Mike Bickle's Worst Betrayal: Asked IHOPKC Leader to Be Quiet While His Son Had Affair with His Wife

[@LalaChristmas]

These leaders that have come forward … there hearts were in the right place from what I have witnessed . You never think someone close to you is a predator . These demonic spirits are very cunning and Mike is a very charismatic person and he fooled a lot of people for decades . God let your light shine . Thank you to everyone who have stood up for the victims of this monster

[@elsiezimmerman4304]

This shows the length IHOP-KC leaders went to cover up for Mike Bickle!! So Mike was more important than the sin that was taking place!!!

[@judykegin3650]

Thank you for thinking and advocating for this precious family. She shared with love for the people wounded.

[@park4303]

Wow! She is a true believer and leader. Thank u and ur husband for doing right.

[@destinycoach5]

Oh my gosh it just keeps getting worse and worse. So now not only is mike spiritually and sexual abusing so is is son and its not a secret??!!? This is outrageous!!!

[@jimorsheryl]

Wait until the sexual sin that goes on in the church all the time, starts to be exposed. Remember even lusting after someone is sexual sin.

[@triquepersonalwork6369]

The problem isn’t the sin that was going on but that the leaders are completely unrepentant. “they will say, I did this and that in my name, and I will say, depart from me you workers of lawlessness. I never knew you”

[@DebraCossu]

Such love of truth, and courage, will never be silenced! I am so grateful for her clarion voice, and those with her, resounding so bravely in defense of the ones who have been abused and deceived, and also for the ones blinded by false loyalty to leadership without being aware of the facts, so they too can be free! I am appalled by those who claim to know and love Jesus that but have known the truth all these years, and also the ones who just recently found out, that are more concerned with defending lies and a ministry, rather than lives that have been wickedly damaged and the name of the Lord they have forgotten knows it all! Truth brings everything and everyone into the light, and will never comply in silence

[@c.stephanieberry8695]

Not me. How is it that they did not realize that complicity in silence was purely evil? They were not part of the prayer movement at that point, they were involved in sin and it’s cover-up. Looking at Jesus would never have allowed them to do the delay that they did. If they had been looking at Jesus, they never could’ve compromised. Sorry. This is not fearless truth. I’m glad they came forward, but what they did was wrong, deeply terribly wrong, like being silent as the Nazis rise. Same thing.

[@godsstruggler8783]

I can identify to some degree as the man who was alone, separated from his family, labelled the one in the wrong and subsequently ignored. It wasn't another Christian that seduced my wife, so the church rallying around her were not protecting a leader - they were simply believing lies. They knew not about her infidelity. Because I had previously made a very vocal stand against the church position on 'C' and 'V', the first thing somebody said to my (now ex) wife on hearing that I had been put out the family home was: "Now he's gone, you and the kids can get protected" So how much more would cowardly men protect leaders when doing so protects their own positions, titles and interests? I love that lady's heart attitude. She has infinitely more authority than any of the cowards running IHOP because she loves with the love that Jesus has given her.

[@knowsmebyname]

I get the feeling this woman was underestimated at the start. For some reason i feel that way. Sorry about your trbl and for your loss. Have you recovered yet?

[@apressbutton]

Apparently according to Volz lHOPKC is no longer in a state of crisis anymore. So pretty much any other victims that come out will be swept under the rug. This is not a reflection of Christ likeness but of people in places of power and money with a lot to hide, so this is the best cover up that their money could buy. I am genuinely afraid for their eternal soul’s.

[@knowsmebyname]

They are not Christians. Its time to forget them and work to end this cult and save those they still influence.

[@miker1721]

“Seared Consciences”

[@tboned1]

it's fascinating that none of these folks realize they were in a cult

[@knowsmebyname]

I was in a cult. None of us knew. Some ppl still deny it. 25 years later

[@45squared]

This issue of cult-like spiritual deception is 2Thess2:10-12 universal to humanity and is the reason so many more go to hell than get into heaven. Greedy prophets are part of it. Mic 3:3 Who have eaten the flesh of my people, and have flayed their skin off them: and have broken, and chopped their bones as for the kettle, and as flesh in the midst of the pot. Mic 3:4 Then shall they cry to the Lord, and he will not hear them: and he will hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved wickedly in their devices. Mic 3:5 Thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that make my people err: that bite with their teeth, and preach peace: and if a man give not something into their mouth, they prepare war against him. Mic 3:6 Therefore night shall be to you instead of vision, and darkness to you instead of divination: and the sun shall go down upon the prophets, and the day shall be darkened over them. Mic 3:7 And they shall be confounded that see visions, and the diviners shall be confounded: and they shall all cover their faces, because there is no answer of God. God’s plan is part of it. Isa 6:9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Isa 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. Dethroning pride is part of it. Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth. Exalting Jesus is part of it. 1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew. For if they had known it, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory. 〰️〰️〰️〰️〰️〰️〰️〰️ @destinycoach5 • 5h ago @11pmCST 3.10.2024 @45squared it would be great to get a response to this without the full sermon. You must know that no one reads past the 1st paragraph.... Right? Why do you guva feel the need to vo preach your response? Give a few examples and scriptures and be done. ~~~ reply ~~~ @4am 3.11.2024 Please watch the most recent 4 second long #short video I made. A picture is worth a thousand words. The solution keeps getting ignored.

[@HalcyonDaysRadiate]

It’s not a cult. It’s true Christianity under false leadership.

[@JillVic]

I haven't often watched IHOP on TV or online, but always felt their style of music to be mantra-like and hypnotic!

[@destinycoach5]

​@@JillVicthat's watching from outside. When you were in worship with it the music was fantastic!!!

[@knowsmebyname]

3:00 this woman has a firm grasp on the situation. She's smart and has good instincts. And she is asking why the body of Christ is not engaging. Is not interested. Will not help. Many of us are asking these same questions. This is a new deal imo. Bickle...a major Christian "leader" is showing less integrity than a secular person. The body of Christ is not used to dealing with a person like this.

[@MamaGenn]

The BOC had at least 50% doing this and worse. We dont even know

[@heman7767]

​Why do you call it the body of Christ, when it is not?!!​@@MamaGenn

[@seanm2216]

It isn't as easy as you think when it is a group of independent churches. Mike is not a major leader, except for only those independent fringe churches who listened to him. So which part of the body of Christ is supposed to lend support? What are they supposed to do except suggest that people leave such churches? It is kind of hard to do something when there isn't truly the authority to do something. Look at even the denominational churches or those under strong central leadership, they too have problems and they also sweep things under the rug.

[@knowsmebyname]

@@seanm2216 speak out. Thats all people are looking for. 10 minutes from the pulpit.

[@knowsmebyname]

@@seanm2216 20 minutes on a podcast and 5 mts on Sunday they can do. What is going on here? Why aren't you upset? This story is the most appalling story of abuse I have heard of in the charismatic movement. Ted Haggard did not have a system to serially abuse boys just out of their tweens.

[@TroyStevens430]

Tip of the iceberg.

[@knowsmebyname]

Almost certainly. And its going to be ugly for whoever ends up digging. Glad it wont be me.

[@Butterfly-truth]

Um. The description here doesn't go far enough. It's not just as if Bickle said, "my son wants your wife, let him have her,'' (bad enough for sure) but that he was going to put off the investigation into this affair with his son so that they wouldn't UNCOVER his OWN sin with this woman, which was going to have to happen if they kept probing. Sneaky, Snakey Mike who turned the House of Prayer into a den of thieves. Stealing young innocence, his neighbor's wife, and God's glory all at once. And living off the ministry income too. The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. Who knew this would reach back to Mike Bickle? Obviously, the wife knew. 🤫

[@JHawk-f5i]

Thank God for exposing this cult and false teacher Bickle. I pray God will do the same with Bethel church in California, and New Ager Bill Johnson, and heretical Hillsong and heretic Steven Furtick of Elevation church!!

[@turboleggy]

​@@JHawk-f5iwhat's your issue with bethel?

[@destinycoach5]

​@@JHawk-f5ioh yea bethel, elevation Copeland all need to come down!!+

[@destinycoach5]

Ok can I have some details please..or fill in the blanks Mikes son was having affair with a leaders wife and Mike told the leader to 'keep quiet about it'. Meanwhile Mike also had an affair with the same woman? Is this right?

[@Butterfly-truth]

@@destinycoach5 That's what was revealed on at least one other YT channel but you can read The Roys Report article titled: Advocate Group: IHOPKC Founder Mike Bickle Covered Up Son’s Affair, Threatened Whistleblower. (The report references a video that is linked on that report). "In the video, Briggs also alleged that Mike Bickle engaged in “very questionable interactions” for six years with the wife before Luke had the affair with the same woman." Edit: if you click on the that video, watch @ 16:00 mins to hear the allegation that Mike had six year affair with the same woman before his son got involved with her.

[@Dr.Aiken-Isaac]

I finally get it. God has brought judgment upon Mike not only for HIS sin, but for the way he handled the sins of others. He was lenient, negligent, & remiss. There was no fear of God. To whom much is given, nothing is required. … NO! MUCH IS REQUIRED!, which means everything is required: integrity, holiness, honesty, humility, purity, & character. It’s devastating how the mighty have fallen.😔

[@sheilaboland6285]

God also is shining a light on mob mentality!

[@Dr.Aiken-Isaac]

Exactly … this pains me as much as his personal sin. The whole thing STINKS😷.

[@wolfgangdaniel]

Excellent points! If we mourn and examine ourselves, then we will understand how could all this happen to Mike right before our eyes. His sin is our corporate sin and together we can learn and heal, ourselves and Mike

[@clairstberry]

Wrong. Sounds good but it’s crap. Mike can only be healed if he wants it and will repent. Everyone’s not guilty with Mike. “We are all just one big happy family stumbling inevitably to Jesus. “ That’s a damnable lie. Jesus said he will burn the tares with unquenchable flames and put the sinners in everlasting torment. Stop this nonsense. Tell the truth.

[@kansashoneybadger7899]

Mike is a jerk and he sold a bunch of snakeoil to a large number of credulous people.

[@22Rom129]

Outrageous.

[@laurie9993]

Ihop and other charismatic organizations are NAIVE to not post a no-tolerance sexual harrassment policy/HR grievance procedure like any business! Standard practice. Why forget?? Ihop/others learn the hard way 😱

[@knowsmebyname]

Christians need to have their sexual house in order before ministry. Its 101 level stuff. Its understandable if you struggle sexually or with porn. Those are difficult items. Avoid leadership. And should you sin sexually fall quickly on your sword. There is no other way. People understand...you will be forgiven and we can move on. Of course using your ministry as a farm system for young and trustinf fresh meat is another story.

[@fluteloop6737]

You're assuming they're learning. They probably won't

[@laurie9993]

@@fluteloop6737 If they conduct themselves like a business they save LOTTA $. Legal cover. Someone will watch and learn 😱

[@laurie9993]

Ministries pay thru Nose if they don't "change" or spend $$$ legal fees a second time 😱@@fluteloop6737

[@laurie9993]

@@fluteloop6737 Pay $$$ if they don't change; generally people dislike losing $$$!

[@JonathanGrandt]

2:19 some manner of relationship? That’s as clear as you can get? What does that even mean? You exist in vague weeds.

[@MamaGenn]

Yup,,,she is implying something,, ut not saying it directly

[@kylepatterson1]

Why is this on you tube- this conversation makes no sense

[@Dana-hd8he]

The actual interview is 18-19 minutes long EXCELLENT. Also, she does a little over 2 hours beyond excellent with Blaise Forte and Spouse.

[@705W1]

God have mercy on those still attending IHKC !

[@robertburke9920]

So then, read the page-turner novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Explains much. Very much. Quite ameliorating.

[@borneyraybergantine2124]

For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

[@destinycoach5]

Loke5 any of this is a sign or wonder ?

[@TheFreedomDefender]

Hey, it's my old roommate Borny!

[@fondamclain4727]

Unbelievable

[@gungeIigung]

Rather believable.

[@knowsmebyname]

@@gungeIigung unbelievable to me. I always thought Bickle was a creepy snake but this is just the beginning and it is beyond what I expected.

[@gungeIigung]

@@knowsmebyname I also thought that he was creepy. Still do and that's why I believe it.

[@plc2866]

This is just evil what he did!

[@knowsmebyname]

10,000 view video. You did it. You are about to break out. Whoever you are you are a hero!

[@nessparadis6948]

2:20 😮😮😮

[@MartinEngelbrecht-ey3rl]

I blame the people around him, they looked on didn't question and twenty years later you have a super mess. Everyone stuffed up. Follow Jesus hold people accountable.

[@su....]

though even when you speak up, no one listens and you're given the boot

[@triquepersonalwork6369]

I am so sad about the sin at IHOP and equally sad about the condemnation that the church has put on the leaders there. Christians need to look inward at their own sin and get their life in order and realize that we are all on a journey of becoming better people in the Lord. Then we can realize we are all on the same boat and can give other Christian’s grace as Jesus gives all of us grace in our shortcomings and repentance

[@Redhill116]

Let’s hear from the woman about her life with this ‘devastated’ man. Then we will have the entire truth. Not just part of the truth.

[@miker1721]

“Two wrongs don’t make a right “

[@Redhill116]

I agree @miker1721 not my point

[@philipd8868]

True, always 2 sides, but the side with the power committed adultery, when in leadership positions, and punished the one who they sinned against - that is abuse of power and position, and ungodly to boot. The lady here is correct.

[@gregorycalvello3663]

Lord bless this woman of God and her family an bring healing to the community as they look too you. Sometimes men and woman drink to forget and find comfort to their problems but Gods word says, "Your Love is better than wine", Solomon 1: 2

[@45squared]

Sadly, Matthew25:41+ rejection of needy Jesus is believed to be more important to Bickle leadership than Matthew25:40 obedient love for needy Jesus. Knowing them by their fruit of hating Matt25:40 needy Jesus is the nail in the white-washed sepulcher coffin. God sees EVERYTHING. They just do not believe God is watching. They THINK God has Ezekiel8:12 ‘left the earth’ (stopped Proverbs15:3 watching what human leaders are doing in Isaiah56:7 prayer churches!)

[@su....]

if the only reason we don't do bad stuff is because we believe God is watching... yikes. fear never stops anything, just the external behavior. it doesn't change a heart. one of my favorite Jesus scriptures is "Fear not!" and actually, "Fear not" is in the Bible 356 times.

[@incredulouskirk]

Needy Jesus? Are you high? 😅

[@45squared]

@@incredulouskirk No, just oppressed by charlatans. KC🧬kzbin.info3lfUFxGs1M0?feature=shared Ecclesiastes 7:7 Surely oppression makes a wiseman go mad; and a bribe destroys the understanding.

[@jeffglidewell123]

We all sin, but leaders are held to a higher standard and, some sins, such as sexual sin, has greater consequences

[@maryjelle7144]

She is a hero ❤

[@WisdomSpeaks4u]

What kinda foolishness is this?

[@tommywarren4908]

See this is what happens when ur on some backyard proud boy bs with no real sponsors or speakers ! Money might buy time but when u hit the pearly gates u gona have real problems 😂

[@michelleogawa6332]

Ballsy yes!

[@nancygorman]

No gift of discerning of Spirits? Um

[@destinycoach5]

I guarantee you many discerned the problem many felt spirits of sexual perversion and many knew something was wrong.... But they all thought they were wrong in what they were seeing . Every person getting this vibe and knowings actually CONVINCED themselves that it can't possibly be true, this man can't be bad, he has to be legit Christian or how could this and that work as it did? They all believed THEY MUST BE WRONG !!! or They were Misinterpretating. Because that is how the spirit of DIVINATION and witchcraft works.. It makes you believe YOU ARE THE CRAZY ONE FOR THINKING SUCH TERRIBLE THINGS. We cannot eliminate the spirit of deception and witchcraft from any of this. People wonder why no one saw or discerned or knew they were in a cult. .... And that is because of the evil dark spirits over all this mess that continue to spin webs of deceit and shrouds it all under a veil of darkness and Creating an environment of sin. And for all those true followers, sincere and legit believers who could and did see, know, feel, discern... the witchcraft would most definitely be coming against them hard to make sure they couldnt put the pieces together to make a complete story and to make them feel like they were crazy. I was in a situation under an apostolic father and I saw things not right (no sexual misconduct) I knew things were off. I heard A B and D but C was always missing. I knew stuff saw stuff and felt stirrings of wrong doing but I just couldn't get it all together. I was under it for a decade and for 5 years I begged God to show me and confirm what I thought I knew. I got no understanding... Until this apostolic father left town. Literally 24 hours after he left the veil was lifted and suddenly I saw it all as clear as day. . I was SO ANGRY with the Lord for not confirming what I knew and even asked him directly about. I didn't speak to god for 6 months. I was enraged at losing 5 years to serving a man I knew was just wrong. Then one day I woke up and suddenly I knew it wasn't God that had protected this man.... It was the SPIRIT OF DIVINATION!!! The reason I suddenly could make sense of all the things that I knew but couldn't add up was because the spirit of divination was preventing me from getting the full pix. It was protecting the man because the man was doing damage. I fell on my face in repentance to the Lord for blaming him and being so enraged i didn't speak to him for 6 months. Everything was clear for 1st time in a decade.

[@beatlebomb452]

I'm confused. At what point did the women ever become a party to the sin...or were they total brainwashed by their "prophet"? What's the deal. Two to tango and all that.

[@docbarm3338]

Sexual sin being hidden, quieted, ignored, downplayed, excused, is most definitely confusing - especially when it is in the church and by people you thought you could trust. This woman speaking is discussing the fact that a man shared that his wife was having and affair with Mike’s son… but it was darker and deeper… and it came out that Mike also had a relationship with this man’s wife much earlier. Hope that helps clarify. The man was silenced by manipulation and control- Mike, this man’s wife, or Mike’s son - in addition to the ELT leaders are the spiritual abusers, according to the firsthand statement by this woman.

[@desleymendoza7445]

In God's eyes, they are all guilty to some extent, some more than others. In the eyes of our "me too," feminist world, they are all victims. Most would be horrified to learn that under the Mosaic law, any women who failed to "cry out" would be put to death for adultery, by God's decree. Apparently God doesn't see things the way feminists do.

[@preacherbarbie]

Bickle went after the naive and impressionable, for good reason. This was not only predatory behavior it was premeditated. It's a fearful thing to be in The Hands of The Living God🙏

[@praytoescape6651]

Most often, When there is a church", that is led by false prophets, there is going to be sexual misconduct. consider it.

[@JGause74]

Jesus.....

[@lucia7546]

Ok.....now everybody knows!