Mike Wheeler Season 1 Queer-Coding

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Marshmallow Sketches

Marshmallow Sketches

Күн бұрын

This video is basically a compilation of moments that I think could be evidence of Byler or of Mike being gay/bi/etc. I included time stamps so you guys could see it too and I tried to include a ton a pictures and videos =)
This was so much fun to make!!! I've had so much fun with all these Byler analysis videos recently and I cannot wait to make more (and I have a ton of non-byler stuff planned as well because Byler isn't the only reason I absolutely adore this show!!!)
Timestamps (sorry this video is so long)
0:00 Intro
0:48 Disclaimer/ Mini Rant
2:34 Intro pt 2
3:03 analysis/queer-coding compilation
27:32 Outro
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@batsyishere
@batsyishere Жыл бұрын
Platonic mileven supremacy❤
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love Mike and El’s bond, their connection and chemistry in s1 was cute and I loved them in s3
@springgirl7874
@springgirl7874 5 ай бұрын
yesss, platonic elmike is the cutest
@tumbling6940
@tumbling6940 Жыл бұрын
The scene where Nancy says she doesn't like Jonathan and Mike says he doesn't like El I think also illustrates that Mike thinks people are telling him the truth. When Dustin says a few minutes later that Nancy and Jonathan are probably sucking face Mike is confused and I think it's because he assumed Nancy was being honest about telling each other everything and therefore about not liking Jonathan. (I think Mike was probably hurt when he learned she'd lied.) And that adds to the idea that Mike answered honestly. It also would mean Mike trusts people so much that he makes choices based on their dishonesty.
@tova1412
@tova1412 Жыл бұрын
huh, this is a cool take!
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Love this take! I definitely think he is very trusting because he values honesty.
@Girlypop7381
@Girlypop7381 2 ай бұрын
This is so smart!
@alexinator-hh5fe
@alexinator-hh5fe Жыл бұрын
I've seen so many people adamant about how Mike can't be queer because there aren't any hints. And if he were, he would've said so already. Funny. People said the same thing about Will too. And it's like they forget the time period this show is set in. The 80's. Of course Mike, Will and Robin aren't jumping out of the closet in joy. And not just the time period. But the location too. A majority of the town thinks Will was hatecrimed and down away with for being queer. And a good portion of them are okay with that and even joke about it(which also reminds me that Lonnie used to insult and ridicule him for not being more "manly" and that makes me sad). So I'm glad they're giving this plotline the buildup it deserves. And I definitely think there's something going on with Mike beneath the surface. Side note, these boys thought they found the body of their close friend. In middle school. Get them all some therapy. That's so awful.
@pep_king
@pep_king Жыл бұрын
27:24 not to mention the costume designer going into detail about robin's lgbtq/triangle imagery in her outfit in season 4. this may or may not have been intentional, but this connection WORKS
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about this but your right!!! I’ll make sure to mention it when I talk about Mike’s s3-4 costuming and what I think it means I definitely think the way she talked about Robin’s costumes is very telling
@chubsgcf
@chubsgcf Жыл бұрын
15:56 this is crazy cuz they actually did shoot a scene where mike bikes home, and a single tear falls that mike wipes away. (finn talks about it) and it’s sad we didn’t get to see it cuz it’s probably the only scene from s1 that got deleted. (“It's so weird. We don't delete scenes," said Matt. "I think there's been one deleted scene in Season 1 or 2. We have two deleted scenes.” The other scene is a s4 car ride thing)
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
That is so heartbreaking imagining him biking home 😭 I’m shocked they deleted that, it makes me think those lyrics being with those scenes was really important because adding that would’ve messed with the rest of the pacing. Thanks for sharing thats such a cool fact! Have a lovely day
@remi9917
@remi9917 Жыл бұрын
There’s a theory that we’ll get to see those deleted scenes in S5.
@Lily-ui2kz
@Lily-ui2kz Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they release the footage in s5 or just in general
@HeartsSWS
@HeartsSWS Жыл бұрын
The Duffers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWOxnHiPi9WSapY
@jadebee122
@jadebee122 9 ай бұрын
@@HeartsSWS i got jabaited...
@jadecxli
@jadecxli 11 ай бұрын
I feel like this season, mike discovered his feelings for will but he also loves eleven but can’t seem to comprehend which person to go for. In the end he chooses eleven but he doesn’t seem very happy with that decision and neither does El. I’m hoping in season 5, we get a mutual acceptance and understanding (like Finn wolfhard said) about mike and wills relationship. I really hope they can battle it out together.
@Pineapple-Belongs-On-Pizza
@Pineapple-Belongs-On-Pizza Жыл бұрын
I rewatched the scene when Lucas, Mike and Dustin see Will after he woke up in hospital, multiple times, and I noticed that not only did Mike give Will the longest hug out of all of them, but after Dustin hugged Will, there’s this really short shot of Mike smiling. It’s so pure and Mike is so happy, it brings me so much joy. Also, when Mike and Will were talking about how “the demogorgon got Will” and “Eleven stopped it”, Will and Mike were staring at each other THE WHOLE TIME. THEY COULDN’T TAKE THEIR EYES OFF OF EACH OTHER!!
@AstraAnimates
@AstraAnimates 11 ай бұрын
FRRRR, I NOTICED THIS WHILE I REWATCHED IT YESTERDAY
@s.osullivan1193
@s.osullivan1193 Жыл бұрын
One thing that breaks my heart even more about the cliff scene is that when Mike looks down, we can see the rocks below him. He knows he isn’t going to hit the water. He is going to hit the rocks. If he jumped or took a run he might have hit the water, but he just steps off. I know we know that hitting the water from that height would still be almost certain death but if you broke the surface tension you might survive, but hitting the rocks is even less likely to be survivable
@jadecxli
@jadecxli 11 ай бұрын
everybody also thinks he was willing to kill himself for Dustin. but who would actually kill the self for their friends teeth? He knew that this was his once and only chance to be with Will, and he used this opportunity to jump. to be with the one person who truly understood him. the one person who he truly loved. and I think that is what’s so beautiful about mike, he always takes time out of his life to love and care for the people around him. no matter if that’s eleven, or will. for example in season 2, even though he wasn’t that fond of max, he still helped her up and asked her if she was okay after she fell off her skateboard. he also immediately apologises to Will after every argument. He never expects Will to apologise first. I love mike sm, he’s such a misunderstood character.
@giovanniluke3882
@giovanniluke3882 2 ай бұрын
​@@jadecxliMy God, you're too desperate
@jadecxli
@jadecxli 2 ай бұрын
@@giovanniluke3882 desperate for what? I’m just discussing my own theories about a show. go cry sweetie x
@lauraanderson8785
@lauraanderson8785 Жыл бұрын
I find Mike being bi more likely than him being gay. I don't think he is faking his feelings for El. However, I also think he does sense Will being into him and that confuses him. Maybe he is dealing with internalised homophobia, that's what it felt like when he didn't hug Will at the airport despite being able to hug other male characters.
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Tysm for sharing your thoughts!!!!
@yoonahkang7384
@yoonahkang7384 Жыл бұрын
Thats because you expect him to like her since she is a girl. But mike is really cold towarda El in comparison to Will
@Samurai-2009-
@Samurai-2009- Жыл бұрын
I never really thought about it like that but it dose make sense
@alananimus9145
@alananimus9145 11 ай бұрын
A lot of people like to jump on the mike is gay band wagon but there's evidence that he does like girls. He's def bi.
@jadecxli
@jadecxli 11 ай бұрын
@@alananimus9145I think people just assume he’s gay, and gay only because he seems to be more attracted to eleven with her shorter hair/ her head shaved. because everybody thought eleven was a boy at first in season 1, and Mike got a crush on her when she looked like a boy, but I think he definitely likes eleven, but he’s starting to discover his feelings for will as well.
@babybunnigutz3297
@babybunnigutz3297 Жыл бұрын
I think when he was doing his monologue to help save El the “love at first sight” he talked about may have actually been about Will. In season 2 he tells will that meeting him on the swing set was the best decision he ever made and it seems so much more genuine.
@Liahonbo
@Liahonbo Жыл бұрын
I’ve always adored the intentionality behind the colors in this show: particularly the primary colors with the navy blues and brick reds and mustard yellows to really hammer in the 80s but also to ascribe meaning to each hue. I’ve also always and solely payed attention to those three primaries, but I was so excited every time you brought up green!! I only noticed green things since s3 as the season was so full of color. And from the way Dustin often wears green, Jancy wears navy green in s2 when they go on their mission to expose the lab, and Mike and Lucas wear green when biking out in the to rain to apologize to Will, to name a few moments, all these instances to me show unity. And this video made me realize how much Mike wore green in s1, really highlighting how he drew that line to Will and strove to reunite the Party.
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Love this!!! Tysm for sharing your thoughts on it!!! I plan on talking about the colors A LOT more in s2 and s4 videos because that’s when they REALLY come into play and matter. In s3 it matters too but his colors in s3 are so back and forth and conflicting which plays into the story a lot but it’s so complicated. I cannot wait to talk about it!!!!’
@angelwithnightmares
@angelwithnightmares Жыл бұрын
Damn. I really do believe Mike is gay and the way they put in all these little hints throughout the show is a perfect way for them to say “It’s always been there, right from the start”. Just like with Will. And they’re doing an insanely good job because there’re so few people who actually believes Mike is gay. If you say something like this in the FB Fangroups you’ll be banned and reported, like it’s crazy!
@yoonahkang7384
@yoonahkang7384 Жыл бұрын
I didnt see it until these videos (I noticed Will because it was obvious in season 4). I used to ship lots of couples in past tvshows, gay couples, but none of them were canon in the end, even when there were hints and insinuations (which ended up being just queerbaiting),, so I got tired and I started giving for granted the heteronormativity. I did that even when I watched Our Flag Means Death, but it was so obvious later in the eps that I couldnt not see it, but with other shows, it has been surprise after surprise, and I am so glad tv is changing in that sense. I just got too early to watch tvshows, and in the beggining of millenia it was all so straight! But now it's changing and I can quite assume it yet. I am always waiting for disappointment. I just hope will and Mike ate not another dissapointibg queerbaiting. I've had enough of those Sorru my english, not my native language
@ms.rottenstrawberry1018
@ms.rottenstrawberry1018 11 ай бұрын
I’m worried that the Duffers will chicken out and just kill Will off in some heroic way to avoid the complexities of his and Mike’s relationship. If Mike says that he doesn’t like will back than that will also be disappointing because why did they build it up for so long? Idk, i’m nervous about season 5
@Girlypop7381
@Girlypop7381 2 ай бұрын
If they made mike suddenly not like will back it would be disappointing. Very disappointing. Because why would they give us so many hints/ details that Mike could be gay? I feel like Mike likes Will romantically but he likes el in a platonic way.
@laurielozano6263
@laurielozano6263 Жыл бұрын
Okay, this is kinda long. I’m a writer so I really enjoyed your analysis on this subject. The colors used for Mike’s clothes tells a lot If you read deeply into his emotions and how to connect to each scene you mentioned using the meanings of chakras. Hear me out… It seems Mike wears a lot of blue which ties into literally emotion and feelings. The lighter color of blue is connected to communication/throat chakra while the darker blue (close to indigo) is about the third eye/the other side/wisdom which is important with his determination to stay locked into Will being alive while everyone else (except Joyce) believes he is dead. Yellow is about will power, confidence, courage, warrior mentality. It is connected to the solar plexus which is like a small sun that is always burning/never giving up. Green is the heart chakra and it is obvious in its meaning; the character is always mixing emotions (blue) with his heart (green) and tying it with courage (yellow) as he struggles with his own identity (his new/unfamiliar feelings for El) and looking for Will (his familiar/old feelings for his best friend. Also Mike and Will are very creative; Will with his art work and Mike’s great Imagination as dungeon master in D&D. It would be cool to think one day Mike and Will creating a comic together. Great video! Sorry I went and on and on but as a writer I enjoy going down the rabbit hole to get a closer look into other writer’s minds. Thank you!
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Wow!! I love all your thoughts on this
@laurielozano6263
@laurielozano6263 Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! It is very interesting how script writers use so many different elements to create a scene or a character. Especially when it’s in relation to the scene itself. Red in the chakras is connected to your root chakra which is being grounded and feeling safe…it your power base. White and black are not connected to the chakras, but the colors in spirituality link to purity and innocence. Black leans more towards protection and also grounding. A lot of people are unaware how much spirituality and chakras are tied into writing scenes for movies and television. That also goes into colors that are used in sets and scenes. It’s so fascinating and it also helps to strengthen you as a writer. You also mentioned music… That is very important when you use it in a scene! As we all know the Duffer brothers never miss a chance to use clues and little Easter eggs throughout their show. PS - i’m sorry I just read that you said blue… Not black… Blue is emotion like I said but has different variance in the depth of color. Darker blues are connected to the third eye which is the other side like I said but almost like a psychic awareness and emotion which is connected to the heart which is green. Light blue connects to the throat chakra which is clear communication. It’s funny when Mike confronts Troy he is wearing dark blue and light blue. he seems to at that time has the courage to confront Troy using his voice even though he knows he’s probably going to get his butt kicked. He doesn’t care.
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
@@laurielozano6263 thank you so much for explaining this to me, your very kind. And Dw I meant black I think I accidentally typed Blue so thanks for explaining both I love how important color is in media and tv scenes and knowing what you’ve told me a lot more scenes are making more sense in relation to why they were wearing what they were wearing. Mike is such a complex character and he wears a LOT of stripes in earlier seasons so I absolutely love that that in itself is meaningful and important to his character. Thanks again for being so kind and sharing this with me, this genuinely made my day Have a lovely day Laurie 😁
@laurielozano6263
@laurielozano6263 Жыл бұрын
You too! Looking forward to watching your other videos! 😄
@ramen_andanime
@ramen_andanime Жыл бұрын
I agree, I also noticed that in s4 if u add up all mikes clothing it makes the gay flag. INTRESTING-
@FwenchFwyThewishdragon
@FwenchFwyThewishdragon 9 ай бұрын
When it said "mabey he was like influenced by eddie" all I could think about was 3 words and those words were emo sad boy.
@SamiJoS8n
@SamiJoS8n 4 ай бұрын
This is such an interesting idea/series/etc, because the way queer and gay (both the words and the people) are treated and understood and talked about in the 80’s when ST is taking place is SOOOO different from today.
@zurileon5801
@zurileon5801 Жыл бұрын
I’m really glad you talked about the fact that mike and eleven were definitely friends, I feel like some hard-core byler shippers forget to mention or try to find excuses for that. And Mileven shippers don’t like to mention the fact that their whole friendship was INITIATED by Will, it doesn’t mean they didn’t become friends over the long run, But will connected them.
@nuh-uuh
@nuh-uuh Жыл бұрын
if he ain't gay or bi or whatever we all are getting clickbaited by netflix and duffers fr also i love ur small details😍😍
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! And I do think this qualifies as queer-baiting because they have hinted at the idea more than once and the show itself is hinting at it so at this point I hope he’s canonically queer because if he’s not than this is kinda messed up. Either way I hope whatever happens they are all happy
@nuh-uuh
@nuh-uuh Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches real! even if byler wouldnt happen (which i doubt so) i need atleast for them to have a happy ending they deserve
@Nobody-sx3vk
@Nobody-sx3vk Жыл бұрын
I've been really curious about why Troy called him Frog Face since I first watched it, I always thought it was just to make fun of his face but that explanation never really felt right compared to the nicknames given to Dustin and Lucas to point out why they're different
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
I have a theory 👀 I’ll be making a short vid about it soon and I’ll go into detail there but I definitely have some thoughts on the term frog face in regards to Mike and what I think it really means
@Nobody-sx3vk
@Nobody-sx3vk Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches Oooo can't wait :O
@anandamaya6949
@anandamaya6949 Жыл бұрын
I've never really understood this"frog face" thing tbh, I would love to hear some theories about that.
@jadecxli
@jadecxli 11 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Finn, Caleb and Gaten told the creators what people make fun of about them. And Finn told the creators people call him frog face or something like that, so they incorporated that into the script
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches 10 ай бұрын
@@jadecxli that is so interesting! It definitely adds a level of authenticity and complexity knowing that those nicknames hit close to home for Finn, Gaten, and Caleb. Thank you so much for sharing, I had no idea. Have a lovely day :)
@analaga3228
@analaga3228 Жыл бұрын
1. I love this video so much, you pointed out so many things that i never noticed. I used to hate Mike bc I thought he was annoying but now looking back I think I just really misunderstood him. 2. I love finding other queer neurodivergent people who can't consume media normally and the fact that you took note of every single thing Mike did is incredible. 3. I love every scene in this show where Mike hugs his mom. They get me in my feels every. single. time. 4. Mike is gay.
@raquelanngela
@raquelanngela Ай бұрын
he was so offended im crying 22:37
@Zoomalyssa
@Zoomalyssa Жыл бұрын
I love hearing your perspectives! I’ve never heard Ted’s lines the way you interpreted them! I find it very interesting, I hear it now and think you’re definitely onto something there!!
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Thanks for hearing me out! I didn’t notice it as much at first either but he makes a lot of lil comments. Have a lovely day
@Zoomalyssa
@Zoomalyssa Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches Ofc! You as well! :]
@lauran8968
@lauran8968 Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches I thought the comment Ted made about Mike being with a girl was more like "my son is too much of a loser to hang out with girls" but maybe I was wrong?
@milladyer
@milladyer Жыл бұрын
I think the colors are what sells this for me.
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
honestly same! I didn't really take my byler theories seriously until I made the connections with the colors. I think it's too specific to be "reaching" However I respect people who disagree because this kind of thing is very subjective Have a nice day =)
@lauran8968
@lauran8968 Жыл бұрын
I've always been a byler, I'm convinced Mike has always loved Will *that way* but I do think Mike did like El, or at least he thought he liked her, but he was just a preteen, and he might be autistic as well. But with time things got even more complicated and he got used to being with her, and he just accepted that he was in a relationship that didn't bring him and her any joy. That's so sad.
@MystDupp
@MystDupp Жыл бұрын
22:37 Another reason I feel like he was telling the truth here, is that we've seem him lie before, and he acts much differently. For example, when explaining to El why he couldn't hang out in season 3, he seems much more nervous and on edge. And in season 4, when they argue because he never tells her he loves her, he's much more defense. His love confession in season 4 seems more like a lie than this scene tbh
@anotherhuman7485
@anotherhuman7485 Жыл бұрын
oh yes my new favorite byler channel
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Awwww thank you 😊
@anotherhuman7485
@anotherhuman7485 Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches just realized ur channel it’s not all about Byler, still, my new favorite channel
@rosewarren3438
@rosewarren3438 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh! Loved this! Can't wait for the sesson two analysis :D
@rey-le-gay
@rey-le-gay Жыл бұрын
Nah cuz I love these theories like I’ve been watching byler queer coding loads lately, also can I just mention your voice is so calming like you seem like such a sweet person 😭
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches 10 ай бұрын
Aww thank you so much, I genuinely appreciate that
@simpliigrace-wasluvxwolfi3956
@simpliigrace-wasluvxwolfi3956 11 ай бұрын
16:33 i think ted would though, although mike has like a really good mom, you do see quite a few signs of child neglect from ted through the seasons, and if and when he finds out, he’ll probably be really suprised, but at no way accepting, he seems like the type of dad to judge before understanding the circumstances
@simpliigrace-wasluvxwolfi3956
@simpliigrace-wasluvxwolfi3956 11 ай бұрын
i wish i was ur friend so bad
@abbyjowalker8403
@abbyjowalker8403 Жыл бұрын
Just rewatched s1 bc I wanted it to be fresh when I watched this video. Thank u for opening my eyes
@HeartsSWS
@HeartsSWS Жыл бұрын
11:23 He really didn't show any interest in El until Lucas pointed it out tbh And even when he denied that he likes her it didn't seem like when you really do have a crush on someone and you deny it like "uh.. What no I don't 🙄😅" it sounded legit, he didn't seem embarrassed he just sounded annoyed
@yoonahkang7384
@yoonahkang7384 Жыл бұрын
Story of my life ahaha
@Xplreli
@Xplreli 23 күн бұрын
I didn’t understand the Byler thing at first cause I only could see Mileven but that changed last season and looking back I see a lot more signs now. I do think Mike likes El but he’s not in love with her and his feeling for Will and Wills feeling for him are coming too the surface so he’s grappling with that in the latest season. I definitely think he could like Will back.
@mxperiwinkle
@mxperiwinkle 2 ай бұрын
This is so interesting and easy to understand! Thanks for the really amazing analysis👏😊
@chickadee893
@chickadee893 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for these videos!! I love this so much! This is feeding my random stranger things hyperfixation, so thank you 🙏
@martinimartini7
@martinimartini7 Жыл бұрын
I love this analysis, and real talk you're so charming and real, I found myself smiling at your byler-related excitement
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
aww thank you! I appreciate that
@amazenbrooks3796
@amazenbrooks3796 Жыл бұрын
This is why I subscribed to you because I love the way you genuinely explain what you feel and what you think about byler, I just love you already! ;) 😃💙💛 And I'm glad to be a part of your new little marshmallows!🥰
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Awww welcome to the toasty family, proud to have you as an awesome s’more
@amazenbrooks3796
@amazenbrooks3796 Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches Aww Happy Halloween to you too!😍🥰🎃👻💖
@rachelrodriguez650
@rachelrodriguez650 Жыл бұрын
I love this analysis so much! We have the same interests and it’s nice to see others talking about things im interested in as well since I can’t really express them to others since they don’t have the same interests as me😭❤️
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
As a neurodivergent person I know that feeling! But don’t worry, I assure you there are people who like what you like! Sometimes you just have to look for it but I hope you find people who appreciate what you appreciate because your interests are valid and beautiful because they are yours. Have a lovely day and keep being you
@tachguthrie9880
@tachguthrie9880 4 ай бұрын
I just went through and rewatched s1 recently and something interesting I noticed is, in my opinion, the only 2 times we explicitly see Mike doing anything to indicate he likes El romantically is directly after someone else TELLS him that (they think) he has a crush on El. The first time is after Lucas mentions that Mike is obsessed with El by stating that "Mike loves her so much, lets get married". Mike brushes it off but in the next scene with El when they are walking on the tracks they have a little heart to heart and Mike gives her a look that could indicate he DOES have feelings for her. Almost like it wasnt something he thought about until the idea was introduced to him. The other scene is after the talk with Nancy, when she asks him if he likes El. I never noticed the blatant difference in the way the two express their denial until watching your video and it blows my mind how vastly different it is. Im now inclined to believe that he was most likely being genuine that he really didnt like El. Of course the romantic indicator afterwards is the fact that Mike kisses El after asking her to the Snow Ball. While I agree with your interpretation of how Mike could potentially be feeling, I also feel like it could also be " People keep saying this is how I feel, so I must feel that way." Something important to note too is just how young they are in s1. I believe they are meant to be like 11/12. So its very real that this is meant to be their first experiences with crushes and that Mike genuinely doesnt know what it feels like to have a crush on someone. As someone who was a young closeted queer kid growing up in a small Midwestern town, I definitely dealt with a lot of internalized homophobia. A lot of my early straight "crushes" were just projections of what I THOUGHT I was supposed to be feeling based on what the other "normal" kids around me were saying. And while I don't deny that Mike does genuinely care about El, I feel like he may he confusing platonic with romantic feelings. Its been established that Mike up until this point has had little to no positive interaction with a girl that he isn't related to. It is also established, by MIKE, in s4 that he views his relationship with Will differently than that of the rest of the party. Since finding Will is Mikes main focus is s1, its easy to assume that his feelings, platonic or romantic, for Will are at the forefront of his mind throughout the season. Mike knows that the feelings, platonic or romantic, that he has for El in s1 is different from his feelings for Will and any other girl he has previously interacted with before. It would be easy to assume, based on the fact that they are so young and they don't know any different, that he could be interpreting his feelings into meaning he has a crush on El. Something I think that gets overlooked however, is that how Mike interacts with El is very similar to how he interacts with Lucas and Dustin, and that he spends the season trying to integrate her into becoming a member of their party. Like I mentioned previously, the only times where we see him act differently are when its presented to him that those feelings he has are romantic. Don't get me wrong, he could genuinely just be experiencing his first crush on El, but it is so interesting to think about. Especially with all the other subtle queer-coding moments we have for Mike in s1.
@lolzj
@lolzj Жыл бұрын
i loveeee your* analysis, you're so underrated!
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Tysm for watching
@urlocalbylershipper
@urlocalbylershipper Жыл бұрын
I'll watch this when I have time.
@icc1311
@icc1311 Жыл бұрын
I don’t really comment on your videos but I love your content so much ♥️
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Aww tysm for supporting
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Жыл бұрын
I love Stranger Things so much, I can't believe I didn't catch all those details! Awesome video!
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And I catch new details every time I rewatch which is honestly so much fun! I Love the amazing details in this show Happy Holidays
@coline4359
@coline4359 Жыл бұрын
Okay. First, thank you so much for this video, very clear and detailed. You speak very well, I am French, I do not have a very good level of English and yet I understood almost everything you said! Love
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Bonjour! Je suis contente que ma vidéo te plaise ! Je parle un peu français. (I’ve been learning for two years so I am not fluent but I love learning French!)
@coline4359
@coline4359 Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches Ow ! That's very cool ! If you want to practice a little, I'm here with pleasure! I've been working on my English since last year ;)
@psychopathicaf3277
@psychopathicaf3277 Жыл бұрын
literally laying on my floor listening to this video crying about byler i cant rn
@annikahasselblad4339
@annikahasselblad4339 Жыл бұрын
Lol mood
@riddle-
@riddle- 10 ай бұрын
As soon as I started watching this and you started going on that small rant explaining how it’s all just a theory, and that whole thing about “you can like that and I can like this, and it’s ok,” I said “I like you. Your cool” bc you aren’t pushing you ship or anything onto anyone
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Cristobels-Green-Boots
@Cristobels-Green-Boots Жыл бұрын
So interesting, & thank you for the research you’ve done…. Here’s the Unanswered Question - was Finn ‘in’ on this?’ He was so very young - & there are insights that must have been in the script…I remember Finn saying that they were given their lines on the morning of the actual shoot! Later, he seems perfectly at ease playing ‘Boris’ (wonderfully!) in ‘The Goldfinch’: Boris & Theo’s bi-sexuality is only hinted at in the movie, but it certainly is not in the novel… All this gives one a lot to think about …my daughter came out at 19, much to my relief - I felt that she’d been sitting on it for some time… With ‘Stranger Things’ it seems that production (colour schemes, etc) went toa ‘lot of trouble’ to anchor the story in a subliminal way… So, the question remains, ‘were the kids aware that the viewers were being manipulaterd?’ My relief that Finn Wolfhard’s coming out as bi, has had the effect of smoothing the path in his career, & vice versa, is total: also great that his life is built on the rock of a very supportive family, without which, nothing might be possible: Thanks for your insights, take care & be well in ‘23 🙏🏻💔🙏🏽
@dana-pagame-la-terapia262
@dana-pagame-la-terapia262 Жыл бұрын
YAs!! New video!!!
@timmills3177
@timmills3177 Жыл бұрын
I watch it in hope that Will gets a better life and get Mike😢
@josephinekent4134
@josephinekent4134 Жыл бұрын
This show is so fruity it's amazing
@user-dw2nv9jr4f
@user-dw2nv9jr4f Жыл бұрын
go girl!!!!!! awesome video!
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Awww thanks for the support s’more
@katwithrainfall
@katwithrainfall Жыл бұрын
Yay a new analysis video
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
😁💖
@BONISNEAR
@BONISNEAR Жыл бұрын
u better get back here quick with a season 2 video. X)
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry my season 2 video script is almost done!!!
@BONISNEAR
@BONISNEAR Жыл бұрын
@@MarshmallowSketches woah, already?! ur really fast 😭
@timmills3177
@timmills3177 Жыл бұрын
Live and love Byler#Byler forever
@ellendaniels8715
@ellendaniels8715 Жыл бұрын
random but ur handwriting is soooooo good
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
Aww tysm
@captaingreen4116
@captaingreen4116 7 ай бұрын
Annnnnd Subscribed ❤
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches 7 ай бұрын
Aww thank you so much! Welcome to the toasty lil family 💕
@oliviaborzillo1961
@oliviaborzillo1961 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes i feel delusional cuz i ship Byler then i watch ur vids and feel so proud to ship Byler😊
@alananimus9145
@alananimus9145 11 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that he originally thought El was a boy.
@justpeachybaby5929
@justpeachybaby5929 2 ай бұрын
She did look like a boy though, I don't think that means he's gay lol
@bitterrootsimmer
@bitterrootsimmer 5 ай бұрын
I just watched stranger things in just two days, due to my lack of meds and adhd. I started by going down a rabbit hole of Steve being the mom friend and wanted to fully see his journey. It was only in season three where I was fully shipping will and Mike. Thanks for 26:55 I will forever think that this is the reason why he hugged will that way. I just wanted to confirm that the quote on the blue board is from tangled.
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Ай бұрын
I remember when I first saw the show I finished it in two days as well! ADHD hyper focus can be a doozy 😂 And yes, the quote is from Tangled, it used to be one of my favorite quotes 😊 Have a lovely day s’more
@user-vt4sg1pk2s
@user-vt4sg1pk2s 9 ай бұрын
i know this video is kinda old but the level of delulu(even though all of this is hella canon) is so taylor swift to me
@rarijax
@rarijax 3 ай бұрын
dude honestly if this is queerbait i will probably end up crying 😭😭😭 in s4 mike CONSTANTLY is staring at wills lips, and even in other seasons, mostly s3.
@justpeachybaby5929
@justpeachybaby5929 2 ай бұрын
I dont know if that means anything though, it would have been best if will had another love interest because one ship isn't gonna sail so milevens or bylers are gonna be real mad by the end of season 5.
@antiheroine3611
@antiheroine3611 Жыл бұрын
when you grow up, you're gonna work in the legal system lol. Reading out timestamps like evidence for a trial.
@hanakosgrave
@hanakosgrave 8 ай бұрын
The funnest thing abt being a multi-shipper is you can ship mileven and byler
@MT3A
@MT3A Жыл бұрын
One thing I realized is that El mentioned Will’s painting to Mike in the Letter at the beginning. So, he was aware that Will was working on a painting that could possibly be for a girl he liked. Then will brought said painting to the airport with him. Mike asked about it, but then he avoids asking further after he’s told by Will that it’s the painting. He even seemed even more awkward after hearing that 🌞
@justpeachybaby5929
@justpeachybaby5929 2 ай бұрын
Is that not because of what you said? He already knew about the painting from els letter? He maybe didn't feel the need to ask further, as he knew what it was
@MT3A
@MT3A 2 ай бұрын
@@justpeachybaby5929 I believe that’s what I said. I was saying that when he found out that the thing Will was holding was the painting El mentioned, he seemed more awkward and avoided asking anything else about it
@justpeachybaby5929
@justpeachybaby5929 2 ай бұрын
@@MT3A I didn't really read it like that in my opnion they both sorta dropped each other as friends when will moved, and I think Mike's entrance was so anti climatic for will, will expects more from mike as he likes him but mike seems completely clueless. But I respect your opnions
@MT3A
@MT3A 2 ай бұрын
@@justpeachybaby5929 Oh, ok? I was just saying something I thought I noticed about Mike’s behavior.
@justpeachybaby5929
@justpeachybaby5929 2 ай бұрын
@@MT3A no yeah I agree, I just seen as differently that's why I added the comment but he knew what the painting was, I just didn't read him being awkward I seen it more as he knew what it was and didn't care to ask further
@aeonushuu
@aeonushuu Жыл бұрын
If he's not queer he's just a terribly written character 💀
@aeonushuu
@aeonushuu Жыл бұрын
This is a joke. Partially
@roxy4447
@roxy4447 Жыл бұрын
Not a joke...
@Alexandra-fk7wi
@Alexandra-fk7wi 9 ай бұрын
7:52 Lucas also has a sister Erica so mikes not the only one with a sister
@slepuns
@slepuns Ай бұрын
25:04 I AGREEE im neurodivergent and omggg ur so right this is so real. i also think that mike has adhd so that would explain that behavior
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Жыл бұрын
I think it would be awesome if Mike & Will dated (I was just like Will growing up in the 80s), but I doubt the Duffer brothers were planning for Mike to come out. Even Millie Bobby Brown said she hopes Eleven gets married in the end. She also said she wants one musical episode, I doubt either will happen.😄
@ramen_andanime
@ramen_andanime Жыл бұрын
Eh, I disagree. I’m just saying my thoughts so don’t come at me I think Mike and will are gonna both come out in s5 and eleven and Mike will have a fight and end up breaking up and then eleven comes to respect Mike and wills feelings for eachother. Just my opinion, idk
@Girlypop7381
@Girlypop7381 2 ай бұрын
@@ramen_andanimeI see El and Mike breaking up because it’s clear that both of them aren’t happy together and when they were friends, they seemed happy but it felt like they were forced into a relationship. I do Hope Mike and Will come out because it’s just so obvious they both like each other😭🙏
@ramen_andanime
@ramen_andanime 2 ай бұрын
@@Girlypop7381 I totally agree!
@urlocalbylershipper
@urlocalbylershipper Жыл бұрын
First
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
I never thought I’d get a “first” comment 😅. This is the highlight of my career.
@Schnappsessed5367
@Schnappsessed5367 9 ай бұрын
Yaaaa I am a Byler too but no one agrees
@annaguruli5028
@annaguruli5028 Жыл бұрын
For some reason I have the feeling that Will or is going to be with Mike or die. Am I crazy?
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
No you’re not dw! I think it’s entirely possible, I just hope it doesn’t happen cuz I love the party sm and would hate to see them get hurt. But realistically we might lose a major character next season.
@samanthae.1002
@samanthae.1002 Жыл бұрын
They already tried to bury the gay. Surely they won’t again. The whole Crux of the first two seasons was protect will. If they kill him…then what was the point of the show?
@annaguruli5028
@annaguruli5028 Жыл бұрын
@@samanthae.1002 idk, hope for the better
@shelly5016
@shelly5016 Жыл бұрын
I am a Murray & Alexei shipper ig, so i have bias, but i feel like the duff brothers chose to kill Alexei to not have to elaborate on their relationship. Like how does the russian cop get to live out of the most deadliest situation but alexei dies at a carnival surrounded by people? Any ways i hope byler have a happy ending but like at least a few eps instead of a korrasami ending.
@MariaStar64
@MariaStar64 Жыл бұрын
I don't ship Byler I always see them as friends or have a brotherly relationship cause they give me big brother and little brother vibes
@reichi7213
@reichi7213 Жыл бұрын
@@Ilovejonahhill You don't need to be straight to interpret 2 characters relationship different than you. And I say it as a queer person.
@MarshmallowSketches
@MarshmallowSketches Жыл бұрын
I completely respect that! And I love that you have that perspective and you enjoy the show the way you do
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