Mike's Minute: What will the protest actually achieve?

[@harrywp5785]

It strengthens the resolve who want a fair and united nz. Its time for a contemporary document spelling this out once and for all. Way overdue thanks very much.

[@PiefacePete46]

We already have one of those apparently (according to some people)... it seems to be missing sizable chunks as the result of poor handling, I would guess. Did those entrusted with its safekeeping not consider it all that important? Regardless, any suggestion of an updated version is just asking for a world of trouble!

[@helenlizzystewart4908]

Jenny Shipley has said some dumb things but saying this could get into civil war has to be one of the dumbest, who the hell is she anyway

[@urbanegorilla6005]

A failed builder.

[@paulrayner1274]

A failed Mainzeal director?

[@sonofagalwayman6553]

a scammer

[@kevinansley7353]

Some cockys missus, qualifications to live by.

[@KeithFletcher-kb5dv]

@@helenlizzystewart4908 she is certainly passed her by used date and should butt out as a National speaker

[@paulrayner1274]

Well said Mike. It’s a shambles of a country now, sadly. Closer to looking third world and not what we thought it could be when we were growing up.More and more of our talented kiwis are voting with their feet - either to chase improved cancer treatment, better incomes or a more future focused Australia.

[@PiefacePete46]

Even sadder... our poor little "shambles of a country" is just a speck on our shambles of a planet!

[@217bells]

Recruiting drive for maori and green parties

[@johnmead8437]

Pretty much all there. Note the millions who aren't. welcomed to Wellington by the professionally incompetent that was voted in & needs supervision..... Is there a pattern there?

[@richardwendt9266]

And this bill isn't a recruitment drive for ACT to gain more political relevance at the cost of driving a wedge into NZ society?

[@margaretparsons648]

Yes ambitious little man who has the arrogance to edit our founding document. Two parties were present in 1840. One vote seeking fool in 2024.

[@roilhead]

​@@richardwendt9266If it is then it's working.

[@mabear9238]

​@@richardwendt9266 Act is definitely not the one driving a wedge into NZ society, that without a doubt is this maori party, this treaty and the deception of the Labour Party i.e sneaking policies through during covid and beyond. This treaty seems to have many interpretations which has left it open to manipulation and abuse by some, including the WT, which most New Zealanders have had enough of. Davids Bill will remove the Grey areas in this treaty so as to leave no room for any further misinterpretations, manipulations, misunderstandings or abuse and by doing so, will benefit all New Zealanders as it rightly should.

[@mcgruff3309]

The NZ MSM just love It because they are on the red side of red! 🤣

[@BradArmstron9]

TVNZ needs to be defunded. They use our tax money to push division.

[@drednorzt]

"Everyone i disagree with is a communist" ~McGruff, 2024

[@KeithFletcher-kb5dv]

The Treaty Principle bill should be discussed by all NZers and get agreement on where as a country where we are headed

[@quaystreet8410]

Why? Please tell me about any Treaty between two sovereign nations that was decided by public referendum.

[@KeithFletcher-kb5dv]

@ because it is not about the treaty but the principles of the treaty two totally different things the principle only came about in about 1975 but were never defined now in this day and age clarity is needed

[@runforrestrun1965]

Media was so biased. Had a maori girl from tvnz literally praising the grandstanding actions of tpm. Should be sacked.

[@hariseldon3786]

Bizzarely, despite hysterical reports, the Bill does not abolish anyone's "RIGHTS" rather it enforces EVERYONE'S EQUAL RIGHTS... so what are they on about? Preferential "rights"...

[@stevehughes1510]

yep, promoting and keeping the racist maori gravy train going, the Tamiheres' and Harawiras' etc etc.

[@paulfriedrich5356]

Exactly that is what I cannot get over

[@BradArmstron9]

When they started comparing themselves to Palestinians, I stopped taking anything they did seriously. They want the rest of the world to think we are oppressing them.

[@deantairi8357]

thats not what the prime minister of New Zealand thinks.

[@neilking6909]

The simple fact is Its trying to be stopped because if it goes to public "debate and referendum vote" Maori and supporters will be "hugely out-voted" all the bill wants is a final interpretation so everyone is on the same page,but unfortunately people interpret to their own desires what suits them best on the day

[@SteveJory]

We are are now officially on the way to being 2nd world country.

[@BradArmstron9]

I moved back in 2022 and am regretting my choice. This country went loony under Jacinda.

[@davidcampbell3642]

​@@BradArmstron9Well leave then.

[@deantairi8357]

@@BradArmstron9 and dont come back

[@fallout76nz24]

They were interviewing people on the march and alot of people didnt even know why they were marching lol.

[@richardwendt9266]

@@BradArmstron9 Did you know that NZ was one of only 2 countries in the world to have an increase in life expectancy during the COVID epidemic?

[@urbanegorilla6005]

If you really want the bill to pass into law, just vote 2 ticks ACT in 2 year's time. Simple and hassle free.

[@richardwendt9266]

Hell no. ACT's policies would drive my partner's (teacher) income down $10 per hour. If we had this coalition in power in 2020, the effects would have been: 1. I would have lost my business based on the opposition to the COVID response packages by ACT and National 2. My partner would be earning considerably less in her teaching role 3. We would not be in the position to build a house like we're currently doing 4. We would struggle financially to feed our 3 year old child This coalition would have literally ruined our lives based on their policies.

[@dualnon6643]

@@richardwendt9266yes but rich people and corporations wouldn’t have to pay as much tax

[@Metallislayer1]

@@richardwendt9266 sounds like you already took the L bro. what a sadsack

[@greevous]

The bill actually does have value because it has removed the facade of civility from the Maori Party for all to see. This also is showing the average NZer that the Maori Party does not want equality they think they have more rights than anyone else and everyone should bow before their temper tantrums....... They should be booted out of parliament like the National Front was for their racist behaviour and ideals.

[@Cameronsutubes]

Hikoi of hopelessness

[@francispou274]

haters gonna hate fuk the haters

[@zackysullivan2088]

Hikoi for "watch this space "

[@jenniferheta4770]

@Cameronsutubes. ..pathetic backlash comment of stupidity

[@jenniferheta4770]

​@zackysullivan2088 gosh your pathetic????

[@thatdave86]

Big shout out to all immigrants that have mostly come to NZ with little ,have made a life for themselves,are working hard dor a better life than what rhey came from ,are confident to go into business and more ,because where they came from ,life wasnt easy . Its a shame rhat some of the population dont take a different view on what and how they do thing's,in nany cases they arent doing anything except taking handouts. Parliament is now a shambles.

[@drednorzt]

Its disingenuous to use immigrants stories to try and back up your own argument. Let them speak for themselves. I think you'll find most of them wouldn't agree with you.

[@PapaBaush]

Absolutely, the top ten percent wealthy here are horrible like that, enabled and backed by parliament

[@zackysullivan2088]

Honor the treaty

[@PapaBaush]

@@thatdave86 ye bro it’s rough how the top ten percent wealthy here are like that

[@Elawz]

People don’t forget to put your submissions through it’s open let your voice known!!!!! 🤙🏾🤙🏾 Democracy will prevail it always does

[@NovacomNZ]

Make a submission to parliament. I just did it online and it's open till January 7th. Have your say! The principles need to be defined.

[@KeithFletcher-kb5dv]

@@NovacomNZ do you have a link

[@barneyboy2008]

They are defined. Just not to Davids liking.

[@tt-tm6kn]

Watch what Matt Walsh had to say

[@DW_Kiwi]

Don't write this Bill off!! The seeds of discontent among the Majority have been sown. They "will" germinate!!

[@drednorzt]

Bro, nobody wants racism to germinate. Its bad for everyone. Think for yourself instead of letting David do it for you.

[@NZSuga]

Its going to achieve a referendum and for new Zealand to come together as a one nation one government. equal rights to education law health housing ect and no special treatment for one race over any others

[@quaystreet8410]

Please tell me about any Treaty between two sovereign nations that was decided by public referendum.

[@PiefacePete46]

Have you been a stand-up comedian for long?

[@sunstar1630]

Maori activists brought their ACT of War onto the floor of Parliament, and nobody moved.

[@ronaldgraham3412]

Like being at a cool persons funeral, people show up because they want to be seen their not because they actually had much to do with them.

[@secondchance6603]

What will the protest actually achieve? Painting a picture to the world that Maori are extremely intolerant when the truth is it's a tiny minority of Maori exploiting the vast majority of Maori for their own nefarious reasons.

[@caravanstuff2827]

Did you hear that... it's the sound of front doors closing as our educated middle class leaves for Australia... PERMANENTLY!!!.💔🇳🇿

[@PiefacePete46]

I hope they did their homework... Australia is a bigger place... It has a governmental structure that is uncomfortably close to the comedy hour used in the USA. The issues surrounding the rights of the indigenous peoples make the New Zealand scenario simplicity itself. If that is not enough to make you reconsider, ponder getting your arse bitten by a Western Brown while you're using the long-drop... MATE! The surfing's pretty good though... COBBER! 😊

[@briananderson5634]

I don't always agree with you, but you are right on the money with this one.

[@BjornFlower-qx9ur]

What a stark difference between the supportive reaction of the press, political parties, police, etc. to this demonstration versus the negativity and brutality towards the peaceful demonstration against the mandates.

[@Freedom4UFreedom4every1]

@drednorzt Maybe you should learn proper history before you jump on the gravy train calling us all "racists" and 5/6th of the population that ? 1/6th of people do not dictate the majority, I and most people just do not care about climate this, palestine that, rainbow this. Get a job and get real!

[@davidfavel5701]

I have a job, and I am calling bullshit on you. Sure we ain't as racist as the states or aussie. I also care about climate change

[@Freedom4UFreedom4every1]

@davidfavel5701 You Maori extremists are so racist you guys make Jim Crow look moderate. You are so mixed up that you think Palestinian Terrorists are your friends when they would also kill you too! Do you really have a job Sir ? Good on you!

[@Freedom4UFreedom4every1]

@@davidfavel5701 Yes you guys are very racist & separatist almost like Jim Crow or 1930's Nazi Germany.

[@grahamclark5766]

Rabble looking for trouble with gangs involved, how many actually have jobs and TPM are funding them

[@drednorzt]

Old & tired tropes.

[@ducker09]

Its about a recruitment drive br the rabblr known as tha maori party. I am a maori they dont speak for me .😮

[@amozzie2024]

Police in uniform helping to paint protest insignia!!😡

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

Wouldn't rule out riots soon, the Gang's are apparently fronting at parliament on Thursday so another platform is saying. Police out numbered.

[@normankeoghan5298]

That’s interesting, Labour and greens supporting this protest on parliament grounds. When they claimed it to be illegal under there leadership. What a joke. If this dose not go to a referendum we are no longer a democracy. I am hoping dictatorship is behind us.

[@drednorzt]

What a crock of shit.

[@PollyTooman]

Load of crap where did u hear this from newscrap zb

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

@@PollyTooman you momma told me.

[@D64nz]

These scary gangs national keep telling us about are finally going to appear? 😂 If they do, it wouldn't happen to a better bunch of... people 😂

[@paulthomson2288]

I returned to NZ in 2012 after nearly a decade off shore. The regret has gradually strengthened every year since.

[@Edgycoo]

Its just a good excuse to take time off work. If in fact they are working in the first place.

[@briansatchell2319]

That's all it is. A chance to catch up with the Cussies. Have a sing along Eat some Free food fill in a couple days while the suns shining. Then hop back in the car and go home to the Couch

[@rayclark3043]

Annual leave..heard of it??

[@Edgycoo]

@@rayclark3043 annual leave from what? dont make me laugh. Put someone forward and do a live debate. Or do you not want that after the greens and maori party were high fiving and lost even more votes.

[@deantairi8357]

tax payers leave

[@Edgycoo]

@@deantairi8357 tax payers leave?

[@David-dt1km]

It has actually achieved Division in our country !

[@jackohere1878]

LOL ever think a "bill" spineless National should never had agreed to allow into Parliament maybe the cause of the "division" or is that what you mean?

[@MichaelCairns-fv2vi]

WRONG...its the shonky bill proposal thats driving discord

[@argondemad8024]

How? Are people not allowed to protest a democratic system that people voted for now😂 or what am I missing?

[@David-dt1km]

@@MichaelCairns-fv2vi I suggest that you read the bill, Its for Everyone! Regards

[@David-dt1km]

@@argondemad8024 Of course people re allowed to protoest. Still stick by my comment that it has achieved Division, has it not?? regards

[@Colin_Izer1111]

Aug 28th 1963 Martin Luther king gave his famous speech "I have a dream"... You all remember the one...... "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream." Fast forward to today, and in New Zealand, such a sentiment is now apparently considered "Racist" by those marching on this Hikoi. My how times have changed and not for the better. 🤦‍♂

[@drednorzt]

Says the person whos spent their whole life on the side of privilige.

[@PapaBaush]

If you actually look and listen, the participants of this hikoi are living the famous speech of Matin Luther King. All races, ages and even religions are present and walking peacefully side by side

[@Colin_Izer1111]

@@PapaBaush 1981 New Zealand marched against Apartheid....2024 and some of New Zealand are marching in favor of it.

[@Colin_Izer1111]

@@drednorzt Hard work and striving for excellence gets passed off as "privilege" by those stuck in the mentality of eternal victimhood. Truely pathetic.

[@quaystreet8410]

Come on Mike - Please tell us about any Treaty between two sovereign nations that was decided by public referendum.

[@Freedom4UFreedom4every1]

No way that they are Sovereign

[@zackysullivan2088]

Yes we are!!! Bless your heart ❤

[@Freedom4UFreedom4every1]

@@zackysullivan2088 No they are not. The chiefs in 1840 had no conception of sovereignty or money, time, only war and eating each other. Maori killed the original peoples and ate them and tried to say they were here first.

[@TW-mc9wk]

Every platform and discussion group I come across is generally in support of the bill and David. I don’t really understand why it’s not fully supported by National. I’d bet if anyone had the balls to call a referendum it would overwhelmingly support the bill . One country, one people regardless of race.

[@pauls9322]

The people I saw were kids & students. Nobody who actually pays tax or is even in the workforce.

[@gracegood3661]

I’ve been reading the comments... thanks all for helping me decide vote Maori next election.

[@BjornFlower-qx9ur]

It's amazing the difference in support from media, political parties, etc. for this demonstration compared to the hostility by the same groups towards a peaceful demonstration against the mandates.

[@drednorzt]

lmfao

[@richardwendt9266]

Because the mandates were designed to save lives? NZ was one of only 2 countries in the world to have an increase in life expectancy. Would you have rather things had gone the other way?

[@Execrate200]

@@richardwendt9266 Absolutely you dellusional woke muppet. Cry harder Biach.

[@BjornFlower-qx9ur]

@richardwendt9266 Definitely. A lot of livelyhoods destroyed for nothing. How many commited suicide because of the effects of the mandates? How many died because of covid? What was the average and the median age of those that sadly died? How many died because of the shots? Please let me know.

[@julietappin837]

Weight loss for a bunch of greedy liars

[@HemiFox]

Sounds like you are a whitey?

[@secondchance6603]

@@HemiFox < Another privileged, intolerant Maori racist, well done you.

[@charlenemcgillan5650]

Why was the treaty made and signed?? So we could live as one people together under one law it was really clear in the English version and because of 2 words in the Maori one we can't agree yea there needs to be something done so the hate stops. Plus no one really owns the land or sea its for all of man kind to look after from god

[@carolbozich9194]

More division between left and right , what a difference in media coverage from the Wellington freedom protest Natural law applies to all who dwell in this land, as living and born here, I am no less or more than others, my family goes back four generations, some are recent arrivals I and you are equal humans together and have the right to live here in peace without feeling like a stanger in this land We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men and women are created equal. Do no harm, do no foul, cause no loss Pax optima rerum. peace is the greatest good.

[@drednorzt]

There is no such thing as natural law here. That sounds like some sovereign citizen mumbo jumbo. Its the protestors who want peace. Seymour is the one fanning flames.

[@sonnyalbert842]

Its the best protest ive witnessed no one hurt all respectful no police stand offs alot of nzdrs representation of all walks just amazing oh and dont forget the maori roll is increasing omg cant wait for next election

[@gymwithrhythm]

Preaching grievance to every new generation is Hate. Truth is Love. That's the difference between the Treaty of Waitangi fulfilling obligations, and Maori behaviour in return.

[@PapaBaush]

Hahaha

[@gymwithrhythm]

@@PapaBaush Hahahaha

[@Jay-oh1li]

Maori were very silent when the treaty principals came in and were working in their favour.

[@roslynhita6149]

and "those" Maori arent who I lived with and grew up with!... shame!

[@MarcDuff-l7b]

Made me proud to be a Kiwi

[@nicktaylor7680]

And the person responsible doesn't even get a mention - makes you look just as craven as he does Mike.

[@ilovemimisomuch]

Your points Mike might be valid, but the point of the protest is because Māori don’t trust the government with the whole process of the bill. The damage is done, and today’s protest showed that.

[@rogermorris7869]

Whatever Power is in the Treaty, the 'wealth creators' want to neuter it.

[@PiefacePete46]

Read the Bill. Listen to the author's explanation. Think about what you have read and heard, with an open and unbiased mind. To me, it is reasonable, fair, and just makes common sense. BUT... "reasonable", "fair", and "common sense" seem to have little place in today's world! Isn't it time to step back, take a deep breath, and just enjoy what we have... together?

[@Smitty55888]

The maori don't want us to have equal rights under the law.

[@drednorzt]

Got any Maori voices to quote on that?

[@Youknowwhatyouknowbro]

​@@drednorztMaori want own government as to have Maori under Maori government then they can declare war on pakeha government because you can't have two governments running a country

[@drednorzt]

@@Youknowwhatyouknowbro Thats not what co-governance means. There is no proposal by anyone to have two governments, not even Maori. Where did you get that belief?

[@Youknowwhatyouknowbro]

@@drednorzt your king said it go look it up.he literally said"would you like a Maori government well it will be a hard fight it but collectively with others we can"he said it on his podium.and two people can not co governence it want work

[@drednorzt]

@@Youknowwhatyouknowbro Are you in a relationship? Do you and your partner share responsibility? or does one of you tell the other how to behave and whats best for them...

[@kiwiadventurer]

The underlying message is the scary bit. This won't go away and if you choose democracey you better be prepared to put YOUR effort toward a common goal, don't rely on others to take your fight to the enemy.

[@healthsongs]

Not well thought through of course. It's a show of support for the treaty and the process of redress. It's a referendum of sorts, the non binding type which one might also argue "achieves nothing". Seems to have some pissed off so maybe not nothing. I think what is so worrying to many is that it represents change. The good old days where lawmakers did and said what the heck they wanted the heck they wanted are gone. Get over it.

[@pampossum9431]

This bill is not dead, if NZers put in submissions Luxon etc,etc will soon do a massive back pedal once they realise the majority want this to happen including, I suspect, the majority of people with Maori ancestry of some sort!

[@MaoriWithAttitude]

The end? This is just the beginning mate, and the hikoi has made people around the world take notice on the issue of Indigenous Rights world wide, not just Aotearoa!

[@drednorzt]

100%. Why so many people want to bitterly cling to the past is beyond me. The treaty is something we are looked to with inspiration for.

[@stuartdouce]

just another racist maori. professional victim. get a job.

[@jimb12312]

​@@drednorzt The treaty is a shambles. Multiple interpretations. Ongoing tribunal hearings. Endless squabbling. It's a load of shit. We need to become a Republic with a Constitution. Repeal and replace the Treaty.

[@amethystfeathers7324]

People around the world are calling Maori savages and culturally bankrupt.

[@nikkiddle4745]

It's the rest of NZ that you need to impress, not the "world". And so far you are simply creating massive resentment against Maori.

[@margaretparsons648]

No its not the country you grew up in. That was old english Christchurch when everything was "nice" and Maori behaved so go back there. We won't have our founding document which was an agreement between two peoples edited by one jumped up ambitious little twerp without any consultation with the other half of the pact. Principle 2: "If their rights differ from the rights of everyone.... Theres the twist right there - manipulated as seen fit by the crown or Mr Ambitious Seymour. Wont get him more votes at the next election because there are more thinking people in this country than fearful ones evidenced by the huge pakeha turnout at today's hikoi. GET READY FOR THE RENAISSANCE!

[@hoppynaki]

How's your mate Alan Jones doing mike?

[@peace2u947]

democracy for it to be fair would look like this 120 seats in parliament with the vote being split up by 0.8333% of the vote per seat in parliament, if you have an NZ passport and are a registered NZ citizen you can run for parliament under any banner of political party or form your own. Democracy isn't democracy under the current setup its politically geared towards the two main parties, legitimate voters are drowned out and eventually their votes are reassigned to other parties. its not a democracy at all. Although i find Mike to be heavily slanted to the Right on the political spectrum on the odd occasion he comes out with a worthy insight albeit with a bias to the blue corner...

[@peace2u947]

jus think winnie bago, u mite get a few more rodeo's if we had a 4 realz democracy, currently we jus have a mocracy and with the status quo mocracy that = no more rodeo's for the pooh bear!

[@yolandascholten2012]

A nice day out?

[@AXEISHERWOOD]

One rich mans opinion. Get stuffed.

[@mohsen9233]

It does nothing? Really? It might encourage you to correctly pronounce “Māori”!

[@zeffopasi3267]

What ever know it all 😂😂😂

[@davidfentonhancock6646]

And NZ First......who along with the Nats will expunge the words principle......Conduct a comprehensive review of all legislation that includes 'The Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi" and replace all such references with specific words relating to the relevance and application of the Treaty, or repeal the references. THANK GOD......THE NATS HAVE SIGNED THAT DEAL AND THEY HAVE TO GO AHEAD......WATCH THIS SPACE......

[@dennisbrady9543]

trump 24

[@kayeclarke7561]

The British Crown considered the Numbered Treaties to be an exchange for the surrender of Indigenous Rights and Title to land, so settlers from foreign lands could occupy lands within the colonial territories that the British laid claim to. In return, the British Crown guaranteed First Nations certain Treaty and Inherent Rights in perpetuity.

[@kayeclarke7561]

First Nations that signed these Numbered Treaties believed they were entering a trust relationship with the British Crown; First Nations were to share and co-exist with settlers from foreign lands. Therefore, First Nations never agreed to the sale of their lands and resources. Instead, they agreed to share their Indigenous lands, to the depth of a plough, as stated in the following quote:

[@kayeclarke7561]

“At the time, the government said that we would live together, that I am not here to take away what you have now…I am here to borrow the land…to the depth of a plough…that is how much I want.”

[@D64nz]

​@@kayeclarke7561good to see at least one person here knows their history. The Crown couldn't defeat the Maori on the battlefield, so they willingly signed this agreement with the leaders of the Maori people. They now need to honor their agreement. 😊

[@margarettyler58]

@@kayeclarke7561who does the quote belong to?

[@kayeclarke7561]

@@margarettyler58 why do you ask?

[@jameshegarty5454]

A bill destined for the waste bin is not worth the millions of taxpayer dollars that will be spent on it before it will be rejected. Fiscal responsibility? Obviously not. While you may be one of New Zealand's great intellectuals you seemed to have missed the whole point of the Treaty Principles bill. It seeks to sneak in short cuts for business interests (transnational corporations naturally) to bypass safe guards for public resources. That is, to make it easier for transnationals to make a profit at our expense. That is why ACT and sections of the National Party find the treaty so troublesome. It puts a spoke in the rape of public resources.

[@authenticshift5515]

Tribal rule in no way protects the land. If anything, it makes it more vulnerable.

[@marcusnz232]

Spot on Mike, as usual. Watching these kidults waving flags and moaning on about things they have not read in most cases and could not understand in most cases. Very tiresome.

[@Steve-j1m5f]

Seymour's Treaty Principles Bill is not a cure but the disease 😂

[@robertcoake1971]

Wrong Mike on all counts, for you to say those things,that is why change needs to happen, and it starts with exposure, then truth followed by justice, then this nation will be set free and the people

[@adubbya1776]

What will the treaty principles bill achieve shoud be the question. It's totally unnecessary and Noone can answer what it hopes to achieve.

[@davidcampbell3642]

A lot of people on here still think the British Empire is alive and kicking. I hate to break it to you, but the Empire died in ignomny at Singapore in 1942. The conquered are equal citizens now.

[@amethystfeathers7324]

What's your point? People for the Bill want it because it would make all Kiwis equal. You're typical of over emotional fools who have gone off on some weird path with no idea what they're talking about.

[@NZ-ms3vc]

In fact it still is alive via the Westminster tradition in NZ Parliament & New Zealand’s system of government is described as a constitutional monarchy. It means that, while our Head of State is a hereditary monarch (the Sovereign). Let’s break free and MAGA (Make Aotearoa Great Again)

[@djhemirukahemisphere8893]

easy to tell which voters follow this narrative. Good ole kiwis - not many Maori. Not the diaenfranchised, not the natives, not those most effected by the changes to the founding document mostly the beneficiaries of colonisation. Those the land was taken for not taken from. Good luck with your conscience

[@Metallislayer1]

Hate to break it to you, but the bill doesnt touch the "founding document"

[@chrismckellar9350]

Presently, it is a PR exercise by the Maori Party. That said, in the last poll, 46% surveyed supported the bill, 29% opposed the bill and 25% weren't sure. Since National is going to vote down the Bill in the second reading, Seymour has wasted tax payers money, cost the economy money in lost productivity which doesn't look good for Seymour and his party who promotes him and themselves that the party is is about saving tax payer money and increase productivity to enrich the party's wealthy supporters.

[@jackohere1878]

Seymour played the Nats like fools in coalition talks now he is playing National right wing voters using fear mongering (this "bill" and his never ending slanted dog rhetoric) to attract their votes in 2026 and sadly I believe it is working. National made a huge error allowing the "bill" into Parliament.

[@argondemad8024]

Interesting outlook. Because act was voted in on their policy its a waste of money? Or because the stats you shared show the minority dont like it?

[@johnmead8437]

If that poll is valid, it shows repression of democracy alive & well. Luxon should absorb that.

[@rayclark3043]

Ahh the tyranny of democracy as espoused by Socrates.

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@argondemad8024 - What planet are you on? National has said they will vote the Bill down on the second reading, to me, that is a waste of money and time that Seymour has created considering him and his party is about less spending of the tax payer's money. By the way, 46% surveyed supported the bill, 29% OPPOSED the bill and 25% WEREN'T SURE.

[@simonwalter4206]

Mr Hosking, the bill was designed to inflame, it inflamed. Your slick, sweeping presentation skipping over the key issues obfuscates rather than clarifying anything.

[@helstonoldboy]

what a plonker this guy is

[@Peter-kk6rg]

Occupy Parliament ❤

[@leylandbarr7247]

They just like to be theatrical.

[@D64nz]

The crown couldn't defeat the Moari on the battlefield, so they have been trying and failing to defeat them on the courtroom. 😂

[@jaymanilla289]

new zealand for English and maori only. partnership, te tiriti o waitiangi

[@secondchance6603]

Why just the English?

[@jaymanilla289]

@secondchance6603 te tiriti o waitangi, partnership between the english settlers and maori only. not the entire world.

[@secondchance6603]

@@jaymanilla289 Wrong: 'Te Tiriti o Waitangi is an agreement between the British Crown and over 500 Māori rangatira.' Did you see that? the word BRITISH not ENGLISH? How sad that I seem to know more about it than you do but that doesn't surprise me one little bit.

[@davidcampbell3642]

​@secondchance6603 Britain was just a nice name to hide from the conquered peoples of the British Isles the fact that they were conquered and subjugated. The treaty was with England in all but name.

[@secondchance6603]

@@davidcampbell3642 You couldn't be more of an ignoramus if you tried, well done you!

[@spider-man910]

attention seeking .... a raise in the unemployment benefit .....

[@drednorzt]

Well worn & tired old prejudice. Listen to what they're saying.

[@spider-man910]

@@drednorzt Like what please explain or tell me something idk ....lol

[@drednorzt]

@@spider-man910 I'm not in the Hikoi. Listen to them yourself. Their message is loud and clear if you take the time to hear it.

[@spider-man910]

@@drednorzt I did but I want your point of view. ...since you seem very clear what they are protesting about .....

[@drednorzt]

@@spider-man910 Ok. David is being disingenuous when he says he wants equality for all. Contrary to what he says, many many people with experience and past authority are saying his bill will be damaging to both Maori & most Pakeha. These include former prime ministers Helen Clarke, Jenny Shipley & John Key (the latter obviously both being from National). They also obviously include the other opposition parties, TPM, The Greens & Labour, but I presume you will discount them. On top of all of those people, the Kings Council, the most prominent and experienced lawyers in the country have publicly stated how damaging to our constitution (ToW) it will be, as well as the Waitangi Tribunal (one aspect of their role is to screen for harmful incoming legislation). The protestors have the same message as everyone listed above. It will damage much of the protection the treaty enables for everyone here as well as environmental protection for the land. Is that clear enough for you?

[@LisaMHerewini]

Toitu Te Tiriti losers

[@anthony-m9m1i]

Mike's minute - something his poor wife put's up with once a week.