Mike Calls Out the Faker in Therapy Session | Better Call Saul (Jonathan Banks)

[@slazo14]

Left out the part at the end when Mike says the reason he’s there is to sell them some meth

[@yaboi269]

Fucking lmfao

[@TheKieselstein]

Waltuh, you are nothing to me but a customer

[@quintynhendersom9387]

I made you my bitch, waltuh

[@HazeAroundtheWorld]

​@@TheKieselstein I made you my bitch!

[@ChaseyBoyJones]

I think you got the person wrong, but I just don't know who. (I am joking, I know who it is, I’m just playing)

[@crooper6052]

The faker was thinking about attacking Mike, but you can see the desperation on his face as he walks out when he realized he couldn’t since Mike is in Breaking Bad.

[@randooz1992]

It’s just a tv show bro

[@bazingo5610]

@@randooz1992 lil bro doesn't understand the joke

[@OrbObserver]

​@@randooz1992lil bro talks down to people who think about stuff reflexively, little bro is going to be working for low wages his whole life.

[@randooz1992]

@ k lil bro

[@bazingo5610]

@@randooz1992 lil bro doesn't know how to @ people

[@nicholasbarber8531]

Its true that Mike's motive was selfish here, but not only is allowing a liar to stay in group a betrayal of everyone there genuinely (people making a phony story to get support out of a support group is not uncommon), but the lead not noticing it indicates that he wasnt paying attention to the guy's fake story, and neither was anyone else. They were just registering it as sad, not engaging with the human being who was talking.

[@obscure.reference]

really it just shows that the writers wanted another epic mike moment

[@Mackinstyle]

Yeah, I mean it was written for the story. But I feel like the Mike character would have known to apply pressure to the leader over failing everyone else, not applying pressure to everyone else.

[@bobbobson6290]

In the end it doesn't matter at all. It changes nothing if that guy lies to them.

[@ConradKurze]

people is the support groups essentially don't give a shit about the others. They come there, they speak honestly about themselves, they find someone who listens to them, who does not judge or argue. And that works, that process act as a powerful therapy, people feel better, they might realise something about themselves and change. But fundamentally it's a selfish thing, you come there to relief your problems and your pain. If you're lying and inventing some story, you don't fool anyone but yourself. The fact that Mike tries to catch that guy on a lie just show that he doesn't accept that therapy, doesn't believe that it'll work. He focus on other people stories insted of thinking about his.

[@LucianDevine]

@@ConradKurze Not really listening it seems, or they'd have been able to tell that the guy was a fraud, since he piggybacks off of whatever vacations his coworkers come back from, or possibly even these people too. If they say a foreign location, he prolly pulls the same crap that he pulled here. The people in this particular group could get just as much support from a cat or a dog for as much genuine listening is going on from anybody but Mike.

[@jakep1979]

"I will go to the public library and get the 1997 papers and run a search on Judy DeVore..." - You know perfectly well that Mike did that. Mike always come prepared.

[@pjpj2051]

Best answer: "It's Judy DeVoire, you insensitive pr-ck". The leave in tears and have a friend call the group leader with news of your suicide. Mike would be popular then.

[@cgbleak]

Good point--he already did it! And it's not like Mike to get his facts wrong. He'd look up Judy DeVore,, DiVore, DiVoire, DeVoire, DuhVoire, Doh!Voire, etc. Careless he ain't.

[@DROP_BEARZ]

Poker is a deadly game...

[@fortwaltonbleach1475]

no half measures.

[@chriswelcome8102]

@@pjpj2051 Would most likely say "Dearly beloved wife of Henry" or something similar, so it would be easy to match up Besides, saying "That's just not true" does not sound like how someone with a real wife who passed away from cancer would say. Zero emotion. Glances to both sides to see peoples reactions. I mean any other reaction would be far better than how he did initially so he basically closed off all his options from the start

[@hzzxmzda1094]

Poor lady just wanted to go to Australia AND Cuba, may she rest in peace.

[@richardgrier8968]

Australia and Cuba are so similar. It’s easy to mix them up. They’re both islands run by a dictator and they both have kangaroos.

[@3ggh3ad]

the loss of CPT HOLT really hurt him :(

[@obscure.reference]

@@richardgrier8968 and prison islands if you consider what the us does in guantanamo

[@voiskumbeaver3285]

Maybe SHE'S the liar

[@Chimpiin]

No. It’s well-known that you cannot want to go to both. Nobody has ever been to both by choice either. It’s impossible.

[@thecowboy9698]

Mike did these people a favor. This guy was making a fool out of people who went through some tough ordeals, he called him out for it, and then said to the others, if I had to put it into layman's terms: "You're so hung up on the past, you're not able to realize what's going on in the present, and it's costing you."

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

Remembering the past is perfectly fine, but if you stick to it, you'll never grow in the future

[@chrisbeaumont4630]

Ironically, Mike is also wrapped up in the past and letting it control his behaviour, he just focuses on ignoring it and throwing away his life to try fix what happened in the past. He's unable to speak at these meetings as he can't deal with his emotions openly. He calls everyone out for wallowing in misery and living in the past, rather than seeing they are trying to share their progress and get through things together. He doesn't try join in and just fixates on why the therapy won't help him, because the hold his trauma has on him makes him unable to open up and really try move on. In the end his plan to sacrifice himself to help his son's family and get revenge turned him into a massive criminal, and his corruption was ultimately for nothing. He ended up hurting the family he had left rather than provide for them. His way to deal with the pain was clearly a much worse approach than these people.

[@Lunarcheese72]

It is not a favour He did it to keep things orderly for himself. He called out someone dishonest sure, but what "favour" did he do for the members of the group? He saddled everyone there with guilt over not "caring" enough about other members, added extra stress and to people's plates who are already barely coping, as well as making sure they're now distrusting and suspicious of every new person that joins. On the other end, "justice" is That guy gets kicked out of his larping group. There was absolutely nothing altruistic about this, it was just him venting his frustration by flexing his chops and seizing a measly modicum of control because it felt more comfortable than being vulnerable, as one's expected to be in such a group. Mike definitely wouldn't want to admit it by Breaking Bad, but he has a bit of that urge that Walt does to stick his head up in spite of best interest saying not to, even if his intent is often a bit more noble.

[@alphanerd7221]

He didn't do anyone any favors. Being made a fool of doesn't matter unless you know it happened.

[@elijahbuscho7715]

What's it costing them though? I feel like that's not clearly presented here. Believing the sympathetic lies of another is not necessarily bad. Some lies are inconsequential, so it doesn't matter if you believe them or not. What is consequential about these lies that makes it bad to believe them?

[@DerekTheHaas]

Imagine being told your dead wife never existed because she wanted to go to both Australia and Cuba

[@BobLovesKaren]

He also told a story about taking her to a night game at Wrigley Field before they had lights. Never doubt Ehrmantraut.

[@jamesteggert2280]

In the context of the scene he is already clearly worked up by this guy implying he has noticed a pattern of lies and this was just the last straw.

[@tomwhite3271]

Imagine being told your dead wife never existed because she wanted to go to both Australia and Cuba

[@ChrisNorwood3]

In reality, she wanted to go to...Belize.

[@4TheRecord]

@@tomwhite3271 Imagine having no proof your dead wife ever existed.

[@I_am_Junebug]

Mike's bullshit detector is highly developed.

[@othervids3726]

Never bullshit a bullshitter

[@thechosenjuan8776]

@@othervids3726? How is Mike a bullshitter

[@maggoteater2290]

​@@thechosenjuan8776 pretending to be an upstanding person while being a serial killer

[@andytheshark]

​​@@maggoteater2290 So... most Serial Killers than?

[@maggoteater2290]

@@andytheshark what ?

[@gorgeouszan]

Great acting in this scene, before he speaks you can see in the body language how agitated he is getting while staring at the guy.

[@carpballet]

Almost like it was real!

[@SkywoodFarm]

@@carpballet AI could easily duplicate this and you'd say the same

[@carpballet]

@ Because if AI DID duplicate it, it would really be almost like it was real. Lol

[@SkywoodFarm]

@@carpballet point is, you and most people have reality & fantasy backwards, and can easily be fooled because you're amazed by low quality content.

[@trevor6433]

Pretty sure he was also getting agitated because his daughter in law was talking about how she is slowly forgetting about his son

[@dougbrown04]

Mike woulda ended fight club before it started.

[@billcarson3634]

Underrated comment!

[@marcuscato9083]

And he never would have even talked about it.

[@johnjacobsen1915]

@@marcuscato9083 well, it is the first rule

[@tunacan6166]

Such an underrated comment

[@user-dy2wp8lc6c]

"What hell happened to you? Oh I get it first rule of fight club"

[@KumbariTheMumabi]

When Mike yelled, "This guy's a great big PHONEY!" I almost cried.

[@houdic2]

Big fat PHONEY

[@GoldBrady]

I can’t NOT read this in the voice

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

A BIG FAT PHONY!

[@Kanders190]

@@GoldBrady HEY EVERYBODY

[@activatekruger446]

When Mike said "Liar liar, plants for hire!!" I (S)creamed. Bravo Vince

[@saulchapnick1566]

Mike looked so old in this scene. Like the old man in a group. His demeanor changed to the tough old guy when he spoke out about the faker.

[@maicoxmauler2825]

"You're right Mike. My husband wasn't named Judy I'm sorry for lying to you" "Oh fuck."

[@hat1324]

Seems like Mike's been sniffing this guy out for months. There was no escape

[@RamenHa]

hilarious

[@Slop_Box]

“His name Was Raymond holt.”

[@ThatsControversial]

Bravo, Vince!!!!

[@StudioScarecrow]

We’re not going to talk about Judy

[@Alphanumeric69]

Like the part where Mike looked at him closely and said "Wait a minute...This is the Bad Place."

[@caesarjergens]

I think he realized his real name was Kevin and he is married to Raymond Holt.

[@ronmathewjoe]

I was looking for this 😂

[@KumaTheGundamPilot]

EVEN MIKE FIGURED IT OUT ?!

[@hyper9374]

Lmao i love this

[@MeesterTweester]

"I take offense to that, Mike. She wanted to go both Cuba AND Australia."

[@Holdit66]

"...and on the same weekend, too!"

[@Big_Bad_Gammon]

Bro I'm seeing you everywhere lmao

[@MeesterTweester]

@ lol

[@MissusAnon]

He had way more inconsistencies up his sleeve... the fact he knew the year 'Judy' died when the liar didn't even mention it in this session, Mike was mentally logging these details for months. He's actually been listening to everyone, unlike everyone else who were only there for themselves to wallow in their own misery/did not care to actually connect with anyone else in the group. Man Mike is such a well-written character.

[@toddgaak422]

@@MissusAnon Yep. Like when the guy lied about going to a night game in Wrigley, before Wrigley had lights.

[@emperorreign6154]

He might have handled it the wrong way but Mike was nevertheless correct and a guy like that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a support group of genuine mourners who are suffering.

[@MattHelmSA]

Those rooms are so easy to manipulate though.. you'd be surprised how flippant these people part with their money

[@dancegod1691]

He was telling the truth, his wife was in breaking bad.

[@crongusclips7836]

@@dancegod1691what?

[@declanjones556]

There are support groups for just simply being male these days literally no reason

[@rogerwhite4073]

As someone who has attended my fair share of group therapy sessions in the last few years, I cannot tell you with any accuracy how many times I have wanted to jump up on a table and call out the bullshit. I go in hope of the few times that someone´s testimony wrings true, which thankfully can happen, but the rooms attract narcissists like aging fruit attracts flies.

[@jeydenryan2100]

Whenever I see a share circle with a Breaking Bad character in it I know some shit is gonna go down

[@obscure.reference]

YOU KNOW WHY I’M HERE? TO SELL YOU ALL METH

[@gwynm8506]

If you look really closely you can see that the character stormed off because mike realized he was lying. Great subtle detail by the director

[@whahappend8222]

This is why I always check the comments in between rewatches of a show. I never would have picked up on that.

[@juancarlosvelasquez9172]

Wait!!!… what??? I always thought that he left the premises to answer a phone call😮

[@unadventurer_]

Nailed it. These clips on YT are always filled with the dumbest base level observations. People are so damn dumb.

[@ItsPersonaTime]

bravo vince!

[@RealityCheck6T9]

If you look really closely you can see that Mike was angry.

[@DynV]

He was the only one truly listening.

[@ITIsFunnyDamnIT]

True, most people only wanna talk but no one really listens, which is why this faker could get away with what he was doing. many people only wanna hear themselves talk but not really listen.

[@inazuma3gou]

Fact: Australia is a Cuban village and consejo popular of the municipality of Jagüey Grande, Matanzas Province. It has an estimated population of 8,850.

[@obscure.reference]

that’s actually fascinating, but he did specify sydney so it doesnt go with the joke of mike being wrong

[@inazuma3gou]

@@obscure.reference I noticed that 😅 Maybe Sydney is a friend of the wife living in Australia, Cuba.

[@zoookx]

Sydney is the caffe in Australia.

[@kurttruk2]

"All wrapped in your sad little stories, feeding off each other's misery..." This is actually a powerful observation. Cause the point of group therapy should never be to be 'feeding' to reinforce the patterns of expression. If the person managing it isn't looking after the process isn't setting you up to improve over time, isn't protecting the group from a blind 'feeding' process, then you are not being looked after.

[@FunkBastid]

Mike scoped out their stories months ago

[@fikks7106]

Can't believe Captain Holt's husband was caught lying.

[@zenithsomining820]

Mike caught him because he knew captain holt.

[@landon5583]

He did lose his husband last year 😢

[@brianfarley4814]

He's also a devil in the Good Place, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

[@Vinchezno]

@@brianfarley4814 the good place is what happened when jake didn't protect kevin in the safehouse, he died and became a corporate devil

[@DevotedDisciple-x]

@landon5583 "He did lose his husband last year" Marriage is a covenant between man, woman and God. God is clear that it is only between a man a woman,. Therefore, it is impossible for a man to marry a man.

[@sladegrayson9840]

Then Mike stood up and said, “No more…[puts on sunglasses]…half measures.” And the group clapped as he walked out of the room.

[@Sgtvalentini]

Eeeeeeoooow!

[@TheBfutgreg]

Einstein personally gave Mike a handjob on the spot, no cap!!!

[@Zack29810]

poor Mike didn’t even wanna be there. never force therapy onto someone.

[@DukeJames]

Wasn't he just there for his daughter in law?

[@HYDEinallcaps]

"therapy is the ultimate force that cures everything and can never be criticized" "never force therapy onto someone" Pick one.

[@Zack29810]

@@HYDEinallcaps I never said that first quote. I don't like therapy.

[@shaunhunterit342]

@@Zack29810 as someone who has had several counsellors, I agree

[@HYDEinallcaps]

@@Zack29810 Should be more conscious of what you say, you were coming off as an "oh my therapy" type for a moment. Best wishes to you, remember to keep making fun of those types.

[@ElliottHurst]

Mike is a true savage here

[@conorwellman8592]

he warned them.

[@khanburger3610]

I think the makers of BB and BCS have something against group therapy 😭😭😭😭

[@Clivetinker]

For the wrestling fans, Kevin Nash had something pretty insightful about AA and group therapy. His friend for years Scott Hall had a massive drinking problem. They put him in rehab and Hall came out saying ‘maybe I’m not that bad’ considering all the other stories

[@orianultimer]

Actually the group therapy in Breaking Bad was pretty reasonable. The point then was to show how low Jesse had sunken to sell drugs to recovering addicts

[@heypistolero]

Complete opposite of the Sopranos, where group therapy was actually correct. Freaking ghosts

[@stephenkrahling1634]

Yeah like what was the point of this? It looks like Mike was right, this guy was faking his story, but why?? Why did they make a character that goes to group therapy sessions with a fake story? This guy's in his 40's or 50's easily, and doesn't seem to be getting anything out of it even if you buy Mike's take on group therapy - Which is already a super immature perspective from someone projecting their own internal problems onto other people If it's meant to be a character flaw with Mike, nobody pushes back or challenges him. Given this is the second time they've done a "group therapy but everyone there is a sucker" scene I think they genuinely have some kind of beef with the idea of group therapy... which is weird

[@cgbleak]

In BB, I thought they were most disrespectful to the Talking Pillow.

[@dashx1103]

“If I did have a tumor, I would name it Marla. Marla, the little scratch on the roof of your mouth that would heal if only you would stop tonguing it, but you can't.”

[@carmenorosco9868]

What!!!!????

[@dashx1103]

@ If you know, you know.

[@princessmarlena1359]

Saul: “If I ever get anal polyps, I’ll know what to name them!”

[@abominationdesolation8322]

You talking about my ex? Eerily accurate.

[@carmenorosco9868]

​@@dashx1103 I think I understand your comment about the tumor on the roof of your mouth. It took a bit.

[@wachimol]

3:32 Anytime I browse a subreddit related to my problems, I have this playing in my head

[@Jammsizzle]

That clock ticking in the background is just the right touch, adding to the tension and awkwardness of the situation. Amazing scene.

[@theamazingmeh1759]

"I found you! Faker!"

[@arealgamer342]

"Faker? Ha! You're not even good enough to be my fake!"

[@whosaidiwantedahandle]

"Faker? I think you're the fake griever around here."

[@Professor_Utonium_]

"I'll make you eat those words!"

[@Duwu02]

Brilliant

[@oreji3987]

Faker, what was that!!!

[@sugarette_burn]

Even though Mike made a direct critic to everyone involved there, he shows not only attention to detail, but he was caring enough to notice. Later when Saul was traumatized about "that one incident" he gave a honest speech about forgetting and moving on, that mirrors what her daughter in law expressed about Maty

[@konstantin9303]

And then Saul payed it forward to Kim!

[@obscure.reference]

love how characters constantly pick things up from each other in those shows

[@georgeadair5554]

On what Stacy said, it actually is a good thing that she made breakfast and didn’t think about him. It doesn’t mean she’s forgetting him, it means she’s starting to be able to do things without being weighed down by the loss of her husband

[@Pretzil43]

Mike wouldn't fall for the good place, this guys obviously a demon

[@Killzoneguy117]

"You got one part of that wrong Mike. This... is not Australia" *throws map of Cuba on the floor in slow mo*

[@vacri54]

I kinda feel like MIke should have said more for evidence than just one "last month it was Cuba". The obituaries thing was just a guess. Sure, we can assume Mike has picked up on other stuff, but it would have been more solid for us the viewers if he had a small laundry list instead of just "oh, so she wanted to go to both Cuba and Australia! It's clearly not possible to want two things!"

[@nickescobar6786]

The story was how they were gonna go to Australia because she always wanted to go. Mike was saying how last month it was Cuba, implying that Autralia was never mentioned

[@3irikur]

There was more. Just not in this scene

[@OrbObserver]

The point is we as the audience know Mike's judgement is good already.

[@SamBrickell]

I guess the writers didn't treat the audience like idiots (viewers of this show have seen literal hours of Mike doing extensive preparation and research in every facet of his life).

[@jacevicki]

Mike is the kind of guy to never ask you a question to learn something he can find out himself. He will go research it, then he asks the question to learn your character.

[@NeonPixels81]

That guy wanted to be in Fight Club and Mike reminded him he was in Better Call Saul.

[@DwightStJohn-t7y]

"too caught up in their own stuff" sounds like my work experience: Notice nothing; then are the first to judge;

[@Helbinor]

Sean's just glad that Mike didn't figure out they're already in the Bad Place.

[@RonJomero]

He went to go join Trevor in the bathroom because he, too, likes the smells.

[@8ullfrog]

This is exactly how I felt about hospice therapy, It didn't help, it fed on the misery.

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

Therapy always feeds on the misery. After I stopped therapy, my life improved significantly

[@DwightStJohn-t7y]

Good cop training, or any people training, you learn to look for the obvious.

[@thatzwhat]

In the real world, police officers become very good at detecting when people are lying. The difficulty is determining who is lying the least.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Kevin costner wouldn't be able to fool Mike.

[@paladin181]

He's not Kevin Costner!

[@p1mm3lm4nn]

He meant kevin cozner, that is the character Henrys actor plays in Brooklyn 99

[@cinnamonflavord]

Mike really fingered that guy out of the bunch

[@Mr.OrganStealer]

Kid named Finger really fingered that kid out of the bunch

[@infinix610]

Shaun from the Bad Place needed to go there to get his fix of extra human misery after they changed how souls were judged.

[@richardarmstrong9770]

Anyone who is told there dead wife isnt real will either start screaming and yelling or will try and fight you. Sitting in awkward silence and storming out not crying isnt a normal reaction to righteous indignation

[@richle905]

Is that how you reacted when this extremely hard to imagine scenario occurred to you?? Clown

[@richardarmstrong9770]

@richle905 Kiss my ass troll

[@joshuaramirez5399]

Anyone notice at 1:06 his blood vessel under his eye moves after the faker says "I have"

[@potatoplayz2436]

Great spot

[@zuxx00]

1:05 I love that Mike's head just locked-on to the guy when he heard him talk. He was like: "This f*cking guy again."

[@badabingmike]

She wanted to go to Cuba BUT Mike knew Americans cannot travel to Cuba because of the embargo 👍🏼

[@TheNeonRabbit]

Watching the little micro-aggressions slowly building, a tiny facial twitch, the jaw movements, the eyes moving to an empty space, the quickening breathing... Jonathan Banks is a fucking genius.

[@bathroomsexmurder]

'micro aggressions' wtf u talking about

[@slackingstacker]

This scene was cathartic, I've known a few people throughout my life who have told lies similar to this

[@Apolitically-Correct]

We need a spin-off show of Mike living his best life in Belize

[@GordiansKnotHere]

"He wanted me to talk...I talked..." I guess it's better than being the "One who knocks..."

[@josephbingham1255]

2:44 Tamara Tunie. Her best quote she will always be remembered for "Hell, he can smell us." The Devil's Advocate.

[@stevenpeeven3169]

The guy walked out, created an imaginary friend and started underground boxing clubs

[@SelectCircle]

And then Mike showed up.

[@branflakes12341]

Mikes breathing keeps getting faster and faster

[@cuzned1375]

You wanted me to talk. I talked.

[@Mew_Master]

Mike figured it out? Mike??? This is a new low. Yeah, this one hurts.

[@Goose21995]

Going to meetings like this in real life sucks so much. Theres always someone who literally takes it to the max and has to have all attention on them. They get there early, make a day of it, probably cry and soend the entire session focused on them. And they do it every single day. Thats why going to these things is pointless.

[@conorwellman8592]

1:38 Anita knew exactly what was about to happen.

[@JasonPruett]

never saw this scene ty. guy did such a good job in this character turned out great

[@xyos7647]

It is from the serie better call Saul, which happen before breaking bad (but was released after).

[@ninjaguyYT]

2:00 "YEAH?" (click) why.

[@pirobot668beta]

Mike is a natural born investigator. He was picking up the not-so-subtle clues that everyone else was actively dismissing. Lies told in group therapy happens all the time...a good facilitator knows to call the liar out privately.

[@robmarth2226]

He will always be Kevin, Captain Holt's husband to me LOL

[@Easy-Eight]

I used to attend a bible study at my church. One of the church employees had a study on a chapter. He asked me what I thought. I begged him not to ask me. He kept on pressing. I gave him an answer... it was not the "canned" answer he was expecting. I bluntly told that particular chapter didn't translate well and Martin Luther was on record on wanting to leave it out of the Bible (all modern bible translations use Luther's source material from the 16th century). We had neither the expertise nor wisdom to interpret its meaning. After the next Sunday service the Pastor expressed dismay over my attitude.

[@theamazingmeh1759]

Sorry that happened :(

[@LilyLinko]

There are translations that use the Vulgate and the LXX that don't use the Masoretic text that Luther used.

[@Easy-Eight]

@@theamazingmeh1759 That's from a fair number of years past. I'm an old Lutheran, it's sort of hard to explain to people. The 16th Century order of worship was unchanged until the 20th Century when it was translated to English (Blame WWI). The English version of the order of worship was unchanged until the leftist took over in 1973. I'm at the point of my life where I'd drive 100 miles just to attend a traditional Lutheran service on Sunday.

[@LOTW1]

Ever heard of the Dead Sea scrolls and the Septuagint? You are entitled to an opinion. But it sounds like you were an asshole about it. You could have given your opinion in form of a question. For example, in regard to this passage I am a bit concern about its translation. It is my understanding this passage didn't translate well and Martin Luther was on record, saying etc, and etc. How do I know the bible was properly translated and which bible is the oldest? Sometimes we are not wrong about our opinions, but we are wrong in the way we express them and the way we behave. You could be right, but being right doesn't give you a pass to misbehave if that is what you did.

[@peterschorn1]

Your pastor is a Pharisee.

[@TtotheCizzel]

Mike didnt want to he seen, heard or understood. He wanted revenge for his son. Even when he got it he still wanted it

[@trashacct1198]

met the actor who plays the liar. he is really nice. Social butterfly type guy he looks exactly like he does on TV lol

[@PulloffPrime]

He could have just said, "what happened to Cuba?" And interrogated hin into a corner. That way he'd look like a hero instead of an asshole.

[@hypnotised-clover]

You think Mike is the bad guy here? Interesting.

[@thomasbyrne4116]

​@hypnotised-clover if he had left it without going after the whole group about "their sad little stories" it probably would have been received better. Calling out someone for being full of shit isn't bad, but following it with "and you're all stupid for not noticing" makes it not great lol

[@hypnotised-clover]

@@thomasbyrne4116 His point is "stop feeding off eachother with your negativity, it makes you oblivious to reality".

[@lukeluebrecht1137]

God this scene was so cold i love it

[@actioncom2748]

Thanks for posting this. For some reason, KZbin Purged this scene from all channels.

[@MaquiladoraIII]

Yet another powerhouse scene from Kerry Condon and Jonathan Banks. It's all the subtle nuances that give the viewer a slight glimpse into the immense pain that both of them are feeling, and the things left unsaid between them.

[@SleepyAdam]

The beginning part reminds me a lot of "One day you'll realize you haven't thought about it, that's when you know you can move on." meaning he did eventually come to see Stacey's experience as a positive thing.

[@kitter_8]

cant believe johnathan banks was the therapy session faker

[@Nate_the_Nobody]

1:55 He wasn't lying

[@reallyhappenings5597]

People like this really exist, I sat through one last week. He wanted attention but probably needed therapy. Worst 30 years of alcoholic recovery I've ever witnessed, zero inner peace.

[@fragslap5229]

Which episode was this? I sure don't remember the scene.

[@AMD7027]

It was a TOWN Mike…Cuba, Australia!

[@kommisar.]

Love Mike's signs of getting more and more pissed off. Great acting from Jonathan Banks.

[@ilkka9385]

"All wrapped up in your sad little stories, feeding of from each other's misery." "I am Jack's throbbing sense of abandonment."

[@sammihaka2056]

Anita and Mike's Daughter-in-law nervously watch Mike, as he slowly hulks at the alleged Widower's fake testimony. Mike obviously just wanted an excuse to be kicked out of the Grieving Support Group without getting estranged by his Daughter-in-law. Similar to Walter, Mike chose to misdirect his priorities to avoid confronting his personal trauma. Instead of seeking psychiatric therapy to process the personal guilt he claimed for his Son's death, Mike instead turned to organised crime to misdirect his anger and seek penance, hoping the gambling thrill and the risk of death would distract him from the soul-crushing guilt. However, also similar to Walter, Mike, who was clearly talented enough to profit from earning an honest wage, ethically justified his risk-seeking behaviour by convincing himself that he was committing crimes to earn for his family.

[@danielmccarthy3672]

Man , Mike sure knows how to relax from a stressful job.

[@ProjectDevilEye]

Mike carried this series hard, amazing character and actor.

[@genocide9183]

I can't believe Mike Ross is the Breaking Bad Butcher

[@jacklambert1521]

Mike: "You people think you know misery, huh? Well, let me tell you something about misery."

[@BillyMcMorran]

I worked at groups like this for years. They naturally will attract narcissists who make up lies for attention. This is accepted. You will find narcissists at mental health meetings, Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, gambling, etc. You can spot them a mile off. However, we do not challenge these people because we do not want to cause any hostility within the group. People there are suffering, they have gone for help, they don’t need more stress put upon them by someone in the group. Narcissists are mentally ill, you accept that, they are not bad people.

[@Nexidal]

Mentally ill people can be bad people, and most narcissists are bad people. How you act, the decisions you make, and the behaviors you exhibit are all ultimately your responsibility regardless of mental illness. I *hate* when people use mental illness to excuse terrible behavior. It invalidates the struggles people like me go through every day to be better than our conditions would have us be. Can this bad behavior be understood to be influenced by mental illness? Certainly, but that does *not* excuse it. Those who fail to be good people don't deserve a pass on all the damage they cause.

[@Carson_Van_McUber]

I forgot how great this scene is. What great story telling in such a four minute span.

[@funnyman8161]

This guy was on the Good Place so it makes this scene bizarre

[@JBrander]

"Hey Henry.. she even really exist?"

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

There is a balance between allowing the past/losses to come into the present by talking about it, accepting it, grieving versus holding onto the past like a security blanket, refusing to leave it. The latter is just as unhelpful/unhealthy as is refusing the past, refusing to do the loss work, refusing to talk about it. That said, different people process losses in their own time. Allowing others their own experience, supporting them takes wisdom, but it also can be hard, especially when you are dealing with your own loss. But losses must be processed which means feeling the feelings, but then also moving past the pain after doing the work.

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

P.s. Like Mike, from a young age I could see through other's facades, see through to the truth. I learned that people don't like that, being called out on their BS, asking me to endorse their BS. Mike (the character) became a cop. I became a therapist. Insofar as the scene above, the therapist should have followed with, "Ok Mike, you have told us something about someone else, and you were very astute. Now tell us something about you with that same insight." It was a perfect therapeutic opportunity for mike and the group as a whole.

[@mr.martyr8573]

The clock ticking in the background….man, Vince Gilligan is a god damn genius.

[@deecook8393]

I love Mike!! He's the best!

[@justinisorange]

Thank god - I was looking everywhere for this scene

[@ithink3979]

This is why safe spaces will never solve anything.

[@ja3482]

Mike immediately giving him the stinkeye as soon as he starts speaking.

[@jusjay3834]

I needed this

[@theskeletomgamer8292]

the clock in the back is just such a cherry on top for this scene

[@Widderic]

One of the best scenes.

[@genocide9183]

"You dont seem to understand. This group therapy isnt yours to conquer"

[@fraiseweb4381]

Mike is a hell of an investigator.

[@marcroze7960]

When Stacy was talking about forgetting about Matty Mike was already in a great amount of rage. It's kinda funny tho, he was just sitting there mad and holding it wo saying a word. Also terrific acting.

[@megavore97]

1:44 you can see Mike’s disbelief suddenly become too much to keep inside.