Teddy Atlas: Call Me a Hater! George Foreman is Greater Than Mike Tyson (Part 11)

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Following his fighter Michael Moorer's loss in his fight against George Foreman, Teddy Atlas revealed details about Foreman's resilience and journey to redemption. Foreman had previously been forced into retirement due to a loss to Muhammad Ali. Then, he spent a decade away from boxing, focusing on his faith and grappling with his defeat. However, Foreman could not be at peace without confronting his past, and thus returned to the sport. Teddy, however, regretted being unprepared for Foreman's powerful right-handed punch that Moorer had expected but failed to parry in the championship bout. Foreman wasn't just fighting for the title, but was also battling to reclaim his life. As a result of his victory, Foreman faced his fears and shortcomings, which Teddy believes makes him greater than Mike Tyson.
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[@brians1481]

Max Kellerman once said something to the effect of ‘If you could combine the physical abilities of the 1970s George Foreman with the mind of the 1990s George Foreman, you’d have the greatest heavyweight of all time.”

[@zibtihaj3213]

Yeah but that is hypothetical… what ifs etc etc

[@elrifle24]

@@zibtihaj3213no it isn’t. He came back at 40 years old and won the belt again. He’s up there with the best ever.

[@KingKidGoku32794]

Max Kellerman knows boxing he knows what he's talking about

[@zibtihaj3213]

I never said he is not

[@zibtihaj3213]

Yeah but that is like he is saying..... if “ cus Dmato was alive , Tyson would have been this or that “, if “ Ali did not have the 3 years off, Frazier would not exist “ if this and if that and list goes on and on … what-ifs are endless …. History is what really was …not what could have been

[@spicypickle889]

Teddy's understanding of fight psychology transcends the sport.

[@truckermixtapes]

I 100% agree with him!!! Foreman was a monster with pure strength, the best chin in the sport, and a master of many styles.....

[@00Aroha]

Lol

[@Darkspotlight28]

Ali best chin

[@tizzletizzle8615]

Name two of those styles😅

[@therumbleinthejunglee]

@@tizzletizzle8615better than Tyson

[@tizzletizzle8615]

@@therumbleinthejunglee name the styles I want to know

[@andyhopkins4133]

George foreman and lennox lewis are both criminally underrated

[@DerrickWright-uz5or]

Been saying this lol

[@intellicogroup405]

They are both in my top 5 heavyweights of all time.

[@ddc2957]

It’s hard to find moderate views on Lewis in particular. People either really highly rate him or think he was good but nowhere close to greatness. Id say he’s 10-12 all time. Great fighter, can’t quite see him as all time elite.

[@DerrickWright-uz5or]

@@ddc2957 his was of the greatest Ali or frazier would've had a hard time with me he is too technical in the ring

[@ddc2957]

Sorry?

[@orlandomolina7192]

People forget Foreman was a bad man. Before the preacher, before the foreman grilled. George was a street guy. Very mean from what I’ve read. Triple OG

[@shawnj1966]

He was but I don't think he ever wanted to be. I think he did it because that's what people expected of him. He had a reputation to uphold. Who could've guessed that inside that angry persona, was a very funny, intelligent and humble man just waiting to get out.

[@zibtihaj3213]

He still IS … he is a fraud outside the ring … even Teddy has said that … Teddy is talking about in the ring … that’s different

[@orlandomolina7192]

@@zibtihaj3213 still a fraud why?

[@zibtihaj3213]

He acts like this bubbly friendly grandpa type but is certainly not . In Moore vs Forman legendary nights episode, Moore even said that Teddy told him that he is a fraud . Others have said similar things Teddy (and me also) … respect the guy’s accomplishments in the ring but that is beside the point . Foreman was so hurt by Ali’s defeat and lost identity that he just did not give up and found redemption in his comeback and did whatever it took even if it was putting on a fake persona

[@fighterck6241]

​@zibtihaj3213 It's possible, but there's nothing to prove it except assumptions from people who didn't really know him and were, at the time, building up their mental approach to beating him. Noone knows what anyone outside their circles, or even in their circles, is truly like. All we know is what people choose to express. But I'll say this, it is hard for people to keep the mask from slipping and Big George never has. And he's helped his people, so give him that.

[@Sldumas1983]

Foreman was from that old school of Boxing he knew he couldn’t let Moore feel that power yet so he let Moore do what he wanted and as soon as Moore felt so confident he stood right in Formans face and that’s a mistake, Forman showed him why he was the Original OG and lights out

[@ezsmith3765]

I really like what Teddy said at the end about how George ought to do something in the way of motivational speaking. God blessed Big George. George ought to pass some on now.

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

Believe it or not, he actually does do some motivational speaking. He just did one at I believe Brown University. It was great. He is such an incredible guy. People don't realize the amount of wisdom he possesses. He's like a super huge Yoda.

[@DougieFresh13]

Teddy told M.M. what was coming. His instructions between rounds are legendary. I've watched that fight a hundred times never gets old. Old P.P.V's are my T.V. Thanks KZbin for all of these classics! In fact it's on again. George's dream speech is legendary at the beginning of the HBO program. Follow that star!

[@meeknuggets4860]

Yeah I remember just before the 10th Teddy telling him that George was trying to set him up.

[@DougieFresh13]

100 percent.​@@meeknuggets4860

[@bennylevine387]

The only people who rank Tyson ahead of Foreman all time are people who aren't authorities on boxing. So, it's not really remarkable in any way that Teddy also believes what every other person in the sport believes.

[@donzibee6709]

Foreman is not just greater than Tyson. He is greater than Lennox and Holyfield.

[@staraptorflock3661]

Tyson was the greatest fighter of the 80s Foreman was never the greatest in any decade

[@bennylevine387]

@@staraptorflock3661 I guess good thing for me then that all-time greatness isn't based on arbitrary ten-year chunks. Tyson would be the fourth best heavyweight of the 70's by the way and Larry Holmes was the best of the 80's.

[@JamesHall415]

​@@bennylevine387You don't know that spongebob

[@JamesHall415]

What makes a person a authority of boxing??

[@adquinta]

I recall this fight vividly. It was really a young vs old with Michael Moore having much more to lose. I remember being very torn after this fight. George was at the top of his game and super popular. We all wanted to see him win and be champ but it was sad to see Moore lose. Moore was not a bad guy.

[@joojoobaw]

Agreed, but that “mean lean grilling machine” he sold us all was garbage. Great commercials tho 😂

[@ferich2001]

​@@joojoobawhey, it wasn't bad for like $99 bucks, but yea...😂

[@Priceluked]

@@joojoobaw To be fair they aren't that bad if you just clean them.

[@MiloZfunk]

Teddy broke down the Forman story perfectly like he said it was about redemption and fighting the ghosts of his past when he became heavy weight champion again and also the oldest to do it! Remarkable

[@blocc316]

I have to respect that .

[@simonjohn70]

stfu.... teddy is good advicer but at the same time he hates mike tyson mike tyson knocked him out

[@Mr.matthewRiley-rg5ig]

Ghosts of himself wasn't the same when he had the fro

[@Alan-71351]

Hell, Clay would've destroyed Foreman; Ali, who wasn't the fighter Clay was, beat the crap outta him. You youngsters who believe any of these clowns would've beat CLAY: WATCH THE VIDEOS OF THAT YOUNG MAN!

[@Mr.matthewRiley-rg5ig]

@ Alan his name is not clay his name is Muhammad Ali call him by his name

[@zambha5446]

Teddy is a very special person, what a dream it would be to have someone with this much wisdom in your life. Anyone who has had him in their life should feel blessed.

[@00Aroha]

Lol

[@BoxingLegends2024]

lame

[@Romy16.]

Wipe your mouth

[@BangBang-kq1kf]

Doin tricks on it

[@TheWarriors1515]

George Forman did have a better record and fought better people

[@isaiahedwards6586]

Facts, tyson was in jail by the time real competition came around (holyfield, bowe, lewis)

[@jsj31313jj]

Much better!

[@ChristianSt97]

@@isaiahedwards6586 wdym tyson fought ruddock twice, tony tucker, frank bruno, carl williams, tyrrel biggs ecc..

[@joojoobaw]

This is all true, but his grills sucked though

[@isaiahedwards6586]

@@ChristianSt97 B+ guys, not cream of the crop

[@princedlotti4181]

Thank you Teddy ! Our whole existence is based on redemption!

[@connshawnery6489]

Foreman is straight up one of the strongest heavyweights in boxing history, physically and mentally.

[@UTP504]

Physically, I think he’s probably the strongest, Foreman was a true freak of nature.

[@Darkspotlight28]

​@@UTP504sonny Liston earnie shavers

[@UTP504]

@@Darkspotlight28 Physically stronger?? No, Foreman was bigger and physically stronger than both of them.

[@Darkspotlight28]

@@UTP504 foreman himself sparred with sonny Liston and clearly said that was the only ones who punches could move him back and how hard he hit and earnie he never fought so I guess that's debatable but Ali who fought both said earnie shavers was the hardest hitter he ever fought.and said it without having to think a second about it. Meaning that's better evidence than what you presented you just saying it cause you think so TF

[@UTP504]

@@Darkspotlight28 😂, you’re obviously a damn fool and clearly didn’t read and comprehend the original post, it was about who’s the strongest physically first, then mentally, neither one of us mentioned punching power, yet here you are arguing like I did. Sure, is it possible Liston and Earnie punched harder than Foreman, yes, duh, especially Shavers his right hand was deadly and one of the hardest in heavyweight history. But back to the original point, AJ is physically stronger than Wilder, but he doesn’t hit harder than Wilder. Pay attention.

[@ArtSchoolParis]

I got Foreman over most fighters lol 😂

[@BrazenBreeds]

This is rather obvious to most boxing fans - Mike Tyson isn't the greatest heavyweight of all time but he is the most phenomenal. Foreman has more signature victories than Tyson but you can never deny the stunning abilities of the devastating 20 year old sensation.

[@kareemlayne9258]

Exactly

[@brrrrah6027]

Who is then?

[@BrazenBreeds]

@@brrrrah6027 #1 is Ali, #2 is Joe Louis.

[@brrrrah6027]

@@BrazenBreeds well, it depends on how you define "the greatest". The greatest sportsman? Ali for sure. The greatest boxer? Ali doesn’t even come close. He was a good boxer, without a doubt, but compared to Mayweather, Tyson etc., quality of his boxing was significantly lower. Boxers get stronger and technically superior with time. We shouldn’t blindly praise idols of the past only because they come from the past

[@intellicogroup405]

@@brrrrah6027Which great boxers in their prime did Tyson beat. Yes Tyson had great skill and a great style but you need a good resume to be great and you certainly have to had beaten other great fighters in their prime.

[@elrifle24]

People who truly study the history of Boxing know that George Foreman is greater than Tyson. To come back at 40 and win the title is something only the greats can do. And Tyson was never close to achieving that in any come back of his

[@mandolindleyroadshow706]

Nobody has done that. I think the only one who comes close is Roberto Duran, fighting competitively until he was almost 50.

[@fighterck6241]

Tyson was also much smaller and had to rely more on quickness and reflex to make his style work. Even with experience and skill, his style was always going to age more poorly than guys like Lewis, Foreman and even Ali whose reach could compensate for diminishing youth. I'm no Tyson fanboy, but Tyson did the best with what he had.

[@mandolindleyroadshow706]

​@@fighterck6241That's well stated. I think the same holds true for the Fraziers, Marcianos and Quarrys.

[@MarkLane-r5n]

My favourite fighter is Tyson but you are correct Forman was greater by a lot tbh

[@dblocknyc]

HOW is that being a hater ?? Any REAL Boxing fan knows beating Frazier is better than beating LHW Michael Spinks or 40yo Larry Holmes. Those are Tyson's best Wins. Tyson's best accolade is being youngest HE Champ, not who he beat 💯

[@williampowell3378]

Yeah

[@ddc2957]

He’s the youngest HA titleholder but Patterson was champion of the division at a younger age.

[@stephen7701]

I don’t think Tyson would last longer than 3 rounds if both would fight in their prime. Foreman is probably the most feared heavyweight in history with Sonny Liston. Also Foreman went 12 rounds in his 40's with Holyfield in his prime, While Tyson got Beat like drum to a stoppage in the 11th round.

[@xl576]

Young Tyson was a monster trained to beat bigger guys. He would surely go beyond 3.

[@williehudson4013]

Bro anyone who thinks Tyson in his prime is standing a chance against foreman in his prime they don't know what there talking about Tyson has a similar style similar to Joe Frazier that would have been a repeat of Joe Frazier George is to strong for Mike unless Mike Tyson knows how to kick George will tear his head off with them big punches

[@williehudson4013]

​@@xl576maybe if foreman was old I would give you that but on points but both in there prime Tyson would get demolished it would be a repeat of Joe Frazier all over again

[@xl576]

@@williehudson4013 not the same as Frazier in any way. Anyway shape or form. Two totally different fighters. Tyson before prison had a chance against foreman as any great.

[@JamesHall415]

​@williehudson4013 Joe Frazier was not as fast as tyson and tyson hit harder and threw better combinations. Cut it out little girl

[@gentlemanmob]

He's not lying even if it is biased

[@kareemlayne9258]

If it’s biased then there’s a flaw in what he’s saying

[@Bodyandmindsports]

No bs, George was better than tyson

[@gentlemanmob]

@@kareemlayne9258 still doesn't make it a lie

[@kareemlayne9258]

@@Bodyandmindsports I don’t think so

[@Chopping-it-up]

Mr. Atlas had major indigestion in this interview 😂

[@bosstoking2023]

It's hiccups.

[@ah2552]

1.Ali 2. Louis 3. Holmes 4. Jack Johnson 5. George Foreman

[@JoeyWashingtonHVC]

Great list

[@nicolas4you]

I will rate Liston an Lennox Lewis ahead of Louis and Jack Johnson@ah2552 the rest of your list is good

[@LeisureLife-qk1qj]

Teddy has been nothing but true and honest from what I've seen his entire career! One of a kind just like Cus!

[@truebeliever786]

I could hear Teddy talk for so long, he just drops such incredible gems of wisdom.

[@josephhylton7323]

im not ashamed to admit , that brought a tear ro my eye , that was beautiful

[@vladtv]

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[@Rambo0784]

Foreman had a great career, he was the most fearsome fighter of the golden era 70s - astonishing came back after decades to reach the top of boxing again - and he's still cooking now with his grills 😁

[@kaizerknightshadekobra231]

If Ali Hadn't Thought Of The Rope A Dope There Is No Doubt In My Mind George Would Be Called The Greatest. The way he destroyed Joe & Ken that gave Ali trouble both in 2 rounds. Unbelievable

[@candrew14]

Moorer kept walking into Foreman's right hand all night. The miracle is the fight lasted as long as it did.

[@larryloco70]

I think there wasn't a three knock-down rule, so George knew it was going to be a long fight and boxed accordingly.

[@candrew14]

Yes, I've heard George say this on many occasions - not sure l believe him 😊​@@larryloco70

[@jamesbaggett7223]

I know a fireman who is also a medical technician at Houston Methodist. He is by no means a small man. He met Foreman when he had a surgery done there and he says the man’s fist is the size of a cinder block.

[@bilogskii2216]

It's not even a bad take. Foreman beat Frazier twice and against Moorer at an advance age after retiring for a decade. Tyson unfortunately peaked too early and lost all his super matches against Holyfield and Lewis.

[@venicec3310]

Tyson never peaked he just lost focus

[@enybrooklyn5482]

You say super fights like he lost a lot to be honest only the 2 Holyfield fights was Super fights Lennox Lewis fight he was 37 past his prime Lennox was past his also wouldn’t call that a super fight🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dahabo-jb3vl]

Buster Douglas ! Oliver macall used to bust him up in sparring

[@bilogskii2216]

@@enybrooklyn5482 It doesn't matter if he fought Lewis at an old age. Let's say it doesn't count but it's as good as not fighting Lewis in the first place. At least George fought everyone during their prime or close to it (Ali was a special case of course since he wasn't allowed to box). A boxer who fought everyone and lost is still greater than a boxer who never fought anyone. Tyson will always be the most talented heavyweight of all time (him and Ali) but he was never the same after his jail time.

[@bilogskii2216]

@@venicec3310 You have a point there. We never see Tyson at his full potential.

[@allenphillips7082]

FOREMAN IS GREAT MAN...... AND MY RESPECT LEVEL FOR MR. ATLAS HAS REACHED NEW HEIGHTS.... ALL GREAT MEN... FOREMAN, ALI, TYSON, MOORE AND ATLAS....

[@Jaso839]

I've lost count how many times I've watched the Foreman - Lyle fight. Sheer barbarism.

[@johnniblueeyes2786]

Watch Lyle v. Shavers that was insane.

[@Yette]

One of the happiest sports memories, Big George dropping that right hand and Moorer falling like a Sequoia tree in the woods.

[@B.Wayne88]

"I failed" not alot people would admit that. Something fighters and trainers today could learn from.

[@dogley1]

Mike Tyson was far from perfect, he did some bad things that we all know about but many years on he has changed character, accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized on many occasions for certain things. He also had some shortcomings in the ring during his career when he did not live up to expectations, didn't deliver on the night and perhaps did not reach his full true potential. But I feel it is unfair to constantly take a negative stance on what Mike did or did not do during his life. He achieved truly great accomplishments as a young athlete. He still holds the record of youngest HW Champion ever, even after nearly 40 years. By age 21 he had collected up and unified the title which had been broken up and fragmented into different belts. He had a true love for boxing as a teenager, studied the legends of old to emulate them. He fulfilled the life-long dream of his old mentor. Avenged a brutal defeat of his boyhood hero Muhammad Ali. He defended himself on many occasions as the smaller man against big fighters that wanted his blood. His name "Tyson" had become the number one target that people wanted to take out. He's only seen as an executioner of victims that didn't fight back but that wasn't true. He went into the ring scared on many occasions and had to face adversity from men that did fight back. He just made it seem that way as the "executioner" because part of his art of war was to use the intimidation factor. Mike was not perfect, but deserves more respect from Teddy, but they have bad blood, so it is not easy for Teddy to let go of those demons and maybe never will.

[@based-ys9um]

"i graped young girls and robbed old women . I'm not perfect"

[@KP43-08]

Dam bro you wrote a chapter 😂

[@realg5276]

Good post

[@PaulHolman-sh5ts]

Teddy Atlas is bang on the money .. I love this fella I could listen to him all day & night

[@3MUnique]

Foreman fought Ron Lyles b4 being out of boxing 10 yrs. That’s 1 of the very best heavyweight slug fests in the history of the sport. There were 5 knock downs.

[@KetchLambier]

No doubt!! An All-Time classic!

[@scottdean9259]

Wasn't there six knockdowns ?

[@KetchLambier]

@@scottdean9259 yes, if I recall...over two rounds if I recall as well. A fight for all-time!

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Great fight. But it probably should have ended in round 1 or 2, which was stopped after 2 minutes with Lyle hanging on.

[@3MUnique]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 if I recall correctly, George went down afterwards, late in 1 round and if he weren’t saved by the bell he would not have made the count so Lyles could’ve won that fight as well.

[@ZdenekZeman433]

George was not destroyed by the title lost. He felt stupid, and angry. He desperately wanted a rematch, that was denied. What made him feel not invincible was the tremendous fight with Ron Lyle

[@wingateworldunlimited]

The love we have for Tyson ain't because he was the greatest. Its cuz he came from the dirt and he was the underdog with a big bite. Mike Tyson beat the odds and he brought hell with him when he did. The peoples champ forever

[@JamesHall415]

No speak for yourself spongebob

[@americanzombie1802]

A lot of boxers came from the dirt. Tyson was a big break through star because the excitement he brought and his obvious talent. And many years later he’s still around and able to talk about those days so there’s plenty of reasons to like him for that now. But that doesn’t make him the best of all time.

[@KingStreetBrody]

So did George literally lol and Floyd mayeather as well( despite the money tag) and a lot of other champs as well

[@ST58432]

@@KingStreetBrody The dirt he talking about is inner city dirt as opposed to country or suburban dirt. It’s stupid but that’s how guys from inner cities think like it’s all good and safe out there outside the big cities. I’m from the Bronx but I’ve been around seen damn near the whole country so I’m not ignorant like that no more. You don’t gotta be from NY Philly or Baltimore or whatever to have a hard upbringing…

[@KingStreetBrody]

@@ST58432 oh fasho💯

[@JBERRY603]

Teddys a hater? Nah love Teddy. The passion!!!

[@ChanceJolivette]

I watched foreman fight when i was younger but that was once he was an older man, then i watched the movie and i assumed it would be wack but it turned out to really be a great story and love to hear teddy tell this, he really is a great man

[@donjohn2695]

Foreman is top 3 heavyweights in the history of boxing with with Ali and Joe Louis

[@gilbertnicholas1582]

Teddy told Moorer EXACTLY what was coming If you haven't seen it please watch that fight

[@JosephCarter-v3v]

Even Tyson's great trainer Cus D'Amato told Tyson to never fight George Foreman because Tyson would be knocked out by Big George because Tyson's style which would walk right into Foreman's power was made to order for the freakish punching power of Foreman.

[@tymillionaire5733]

big geo said his self he didn’t want to fight tyson

[@therealtonyt2538]

Give this man some Water he got hiccups 😂

[@Bangbangbigelow]

This guy man Teddy is always the first person to point out someone else’s shortcomings, Mike is always the first to point out his own shortcomings And that’s where both of these men are different

[@kempissongster21]

Maybe Teddy needs to exorcise his own ghosts about Mike Tyson.

[@fighterck6241]

Teddy's a trainer. It's his job yo point out other people's shortcomings. Mike, having been one of those champs, has the job of looking within himself to see what his trainer is telling him about himself.

[@MaccaveliPL]

Of course he is.

[@brixtonmystery]

This is so heavy and most will never understand

[@kjo2130]

Tyson was great but there are many heavyweights above him all time

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

Respectable opinion by teddy atlas that’s how he feels George Foreman was a great fighter powerhouse he won the belt at an older age but Tyson was young getting busy in that ring

[@therumbleinthejunglee]

Anyone who thinks Tyson is greater than Foreman doesn’t know shit about boxing

[@Dempsey1873]

He is. Far superior record and it's not even close. Any version of George KOs Mike which is why he wanted no part of him

[@PR-WAY]

Mike The Greatest to me dont care what this clown says Tyson was 🔥 aint no one as young as Mike was, was ever on that level

[@mariogully]

Amen brother. Atlas tells it like it is .

[@marcspecial]

Really hate to hear people say Ali broke Foreman down. HEAR ME he let Foreman beat the crap out of him to tire Foreman out…Ali suffered for that the final years of his life greatly. It wasn’t worth it.

[@hb120877]

Foreman was beating on Ali physically.. Ali was beating on George Foreman mentally..

[@1010-v7l]

Oh please 😂 foreman barely landed a clean punch on Ali, even though Ali stood still and let him hit him😂 Ali schooled him that night, which helped foreman in the future.

[@hb120877]

@@1010-v7l you were referring to the Rope a Dope...! Foreman fell for that old trick..

[@KevinLe-k9r]

Teddy also trained Mike Tyson initially, and many didn't know that. Thank you Teddy for your insight! Teddy was the one that had some inkling what Big George was up to that night. Oh man! That was some fight!

[@sirbrad4]

So how come George said he wanted no part of Mike Tyson? Lol. No one moved and punched faster and harder than Mike Tyson combined.

[@ShizzGriffin]

So why did he lose to Buster Douglas?

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

He said that years later, because he's a gracious guy. At the time, he was calling out Tyson on every TV show and was desperate for title shots and big fights. Tyson didn't hit that hard. If he did, he'd have won some fights after his speed went, and not lost to everyone decent he fought. Styles make fights and Foreman was a terrible match for Tyson. Tyson would have had to adapt his style completely.

[@sirbrad4]

@@ShizzGriffin He didn't, as Tyson said Buster was slow counted and Tyson was fast counted out even though he beat the count. Also this Tyson was coked up.

[@Dempsey1873]

​@@sirbrad4prime Mike got KOd and that's all there is to it. What YOU are leaving out is that George in the 90s said he wanted to fight mike on a talk show so clearly the interview u are referring to which wasn't too long ago is just him being humble in his old age. Mike dodged George like the plague

[@kevinbreaud7959]

Teddy needs to let it go with Mike . I truly believe that if he didn’t have something against Mike he would have a different stance on him . Teddy will never let it go

[@chupa.me.la.pinga.mar1con]

You need to let go your worshiping of overrated rapeo

[@user-ts2co4ov5h]

There is something physically wrong With Teddy Atlas.

[@Shruko]

He has hiccups

[@martinezmccurry6751]

Say what you want to say from 3:00 up will give the toughest man alive Goosebumps. Teddy Atlas is the greatest boxing story tell of all times. That man is the Morgan Freeman of boxing. If mike Tyson makes a movie this man got to narrate it. How raw truthful and uncut it would be and pay him and pay him well.💯💪🏿

[@Bavarian_Lifting]

I dont think people understand just how insane it is to win a heavweight title at 45 years old. Mike Tyson is now what, 58? So he was 45 in 2011. Could 45 year old Tyson have made a successful comeback in 2011 and win it against Klitschko? No way in hell

[@kareemmartin1456]

This was well said Mr. Atlas👏🏾

[@jesusneverexisted300]

200 million for the grills? Now that is the true heavyweight champion. Forget the boxing!

[@pfitzger2e1]

Great stuff Teddy . Foreman exorcised the ghost of Ali . Foreman did something no other boxer in any weight class will ever do regain the title 21 years 10 months and 14 days after he 1st won it a record that will never be broken . For this Foreman will always rank higher then Tyson on all time greats list , who had the greatest comeback in history .

[@joojoobaw]

Teddy is right, except about the grills 😔 I expected so much more when I bought one off that infomercial, still salty about it to this day

[@ralphgreenwood2469]

Most people love their grills.I do.Which one did you buy?The bigger ones are the best.

[@freezhollywood]

If you’re not a casual this isn’t a hot take lmao. Foreman was in an era of all elite heavyweights. Tyson came into a weak n dead era of the 80s. Everybody was washed or Uber drivers. Soon as the talent level spiked in the 90s shit got rocky for him.

[@TashiTrainer]

Forman truly built differently. Seriously

[@muzz1290]

Before George Foreman was selling grills, he was selling knockouts. 40-0 before Ali with 36 by KO. Ali is the GOAT

[@kellystewart9973]

Totally disagree with Foreman being greater than Tyson. Tyson in his prime vs. Foreman in his prime would have been interesting, but Tyson skill wise was better. Ali himself said that Tyson would have beaten him and Ali was a bad boy jack! Let's be real, Tyson beat Tyson because if Cus were with him his whole career we'd be having a waaaaayyyyy different discussion about who the greatest ever was or would be.💯

[@MB-fo2sk]

Foreman was fiercer than Tyson and had the better chin, the bigger heart. Tyson was an exceptionally skilled fighter who could have been the greatest heavyweight of all time but he also was a bully and like all bullies when he faced someone who wouldn't be scared of him and hold his own like an Evander Holyfield he would crumble.

[@kellystewart9973]

@@MB-fo2sk I humbly disagree, Tyson did have a chin. Look how many rounds it took Holyfield to knock out an out of shape and undetermined Tyson! Also, consider how long it took Lewis to knock him out and he was obviously high on drugs and out of shape! Like I said before, Tyson beat Tyson. And I don't know what you think you know about Foreman in his earlier career but he was pretty much stand offish and considered in a negative light himself.

[@guygranger7894]

In boxing,,,someone ALWAYS comes along and takes the belt. But ONCE a CHAMP,,ALWAYS a CHAMP. They can`t take that away. Just like previous presidents are still addressed as Mr. president.

[@UTP504]

Two things can be true at the same time, 1, he’s definitely a hater & a Tyson hater fasho, 2, Foreman is better than Tyson.🥊

[@JasonGarber-n9y]

George foreman said he wanted no part of tyson he said he was a nightmare ! Nightmare tyson...

[@kevinhays2142]

Every fighter in their prime ranked. 1. Ali. 2. Foreman. 3. Joe Louis. 4. Larry Holmes. 5. Tyson. 6. Marciano.

[@55gaser26]

Mike lost to every good fighter he faced, left his good trainers and lost that mental edge. And wasn’t one to come back and adjust in a tough fight.

[@edkang42]

teddy could live forever. Him and John madden "announcer" are part or my childhood! Love Teddy

[@dlum73]

so who would have won had they fought ? , lets say around 1997-1998 , Tyson or Foreman ? i always thought Foreman would wear Tyson down after 7 rounds .

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Why '97-98? Foreman was almost 50 by that point and Tyson was well past his prime.

[@lolucci1453]

Foreman definitely greater than Tyson

[@ThirtyThreeHipHop]

I maintain there needs to be a Vlad TV awards at the end of the year....This is a early nominee for inspirational interview of the year.

[@mikepotter6426]

Yeah, George is super great. Jesus gave him what was missing. Ya never see him not smiling or sharing love. Great great man of men

[@Samacun]

Teddy needs to get Big George on his podcast and Michael Moorer

[@deanp127]

Whilst I agree to an extent. It isn’t like Foreman came back and beat Ali.

[@mrjroc318]

Atlas still has a beef with Tyson and it shows.

[@stevelucier8346]

Ali quickly re-fought Norton and Frazier. Ali was a few body punches away from dying from internal bleeding at the beating he took from Foreman and spent a week hooked up to machines and tubes in the hospital and didn't get out until two weeks had passed. Ali was bleeding internally for three weeks after the Foreman fight. There is a reason Ali never fought Foreman again and it wasn't just because Foreman stopped. Although from 1971 or 1972 almost every fight Ali fought he broke his right hand. Ali won most every fight nearly single handed. Pay attention to Ali fighting and in particular after in the ring and you will see Ali working his hand. He had to keep that a secret or his boxing license would have been revoked. In my eyes Ali and Foreman are the two greatest with Ali the tops. Imagine refusing to give in, refusing to lose to Kenny Norton having both a broken hand and broken jaw and fighting through all that to the end. And on most top fighters there was always the Mafia influence. Ali faced it. Foreman faced it which is one of the reasons why he suffered his second loss. His mistake is he thought "if I can't knock him out till the last round I will beat him near to death" then knock him out. Spent himself AGAIN trying to punish instead of planning to knock one out. Question? If no one ever tired Foreman out till the last round once why did Foreman get so tired so fast against Ali? Drinking bottle water? Who might have motive? No way Ali would! Ali had already stood against spiking and they spiked Ali instead to punnish him but Ali refused to give in and went on to win anyway.

[@gregoryphillips3969]

Evander Holyfield is better than Mike Tyson also. Not just because of their 2 professional fights. Word out of the Olympic village in 1984 I believe was that the Tyson/Holyfield sparring sessions were some of the best ever but it was clear to all observers that Holyfield was consistently getting the best of Tyson. This was kept quiet but it throws a monkey wrench in the excuse that Mike only lost because he had to go to prison and the affect that had on him. Truth be told Holyfield wins no matter what, just a bad matchup for Mike. The Lennox Lewis conversation should be had but everyone can say that Mike was way past his peak which is true but both fighters were pretty much the same age. We can also talk about Buster Douglas and then why didn't Tyson fight Riddick Bowe. Mike claimed that they were good friends but truth be told that fight doesn't end well for Mike either. A motivated Bowe would have handled Tyson.

[@danielmccoy-md3zd]

Tyson was a great puncher but really one of the most overrated heavyweights ever. Most people who say he was the best and would beat Ali and Foreman were people (like myself) who grew up in the 80s but not true boxing people.

[@tris87don16]

AGREE!!

[@chevytahoe9913]

The slow moving shuffling George Foreman

[@longgrayline8055]

My take on it is that a peak Tyson was the greatest boxer of all. I’m talking on a night when he truly believed in himself and was still a solid, good guy. 1986 was peak Tyson. Pre-crazy wife, pre-Don King, pre-doing bad stuff days. I put my cash on a Kevin Rooney trained boxer all day long. Tyson hadn’t lost his D’Amato influences yet either.

[@belowthebeltboxingabrocast]

Man Teddy just reminded me that the art of teaching REAL boxing coaching is becoming a lost art. There’s more boxing instructors than boxing teachers right now. Sport is still great and in good hands with the talent of these boxers, but man they would be so much better. I mean look at how successful Tank and Bud are, and listen to their coaches explain and talk boxing and it’s just like Teddy and Manny Stewart

[@bizzyrizzy4075]

This guys is spitting absolute facts that is the biggest difference between Tyson and Foremam also maybe strength

[@TheGreatest1974]

And in EIGHTY ONE FIGHTS who was the only man to ko big George Foreman? Muhammad Ali was the only fighter ever able to do that. And George was at a PEAK 26 years old. Not 46! NO ONE in the 1990’s including Evander Holyfield (who stopped Mike Tyson) could stop George. He is a fantastic heavyweight. Very very underrated.

[@user-uo8yh9tb8g]

right-on brother... I actually switched channels about mid-fight as George was beginning to look like he was going to get badly embarrassed.......then I turned back, and the fight was over, and Foreman had done the near impossible! Shame on me... but for me that's right up there with Nolan Ryan throwing two more no-hitters to add to his own record in the early 1990's in his 40s

[@jimcampilongo6469]

Personally, I wish Teddy Atlas didn’t use 300 words to say a 10 word idea. Sorry ...

[@geenadasilva9287]

Amen to all that Teddy says. and God Bless Big George xxx

[@marshallderriek1858]

Time takes away everything .. Ali beat him with his brain .. people thought George would destroy him but a great boxer can dismantle a great puncher

[@carlallen8392]

Teddy tells it like it is, special man

[@trueempire8948]

I’m not mad with that. George Foreman is one of the greatest heavyweight champion boxer to ever do it and one hardest punchers ever. Fought in 4 decade’s dominated majority of his fights legend.

[@iamnotpablo]

Ted is BITTER. He needs to let that HATE go. It's been half a century already.