Mike Tyson vs. George Foreman: Who wins in their primes? Mayweather Boxing Club predicts

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Jeff Mayweather asks some of the guys inside the Mayweather Boxing Club who would win between Mike Tyson and George Foreman if they fought in their primes
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@derp9193
@derp9193 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Nate said prime Foreman didn't throw combos. He literally threw everything he had in his prime, he didn't start throwing 1-2s until his second career
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
it means he didnt do em smoothly throwing without timing was dumb like u
@leenvdsteeg8147
@leenvdsteeg8147 3 жыл бұрын
"It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier," - Cus D’Amato
@azteka6103
@azteka6103 2 жыл бұрын
@irish man frazier was faster and stronger and higher IQ.
@richlyons6004
@richlyons6004 2 жыл бұрын
@@azteka6103 Are you saying Frazier was faster than Mike or George?
@Einsteinsnutz
@Einsteinsnutz 2 жыл бұрын
@Legend of Awe Sheeet !!! that dude is a clown, if he cant come up with a counter he just copy and pastes exactly what you said back
@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822
@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman tyson would lose to george
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822 mental
@zaynbukhari2025
@zaynbukhari2025 3 жыл бұрын
I’m picking Gorge Foremen for this 🙏🏽
@MikeBrownLegend
@MikeBrownLegend 2 жыл бұрын
Tough call. People keep saying Mike Tyson is the same as Joe Frazier and while Frazier has the legendary will too fight, prime Tyson is much quicker with better footwork than Frazier so he could potentially land a lot more shot in than Frazier did.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeBrownLegend much better defense to whole different style dumb to compare them
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeBrownLegend Exactly
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Reread what we wrote and make sure you understand what we're saying. Considering you're response it seems really weird that you didn't quite understand what we were saying.
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Who's talking about anyone called Tom? I don't understand your comment.
@russelindia
@russelindia 3 жыл бұрын
It took a very special performance by Ali to stop Foreman ..... Ali himself was special , so special person with special performance stopped George !
@maxv6837
@maxv6837 Жыл бұрын
And the referee gave Foreman a very fast count that was like a 7 second count. Foreman could have continued although he would have lost a decision. George didn't know about controlling his tempo at this point in his career, so he would go all out and get completely exhausted. This played into Ali's strengths of precise punching and stamina.
@russelindia
@russelindia Жыл бұрын
@@maxv6837 Foreman was very good but Ali was street smart , he used his brains instead of getting carried away
@maxv6837
@maxv6837 Жыл бұрын
@@russelindia Ali grew up in a middle class two parent home. He was not street smart. He did have a very high boxing IQ though.
@komodorveteran4443
@komodorveteran4443 Жыл бұрын
@@maxv6837 count again man, try it whit your phone, is 10 not 7.
@salvadorw.empent2778
@salvadorw.empent2778 2 жыл бұрын
I personally believe the older George foreman would've took Mike Tyson into deeper waters then the young George foreman!
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 2 жыл бұрын
I Think the same thing. Younger George would gas out if he didn't put him away within 7 rounds or so but older George was more resoursfull as Well as more durable
@fineline8348
@fineline8348 Жыл бұрын
bro stfu 😭😭😭, u trynna sound different, sorry but thats just dumb!!
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman Жыл бұрын
All anyone has to do is to watch the Foreman vs Holyfield fight. Foreman came very close to winning, but he was old when that happened. What would have happened if Foreman would've been in his prime? It would've been sleep time for Holyfield. And, just think, Holyfield DID beat Tyson.
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Props and respect to both. I think they're great so was Muhammad and Fraizer was a badass too.
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 3 жыл бұрын
Big George!
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
loses i agree
@poolplexer
@poolplexer Жыл бұрын
Nah formen wins this
@poolplexer
@poolplexer Жыл бұрын
Tyson even said he didnt want to fight that animal reffering to George
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@@poolplexer the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches why would you even say a person like george would win is odd
@JohnnyO0333
@JohnnyO0333 3 жыл бұрын
I'm taking George because of his length and power, especially in the jab. But I could see a case for both guys. One thing for sure, this fight would not go the distance.
@Djuane
@Djuane 3 жыл бұрын
What about prime mikes unbelievable speed and boxing skills as a young fighter? Foreman was powerful but not quick by any means. It takes more than brute strengh to win a fight didnt goku teach you anything lol?
@JohnnyO0333
@JohnnyO0333 3 жыл бұрын
@@Djuane yeah, like I said, I could see a case for both because Tyson was an unbelievable athlete but he is only really dangerous coming forward in the beginning of fights, then he slows down quite a bit. I think Foreman would press with that size and constant power shots. Tyson can't fight going backwards but he maybe could make it inside fight and hurt George.
@varinderpanesar5691
@varinderpanesar5691 3 жыл бұрын
@@Djuane I personally have my money on Big George look at the frazer fight for an example. Frazer was fast not as fast as tyson but Georges style just counters Tyson. He would frame off his body and push him around mike can't fight even with his speed off balance.
@devilface97
@devilface97 3 жыл бұрын
@@Djuaneprime foreman wasn't as slow as people make him out to be. Mike slips a hook thinking its coming high then it lands low. Speed wont bail mike out of that
@JohnnyO0333
@JohnnyO0333 3 жыл бұрын
@John yeah but he still has a puncher's chance to win. There is really no parallel to his explosiveness that I've ever seen from a Heavyweight
@deguyjay5408
@deguyjay5408 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t even bother debating this topic. George Foreman beats Tyson every day of the week and twice on Sundays, and I’m 99.8% certain of this. Even Cus D’amotto believed that there was no way Tyson could beat Foreman. Tyson couldn’t bully Foreman, and Tyson being almost a carbon copy of Frazier would undoubtedly meet the same fate Smokin’ Joe did each time he fought Foreman. Tyson wanted nothing you do with Foreman, and that was very smart in his part.
@besta1677
@besta1677 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ! Styles Make Fights. A short-armed Swarmer/Infighter will only lose to a Rangy and Powerful Bruiser in George Foreman
@besta1677
@besta1677 3 жыл бұрын
The Fact that Cus mentioned this Fact was enough to avoid a Fight with George Foreman, and i mean the Old George.
@Einsteinsnutz
@Einsteinsnutz 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman no one says that
@Einsteinsnutz
@Einsteinsnutz 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman put a grappler and a boxer with equal skills in a fight and see just how styles win fights
@Einsteinsnutz
@Einsteinsnutz 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman bruh what you said means nothing like what, I said equal skill cause that makes it the most fair and just shows that styles change fights, grapplers beat boxers if they're equal skill 90% of the time
@marjansarec2337
@marjansarec2337 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't see Foreman getting knocked out by 1 punch, and Tyson wasn't known for his long distance fights. George's head was a standing target in the Hollyfield fight, and Evander said in an interview, he could have gotten knocked out by George in the 10th, if he hadn't been smart and not trade with George later on in the closing rounds. I pick George in this one, in my opinion he is the GOAT.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
u pick George to lose huh picking George cause other dummies do he would lose
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
Marjan Sarec ...No one ever knocked out George Foreman with one punch. Tyson wouldn't have done it, either!
@johnmctier5187
@johnmctier5187 2 жыл бұрын
George Foreman in his prime was so powerful and so angry but he was always calm 💯
@larslee5341
@larslee5341 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather see 90's George vs prime Tyson, 90's George had all the grit and power of young George- but with more technique and strategy... Big George also was considerably taller and heavier than Tyson too... Foreman some took BOMBS from Holyfield and kept standing, so I'm not seeing Tyson ending the fight by KO... I see Foreman gridding out a KO in the later rounds... Foreman fought the some of the best heavyweights of all time, so I don't think Tyson will intimidate Foreman. Tyson had speed, athleticism, and great technique- where as Foreman had size, strategy, mental toughness, and experience- got to go with Big George!
@dalehammers4425
@dalehammers4425 3 жыл бұрын
90's George was literally told by Ali to not fight Mike Tyson.
@dalehammers4425
@dalehammers4425 3 жыл бұрын
@Graham James not doubting you, but would love to see evidence of that. There is video evidence of Foreman saying he wanted nothing to do with Tyson as well as Ali telling him to avoid him.
@kima_gr
@kima_gr 3 жыл бұрын
@@dalehammers4425 There's also video evidence of Foreman calling out Mike Tyson on National TV in 1989 while Mike was still undisputed champion.
@Djuane
@Djuane 3 жыл бұрын
George hung in there with a undisputed undefeated evander holyfield. I dont think george would have done better against a young mike tyson in 1989 it would have been bad and he would have left that ring busted up. Prime for prime my money is on george foreman
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalehammers4425 George wanted to fight him. Check out the David Letterman interview after he KO’s Cooney.
@thedonkilluminati96
@thedonkilluminati96 Жыл бұрын
George said himself, he was glad he didnt fight tyson, furthermore ali warned him off tyson for a reason. We talking about tyson in his prime with cus in his corner, not tyson when he was neglecting his training and doing drugs and mentally in the wrong place be real. Tysons style the peekaboo would have got foremen. And i love foremen, if they was to fight after foremen wins 💯 but in their primes noone beating tyson, watch tyson punching the bag dude throws like 6 punches in 1second with power in both hands and good foot work
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George these weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why does that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes they say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when they say the blind quote of mike was like joe even though they fought nothing alike its ok to use why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe match cause mike fought nothing like them so why say it these people have been saying that yet vid shows that to be wrong years ago
@periechontology
@periechontology Жыл бұрын
Young Foreman wrecks Tyson.
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Жыл бұрын
@@periechontology in ur dreams. foreman coulnt even beat jimmy young
@aokiji536
@aokiji536 Жыл бұрын
Almost everything in this sentence id wrong. Except for the fact foreman lied about not wanting tyson when hes now a humble old man, tyson ducked foreman and foreman wanted tysons head in the 90s
@tobiesoftstudio823
@tobiesoftstudio823 4 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍🏼 well put!
@Djuane
@Djuane 3 жыл бұрын
You couldnt trade shots with big george. Id put my money on foreman
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you could. Lyle almost took him out that way, and Lyle was nowhere near as fast or accurate as Tyson.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 yup these followers so dumb they dont watch matches just repeat dumb stuff saying how cause George beat joe he could beat mine they had way different style and skills and mike wouldnt get hit much
@Djuane
@Djuane 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman wouldnt get hit much? Mike was getting touched up in his prime with some hard shots from razor ruddock and he was getting stunned because of how hard a puncher he was. Now george forrman is known as one of the heaviest punchers ever.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 2 жыл бұрын
@@Djuane _Mike was getting touched up in his prime with some hard shots from razor ruddock_ Mike's prime was 87-88. After he fired Rooney, his skillset gradually degraded. He also lost focus and did not train hard anymore. He was completely unprepared for the Douglas fight. Got beat, then realized he needed to train again. Did that, but he still wasn't the same without Rooney. The 90-91 Tyson that fought Ruddock was not as good as the 87-88 Tyson. That version stops Ruddock in 5 rounds max. _Now george forrman is known as one of the heaviest punchers ever_ That's irrelevant if he won't be able to land.
@Djuane
@Djuane 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 what a reach, you’re telling me tyson only had 2 years in his prime? Thats seriously a joke because he was top of boxing gaming in 91. Saying he wasnt prime because he was not under cus anymore is not a good argument. Hes still mike tyson
@kevincorso7929
@kevincorso7929 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Jeff all day. So funny.
@CarCraze7
@CarCraze7 Жыл бұрын
Foreman had much power but Tyson is too fast for that slow power foreman punch. Lets see Mayweather Sr vs Mike Tyson because Mayweather Sr like to show people that he still got it.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes they say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George why would mike who had the best defense of all time for his style in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong
@richlyons6004
@richlyons6004 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say Mikes speed, combos and most overlooked headmovment would have been the deciding factor. I know Joe Frazier moved his head but it was nothing compared to Mikes. Love Big George also though 👊❤️
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
yea nothing compared to mike different style and skills
@blazingkiller9762
@blazingkiller9762 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman 🤡
@jwjxhdjxsns
@jwjxhdjxsns 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman You're under every comment lmao you weirdo Tyson fanboy
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwjxhdjxsns @You're under every comment lmao you Tyson fanboy
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
You're under every comment lmao you Tyson fanboy
@besta1677
@besta1677 3 жыл бұрын
Styles Make Fights !!! George would've always have his Number!!! A short-armed Swarmer/Mauler(like Mike Tyson,Joe Frazier,David Tua) will constantly lose to a Very Powerful,Tall Bruiser/Slugger with Overwhelming Reach on you like George Foreman or Sonny Liston. Even a Rooney-Trained Prime Mike Tyson Cannot Beat an old George Foreman, he wouldve got the Joe Frazier-Jamaica-Treatment.
@besta1677
@besta1677 3 жыл бұрын
George Foreman uses the most important Punch, the Jab , not (only) as a Rangefinder but more Like a Ramrod/Poleaxe-Jab to hurt the shorter Boxer, who desperately tries to get inside and continues to Assault you with his Crushing Uppercuts and Hooks. A Guy like David Tua, who never got knocked out in any professional match would lose dramatically against rangy Boxer-Sluggers like Sonny Liston and Big George. David Tua lost to the Great Cuban Felix Savón( great Left Jab and One of Strongest Straight Right Hands Ever) by Knockout. Or Sonny Liston knocked the Undisputed Champ Patterson in the first Round in their 2 Fights out. Even Though Frazier gave Ali Hell and Trouble all the Time, Ali beat Foreman, but Foreman completely dominated and manhandled Joe Frazier. Just because A beats B, and B beats C, does not necessarily mean that C gets beaten by A
@softdrink-0
@softdrink-0 3 жыл бұрын
GEEEEOOOOORGE FOORRRREEEMAN
@michaelcorvin951
@michaelcorvin951 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman George would destroy Mike
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorvin951 mental
@alivstyson1864
@alivstyson1864 3 жыл бұрын
Tough one. Leaning Foreman but I have to admit at 21 Tyson was Fast and George could be wobbled if he didnt get Mike 1st. I really really think it would come down to who landed a hay maker 1st.
@tavo.B
@tavo.B 2 жыл бұрын
The only way George goes down is of you wear him down. And no way Tyson could wear him down. I'd give him 3 rounds
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@tavo.B mental
@Bavarian_Lifting
@Bavarian_Lifting 2 күн бұрын
George better chin and more power. So Mike only has stamina on his side, and not by much. Foreman wins this
@ronf4308
@ronf4308 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever there is a boxing comparison........ Ali vs , Foreman vs, Joe Louis vs, Klitschko vs, Fury vs, Marciano vs....... has anyone ever noticed the Gold standard boxer that they are all hypothetically compared to????? The reference point fighter makes it apparent who the greatest of all time is.
@lanagorgeous9485
@lanagorgeous9485 2 ай бұрын
I just saw again the movie "When We Were Kings", and Ali was able to figure out Foreman, but those other guys that just went head to head and that's the way Tyson fought, you just can't beat a young 24 year old Foremen that way. And Tyson got knocked out by Buster Douglas. Part of Tyson's mystic is people were terrified of him even before they got in the ring. IN their minds they already lost even before the fight started. I remember that fight and Michal Spinks looked like he was about to cry even during introductions, like he was about to face Jason from Halloween, that's how scared he looked! Foreman would not be afraid.
@MrPickledede
@MrPickledede 3 жыл бұрын
I love Samuel Peter!
@cjichida8174
@cjichida8174 2 жыл бұрын
Original Nigerian nightmare
@npaconstruction
@npaconstruction 10 ай бұрын
Mike wasnt there to dance around........No way foreman could beat him.....foreman cant catch him
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 9 ай бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage they say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when they say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance george would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement Nobody has anybody George fought that can compare to mike so how is it they said he would beat Mike where does it come from its based off of nothing which is odd
@dazasiadrayton4973
@dazasiadrayton4973 2 жыл бұрын
I really think foreman and mayweather have slightly similar careers from the standpoint of young floyd was more aggressive and wild while older floyd was more smart and technical same thing with foreman his younger days he would just gas himself out trying to land a KO while in his older days where he beat michael moore he was a more smarter boxer so the point im trying to make is that older foreman has a BETTER chance to beat tyson than younger foreman 💯 70s foreman would just tire himself out and mike probably would’ve gotten him outta there by the 7th or 8th round
@phlontstu
@phlontstu 2 жыл бұрын
George's defense looked primitive but was technically effective for fighters like Tyson.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
which people did George fight who was like mike
@fredwr
@fredwr 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman no one exactly like Mike but style wise Dwight Muhammad qawi Bert cooper Joe Frazier (twice)
@fredwr
@fredwr 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman I'm pretty sure when Mike Tyson was first coming up into boxing every commentator was comparing him to Joe Frazier because of his style so you're wrong there Qawi had a Bob and weave style which george specifically said he picked because he wanted to get ready for Mike tyson, so wrong again Bert cooper also had a Bob and weave style it's just he had to adapt to a stick and move style when fighting george and when he did stand in front of george he got a severe beating every time, but I'll give you that he didn't fight in mike's style for the fight only in spurts
@fredwr
@fredwr 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman I'm afraid this is an agree to disagree situation
@MatrixEyeOpener
@MatrixEyeOpener Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Joe Frazier lmao
@sonheicho9747
@sonheicho9747 2 ай бұрын
Both prime Tyson win but Old George VS Iron Mike from 95 to 97 is very hard to say
@ryanbaker271
@ryanbaker271 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson was built for Foreman
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Yea he was i argee he would win
@jayabhaumik5695
@jayabhaumik5695 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson could keep hitting Foreman's body,his precision punching would have been difficult to digest,as long as Tyson's motivation (killer instinct)was there everything would have fallen into place for him there isn't going to be any debate on that but if he wasn't mentally fit even a 12 years old girl would beat him,all of his problems started to happen because he lost control of his mind he let others steer his mind and that was his biggest problem...
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 2 жыл бұрын
He’d have to get inside while taking not Ali or Holmes like jabs, but blows that turn your head. George had the perfect defense for the swarmers. He’d use his hands like a wrestler and deflect their direction and push to keep them off balance. That’s when the big punches, like the uppercut, would catch them. Watch the first Foreman/Frazier fight. You’ll see what I’m talking about. Styles make fights. Tyson was all wrong for George. Ali handled tall sluggers (like Foreman) well but had problems with swarmers. Tyson in his prime would have given Ali fits.
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
@@vgr112261 ...Tyson would have never defeated Ali, PERIOD!!!
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Жыл бұрын
@@brucescott4261 no mike will beat ali
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@brucescott4261 beat more advanced ver of him slow person
@Namdor2012
@Namdor2012 Жыл бұрын
@@kennykross3306 Watch Tyson against Lennox Lewis who was older than Tyson...Tyson got schooled..Ali in Ali's prime would move, stick and Jab and wipe the floor with him...Who of any caliber did Tyson actually beat..? Even Holyfield was 4 years older than Tyson and had him bitting ears..Tyson was a good fighter, and a great retired fork lift driver destroyer..
@mazzbalboa
@mazzbalboa Күн бұрын
If u come to your conclusion based on how George beat Frazier then ur way off the mark.
@Njfishingmaniac
@Njfishingmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Man a lot of foreman’s. I took Iron Mike in his prime. Solid AF nasty combos that’ll knock out a rhino.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
yea nobody should pick George no reason to he was to slow and easy to hit
@ruatsangapachuau3418
@ruatsangapachuau3418 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman mike wouldn't have time to get close to george in his prime because george style was pushing away before they get close and hit them with his heavy blows
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruatsangapachuau3418 and pushing would put him right back to the range he liked to fight from dummy mike countered those who pushed him if u watched the matches so stop saying dumb quotes u read dummy and George was slow he wouldnt land much dummy so yea Mike would have time sense he was a great counter puncher who was patient u idiot see how saying dumb quotes u read makes u look real dumb George would have to have better speed and fight as a outboxer to beat mike idiot
@ruatsangapachuau3418
@ruatsangapachuau3418 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman what quote are you saying mike was not that fast dummy george had reach advantage so he would put him out of range because george was way bigger than mike and he could move him around
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruatsangapachuau3418 multiple people had reaches and I already told u he would be pushing mike where he fought best at and he was slow wouldnt land much I said this already can u read and George was the same way dummy he needs to not push why dont u get that it wouldnt work good stop sayin that it's a advantage for mike doin that moving him is bad George needs to box and not push stop trolling
@simonp7095
@simonp7095 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman ,hes got a better chin and hits harder
@Bavarian_Lifting
@Bavarian_Lifting 2 күн бұрын
​@@cmoneytheman George showed a far better chin against Holyfield than Tyson?! And yes he would hit, and with far more power
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson can win by decision, by using his head movement and footwork to stick and move, while evading Foreman’s punches. But if Mike thinks he can go in and and just knock Foreman out, or try to just pulverize him with combos, he’s wrong. It’ll be Joe Frazier/Ken Norton all over again.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened heshowed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mike fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense Mike would destroy him in 1st watch the matches i said and you will see george has no chance
@alexarellanoluna6491
@alexarellanoluna6491 Жыл бұрын
That last guy 🤣🤣
@donkarlo7401
@donkarlo7401 Жыл бұрын
Should of asked lennox vs big george. Lennox would of taken him down.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
Easy george was to slow no defense
@donkarlo7401
@donkarlo7401 Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman yea I think lennox also but george could of hurt lennox
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@donkarlo7401 no cause george wouldnt land he was to slow and basic len would run though him
@iankelly5797
@iankelly5797 3 жыл бұрын
Nate Vasquez said it perfectly, no one could beat Mike Tyson in his prime.
@azteka6103
@azteka6103 2 жыл бұрын
You must share the same Iq, foreman was the natural counter of peek-a-boo, but there is no point to remind you that.
@marjansarec2337
@marjansarec2337 2 жыл бұрын
hah, what a sily argument, noone could beat him. like a child
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@azteka6103 You must share the same iq, foreman was the natural counter of peek-a-boo, but there is no point to remind you that.
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
Ian Kelly ...Douglas defeated Tyson. The latter was in his prime when he was knocked out by the former.
@anitelufalemei4200
@anitelufalemei4200 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a massive foreman fan. Usually I’d say George would win over Tyson mainly because of their styles. I’m looking at the Frazier and Norton fight. BUT. A PRIME mike Tyson? Mike Tyson would knock out Frazier just like he did Marvis Frazier. And Tyson is a different animal altogether. Tyson also has bombs and if he hit big George. I believe he would wobble him just like Ron Lyle wobbled foreman except Tyson would finish the job. And Tyson ain’t no fool. Even though George has a strong chin and would push Tyson back to pummel him. I believe Tyson would use his speed and find a way to get in and land one.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a massive foreman fan. Usually I’d say George would win over Tyson mainly because of their styles. I’m looking at the Frazier and Norton fight. BUT. A PRIME mike Tyson? Mike Tyson would knock out Frazier just like he did Marvis Frazier. And Tyson is a different animal altogether. Tyson also has bombs and if he hit big George. I believe he would wobble him just like Ron Lyle wobbled foreman except Tyson would finish the job. And Tyson ain’t no fool. Even though George has a strong chin and would push Tyson back to pummel him. I believe Tyson would use his speed and find a way to get in and land one.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a massive foreman fan. Usually I’d say George would win over Tyson mainly because of their styles. I’m looking at the Frazier and Norton fight. BUT. A PRIME mike Tyson? Mike Tyson would knock out Frazier just like he did Marvis Frazier. And Tyson is a different animal altogether. Tyson also has bombs and if he hit big George. I believe he would wobble him just like Ron Lyle wobbled foreman except Tyson would finish the job. And Tyson ain’t no fool. Even though George has a strong chin and would push Tyson back to pummel him. I believe Tyson would use his speed and find a way to get in and land one.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a massive foreman fan. Usually I’d say George would win over Tyson mainly because of their styles. I’m looking at the Frazier and Norton fight. BUT. A PRIME mike Tyson? Mike Tyson would knock out Frazier just like he did Marvis Frazier. And Tyson is a different animal altogether. Tyson also has bombs and if he hit big George. I believe he would wobble him just like Ron Lyle wobbled foreman except Tyson would finish the job. And Tyson ain’t no fool. Even though George has a strong chin and would push Tyson back to pummel him. I believe Tyson would use his speed and find a way to get in and land
@jayembrown5395
@jayembrown5395 2 жыл бұрын
Marvis and joe were 2 different fighters, that's like saying Ali's grandson is the greatest of this generation simply because he is related to ali
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
Anitelu Falemei ...Marvis Frazier wasn't anywhere near his father, Smokin' Joe! Tyson would have never knock out out the latter.
@salvadorw.empent2778
@salvadorw.empent2778 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people compare Mike Tyson to Joe Frazier or Marciano swarming style but you can't compare Tyson to them his defense was so much tighter and his combinations and speed would've been just too much for a young foremanIf a Jimmy Young could beat Forman and Ron Lye could drop him in their fight definitely Mike Tyson takes a young foreman out within 3 to 4 rounds
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
wouldnt take that long 2nd and everything u said is right these crazy followers dont watch just say mike was like joe it's easy to see they was nothing alike
@steveh7108
@steveh7108 2 жыл бұрын
I had to scroll down forever to find someone that I agree with that Mike Tyson would take Foreman. I have no clue why everyone thinks George Foreman would take Tyson in their Primes. Muhammad Ali took George Foreman. Mike Tyson is even faster and harder hitting then Muhammad Ali and he's got a better defense. Tyson would absolutely take George Foreman.
@jayembrown5395
@jayembrown5395 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveh7108 ali and Mike had 2 totally different styles, look at floyd patterson (a swarmer) he got dominated by sonny liston (a slugger), look at frazier and foreman (swarmer vs slugger), styles make fights, slugger>swarmer
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveh7108 cause they mental and don't watch matches is why they pick george the man was way to slow and had no defense
@jayembrown5395
@jayembrown5395 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman if you say stuff like "styles don't make fights dummy" you're making yourself look like a dummy, you just pretty much told me you know nothing about boxing, anybody with any boxing knowledge knows that floyd had the peek a boo style mastered better than Mike, Mike just had more power and I never said floyd and joe were the same so that's strike 2 dummy, learn to read
@robertkulikowski6380
@robertkulikowski6380 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
yea and wouldnt last long anybody voted for George is crazy or blind maybe both
@mr.b9613
@mr.b9613 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman fanboys, Foreman would do him the way he did frazier
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@mr.b9613 yup and doing that would get george koed try watching matches instead of saying silly quotes
@seanwilliams2111
@seanwilliams2111 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson had better speed than foreman but I don't know. If that would have made a difference so I'll go with big George to be the victor in the end!
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened heshowed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the dumb blind quote of mike was like joe even though they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often See how you shouldn't repeat quotes that make no sense next time watch before you speak
@1Blkkato
@1Blkkato Жыл бұрын
most of tysons knockouts came from his hook to the body then uppercut, tyson would not be able to really get off on foreman without taking a pounding. a young strong and mean foreman for my vote
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had one of the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe match cause mike fought nothing like him So no mike wouldnt take many shots it was stupid to say he would
@fenderboy68
@fenderboy68 Жыл бұрын
@@ascendediam WTF are you talking about????
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@@fenderboy68 WTF are you talking about????
@npaconstruction
@npaconstruction 10 ай бұрын
he obviously wasnt the youngest heavyweight in the world on accident
@joeyjoey1154
@joeyjoey1154 2 жыл бұрын
I too say foremen and I don't think Tyson will able to handle foreman bombs , no way
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
I too say you dumb I agree mike wouldnt handle george shots cause he wouldnt be getting hit much
@jaylondegrate7978
@jaylondegrate7978 2 жыл бұрын
That Muslim say he don't smoke Marijuana but he clearly got the shivers and itches🤔
@BM-vl6bo
@BM-vl6bo 2 жыл бұрын
I got Tyson in his prime. No one beats Tyson in his prime.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
why would anybody pick george is crazy he was to slow and sloopy wouldnt land much
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
B M ...James "Buster" Douglas, February 11th, 1990. Tokyo, Japan. Tyson was knocked out in the tenth round by Douglas.
@BM-vl6bo
@BM-vl6bo Жыл бұрын
@@brucescott4261 I said in his prime pal. Tyson was not there mentally. Key work is PRIME
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
@@BM-vl6bo ...Tyson was twenty-three years old, when he fought Douglas. What is your version of prime? Tyson was knocked by a journeyman, who was older than your boy, and also ranked number seven. You're making excuses for Tyson.
@BM-vl6bo
@BM-vl6bo Жыл бұрын
@@brucescott4261 my version of prime is when your in your combination of best physical and mental shape. Most legendary boxing trainers say boxing is 70-90% mental. His mental was not there, hence not in his prime
@tbolin25
@tbolin25 2 жыл бұрын
50 year old Foreman wins heavyweight title. 50 year old Tyson stand up comedy in the guise of wisdom.....LOL!!!!!
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
50 year old Foreman wins heavyweight title. 50 year old Tyson stand up comedy in the guise of wisdom..... LOL!!!!!
@nicecutie
@nicecutie Жыл бұрын
mike tyson would have made george miss a lot of punches and then tyson would go in for the kill. george has a chance but not a good chance at beating tyson.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
No chance to slow and easy to read
@fenderboy68
@fenderboy68 Жыл бұрын
LOL, Tyson wouldn't even get in close enough for his uppercut. Big George would rock him with his right cross when Tyson walks in and then start the beating on little Mike.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@@fenderboy68 the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had one of the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe match cause mike fought nothing like him So no mike wouldnt take many shots it was stupid to say he would
@Denner771
@Denner771 3 жыл бұрын
There ain't nobody who could beat a prime 20-year-old Mike Tyson. Tyson was lightning fast and in his prime, he was hard to hit.
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 3 жыл бұрын
Ali - ultra-lightning fast!
@ronjones3184
@ronjones3184 3 жыл бұрын
Ali and George both would've fucked tyson up......
@yasin_ucar
@yasin_ucar 3 жыл бұрын
Shut the fuck up with this shit no most of the great heavyweights would not just beat knock hım the fuck out and thats what happend when he fougt all time great heavyweights he got knocked the fuck out he only beat out of shape 40 yo Larry Holmes other than that Lennox,Holyfield,Buster all of them knocked hım the fuck out
@Djuane
@Djuane 3 жыл бұрын
Ali was faster, and no way would tyson evade every single bomb a young george foreman would throw. Ron lyle found out you cant trade blows with big george
@gauismaximus595
@gauismaximus595 3 жыл бұрын
@@yasin_ucar Bro Tyson went longer against Lennox Lewis than Klitschko and Morrison.
@fedecereda
@fedecereda 2 жыл бұрын
i got george too, but how in the world the mike that fought douglas ,was prime mike , come on
@marjansarec2337
@marjansarec2337 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman his chin was his defense. look at the Hollyfield fight and tell me how can someone take these punches and keep standing
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
U got him to lose
@lylesuperfoot
@lylesuperfoot 2 жыл бұрын
sam peters should start training again , he would ko most of the bums today , including Joshua lol.
@tommasoscarpellini14
@tommasoscarpellini14 3 жыл бұрын
Foreman tutta la vita
@santhoshkumarkumar4438
@santhoshkumarkumar4438 2 жыл бұрын
Iron mike
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
yea how would George win to slow
@npaconstruction
@npaconstruction 10 ай бұрын
but bags dont hit back
@michaelevans9620
@michaelevans9620 Жыл бұрын
Crazy BS! Tyson from '85-'89 was the greatest heavyweight of all time. I like Forman as a person. Tyson is a lowlife. But, Tyson's speed neutralized all big men. Tyson is one of the greatest experts of the game.
@tavo.B
@tavo.B 2 жыл бұрын
Even old George would have took Tyson. And Tyson knew it. Don King got Foreman to sign up for the fight for 5million but Tyson turned it down.
@tavo.B
@tavo.B 2 жыл бұрын
What quote are you about? Watch the Letterman interview in '89. George publicly announced he signed to fight Tyson when Don King brought him the paper. Watch another Don King interview where he says Mike told him "if you like George that much, then you should fight him" Tyson himself said he was in the same mould as Liston. And so was Foreman. BUT after the Ali loss, George changed his style and became a wiser, fighter. He went 12 rounds with Holyfield. When Tyson got knocked out and bit his ear losing both times. And that's at age 42. George was the hardest hitting fighter of ALL TIME. Holyfield said it.
@tavo.B
@tavo.B 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman dont take my word on it. Look up Letterman foreman interview. And also look up Holyfield on foreman. At around the 8 or 9 minute mark he says "Foreman maybe the hardest puncher ever" his opinion matters because he fought and knocked out a lot of great champs including ttson twice. Tyson was like Conor McGregor- an iconic fighter but a flash in a pan. Sonny Liston was undefeated for 9.5yrs before Ali. While Tyson only made it 5year. Tyson wasn't in the same league as foreman.
@tavo.B
@tavo.B 2 жыл бұрын
Who did Mike beat? Old Larry Holmes and Spinks? C'mon. He told to the greats of the era. Lennox, Holyfield. And Holyfields opinion means nothing? He faught them both. And was a great champion. What makes your word more valuable than his. If he said foreman was the hardest hitter. I'm taking his word. Remember his 'anywhere punch'? Foreman beat far greater fighters like Joe Frazier and Kenny Norton and all those guys in the golden age of boxing. Actually demolished them all. And won the championship at 45 again. Tyson was past his prime at 25
@tavo.B
@tavo.B 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Holmes was a legend but he was 38 when he lost to Tyson. C'mon. He also lost twice to berbick who I do not rate so highly either. Guess he was just not in his prime anymore. But he was a great fighter. And holyfield beat Holmes. I rate holyfield highly as a fighter. Beat alot of greats and I'd take his word when he says someone was the best .
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman Жыл бұрын
Foreman was a beast! Mike was great but Foreman! WOE! I have to go with FOREMAN. He almost beat Holyfield when he was an old man! George would've beat Holyfield in his prime! Think about what George did when he fought Holyfield. George in his prime would've won! He ALMOST kicked his ass as an old man! What are you on about? lol
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches why would you go for a type that never beat Mike your weird
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman 4 ай бұрын
​@ascendediam no
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 4 ай бұрын
@@guitarttimman the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense at the time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance george would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement Nobody has anybody George fought that can compare to mike so how is it they said he would beat Mike where does it come from its based off of nothing which is odd
@npaconstruction
@npaconstruction 10 ай бұрын
once it turns to politics , its over
@markussivertsenhagen742
@markussivertsenhagen742 Жыл бұрын
1:26 legg seg Amalie
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind that Sharif and Vasquez pick Tyson but there points are trash and it shows that they are not true students of the game of boxing . Even Angelo Dundee said George over Tyson and Liston any day he also said that if George had his younger self mixed with his older self than who could beat him. George was faster than he looked and he really didn’t waist his punches
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Even cus didnt say that dumb follower thats a myth and no george wasn't fast and did waste punches alot liar both son and george was easy to read and slow Even if cus said that dont mean mike would have to lose just cause a person said so u dummy
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman you don’t know shit about boxing
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sldumas1983 you don't know shit about boxing
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind that Sharif and Vasquez pick Tyson but there points are trash and it shows that they are not true students of the game of boxing . Even Angelo Dundee said George over Tyson and Liston any day he also said that if George had his younger self mixed with his older self than who could beat him. George was faster than he looked and he really didn’t waist his punches
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind that Sharif and Vasquez pick Tyson but there points are trash and it shows that they are not true students of the game of boxing . Even Angelo Dundee said George over Tyson and Liston any day he also said that if George had his younger self mixed with his older self than who could beat him. George was faster than he looked and he really didn’t waist his punches
@user-dz4ty5tj7q
@user-dz4ty5tj7q Жыл бұрын
People saying Foreman would win against Tyson but no to Liston against Tyson. Just search what Foreman had to say about Liston. Liston is perhaps the most underrated HW of all time. And just see what Ali said about Liston in comparison to Foreman. No contest. Even in death Liston is disrespected
@bobbywise2313
@bobbywise2313 Жыл бұрын
I think prime Sonny beats both of them. Sonny had the hardest jab of any heavyweight. Plus he had incredible reach.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@@bobbywise2313 doesn't matter what your messed up mind thinks video proves you wrong mike fought a man named lorenzo he moved around lateral but had a basic come forward slow jab he was destroyed cause of it dont believe me watch the match Son was easy to read and was more sloopy and had that same basic come forward jab it's no way you can really see him and lorenzo and cant see lorenz was more advanced and act like you see son was more advanced then him and think you see son able to survive its obvious son would be destroyed
@FootballLad
@FootballLad 3 жыл бұрын
AJ
@bradfordlee7384
@bradfordlee7384 2 жыл бұрын
Ron Lyle put George Foreman on the mat twice. But Big George got back up and ended up winning the fight by knocking out Lyle. I don't think Foreman would get up from a Mike Tyson punch. And Mike Tyson probably won't get up from a Foreman punch either. But I believe Tyson would connect first because he's quicker than Foreman. So I'll have to put my money on Tyson.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
wrong mike wouldnt never get dropped by George he was to slow George would get up twice but the 3rd time no
@bradfordlee7384
@bradfordlee7384 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman I didn't say he would get dropped. And I said George Foreman wouldn't get up from a Mike Tyson punch. You didn't read carefully.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradfordlee7384 I did read if I responded to u
@bradfordlee7384
@bradfordlee7384 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman And didn't read correctly and responded irresponsibly.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradfordlee7384 And didnt read correctly and responded irresponsibly.
@Sluggerpuncher
@Sluggerpuncher 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman kill tyson 1 round
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
troll
@Sluggerpuncher
@Sluggerpuncher 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman ur mom
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
ur mom
@TheSteveSteele
@TheSteveSteele 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman. Here’s why. Foreman beat fighters of all sizes. Tyson struggled with larger fighters. Foreman could take the punishment, which he displayed several times. Tyson, not as much. Love em both, but Foreman.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george dumb followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened heshowed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the dumb blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often See how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes and george wasn't tough he was hurt by Ron 1st ron all over the place close to end and almost fell and hurt every round after
@johndoe-cb5ck
@johndoe-cb5ck 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Yea he loses
@MrToband
@MrToband 2 жыл бұрын
What about Marciano vs. Tyson in their primes.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
stop trolling
@fitzgeraldanthony9333
@fitzgeraldanthony9333 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson by Homicide.
@bobbywise2313
@bobbywise2313 Жыл бұрын
Tyson is too big and too powerful. Sorry but the Rock would have been a cruiserweight today. He would be an all time great at that weight though.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@@bobbywise2313 and mike was to fast and good at defense to be beat by son so you make no sense troll
@Namdor2012
@Namdor2012 Жыл бұрын
Foreman ate smaller fighter like Frazer and Ken Norton for breakfast...He just pushed and closed them down, broke their rhythm, smothered them with the left and destroyed them, Tyson would go down in around 4 rounds and never wake up...Foreman only lost in his prime due to hot conditions and gassing, just a monster....Tyson couldn't beat Lennox or Holyfield, overrated he only fought retired fork lift drivers in his "Prime"...Yet he said after Prison he was in his best shape, Lewis was older than Tyson and demolished him....
@roamingwildcampers2745
@roamingwildcampers2745 Жыл бұрын
Yep, Tyson was bling and overrated, good fighter but Foreman was on another level of brutal, and powerful with a tough chin..
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
​@@roamingwildcampers2745nope not in days weak to hard shots
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
joe fought in a straight line moved head to much and up and down threw jabs and straight hooks did 2 punch combos Tyson fought in a straight line bkut once close punched from angles moved head around not just simple like joe didnt throw much jabs threw wide hooks jumped into punches when he was a distance from the person mike did this tyson would dodge while doin combos joe didnt do that ether did 4 or 5 punch combos mike did this joe fought from close range mike was mid range mike was a counter puncher joe wasnt a counter puncher he was a ducking and then punch take 1 and give one Not similar at all see how you shouldn't repeat quotes other followes who dont watch say so you had no reason to say a joe vs george match as it made no sense to compare
@Namdor2012
@Namdor2012 Жыл бұрын
@@ascendediamyou wrote a senseless essay.....Tyson himself said " No way I would fight that monster!!!"..And Tyson's beloved smart trainer who built him up said- "It's SUICIDE against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier," - Cus D’Amato ...Who did Tyson beat..? Did he beat Lennox Lewis who was 1 year older than him ? Did he beat Holyfield who was 4 years older than him? You are sucked into the hype....Tyson was a great boxer but up against Foreman as the vast majority of professional boxers and trainers have stated in this videos and elsewhere even Tyson himself, TYSON WOULD LOSE...
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@@Namdor2012 the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches to bad you people who pretend to be blind and slow cant admit the truth You cant go over this breakdown of the matches cause its all true so your wrong and you had no reason to say that george would best a person he wouldn't even land on enough or one that gave Mike trouble Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance you dont have to like it but its fact geoege would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement
@outdoorluxuries2887
@outdoorluxuries2887 2 жыл бұрын
George foreman would make easy work of Mike Tyson
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened heshowed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the dumb blind quote of mike was like joe even though they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often See how you shouldn't repeat quotes that make no sense next time watch before you speak
@bradjoneez201
@bradjoneez201 Жыл бұрын
What’s a good way for a shorter fighter to beat foreman?
@SpannerzIsHappy
@SpannerzIsHappy Жыл бұрын
​@@ascendediam You're fucking delusional it's crazy 🤣 foreman beats any version of Mike. period
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
​@SpannerzIsHappy the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches nothing to do with height
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
I see Tyson winning but not knocking George out, maybe stumbling him a few times.
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman styles makes fights, even Tommy Morrison hits harder than Ron but George was walking down Morrison and taking every he threw at him
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Young George would have taken Morrison's head off. George was way passed his prime.
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman He knocked out Ron Lyle so what are you even talking about, lol.
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman So by using your logic you believe that Ron Lyle hit harder than Tommy Morrison right? LOL. Also Fury knocked out Wilder but didn't even wobble Otto Wallin so this means that Otto Wallin would easily beat Wilder? Yes styles make fights and great fighters have off days but still manage to win.
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman What are you even talking about? You seem to be struggling with basic reading and comprehension and if you think that someone winning a fight by KO is insignificant I really can't take you seriously. We're not talking about Tommy's ability to avoid attacks, we're talking about George Foreman being able to withstand multiple hard punches for 12 rounds which would have KO'd 99% of heavyweights but Lyle who doesn't hit as hard as Tommy managed to knock him down in his prime with far less punches. Not once did I say that styles were the ONLY thing that matters. GTFO with your nonsense.
@steveh7108
@steveh7108 2 жыл бұрын
How can anyone be picking George Foreman for this. George Foreman was beat by Muhammad Ali. Mike Tyson is just as fast as Muhammad Ali and has even more moves and harder punches than Muhammad Ali. I picked Mike Tyson to win over George Foreman all day long.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Cause they crazy is why he wouldnt land punches to slow and sloopy
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
Steve H ...Tyson wasn't faster than Ali. Explain!
@OldSchoolBoxing1
@OldSchoolBoxing1 2 жыл бұрын
I love Tyson, but im picking Foreman too.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
U pick him to lose me to way to slow with no defense no way he could win that way
@michaeltaylor8166
@michaeltaylor8166 2 жыл бұрын
If Cus was in the corner with Tyson I believe Tyson would have took him out to sleep.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't u george was slow and easy to read never would land much
@SpannerzIsHappy
@SpannerzIsHappy Жыл бұрын
​@@cmoneytheman Tyson would never beat foreman
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
@SpannerzIsHappy the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches nothing to do with height
@SpannerzIsHappy
@SpannerzIsHappy Жыл бұрын
@@ascendediam Cope harder
@SpannerzIsHappy
@SpannerzIsHappy Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman Foreman beats Tyson
@Charismaniac
@Charismaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson ran from Foreman. He was terrified of him.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong dumb follower that's a myth
@bobbywise2313
@bobbywise2313 Жыл бұрын
I have gone back on forth on this one just as I have prime Holmes vs. Prime Foreman. Both Tyson and Foreman had short primes. For Mike it was 87 to 88. For George it was perhaps 73 till the fight in Zaire. George was not the same after that Ali fight. He was psychologically devasted by that fight. Mike began a decline shortly after the Spinks fight. Firing Rooney was the beginning of the end for Mike. So for this fight I would have to take the George of Frazier 1 and Kenny Norton against the Tyson of Holmes and Spinks. Yes we could add the Berbick fight also. This could go one of two ways. Mike could effectively cover using his peak a boo defense and counter with brutal body shots and then come up stairs. The double hook was his best punch. If successful he puts Foreman away inside of four rounds. Or Foreman would use his reach and jab Tyson to help set up huge punches. He would push and wrestle Mike around to keep range. I must point out with prime George it did not matter if what he hit. I saw him knock a guy across the ring by hitting him on the shoulder. He could connect to the side Mike's head and knock his guard down with brutal punches. What Ali did in Africa was something no other fighter could have done. Even though the majority of his punches were not connecting some did. And even the punches to the arms and hips would devastate most fighters. Ali had super speed and skill to counter with very straight fast shots to George's face to further keep wear on him. But I can't think of any other fighter who would have survived those first 4 rounds like Ali did. Of course Mike would not try a Rope A Dope or be an easy target like Frazier. But the question is would it matter if George was clubbing him. Even punches that hit gloves or shoulders do serious damage. I could easily see this either way and both would be capable of knocking the other out. And there is no way this goes beyond 6 rounds. One of the two will be counted out or be out on his feet forcing the ref to stop the contest. If forced to pick a winner I would go with George. But I would not put much money on it. I think a prime Sonny Liston could beat either though. His jab was one of the best ever.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches to bad you people who pretend to be blind and slow cant admit the truth You cant go over this breakdown of the matches cause its all true so your wrong and you had no reason to say that george would best a person he wouldn't even land on enough or one that gave Mike trouble Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance you dont have to like it but its fact geoege would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
joe fought in a straight line moved head to much and up and down threw jabs and straight hooks did 2 punch combos Tyson fought in a straight line bkut once close punched from angles moved head around not just simple like joe didnt throw much jabs threw wide hooks jumped into punches when he was a distance from the person mike did this tyson would dodge while doin combos joe didnt do that ether did 4 or 5 punch combos mike did this joe fought from close range mike was mid range mike was a counter puncher joe wasnt a counter puncher he was a ducking and then punch take 1 and give one Not similar at all see how you shouldn't repeat quotes other followes who dont watch say so you had no reason to say a joe vs george match as it made no sense to compare
@mixalismoraitis
@mixalismoraitis 2 жыл бұрын
I think Foreman would win
@jonhlisa7182
@jonhlisa7182 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman foreman
@jonhlisa7182
@jonhlisa7182 2 жыл бұрын
No foreman
@jonhlisa7182
@jonhlisa7182 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonhlisa7182 tyson
@jonhlisa7182
@jonhlisa7182 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman 💯
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
BIG GEORGE!!!
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Loses yea I know
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
BIG GEOEGE!!!
@yessirrr5182
@yessirrr5182 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Mike tyson would destroy anyone in his prime
@jayembrown5395
@jayembrown5395 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman because foreman timed his hits, look at him and frazier everytime frazier ducked under he would be hit with an uppercut or something similar, floyd patterson had the peek a boo style mastered better than tyson, tyson just had more power and look what happened to patterson when he fought liston (george's sparring partner)
@jayembrown5395
@jayembrown5395 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman styles make fights, foreman was a slugger, tyson was a swarmer, you should know sluggers counter swarmers
@jayembrown5395
@jayembrown5395 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman and you got that backwards, Mike always threw straights, jabs, etc and frazier threw hooks and where did I say Mike and floyd were exactly the same?, I made a point saying sluggers beat swarmers, please elaborate on where/how I said they were the same?
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayembrown5395 because foreman timed his hits, look at him and frazier everytime frazier ducked under he would be hit with an uppercut or something similar, floyd patterson had the peek a boo style mastered better than tyson, tyson just had more power and look what happened to patterson when he fought liston (george's sparring partner)
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayembrown5395 because foreman timed his hits, look at him and frazier everytime frazier ducked under he would be hit with an uppercut or something similar, floyd patterson had the peek a boo style mastered better than tyson, tyson just had more power and look what happened to patterson when he fought liston (george's sparring partner)
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman Жыл бұрын
I agree with this one. Most people are saying George. That is common sense. Mike was great, but George was the best. Now George would have a better chance against BL. George was a beast!
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches common sense is mike wins
@lylesuperfoot
@lylesuperfoot 2 жыл бұрын
foreman all wrong for mike,
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
u mean mike was for him
@npaconstruction
@npaconstruction 10 ай бұрын
tyson would drop foreman like holmes
@markonarco4007
@markonarco4007 Жыл бұрын
George foreman’s mummy style would’ve completely snuffed out Tyson’s LIGHTING like attacks. A lot of people don’t pay attention to his strategy but he completely prevents attacks from ever happening because of the the way he throws people around and shoved at their arms, and foreman is stronger than Tyson. I’m imagining Tyson shifting off line at jump speed for his death combo but then Foreman grabs Tyson and throws him right back onto center line and then rips his guard open and sends him to the shadow realm.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches to bad you people who pretend to be blind and slow cant admit the truth You cant go over this breakdown of the matches cause its all true so your wrong and you had no reason to say that george would best a person he wouldn't even land on enough or one that gave Mike trouble Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance you dont have to like it but its fact geoege would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement
@robertg305
@robertg305 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman!
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Yea he loses
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
George Edward Foreman, Sr. would have knocked out Michael Gerald Tyson, inside of two rounds at the most, PERIOD!!!
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
George Edward Foreman, Sr would have knocked out Michael Gerald Tyson, inside of two rounds at the most by knockout.
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
how would George win if he wouldnt land crazy idiot
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Scott ...Well, well, well!!! LOL!!! cmoneytheman, the ultimate Tysonite, trying convince me and the rest of the boxing world about Big George versus Iron Mike. You already know my answer! You're not a boxing historian. So, why are you wasting your time! Dont you have something else better to do?
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Scott ...Well, well, well!!! LOL!!! cmoneytheman, the ultimate Tysonite, trying convince me and the rest of the boxing world about Big George versus Iron Mike. You already know my answer! You're not a boxing historian. So, why are you wasting your time! Dont you have something else better to do?
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Scott ...Well, well, well!!! LOL!!! cmoneytheman, the ultimate Tysonite, trying convince me and the rest of the boxing world about Big George versus Iron Mike. You already know my answer! You're not a boxing historian. So, why are you wasting your time! Dont you have something else better to do?
@williamwest9204
@williamwest9204 2 жыл бұрын
George by 9 or 10 round KO.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
George by 9th or 10th round KO.
@geoffreyparsons4353
@geoffreyparsons4353 5 ай бұрын
This used to be much longer and the consensus was for foreman
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 5 ай бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense at the time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance george would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement Nobody has anybody George fought that can compare to mike so how is it they said he would beat Mike where does it come from its based off of nothing which is odd
@ryanarch9934
@ryanarch9934 Жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson my all time favorite. That being said George Foreman is one of the toughest strongest men to ever walk the face of the earth. Both in prime could go either way. Older Foreman gets beat by decision. Morrison took Foreman the distance and same as Holyfield.
@seanhurley6866
@seanhurley6866 Жыл бұрын
The Mike Tyson that beat Trevor berbick versus prime George Foreman you got to go with prime Mike
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage they say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when they say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance george would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement Nobody has anybody George fought that can compare to mike so how is it they said he would beat Mike where does it come from its based off of nothing which is odd
@thedonkilluminati96
@thedonkilluminati96 Жыл бұрын
A reason why ali told foremen to avoid tyson
@earth7551
@earth7551 Жыл бұрын
No cus'd amato knew Foreman what annihilate tyson coming in with those lethal uppercuts And Foreman had the superior chin and get off the canvas to win a fight look at Lyle's fight against Ali Foreman lost due to exhaustion no cause he was seriously hurt tyson never gets off the canvas to win a fight not ever
@cardosuxxxxxx
@cardosuxxxxxx Жыл бұрын
​@@earth7551 😅
@earth7551
@earth7551 Жыл бұрын
@@cardosuxxxxxx U agree I know 👍👍
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 күн бұрын
@@earth7551 left out Ron who hurt George 1st round with the first strong punch,and mike never got off the floor since he had to be hit mutiple times just to get their the man was ungodly tough,you slow follower
@earth7551
@earth7551 2 күн бұрын
@@ascendediam what the hell are talking about tyson never won a fight after getting his ass knocked down even against journeyman that's what I mean Foreman got up like a gladiator to k.o Ron out tyson just can't overcome such things he quits
@pudgeezudgee2309
@pudgeezudgee2309 2 жыл бұрын
george foreman .
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
weird
@kaizerknightshadekobra231
@kaizerknightshadekobra231 Жыл бұрын
Anyone that picks Tyson over Foreman don't know boxing
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had one of the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe match cause mike fought nothing like him So no anybody who picks george needs to watch the matches i said
@mikewang8874
@mikewang8874 2 жыл бұрын
Prime Tyson has a chance for sure...must get KO by round 3-4.Otherwise Foreman.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
wrong Mike wins it is no chance
@jamessmith-iq3ow
@jamessmith-iq3ow 2 жыл бұрын
@Dynamite stop trolling idiot both was to slow and easy to ready stop saying dumb stuff you read online
@joshuarichards9365
@joshuarichards9365 6 ай бұрын
Tysons style wouldnt do so well against foreman, he'd have to tire foreman out then go inside and win. But theres a small chance of that happening
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 6 ай бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense at the time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance george would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement Nobody has anybody George fought that can compare to mike so how is it they said he would beat Mike where does it come from its based off of nothing which is odd
@simonemiglioli1165
@simonemiglioli1165 3 ай бұрын
Tyson will go unanime decision against foreman.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 3 ай бұрын
@@simonemiglioli1165 ko 1st round foreman was to basic and slow
@AleXSports187
@AleXSports187 3 ай бұрын
​@@ascendediam🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@AleXSports187
@AleXSports187 3 ай бұрын
​@@ascendediamMike went the distance against much weaker opponents but of course he knocked out an estimated top 10 heavyweight in just one round who had never been knocked out in his career. Tyson fan boys are hilarious 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂
@JBthree24
@JBthree24 Жыл бұрын
That’s if Foreman could hit Tyson…
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong Look it up all these matches since you like to keep repeating quotes that make no sense joe fought in a straight line moved head to much and up and down threw jabs and straight hooks did 2 punch combos Tyson fought in a straight line bkut once close punched from angles moved head around not just simple like joe didnt throw much jabs threw wide hooks jumped into punches when he was a distance from the person mike did this tyson would dodge while doin combos joe didnt do that ether did 4 or 5 punch combos mike did this joe fought from close range mike was mid range mike was a counter puncher joe wasnt a counter puncher he was a ducking and then punch take 1 and give one
@johncena-ng8qz
@johncena-ng8qz Жыл бұрын
Foreman wins
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had one of the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe match cause mike fought nothing like him So no mike wouldnt lose it was stupid of you to say that watch matches
@kolokoytv666
@kolokoytv666 2 жыл бұрын
Big G all the way
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
to lose yea
@jwjxhdjxsns
@jwjxhdjxsns 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman George would win easily, even Cus knew that. Stop riding Tyson already
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwjxhdjxsns how would he win dummy and no cus didnt say that stop being dumb already
@ascendediam
@ascendediam 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwjxhdjxsns George would win easily, even Cus knew that. Stop riding Tyson already
@mhkeuns
@mhkeuns Жыл бұрын
They both are intimidating as hell, but I see George pushing back Mike with both of his tree trunk arms not allowing Mike to get close to unleash his combo. I see a push or two and a sledge hammer jab with a cross that will send Mike in a another dimension. Same fate as Joe Frazier. but end will come even quicker because Mike wouldn’t keep getting up to get beaten up some more.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage they say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time for his style in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance george would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement Nobody has anybody George fought that can compare to mike so how is it they said he would beat Mike where does it come from its based off of nothing which is odd😊
@mohdshafiq2205
@mohdshafiq2205 2 жыл бұрын
George foreman , he so strong
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman 2 жыл бұрын
Stop trolling nobody beat Mike by being strong only
@gregjohnston455
@gregjohnston455 2 ай бұрын
What would Tyson do differently than Joe Frazier in a fight with Foreman? Unless he did something drastically different, it would be the same result that Frasier got.
@KIDhot247
@KIDhot247 Ай бұрын
you can't compare bruce lee with sammo hung....
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Ай бұрын
​@@KIDhot247that's a troll follower who never seen either
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Ай бұрын
joe fought in a straight line moved head to much and up and down threw jabs and straight hooks did 2 punch combos Tyson fought in a straight line bkut once close punched from angles moved head around not just simple like joe didnt throw much jabs threw wide hooks jumped into punches when he was a distance from the person mike did this tyson would dodge while doin combos joe didnt do that ether did 4 or 5 punch combos mike did this joe fought from close range mike was mid range mike was a counter puncher joe wasnt a counter puncher he was a ducking and then punch take 1 and give one Not similar at all see how you shouldn't repeat quotes other followes who dont watch say so you had no reason to say a joe vs george match as it made no sense to compare
@gregjohnston455
@gregjohnston455 Ай бұрын
@@ascendediam it's just an honest question, I didn't repeat any quotes. I've seen Mike Tyson's fights. But I haven't watched Joe Frazier's fights nearly as much, mainly just his losses to George Foreman. If Tyson fought Foreman, he would have to get past that defense. Foreman just held Frasier back and bombed away.
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Ай бұрын
@@gregjohnston455 joe fought in a straight line moved head to much and up and down threw jabs and straight hooks did 2 punch combos Tyson fought in a straight line bkut once close punched from angles moved head around not just simple like joe didnt throw much jabs threw wide hooks jumped into punches when he was a distance from the person mike did this tyson would dodge while doin combos joe didnt do that ether did 4 or 5 punch combos mike did this joe fought from close range mike was mid range mike was a counter puncher joe wasnt a counter puncher he was a ducking and then punch take 1 and give one It's always been odd to even compare the 2 since they fought nothing alike Joe honestly looks very basic and flawed his whole era does compared to 80s
@rokmin8550
@rokmin8550 Жыл бұрын
Mike was a terror in his prime but if anyone had the right style to beat him it would be big George. He was just too strong and was such a heavy hitter that I think he had the perfect style to beat any of the "swarming" fighters, (Marciano, Frazier, Tyson, Dempsey) and he could take a punch too if Mike did land. There's a Foreman fight here on youtube of a fighter (I can't remember who) who was fighting a post Norton Foreman and in his corner he said to his trainers "you gotta stop this, this guy is going to put me in the hospital"
@ascendediam
@ascendediam Жыл бұрын
the young george def was weaker then his old ver u can see he had no real def in his young days dwight fought like a better def version of dwight used head movement and angles so if joe used that same style he could have put down george followers got mutiple points which was shown to be flawed george height is advantage pushes means he dominates his power was to much uppercuts and iabs keep take a person out fast swammers lose fast dwight showed if joe used the same defense he would have beat george cause I told u young george couldnt take damage even close to the old ver and dwight was a better swammer then joe didnt used his block good u have to use angles to make George wide punches miss and he made him miss often and dwight blocked often joe didnt show these same def skills they never bring up dwight and act like the match never happened he showed that dumb flawed quote of all swammers lose is crap and folks still say it I dont know why dwight only lost cause he was tired he did better then joes both matches dwight only lost cause he was tired he was winning rounds george said for dwight he said he had trouble hittin him even tho george was taller then him and used the jabs another advantage yall say works for george dwight showed height and coming in like joe did didnt matter tom showed punches wide like tyson and hitting quick punches would show a effect on George mike fought Smith who was slow and strong like George u weird people will say but he wasnt strong as George why do that matter as if if he had been as strong he would land no cause he was still slow why is it everytime we make the point of who mike fought that was comparable to George like smith and trever who did pushes yall say it's wrong when it's on video showing trever did pushes and smith was slow and strong like George but when yall say the blind quote of mike was like joe even tho they fought nothing alike that's right its hypocritical why would mike who had the best defense of all time in hw lose to George and mike fought smith who was strong but faster then frank and frank was almost as slow as George and almost as strong and neither one could hit mike much so why would George another proof is berbick which I exposed George wouldnt be able to keep doing that to keep space berbick abused it keep getting countered George was slower then berbick dwight style like joe but better defense ali and jim fast punchers and defense frank real slow and almost as George smith slow and strong all people who show George would lose to mike if if nothing like I told u nobody to name who show George would even hit mike often And no it wouldn't be anything like a joe or ken match cause mine fought nothing like them so why say that makes no sense see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes you read like the man told you he was nothing like Joe so why keep saying it its on video all you have to do is watch So no it he wouldnt win try watching these matches to bad you people who pretend to be blind and slow cant admit the truth You cant go over this breakdown of the matches cause its all true so your wrong and you had no reason to say that george would best a person he wouldn't even land on enough or one that gave Mike trouble Mike had trouble with rangy fighters who fought from range who had lateral movement who had good hand speed and who had good defense They even say in the trever match which I described thats not the way to fight him he came nonstop forward Wasnt that the exact same way george fought? He didn't fight off the jab or use any lateral movement while fighting from distance you dont have to like it but its fact geoege would lose off of the breakdown and even said by the commentaries like I said Mike wasnt joe his weaknesses wasnt a uppercut that he just kept running through especially not a slow easy to read one from a person as slow as george it was like I said a person who fought from range and who used good lateral movement
@mostaphahidraoui9899
@mostaphahidraoui9899 Жыл бұрын
George is the best ever
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