Mike Griffith joins Paul Finebaum to discuss the "national outcry" on UGA and the CFP rankings

[@AVAPopCulture]

who thought it was a good idea to have sitting/active ADs from any school on the committee???? dumbest thing ever

[@johndodd6843]

The agenda of the committee is to get an All Big 10 semifinal if they can

[@jasonbritt2497]

They want to stack one side of the bracket with Big10 and the other SEC so that the upper tier Big10 doesn’t have to face SEC until they get to the Natty. Meanwhile the SEC will eliminate themselves when the 2 actual best teams would have come from that conference. They are just trying to ensure the Big10 has a seat in the national championship to make them look like they are just as good as the SEC. The outlier here is TX and I feel like TX not only paid for their schedule this season but they are also paying for their ranking at 3 and payed their way in last season.

[@2bigbufords]

and Notre Dame

[@nicholasevans3433]

Haha!! Ain’t no way they can pull that off

[@timg5463]

Great job, Mike. Any complete moron does not believe Penn State or Indiana could beat any of the top four SEC teams.

[@Ben-xz2lf]

Penn State isn’t beating Tennessee.

[@blakefreeman3521]

Tennessee lost to a mediocre Arkansas team. Penn State would do fine against Tennessee

[@timg5463]

@ they suck on offense. The tight end needs to play qb and run every play.

[@kingsgambit7734]

Wouldn't bet on that. Both lost to those kinds of teams last season.

[@robert45tn]

​Alabama lost to Vandy so anyone can lose to anyone any Sat​@blakefreeman3521

[@Legio__X]

Well said Mike. You represent Georgia and the SEC very well 👏🏻

[@SilFord-o9f]

There is no way the B10 have the Top 4 out 5 teams in the country, The B10 is TERRIBLE THIS YEAR! its such a JOKE

[@richboii6597]

You think just because over half of an entire conference has 5 wins or less makes them terrible? I do too 🤣big10 is a joke

[@SilFord-o9f]

@richboii6597 CFB overall is just NOT GOOD this year, a lot of OVERHYPED, OVERRATED, OVERVALUED teams

[@richboii6597]

@@SilFord-o9f you’re 100% right. There’s no stand out elite teams. If Georgia and bama weren’t having an off year and Michigan was halfway decent then we wouldn’t even be talking about these big10 teams.

[@boroblueyes]

Televise the discussion,end of problem.

[@jeffpursley9875]

Ward Manuel said his eyeballs test they had to watch all the games and see who played well. . That is absolutely ridiculous .. Not everybody plays the same competition. He should be impeached..

[@ruelpile]

He’s the Chairman of the CFP Committee and the AD of Michigan. I wonder how all those Big 10 teams got to the top of the rankings? Miami is the one that completely baffles me. SMU has a better argument for being in the playoffs than Miami.

[@Boc68]

Everyone knows the SEC Is the best conference top to bottom in the country by far. big 10 is a joke every year

[@jmellyquarrels3068]

The story of America… appointed officials with zero accountability

[@ruelpile]

Having Texas at 3 when Georgia beat them in Texas by more than 2 touchdowns is ridiculous. There should not be such a big difference in the ranking or seeding between Texas and Georgia. And if Texas is so great at 3 why not give Georgia credit for beating them when compared to Alabama and Ole Miss??

[@renlynn27]

THIS!!!

[@GeraldMothershed]

Why do you guys keep trying to cannibalize Texas? You have a shit ton of other programs to go after, but its always Texas. What I keep hearing is that Alabama or Georgia might have more losses that, say, BYU, but they play in the SEC where every team is better than a BYU.... Sound familiar? Then Texas plays the exact same schedule as Tennessee, the only deviation is Texas travels to A&M, where Alabama played at Tennessee. The Texas schedule isn't "The easiest schedule since Tulane was in the SEC", like Finebaum reported Georgia as having said. It has been an all out smear against Texas. Texas is beating the SEC teams they by an average of 14 points. Is that impressive? It seems to be when Georgia or Ole Miss wants to jump Texas. The double standard is obvious. One last point. If you calculate the over win% of the opponents each SEC team will face this season. Ole Miss is the lowest at 53%, meaning they will face teams that are around .500... Texas and Tennessee face identical win% at 54%. A&M and Missouri, 56% ..... Georgia, 60% .... Georgia also beat the SEC team they faced by 9 points in average. The margin of victory was a metric point used to rank teams until 2008ish. It was removed to encourage sportsmanship, however it took away a teams ability to be recognized as being quality even when their competition isn't in the top 25. I say that the SEC needs to make up their mind. Is it the number of top 20 victories, which is what they slam Texas for, or is the level of competition? If Georgia can benefit by saying the SEC teams are just way better and that fact should be considered when ranking teams, then Texas should benefit from that too.

[@blakefreeman3521]

Georgia has 2 losses. Texas has the 1. How hard is that to understand?

[@creationandcompostteachthe485]

@@blakefreeman3521dude….

[@GeraldMothershed]

@@ruelpile Shouldn't we also consider Georgia's performance against common opponents with Texas. Sure, they beat Texas, then they went on to lose another game and came EXTREMELY close to losing two others. Texas plays three of the same opponents Georgia faced, two they've already played and Texas plays Kentucky this week. If Texas can beat Kentucky by more than one point, they will have beaten every common opponent by much wider margins than Georgia. Georgia beating Texas was aided by Ewers obviously experiencing mental and physical struggles. But over the course of the season, where the two can be measured against one another, Texas has outperformed Georgia. Georgia's good wins against Texas and Tennessee are tarnished a bit by barely beating Kentucky, Florida and MS State. Texas doubled the margin of victory against MS State and tripled the margin against Florida. Think about this, had Georgia lost to Texas, nearly lost to Florida and then they get beat soundly by Ole Miss, how do we view this team? Georgia is relying completely on that Texas win. The win against Tennessee wouldn't be nearly enough to save Georgia. Had Kentucky closed out Georgia then they'd be viewed very differently today. So, let's not act like Georgia can't be questioned. Lastly, Georgia played the most ranked teams, but they didn't face the hardest schedules. The combined win% of Georgia's opponents is 60%. MS State, Kentucky, and Oklahoma faced teams with an average win% of greater than 70%. Ole Miss faced the weakest at 53%. Texas and Tennessee at 54% and Texas A&M and Missouri at 56%. Let's acknowledge the teams that really had it tough this year.

[@jeffpursley9875]

Word manual sounds like every car salesman I ever went to talk to. Absolutely ridiculous word Salad !!

[@davida730]

Dude might still be angry UGA throttled Michigan in the semis in 2021.

[@glennvanzandt3011]

Mike absolutely nailed this situation. I mean you sir are correct. Thanks for having the courage to speak the truth.

[@uga83joe]

The committee needs to be transparent. This secrecy allows for rankings to look "cooked"

[@rustyrussell818]

"Look" cooked..... They ARE being cooked....

[@KingOfSummer]

They should use the conference champions and then use the old BCS computer formula to fill it out.

[@jayjones3711]

You're right! That's the same thing I've been saying for years!

[@thecasualatvguy617]

Miami, notre dame, penn state, and indiana are way over rated. If tiu lose at home to NIU you are not a playoff yeam

[@blakefreeman3521]

What if you lose at home to a terrible Kentucky team like Ole Miss did?

[@thecasualatvguy617]

@blakefreeman3521 Kentucky is way better than NIU lol. ND would have been better off losing to vandy

[@blakefreeman3521]

@@thecasualatvguy617 Ole Miss also lost to an overrated 4 loss LSU team

[@EarlyRiser71]

100% correct. These playoffs will be without the SEC in 2026 if it keeps going like this.

[@edwinjones-z5x]

The want woke results in the NATTY because the SEC has dominated the finals for too many years

[@billlong8385]

The SEC teams have a fourth non-conference game, usually a cupcake game, toward the end of the season (Georgia vs Massachusetts, Tennessee vs UTEP). Until everyone plays an equal number of non-conference games the strength of schedule discussion is tainted.

[@cameronmerrill_]

UGA played 10 P4 teams and actual good teams unlike ohio st, michigan, penn st, etc

[@mtnbums2000]

What are you even talking about?

[@my2penniez]

Mike Griffith is always interesting. I’m just glad Ga beat Tn cause it feels like the committee was biting at the bit to ouster Ga. But they couldn’t. In your face committee!😊

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

Hey it's the guy who said he didn't see us as real competition. 😂roll tide. All jokes aside I agree with my Georgia my brothers. The SEC is much better than everyone.

[@rickmsu1271]

There are two games left plus the conference championship games. The outcry talk is premature period! Good for your podcasts for sure:)

[@leaannholladay7537]

They need to make their voting decisions for each team public. Don't take their word for it, make them show it.

[@jacobgoins9634]

Let's not forget the big 10 is the only conference to represent goose eggs in the playoff era, not just 1 but 2 goose eggs with one of those 2 teams being the most glorified team in all of college football, never in my life have they earned their annual praise or top 3 ranking and I don't care what anyone says about it, Ohio St is trash.

[@terrywhite6269]

Any 6-year old can add up wins and losses. We don't need a committee to do that. I'd rather have a computer with published SOS formulas than what we have now. The biggest lie in college football is that "you are what your record says you are." Yet here we are with a committee that effectively says all wins and losses are the same! I hope Greg Sankey blows up this CFP agreement ASAP so that the best teams are fairly rewarded for their efforts.

[@nicholasevans3433]

We are upset about the CFP but the Coaches and AP poll have Penn State and Indiana ranked 3 and 4 as well

[@briandeaton36]

Griff ftw

[@SilFord-o9f]

To all of the B10 clan, PLEASE STOP IT, THE B10 STINKS! You can tell a B10 guy is running this thing with Indiana & Penn St high up qith they have done NOTHING! WARD MANUEL = MICHIGAN GUY B10 bias for a crappy league

[@dcxxxx]

Keep ------>😭

[@Mannyfreshkidd66]

Exactly and Alabama and UGA almost never lose on neutral field.

[@randyposs6281]

Unless they play each other

[@LeeH-c8g]

Dont think the committee likes Kirby saying he has no idea what they are looking for. But he's right. Schedule strength should matter. Big 10 with 4 of top 5 is a total joke. Texas at 3 is a joke as well. Who have they beaten?

[@David-nx2vm]

SEC flip-flops are interesting. In years when the top of the SEC is unbeaten, they say the record should matter most. This year, when the top of the SEC has multiple losses, they say SOS should matter most. What metric will they promote next year, best weather at kickoff?

[@justinairin1]

I understand that why people think it’s ridiculous the way they rank teams but at the same time I’m happy the dawgs have a path to the national championship game,if it were like before we would already be out,so I don’t know why people are so upset,at least with the new format we still have a shot at winning the whole damn thing

[@timmyteaching]

Send in the Feds!

[@declineofthewest.]

DEI is ruing everything

[@nicholasevans3433]

Even if teams can’t control who they play or how good certain teams on the schedule might end up being, it doesn’t mean you still don’t give credit to the teams that end up having to play a more difficult schedule

[@billlong8385]

Non-SEC team control 25% of their schedule (three non-conf games). SEC team control 33% of their schedule (four non-conf games).

[@carter3947]

The CFP committee is doing the exact opposite of what they did last year. FSU wishes they got this committee

[@LivelyChap]

They keep this up they’ll find out.

[@JojoQuik]

When an 9 or 10 seed wins the Natty the rankings will look pretty stupid.

[@stdan3746]

It's so simple, yet we make it so difficult by using BIG words out of Webster's dictionary and allowing all these platforms to weigh in on who, what, when, where, and how college football should be, especially the playoffs. All you have to do is open the dictionary and find the word "GREED", and every member of the CFP committee picture will be stamped by the word. All you have to do is follow the money. Anything that goes on "behind closed doors" is not legit, it's "secretive", it's "we have the power, the say so and no one can do anything about it. Oh wait, the TV networks are standing in the corners of the room too clearing their throats when the "common sense" of who, what, where, how, and why starts speaking and is quickly shut down. Bottom line is they, the CFP committee, have been instructed to fanagle the list to sway towards more of the Big 10 because the SEC has dominated all these years and IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. Michigan got it started last year and why? What was in the news, what had everyone's attention? - (THE CHEATING). YOU WERE GLUED TO YOUR TV DURING THE NC GAME WATCHING TO SEE IF MICHIGAN CHEATED!!!! So, if you keep controversy going that's what will draw more viewers. Best way to sum it up - as a kid you thought wrestling was real!!!! And now you learn the physicality part is real, they train, they sweat, they get injured------BUT THE OUTCOME IS SCRIPTED SO AS TO KEEP THE AUDIENCE ENGAGED, INTRIGUED, TALKING, FIRED UP!!! WHAT WILL PUT PEOPLE IN THE SEATS, AND LASTLY---------HOW MUCH $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ CAN I (ESPN - THE MOTHERSHIP) GET SO I CAN HAVE ALL THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!! AND IT'S OCCURRING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US BY HOW THEY HAVE RANKED TEAMS IN THE CFP - THE EVIDENCE IS RIGHT THERE!!!!!!! SMH!!!! AGAIN, SO SIMPLE.....LIKE A KID GETTING CAUGHT WITH HIS HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR, THEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN AS TO WHY AND THE KID STARTS TELLING HIS SIDE AND HAS ALL THESE REASONS - SOUND FAMILIAR? CFP COMMITTEE MEMBERS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE RANKINGS BASED OFF OF STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE, OH WAIT, STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE IS NOT WEIGHTED, OH WAIT, THIS WEEK IT IS, OH WAIT, NOW IT'S NOT!!!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO SEE????? BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF $$$$$$$$$$$$ AND YES, WE WILL CONTINUE PACKING THE STADIUMS ON SATURDAYS!!!!!!!! ALL IS GOOD :)

[@kevinsouthall4444]

Saban is a Northern guy he knows weather from playing in the Mac and coaching at MSU.Saban,"if it hits right and Sun Belt teams get a game at OSU or PSU or the upper MW w 15 chill factor and wind,they will have over come something they've never seen before."the King knows 😮😮😮😮

[@GregoryBradley-v3t]

We’re OK this is just a play spot for the playoffs. Just get your home-field advantage and keep winning. Nothing else matters none of these records matters it’s becoming an NFL week. Welcome baby.

[@bstrhn84]

A team not making their conference championship shouldn’t be ranked higher than 10 period.

[@billlong8385]

A team may be in a position to where a trip to a conference final may not be a good thing, especially if they have the same record. Why risk another loss?

[@bstrhn84]

@ you gotta beat the best to be the best

[@edwinjones-z5x]

Neither was Texas last year one of the best teams last year. 12 -O Georgia lost the SEC championship to an 11 -1 Alabama I believe. Alabama got in. A 10-2 Texas beat a 9-3 Oklahoma State and won the Big 12 championship and Texas got in over Georgia. I may be wrong on my numbers but that is my memory on last year.

[@randyposs6281]

Texas went 11-1 didn't they?....and beat bama

[@timevans4735]

It won't matter when Georgia and Alabama play for the championship...

[@mtnbums2000]

The SEC won’t put up with this nonsense much longer.

[@BarryBailey-sb6qo]

So UGA plays UMASS Saturday . If they were currently undefeated and lost to UMass as Notre Dame lost to NIU, Would UGA be ranked #6?

[@paulsammon538]

If these SEC teams want to be ranked higher then don't have two losses. The SEC is weaker than in other years and there is no standout team. No Stetson Bennet Bulldogs, no Joe Burrow Tigers. It's more like the pac 12 was in the last few years. Makes for really good games but hurts the team's rankings just like it did the pac 12

[@allabouthewaves4354]

It kills me how Ohio State fans are trying to defend their weak conference when they have been the only legit team in that conference for majority of the 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s. Without Ohio State, that conference would be a JOKE. Even knowledgeable SEC have admitted them and prime Clemson would be the only ones to annually win 10 or more games with a SEC schedule.

[@allabouthewaves4354]

You even have some Ohio State fans who want to fill up their non con with Power 4 opponents because their Big 10 schedule is WEAK.

[@jay_shipes]

💯 FTMF

[@dcxxxx]

PSU has a top 25 win against Illinois, stupid!

[@sammie4092]

Illinois is terrible play the toughest schedule hin country. Which Georgia is.

[@dcxxxx]

@@sammie4092 I'm just pointing out that he's incorrect when saying PSU doesn't have a Top 25 win. Illinois was raked 21 when they played PSU.

[@albar7250]

If strength of schedule don't matter then why is Indiana number 5 why not number 2 they are full of crap

[@shekelberggoldstein1387]

It's not serious. It's a joke!

[@BlackSlacksGarage]

really stupid process.......SMH

[@amosautomotivepaintrestora1948]

A bunch of babies. How about don’t lose 2 games and stop crying 😭

[@artsheart]

This conversation is a great space filler, but means nothing this year. Your guest used word salad. He is an insulting word salad. Get over it.

[@montyeason3973]

Scam!

[@GPrice-mg8mi]

lol “national”

[@bryanrupp4759]

Georgia is playing a tough Massachusetts game this weekend.

[@SilFord-o9f]

Look at the ENTIRE schedule, MORON, NUMBSKULL

[@MarkeseThurman-y6f]

They deserve an easy game

[@wizza2315]

Georgia is the biggest crybabies!

[@Kem-j8n]

Pretty sure your team plays a team like this every week 😂

[@TheBugkillah]

Which team had the toughest schedule this year?

[@ronaldmoore730]

Ifs and buts. Fact, good teams don't lose

[@Romad_20]

Horse shit

[@wizza2315]

Georgia has played a cupcake schedule for the last 5 years and they finally play a real schedule and now yall crying! The irony & how soft georgia folks are is pathetic Bama put the beats on ur head and ole miss stomped you out when are yall going to accept U ARE NO LONGER ELITE! GET OVER IT NOBODY SCARED OF GEORGIA! RTR 🏈🐘🏆

[@larryhubbard6106]

Hater. We got two chips in the last 5 years!!!! The strength of schedule for “this year” for UGA is insane. WHAT ROCK DO YOU LIVE UNDER?

[@reyb1649]

What's wrong with you? Us SEC fans are trying to make 𝐚 point of Big Ten bias and here you are attacking Georgia. 🤡

[@Southprong59]

In 2022 UGA played 7 top 25 teams, won 7, lost 0, and played/beat 3 top 6 teams. No one else in the country came close to UGA's schedule that year. How many top 25 teams did your team beat in 2022? How many top 25 teams did your team play in 2022 and what was their record against those top 25 teams???

[@WillOCrunk]

@@reyb1649Alabama Fan, Reading Comprehension. You have to pick one haha

[@davida730]

Ah yes. Like they didn't have to beat 2 top 4 teams to win both those Championships. Weak schedule. Got it.