Mike D'Antoni's system is great for regular season, not playoffs - Stephen A. | First Take

[@wholelottagangshit2952]

Kobe himself did what Harden is doing he knows what he’s talking about anybody who disagrees with it is tripping.

[@Cochise954]

That's the reason he's a 5 time champ.

[@flashfive12]

Kobe is not the be all end all learn to think for yourself instead of being a sheep. Don't get me wrong I've always said Harden and Kobe are so similar and I also agree with his argument but the issue is just agreeing with Kobe because he's Kobe. Especially since they were 1 shot away from doing it last year. Had they won that game they would've gotten a ring.

[@wholelottagangshit2952]

LurKing The Top 8 highest Usage rates in NBA history have never won more than 1 playoff series. So there’s 7 other people that can tell you the same thing. James is 3rd on that list rn

[@leek7320]

fax hero ball doesnt win rings

[@perfectpenguin87]

If harden did what Kobe did he would have a couple rings by now . Your logic doesn’t make any sense

[@JHatch65]

Max loves to say "Houston would have won if CP-2 played..." Dude, using the same logic, the Warriors would have won in 5 if Igoudala didn't get hurt in the game 3 beat-down (Warriors won by 41!), so the point you are trying to make is moot.

[@theoperry3236]

JHatch65 dude Iggy was the reason 4 all stars needed to beat harden and cp3 in 5 cmon

[@august6281]

@@theoperry3236 he was right though iggy bring more than stats like how the rockets drop in defense just losing Ariza

[@livingstonhorton1096]

Iso iso free throw free throw... Painful to watch...

[@Jrz9x]

Then stop watching

[@theballereli]

facts. And dont forget chuck up 70 3's

[@jakenaruto2315]

J.R. Z right

[@PowGetRekt]

@@Jrz9x no1 does lol.

[@StayTru101]

That’s not all he does hating ass pussy

[@DailyVikings]

They were 1 game away from the finals, playing against the greatest team ever.. Steph/Klay/KD/Draymond all in their primes.

[@StayTru101]

YaBettsBelieve EXACTLY AND ARE GETTING CRUCIFIED BY HATERS

[@trashboy7123]

But they didn’t capitalize... 0-27 from three stop it

[@Mikel424]

Yeah but it’s like us in 2016. Best record but we didn’t win.

[@jordan12118]

YaBettsBelieve L for including Draymond 😂

[@nmpiars8936]

only matters if you win

[@agrey832]

I remember watching the Phoenix Suns back in the late 90's. They had a stacked team with Steve Nash at the point. They were AVERAGING 120pts a game during the regular season, but couldn't make it past the 1st round of the playoffs EACH SEASON. Kobe is 100% correct in his statement. Let's not pretend he's not also speaking from experience 🤔

[@wezob4569]

Is it even fair to even call that a system? Harden Iso every possession? All D'Antoni has to do is manage his minutes. That aint really a system? Hell naw.

[@wezob4569]

@freshcaller my point is it's not a system whether it works against these lesser playoff teams or not. They ain't winning any chips with that. So harden could do whatever in the regular season. He's going home in the second round.

[@deonhollins3448]

Wez OB yeah. With this rockets team, they’ll be lucky to get that far. Without garden they’re trash.

[@AYouTubeUser1]

Wez OB people are really saying they can’t win a chip this way, and were 1 game away from competing in the finals against an easier opponent. Mad disrespectful

[@kevinmitchell386]

The rockets would have won with cp3 healthy? isn't stephen A the one who says the warriors would of won the championship if draymond hadn't gotten suspended, i guess we'll never know.

[@kevinmitchell386]

@Mugenno way iggy was more important than chris paul and if the warriors couldn't beat the rockets without iggy than they weren't as good as everyone thought they were. When two mvps, the 2nd greatest shooter in NBA history and the defensive player of the year arent enough 😂😂😂😂

[@aliaziz8230]

@Mugen rockets were also missing mbah a moute

[@ShiromanSingh]

@@kevinmitchell386 Then why are you still upset about the loss when the Rockets should have lost?

[@kevinmitchell386]

Mugen ok and Paul was the rockets 2nd best player it still doesn’t add up 😭 and you warriors calling me a moron is funny as hell. It’s ok y’all won’t be a super team forever

[@khaleeduddin]

Im pretty sure when both teams were fully healthy in game 3,the rockets were blown out by 41pts

[@changeit6317]

kobe -avg :35ppg lost in the 1st round , MJ -avg :37ppg lost in the 2nd round so kobe knows what he's talking about

[@stanleyh3899]

2019 NBA Finals: Raptors vs Warriors

[@fitlikeford9446]

Max Kellerman is a great "What If" debater. Top 3 all-time.

[@TheVCudi]

For-D Uchiha lmao so true. “What if” Brady retired 2 years ago

[@edwincollins5847]

What “if” Brady reached the cliff this coming season?

[@CoutureThug]

What if max Kellerman had some basketball knowledge, he would be even higher on that list

[@ericeas123]

Nah this man is UNDEFEATED, NEVA LOST

[@juggrixhzo1134]

HOLY SHIT MAX WE WATCHED THE ROCKETS WARRIORS SERIES STOP EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED😤🤣

[@MrBestard]

Harden is not a great defender, he fits in Mike 's system perfectly. I think they are missing a high mobility forward who can score.

[@Smallvillefreak]

Max: “He can win playing this style, IF they lower the usage rate.” High usage rate is the style.

[@ryanrock02]

I'm a rockets fan. even if D'Antoni changes how the rockets play during playoffs they have to beat an all star team which is the Warriors. they need a miracle to do that!

[@MichaelLandSeasandAir]

Could anyone imagine what it would be like if Mike D' Antoni coached the Warriors.

[@icemangg4075]

Well I mean once they get Capela back and CP3 at least 75% Harden can dial it back and nobody outside of Denver can really challenge them till the WCF.

[@Northsyde21]

The Thunder and Lakers can challenge them too tbh

[@Jrz9x]

@@Northsyde21 lmao okc is a 1st round exit and the Lakers 😂 😂 just because they got LeBron nah the Lakers are to young and if they got A.D they will have no depth

[@leek7320]

@@Jrz9x OKC aint a 1st round exit y'all gotta stop thinking this is the same team from last year OKC has the #1 ranked defense and PG and Russ are ballin rn they can go far in the playoffs

[@Jrz9x]

@@leek7320 they don't got enough shoting they may have the 1 ranked d. If they get more shoting beside PG 13 they can make it pass the 1st round

[@fitlikeford9446]

@@Jrz9x depth*

[@notoriousmaclife6597]

This is the 10000000 time max talks about cp3 getting hurt before game 7

[@MDBell111]

Is Max EVER gonna let go of last year’s Western Conference Finals 😤😤

[@SSJRome]

They’ve kinda played the same way the whole time. It’s just more plain to see now that cp3 was out for a long time and capela had his injury . And this postseason is gonna be the SAME OLD STORY

[@pctx1030]

If D'Antoni was the head coach of the Celtics with Billy Donovan as the defensive coach, Celtics would hands down have the best record in the NBA.

[@willburdbath9273]

I LOVE YOU STEPHEN

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri markkanen is at home right now dining on the finest finnish cuisine

[@kevinmitchell386]

Not great for the playoffs? Didn't the rockets make it to the conference finals and a game 7 against the warriors. I think Mike's system works in the playoffs.

[@siranalysts8798]

kevin mitchell his system works in the playoffs but it doesn’t win championships.

[@wholelottagangshit2952]

It’s because he’s been apart of the great regular season teams with his system but hasn’t been to the finals because they fizzle out in the playoffs. So, anytime he loses in the playoffs their gonna point to his system.

[@leek7320]

they had good defense last year and better offense D'Antoni's system will not bring Houston a championship

[@Marko-hx7be]

If the reason the rockets lost and missed so many shots in game 7 was because they didn't have cp3 they have to change something. You can't just forget how to shoot because of 1 player.

[@Marko-hx7be]

These rockets are just a worse version of their team last year. They can't win now

[@titankiller5287]

I’m one of those people that say it’s not hard to average 20-24 when you’re on a bad team and have a high percentage use, but Harden is averaging 12 more points than that and still winning, this man is doing things I thought I’d never see, when the room is just you and Wilt Chamberlain, than you’ve made it

[@ksanchez8095]

Putting this flop artist and chamberlain in the same sentence smh chamberlain was a one of a kind nature force. This guy is the best actor to ever step on a basketball court

[@titankiller5287]

Kemuel Sanchez It’s not me putting them in the same sentence, it’s Harden’s numbers dog, I’m just here to point that out, he’s in rarified air right now

[@justinjohnson9706]

The know what the Doing. The will Change up the offense for the Playoffs

[@tshokoboi]

The disrespect towards Iggy is just blasphemous! He was out for a good portion of that series and we all know he’s a difference maker on that roster

[@8-BALL938]

Max always bitter about the 7 game series against the Rockets and Warriors, because he picked the Rockets to win. So, he's constantly saying they would have won if CP3 didn't go down in game 5. But, what about Iguodala , He went down in game 3, and I can say, "the Rockets would have lost in 5 games, if Iguodala didn't get hurt with knee to knee contact with Harden"... Point is, stop with the, salty rendition of shit that can't be proven. Get over it Max. I'm getting bored with it!

[@RD-ub8ck]

SJK The Mechanic your sad to bitch bout a teams 6 best player being out an excuse to lose

[@Marko-hx7be]

@@RD-ub8ck He's not bitching tho. He just mentioned, Max is bitching about the Rockets.

[@ajy1980]

stephen nailed it.

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri >cousins

[@Humble-tt4vw]

They said this type of shit last year come playoff we went to game 7 in the WCF they even said the Warriors would be us in 5 games like smh

[@danielpagan2848]

Mike D'antoni never gets his due from tv critics. He is a multiple champion in Europe and every coach in the NBA has pretty much copied his Phoenix system. Respect.

[@bobbib5779]

I think the moment a playoff spot is secure you shut Harden down to 10-15 mins a game until the playoff. this way by playoff time you have a bunch of playoff ready (at least minutes wise) players and Harden rested enough to make a push in the playoffs

[@demondayzzz]

What is this revisionist history about Steve Kerr in Phoenix? The guy traded Shawn Marion for a dying Shaq and hired Terry Porter. Kerr was the right coach at the right time for GS but he was an atrocity in Phoenix Suns history

[@willburdbath9273]

I LOVE YOU MAX

[@absolut6ix187]

Same with the Bucks

[@DeeMzLGI]

THANK YOU STEPHEN A. !!!!! I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING

[@SuperNiceBlackGuy]

But they were a game away from the finals vs the most stacked them of all time🤷🏽‍♂️😏

[@jso19801980]

I was waiting for Stephen A to bring up Mark Jackson

[@707romo707]

“...particularly when your vision is the post season.” That’s the thing, Harden said it himself, he’s focusing on getting MVP not on the post season.

[@lordfinesse4173]

Only reason I don't agree with this is because his system was working last year and they had an injury to a key player in Chris Paul. I think if Paul stays healthy they make the finals and possibly have a ring

[@RDStudio4]

Im just waiting for Boogie to punch Harden in the face

[@anthonyhamilton1136]

I understand Max's argument about the Rockets and Warriors playing in a couple of series throughout feature seasons, that the Rockets would have won a a few. I mean, it almost happened last year, barring that anomaly of a shooting night. What's other takes on this?

[@kennethevans4056]

Max has a serious god complex he actually thinks he's all knowing

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri legend > KD

[@stevevisa6962]

Ellen Degeneres > Lauri the Assasin. 😝

[@macarongblack3694]

only if Ive gotten a penny everytime max brings up the what ifs with Rockets last season

[@jean-yannbidi8884]

He is always talking about the fact that CP3 got hurt late in the serie and about that Game 7 in Houston but seems to forgot that the only reason that game 7 happened in that so called Toyota Center is because 3 of the 5 starting players in GSW were injured during the regular season and that’s the only reason why the Warriors didn’t end up first. But CP3 or nah the Warriors would have win, no doubt about it.

[@OscarBenben]

You can’t win in playoffs playing iso ball 90% of the time, playoffs is team basketball

[@coreycuffee8989]

If I was on the show and Steven A Talked To me how he talks to Max, we would’ve been fought

[@philanimthembu93]

LOL! I guess Max Kellerman will never let go of this "single digit" nonsense!

[@jacksury2616]

Yep

[@LocalCityKid]

Sometimes I wonder what if OKC paid Harden the extra 5 mill to keep him from leaving. Just imagine, Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Harden and Adams. How many championships would they have won together?

[@christopherorick2110]

They were 1 injury away from the finals. How is that not working?

[@taylorandrus5570]

So when harden scores 44 nearly every game and amazes us, Espn: “bad basketball, it doesn’t win championships, harden sucks”. Espn when harden plays bad: “harden sucks” bro stop this “championship” bs. We went to game 7 against them last year, harden is having the best year of his career and nearly all time. We also got experience bro. I think we fine

[@gpat4dozen90]

Kobe Bryant should be the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers

[@joeswanson3409]

1 like for every free-throw harden will be getting for the remainder of the season

[@aliaziz8230]

still leads the nba in scoring if you take away free throws

[@hithere2855]

joe swanson nah this one game

[@htrain4139]

Hes acullaly had several 50 point games with many free throws lately hes had 4 blocks 6 steals 12 rebounds and 43 points in a win the other night hes taking shots nobody can stop what's to hate hes been playing defense this is retarded

[@Daniel-rd2wh]

Ali Aziz doesnt rlly matter

[@MindsetMastery-j1u]

Fellas, we're gonna need more likes.

[@jonquist7089]

Sometimes while I hear SAS talk, I'm surprised I'm understanding the words

[@WBsteve]

1:30 "First of all they wouldn't have won the finals last year, because I picked Golden State to win the 7 games" Stephen A. So if Steven A. picks your team to win, they gonna win. You heard it here first folks.

[@richyrich7330]

*player goes for a fastbreak* *player under D'Antoni system goes for a foul* *mike summoms player to him* Mike:we dont do that here Me: that would explain the lack of defense from harden

[@meefee24]

Harden already said when playoffs come they're switching it up

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri > Anthony davis

[@lorenzoperez8305]

omg you're everywhere I thought this was a meme but it's just you

[@jordan12118]

ever greatest 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri > porzingis

[@AnkitPatel-yi4lm]

I just want to point out the fact that Stephen A. said that GS would've won that series no matter what and there's no evidence to the contrary. And there is also people in the comments talking about how Max is all hypothetical. These are the same people that say, every single time the 2016 finals are mentioned, that GS would've won if Draymond never went down. It just shows the hypocrisy.

[@stevevisa6962]

Remember all those talented Nash led Suns teams? Simply got outcoached/out-skemed in late playoff rounds by Pop, Phil and company..... 😝

[@mwebtex]

I don’t understand the argument. Two teams make it to the finals every year. Most coaches in the league have never been to the conference finals much less the league finals. D’Antoni has had consistent success making it to the later rounds of the playoffs for several of the years he has coached. His “system” was a few made 3 ‘s or a Chris Paul injury away from beating one of the better teams in the history of the league so that doesn’t count for something? Seems to me that his system has had quite a bit of success considering. Everyone wants to be the champ but there’s only one and a lot of that depends on being in the right place at the right time. An injury here or there, a key pick up before the trade deadline, who you end up playing in the playoffs and their injury situation, etc, are keys to winning it all. Most teams don’t get all the “keys” they need. Teams can’t force players to play for them (maybe in trades for a time) but especially in free agency or buyouts. D’Antoni’s system is not the problem it’s just the nature of basketball that is the issue.

[@potatomatop9326]

Lol harden plays dor the chinese national basketball team now

[@auc2.0]

*for

[@juansantana7041]

Kobe knows , he's a champ, a proven leader. I take this advice I've always left that way about harden, he left okc when they had kd, westbrook, harden. Just imagine those as big 3 could of been like warriors or better but egos get best of them. Kd was the most humble of all 3. Also cp3 aint no real leader he just jumps from team to team when he cant win. Look at all greats who stayed loyal to team and won....

[@benlakh8525]

D'antoni is the Russel Westbrook of coaching. even if this year Russ moderate himself and played well with other, that's not have been the case for D'Antoni who strugling and have only one way of thinking, shoots quick, reflexions for later.

[@DrWNoLs]

Max doesn't get that "this style" means that super high usage rate. That's the point. Making it more moderate like last year isn't keeping this same approach the past 10-15 games. He's just getting pedantic for the sake of it as this point.

[@danielreid8015]

What’s going on with the Chinese on the rockets jerseys?

[@JavierRodriguez17565]

It’s for the Chinese New Year

[@1972OGTony]

The Rockets are fan favorites in China 🇨🇳 it’s a lot of money there.

[@beachlife4235]

Yao ming

[@InvestBetter.]

The Rockets real problem is they have bet their farm on Harden, who has proven to not be as gifted scoring in the playoffs as he is in the regular season. Teams can game plan against him in a 7-game series more effectively, and he doesn't play big in Game 7s. And CP3 has a history of spitting the bit in the playoffs. he doesn't play big in the clutch either. He's no Isiah Thomas at the end of series, and now he's old on top of it.

[@VoiceOfValidity]

But nobody other than D'Antoni forced a 4 all stars warriors team to 7 games.

[@Tayo39]

wasnt Kerr the GM of that Suns team (edit:::never mmind)? anyway, D'Antoni is the Bill Walsh of hoop

[@litty5133]

I mean they took warriors to 7 last year and were one cp3 injury away from a championship

[@DTheDon305]

That travel doe @ 0:38

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri is his dad

[@jonahscarlett9611]

1:00 is the only smart thing Max said

[@ahsanaziz3594]

Wasn’t D’antoni up 3-2 with his style against the warriors? I’m not sure with the way people talk about the “style”

[@tamayo3861]

Wtf is Max even saying... Replace him with Will Caín!!!!!

[@kennykenny8414]

How can’t they, and they almost beat them last year in 7

[@chrisvas65]

I wish molly would stop interrupting

[@superphi]

So is Stephen A saying harden wouldn’t be putting up these stats without d’antoni? Or is he still giving all the credit to harden and shitting on d’antoni

[@MrDicus1]

What are we arguing about when Harden agreed with him?

[@ciscoquick1942]

these media pundants are getting on my nerve. ever since lebron james goat conversation the sports conciousness has given out to the idea of degrees of losing. to me losing has meaning if you start winning in a dominating fashion after it. the houston rockets did not win after putting a team together, having the best regular season in the nba, and this year there is not a sign of them being title contenders. i am outstanded to the length kellerman goes to defend his takes. i mean...the guy goaes as far as contradicting himself to try validating his points of view.

[@aliaziz8230]

they're taking kobes quote out of context. And dantonis offense is proven in the playoffs. They were close to winning the 2007 series against the spurs and the winner of that series was going to win the championship since dallas was eliminated in the first round. And last year they were up 3-2 against the warriors.

[@aliaziz8230]

@T Tardif they lost by single digits without their second best player in game 7 against one of the best teams of all time with 4 all stars. Clearly mikes system is capable of winning in the playoffs, after all they were the clear second best team in the league and almost beat the warriors and were up 3-2 with cp3. And cp3 fixes that 3 point issue since he still shoots plenty of mid range shots and he's the one who controlled the ball for the rockets in the second half of games in the series. And their system is the only reason it was a close series. It turned warriors into an iso team, which benefited houston with their switch everything defense.

[@erickcruzm.24]

Harden has never played D at the level Kobe did. 12 All NBA Defensive selections for the Mamba. You can't win rings as the best player if you don't D the opposition.

[@antoniokim8033]

All I have to say is Steve Nash and Amari Stoudemire. Rockets has no hope in the playoffs. I know Steve Nash and Stoudemire was a Suns but it’s the same coach Mike D’Antoni

[@Sain065]

As sas said so easy to defend in playoffs time .. keep doubling him and he will either pass or turn it over coz he wont get these ridiculous calls

[@lemar2122]

Kobe knows, he was a major ball hog Until he got Gasol, He couldn't win with that style. But it's really not the style, it's the Warriors having 5 allstars.

[@CustomStyleCajunTurkey]

Kobe didn't have help until Gasol... What was he supposed to do?

[@chuckchuk5157]

WhT he gonna do pass it to chris mihm or kwame brown?.......

[@Marko-hx7be]

D'antoni hasn't played against the warriors his entire career. His system doesn't work when another team goes all out in the playoffs. If you want to win the title the entire team has to beat the other and if all a team has to do to beat the his team is beat one player that always has the ball they'll do that.

[@chrismathgenius]

There's a reason why Mike D'Antoni was never able to get to the Finals with the Suns despite how talented they were. He doesn't coach defense.

[@crispianchealuks2024]

So that's the key to stopping harden in a 7 game series? Don't stop him at all, let him wear himself out day in, day out, let him drop his 60 every night, stop the other guys and increase the pace and pile on the wear and tear until finally his legs are spent and he bricks every shot he takes?

[@StayTru101]

Crispian Chealuks won’t work. Harden has gotten way better and constantly plays in the offseason when the reg season is over with. He’s not gonna get tired

[@crispianchealuks2024]

@@StayTru101 hopefully or it will be a quick exit for the rockets

[@cruzada07]

Harden is scoring more points but he also facilitates

[@vanishing_girl]

the Rockets had one of the slowest paces in the league last year . . . how can you claim to be a basketball analyst and not recognize how different Houston plays from D'Antoni's Phoenix teams

[@ruchpat1]

Rest In Peace Kobe Bryant.

[@CheapGuitarsAndMore]

Bullshit headline. They were going to win last year with this system. Its not only DAntoni, its Dantoni/Bzdelik combo. And last year they had the right supporting cast. But CP3's injury cost them a championship. Then going on the worst shooting slump in history at the wrong time in game 7 put the nail in the coffin. It was a 1 year window in my opinion. I dont know if they can make it that far again with this different cast. Dumb management to not do everything to keep the same squad.

[@alfredmclaurin8592]

I think Molly is learning to keep her mouth shut very good segment keep it up Molly

[@nyteowl8069]

*Anthony Davis or Klay is missing from D'Antoni's system*

[@nyteowl8069]

I like how u think Im gonna listen to you

[@evergreatest8909]

If lauri markkanen was on the rockets they'd win a ring

[@lippothegoat6349]

ever greatest if every one is healthy yeah they’ll have a good chance

[@fitlikeford9446]

If KD and Klay was on the Rockets they'd win ring.

[@Mikel424]

Umm who?😂we haven’t heard anything about him all season man and his team just stinks

[@damilareajani5747]

ever greatest if lebron and kd went to Houston they would win a ring

[@wavegod5797]

@@Mikel424 I've heard a lot about Lauri this season. Please don't project your ignorance on everyone

[@evergreatest8909]

Lauri more efficient

[@stevevisa6962]

Naked pic of Lauri on your bedroom walls.. Lmao

[@scalla24]

Since KD joined Golden State, what team took them to 7 games?

[@sameert8812]

They did play behind him lmao