I switch to synergic for aluminum

[@weldingjunkie]

Good job with the aluminum. What a great machine. Looking foward to more

[@fernandorosales2418]

Does the common welding supply house carry consumables for these machines?

[@chris_b_liven]

Fernando Rosales Fronius focuses on distributors which bring a full customer experience from service, inventory, employee training and much more... Shoot me and email with your info and I can get you in for a demo [e-mail]

[@octavevdw4899]

Convincing, cool review. Would have been great to see some more tips, tricks and settings on Alu mig welding with this machine. The results still tend to be chunky, or you just burn through, especially with thinner material...

[@heartobefelt]

if you burn through you were probably too cold and too slow . Turn up the volts and travel faster !

[@fernandomarcano4908]

So between the 2200 and the 2700...which one wins?

[@davidholdman8015]

Yep

[@nicholasinfinger8708]

No preheating required? Also what wire speed?

[@jodydewey3516]

Do you have a recommendation for a plasma cutter to round out the setup? I definitely want an all in one unit but the Everlast offers one with MIG/TIG/Stick/Plasma.

[@Thefabforums]

Jody Dewey I own an ESAB plasma...dont have any other experience with the Everlast or other brands.

[@gordowg1wg145]

If you are prepared to consider a stand-alone plasma cutter, Hypertherm ONLY make 'cutters and are very highly regarded - for a hobbiest their Powermax 30 AIR seems about right - haven't used one, myself, though it is on the 'want it' list - it has a reasonable capacity for cutting and it has a built in compressor so is very portable as it doesn't need a separate compressed air/gas supply.

[@bryanford1139]

Ditto that Gordo, Hypertherm all the way. My Powermax 600 does 3/8" all day with ease. It says max recommended is 5/8", but I've actually severed 1" :)

[@spencerbriercliffe9415]

Oh dang, I definitely didn't get a nice mig whip like that with mine!

[@cecil6711]

That is one BOSS machine!!!!! It kinda makes me want to blow mine up so I can justify buying one of those beauties. :-)

[@bryanford1139]

DO IT!!!!! I did, not regretting it one bit :)

[@-lupa6698]

Anyone know how much these machines go for $ ?

[@josephmartinez9468]

Paul Grace I was quoted $2,850 for the model he's reviewing in the video by Fronius.

[@JohnSmith-ho8up]

Anything better come out yet?

[@SolveFixBuild]

$2500 - would you ever see the need for AC TIG after buying this?

[@chris_b_liven]

Davion Hill My opinion depends on how much TIG work you do vs MIG and what is acceptable for you or the customer. At the end of the day, TIG is TIG and there is a need for all processes depending on work

[@dwight9045]

Hey, can you tell me the maximum recommended thinkness

[@BMRStudio]

It’s not Friday, but I need this tool! No German resellers.... Or I’am FOOL?

[@Thefabforums]

Not sure. They are made in Austria so I would think so.

[@mikeduhm5325]

Cool machine, out of my budget tho. Impressive on aluminum without needing a spoolgun or push pull setup. Is that a lift arc or hf start on tig?

[@Thefabforums]

Its HF

[@sbranham86]

My 2200 doesn’t have HF tig. Mines lift arc tig

[@adambergmann7716]

@@Thefabforums i asked fronius directly its not hf its lift are essentially

[@Mikegofishing]

Nice machine!

[@engjds]

They havent thought of everything though, you cant use cellulose even though it should having 90v open circuit voltage, unlike their cheaper machines (transpocket). You have to change liner for flux core, only one gas pipe is included as standard, consumables not supplied either, its a real pain buying one of these machines, expect to pay another half grand on accessories and significant time communicating with the supplier on essentials to get you started.

[@Mctyz125M]

How are they as a company for warranty or service repairs? Service repair turn over time?

[@Thefabforums]

3 year warranty on this machine, and they manufacture everything them selves (which is rare) so they can service in house with quick turn around.

[@Mctyz125M]

@@Thefabforums awesome, thank you

[@joeravinu3239]

Obviously you never used the Lincoln 210MP..best machine ever.

[@Thefabforums]

Right off I can see it weighs 6 pounds more, 20 amp less max, no high freq TIG start and requires a spool gun for MIG welding aluminum....I wont say that machine is bad but not the best ever.

[@thewespaul6520]

Kyle, what are your thoughts on an all in one machine like this versus having multiple machines that serve individual purposes?

[@Thefabforums]

I much rather individual machines which is why I will probably only have it setup to MIG, but I also understand that isn't practical for most people.

[@thewespaul6520]

The Fab Forums that’s my take as well, I’ve got four machines that all serve a specific purpose for me, but I can always use more.

[@heavymetalworks6375]

does it have ac side for alum tig?

[@chris_b_liven]

Heavy Metalworks No AC for TIG aluminum just DC

[@gordonturner8544]

very helpful thanks

[@Nghtmre-im5wc]

Hey Kyle i just got my first tig machine a couple months ago. I've been wanting to build a custom turbo system for my 75 chevy swb. My question is it necessary to back purge all my pipes?

[@Thefabforums]

yeah if its stainless

[@sbranham86]

Since that’s your dedicated aluminum mig machine, let me get that tig torch for my 2200...lol

[@mordantly]

What is the price... corporate websire wants to find a "dealer." I just want to know retail price. Looks cool auto set and all.. My mig was made by CK/Systematics pre-1985. Before they told you what the tap voltage is!

[@ibidu1]

around $2,440.00 is what they list them on websites. I dont know if thats suggested retail. But thats a lot of coin for a multi unit. Esab is about to release the same but with ac/dc I believe around the same price.

[@mordantly]

$2400? Could be a good price. A quick glance at duty cycle ratings leaves room for improvement. I don't know country of origin nor warranty details. It does have some sweet features neither of my transformer GMAW or MIG have. It's like motorcycles.. always worth looking at all the new stuff even if you don't want to buy it. By the way for a comparison my Miller Dynasty 210DX was $3650 for only the machine.

[@bryanford1139]

Just bought mine $2440. The corporate office will take your card over the phone if you don't have a dealer close to you, fyi. And, yes, I made sure it was ok with them to post that tidbit on the Interwebs(219-734-5500) Btw, most dealers are very un-familiar with them..... O ya, seriously..don't fret the price, I've been giggling like a schoolgirl with every pull of the trigger(after I figured out how to put it in " 'merican").....It's made in Austria(think BMW and Porsche)........hehe, went from a Yugo to a Porsche

[@farrierss1724]

Will it Tig alum in AC?

[@JoeBlow-no3dm]

I got to sell all of my welders my Miller, Hobart, and my AHP welder. So I can buy this one.

[@ibadlx5696]

I probably wouldn't do that.

[@biaggiwins]

You should, right away. I'll buy that AHP to help out.

[@welder8942]

Use the puls for ally, no spatter!

[@paidinfullmotorsports4681]

Any chance you know who sells these in the United States

[@chris_b_liven]

You can check for Partners here www.fronius.com/en-us/usa/contact#!/contactconfig/%7B%22contactSelectbox1%22%3A%22Perfect%20Welding%22%2C%22contactSelectbox2%22%3A%22US%22%2C%22contactSelectbox3%22%3A%22Sales%20and%20Service%22%7D

[@chris_b_liven]

or online here shopweldingsupplies.com/

[@ThatV12MiataBruh]

I just got my Mig machine and haven't even used it yet. How will I know if mine can do aluminum?

[@weldingjunkie]

That V12 Miata Bruh unless it’s a HTP Pro Pulse, Miller 350P or a fronuis most likely you need a spool gun. These 3 use mig whip torches to push aluminum for welding.

[@ThatV12MiataBruh]

Welding Junkie here's the thing. The salesman told me that if I want to do aluminum, he will make me a 5 foot torch so that the aluminum wire will feed through nicely but there are no settings on the machine that seem to relate to switching over for aluminum welding

[@weldingjunkie]

That V12 Miata Bruh technically you don’t need any setting for it that’s just synergic that has them. A 5ft torch might work depends on the drive roll system, Teflon liner etc. a 8ft torch will also work. Here’s the catch it can be done but not easy and hard to work with. Plus the tips typically have to be high heat tips or you’ll melt them. I’ve used it in non alum set up welders in the past. I wouldn’t bother with your machine. I like pulse aluminum. But bottom line is you don’t need a specific setting any mig “can” run the wire.

[@ThatV12MiataBruh]

Welding Junkie I'm not concerned about the torch setup. I just want to know if there are settings I gotta change on the machine like when TIG welding aluminum its changed from DC to AC. My MIG machine is a dedicated MIG and my other machine is a dedicated TIG machine.

[@mikeduhm5325]

That V12 Miata Bruh setup is like steel, same polarity 100 percent argon gas. Without knowing the machine, is a spoolgun available? Aluminum uses a higher wire speed and voltage compared to same wire size and thickness on steel. For example with a Miller 252 and spoolgun with 4043 wire, about 20 volts and 360 ipm using .035 wire on 1/8" aluminum. More heat and faster travel speed than steel.

[@cyraxjoe04]

Howdy from the bottom of SC! Keep up the great work and awesome vids man!

[@Thefabforums]

thanks man

[@cyraxjoe04]

The Fab Forums what part of SC are you from?

[@Thefabforums]

upstate

[@cyraxjoe04]

The Fab Forums gotcha. If you're ever in the low country be pretty cool to meet you man.

[@soggybottomboys2792]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to use a gm gauge cluster from an 07 Duramax on another engine like a 12v53 Detroit diesel?

[@waitemc]

No but I want a 4-53t with Jake's for my ranger

[@ArthurJGuy]

Sooooo what does it do that my entry level Miller multimatic 215 doesn't? I don't see anything special so far.

[@Thefabforums]

Just just a few things right off I see the Fronius offers 15 more amps of power, better duty cycle (Fronius is 100% at 150 amps vs Miller is only 40% at 150 amps), Fronius has a 5 foot longer gun, doesn't require a spool gun for aluminum like the Miller does (which is an extra $450 ) The Fronius is 4 lbs lighter and has High Frequency TIG start vs lift arc on the Miller....

[@ArthurJGuy]

Gotcha, the only one that seems to matter really is the ability to MIG aluminum without the spool gun, the rest are all negligible.

[@Thefabforums]

Yeah from the outside looking in it's like a Ferrari vs Honda. Most say they both have 4 wheels, engine, doors, and seats. But its the drive that is so different.

[@fatherfixit9764]

@@Thefabforums did they remove the high frequency tig from this unit? ive only seen it with lift tig are you confusing it with the magic wave or the 2700?

[@CLU7CHxCl7Y]

whats a good welder for a beginner to start? iv always wanted to Make my own car stuff aha'

[@Thefabforums]

I would say the progression would be MIG first then TIG. You dont need a stick welder when working with cars. MIG welding is the easiest to learn and in the case of this machine you can work up to the TIG welding.

[@weldingjunkie]

HTP has a new machine out that is like the millermatics and they are really good price. It’s the HTP 200i easy set. Check it out, watch fir upcoming videos I’ll have some soon.

[@JC-un4bg]

Dude I've been wait to see one of the on ally

[@JoseMorales-qw1nh]

Big fan of your Channel just want to now the price for this machine

[@Thefabforums]

thanks man....they start at $2440 and go up to $2800 ish fully loaded.

[@carlosaguilera1948]

Podrían subtitularlo en español por favor

[@joshcrosson]

But does it gas weld, smart guy?

[@chris_b_liven]

joshcrosson yes

[@BigHayes7771]

Always wear a respirator welding aluminum

[@user-mv5oy6jp1p]

Этот аппарат стоит примерно ~10000€, сварочный шов такого качества на алюминий я положу аппаратом за 1000€

[@roostin]

If you have contact with fronius can you find out about a canadian distributer I've looked several times since seeing chuckees vids and can't find anything up north here please and thank you!

[@chris_b_liven]

shoot me an email at [e-mail] and I'll get you in contact with Canada

[@edmolloy7845]

Check with me out west - [e-mail]

[@roostin]

+MilkyCereal83 is this fronius Chris from chuckees vids?

[@chris_b_liven]

roostin You got that one ☝️

[@roostin]

+MilkyCereal83 decent!!

[@squirrel6687]

Is it pronounced "Fronius" as in "Frank" or Fur Roneius?

[@user-ex8oo7dy6p]

Нихрена не понял что говоришь, но блин это реально круто!

[@kennethrosbury2819]

you didn't say plasma cutting

[@Thefabforums]

it doesnt do plasma cutting

[@wilsonandrade2220]

👍👍👍

[@rixxxer5460]

is this a paid review by fronius?

[@Thefabforums]

Yes it was

[@SRMotoring]

Awesome channel! Subscribed as soon as I saw that you were from SC! We are in SC too, would love it if you checked us out! Maybe we can do a video together one day if our cars ever run again haha.

[@Thefabforums]

cool where are you guys located

[@SRMotoring]

The Fab Forums Myrtle Beach area.

[@1armedguy4]

That's one of the major problems with guys welding car frames building trailers and such . They start with the mig and have 0 skills or training, so away they go, great if it's on the flat, haven't a clue how to do vertical up, everything is down hand . Start out on a stick machine people learn how to set your machine, how manipulate the weld puddle in each position. Get the basics down and then give the old wire feed a go, welding was a two year course and out of those two years one week was dedicated to mig welding. That tells it all doesn't it, you can teach a monkey too run a wire feed, next time you hear about trailer being towed down a major highway and ending up causing a serious accident due to poor inconsistent welding, take heed wannabe welders cause lawsuits follow !

[@Thefabforums]

Nobody builds cars or trailers with stick welders....or boats, planes or trains. It's all MIG or TIG

[@gordowg1wg145]

You got the skills, hard earned, which is great. However, that does not automatically mean that someone who hasn't put in the time can't do as well a job on the welds they do* - they don't generally need overhead, for example, or are welding critical sections and, even then, there are some very skilled and capable self taught people who actually care about learning. Here, certification is required for welders building heavy trailers and towing equipment and where it isn't, the work has to be checked and certified - still get failures, though, and a lot of those are due to subsequent damage, abuse and plain stupidity on the part of the user. Some, however is due to plain shoddy work by supposed expert welders, design engineers and certification of the completed work - been two instances where a certifier has had their authority recinded and vehicles ordered to stop towing until recertified by an authorised authority. *During your training, you will recall some who could just 'do it' right from the start and others who struggled and barely made it through.

[@-tr0n]

Mig is easy, that's why it exists. It's also easy to end up with a great looking weld with zero penetration. I agree that people should learn to weld via stick or oxy for proper puddle control and positional welding, and that's how all of our welding courses are designed, but not everyone needs a 7 month 6 hour a day course like I had to take.

[@1armedguy4]

I guess my point I was trying to make FF scraped the top of your welding helmet. I know some people will never touch a stick machine, so be it, but basics is where you start no matter what type of process your about to use. In the offshore oil industry where the penetration, withe, height your rate of speed, amperage, etc are all under tight perimeters as per set process. With forty years in this business I've seen many people kicked down the road for not having the basics down . Just saying ! Have a splendid day won't ya !

[@gordowg1wg145]

Fair enough, if they can't do the job to spec's - "don't let the door hit you on the way out"... Those are CRITICAL welds, nothing close to 'good enough'.

[@tomthompson7400]

not a lot of welding there ,, just hot air maybe its a plastic welder.

[@xebokx]

So all talk no welding... Typical

[@OffTheBeatenPath_]

Paid ad....

[@Thefabforums]

Yeah

[@OffTheBeatenPath_]

We need more biased reviews.

[@OffTheBeatenPath_]

I don't have "TV". I did give this video a thumbs down and didn't watch it. So thanks for the advice

[@chandukumar1135]

Chandu.kumar