NOTION vs ROAM vs OBSIDIAN vs REMNOTE (How to choose the BEST FIT note taking app for you!)

[@KoiAcademy]

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[@sarahcho9497]

just an FYI, Obsidian is working on a mobile app as well, though not yet available :)

[@artexjay]

Your complain for collapsible bullet point for example in Obsidian has been implented

[@mydroid2791]

Sounds like Obsidian just needs to get better, or maybe have a baby with Notion, and then it would be what I am looking for. I.e. A productivity & knowledge app that is designed to store your data locally, or on a [local] NAS storage device you own, so we don't have to worry about e2e encryption (just https and local storage encryption), to store all "notes" one takes in life digitally (learning, research, projects, etc). Oh, and be cross-platform!

[@erinscannon]

Your free course sounds great! Is it only free to Skillshare members? :-(

[@natancieplinski8356]

Important, Obsidian now has the possibility to collapse bullet points, and chapters. Also, Obsidian uses Markdown, not plain text, so your text WILL NOT be chaotic as shown in the video.

[@RudraSingh-pb5ls]

What's markdown ?

[@tusharjamwal]

Natan! Thanks!!! I downloaded Obsidian :)

[@axea4554]

whoa, that's cool

[@gangreyw]

thank you

[@randomrock1885]

obsidian also got an android app btw. I don't have an ios device so can't say about that

[@jvpadilla9905]

All of them are good for note taking, organizing and reviewing. Have tried all of them together with anki and quizlet. But what made me transfer to Remnote is the ability of it to make flash cards at the get go. Since time is very important and is limited especially in college, being able to organize your notes and review immediately using active recall is definitely a must.

[@daedgoco]

did you try roam as well?

[@enricojanssen1709]

An updated video of this would be interesting because it changed a lot. Notion for example has now also backlinks and remnote has also mobileapps...

[@DustlyFog]

yeah obsidian and remnote also changed alot, I think they was 3 months old when this was released now. And its been like 2 years now too.

[@maribethdeshotel693]

I agree. It would be great to do a comparing Notion and RemNote.

[@DanielKoss]

Great video. Helped me to understand why everyone is hyping roam but it felt wrong for me. I'm more looking for something like notion where i can document and share information in an organisation.

[@KoiAcademy]

Glad we could help, and yes notion would be the best for that, thanks for watching !

[@TristanBailey]

Note. While obsidian is not outliner the option can be turned on to fold on headings so you can get similar effect if needed.

[@DrJonTam]

I like how you made the distinction between knowledge and productivity. Thanks for the time stamps!

[@KoiAcademy]

Glad it was helpful!

[@SethDrebitko]

Obsidian technically has a very open and flexible collaboration capability. Because the underlying "vault" sits on top of a file directory you can achieve the following: - access on mobile via something like Ulysses or IA writer. - collaborate with others by storing a vault in a cloud file storage solution or even github - collaborators can choose whatever markdown editor they are comfortable with so if they don't like obsidian they could collab and spend their whole time in Ulysses or IA writer

[@KoiAcademy]

thanks for sharing these workarounds! We were mainly speaking about native collaboration features in the apps, but i agree these would work well 👍

[@mahmoudch7628]

Me as a student who spends more time looking for note-taking apps rather than studying XD

[@HumanSystems]

Notion has backlink feature - for databases and pages

[@someonenotyou]

I wish Remnote and Notion would make a baby. That'll be perfect haha Thanks for the comparison! Edit/Update: It appears that remnote has not made a baby with their current update. RemNotion it is!

[@KoiAcademy]

agreeed 😂 you’re very welcome! Are you currently using any of these apps?

[@KoiAcademy]

Noelani-mei Ascio awesome, so stoked you found our channel, and always a pleasure to find another medical student :) when is your step 1? I’m so glad I finished mine recently haha. Yup I agree with you that Anki has a lot of users sharing their decks. RemNote is working on implementing an “Anki Importer” type feature which will be a game changer.

[@someonenotyou]

@@KoiAcademy Congratulations on finishing STEP 1! Mine is not till next spring/summer. Honestly, I'll probably switch to RemNote for third year. Only sticking with anki right now because I started with it. Although, I can't wait for the "anki importer" update! hopefully soon :)

[@InquisitiveEngineer]

That baby would probably be named... ...wait for it... RemNotion.

[@KoiAcademy]

QuantumFork lol 😂

[@technocera]

00:00 Comparison of powerful note-taking programs 01:31 Comparison of productivity features, relational linking features, accessibility, and unique strengths of note-taking apps 02:46 Note-taking apps have varying features for productivity and studying. 04:14 Note-taking apps compared for personal knowledge management 05:40 Comparison of note-taking apps: Rome and Obsidian vs Notion 07:05 Comparison of note-taking apps 08:25 Notion, Obsidian, and Roam Research are amazing tools for personal knowledge management. 09:40 Rep Note is an app for effective studying

[@torspedia]

I'm an active Roam (for my 'messy' thoughts and outlining) and Notion (for project management) user. I'm also, however, looking at Obsidian (for my personal wiki and writing rough drafts) and Rem for studying. So I can see use cases for all four of those apps!

[@KoiAcademy]

that was our goal! all the apps can certainly do all study, project management, and notetaking, but they're all unique as well :)

[@torspedia]

@@KoiAcademy indeed they are :-)

[@TheDallasDwayne]

@@torspedia Have You found disadvantages to having Your notes/knowledge spread across multiple platforms? Not having it centralized seems like an issue for me which is the biggest reason keeping me from venturing into some of these new platforms.

[@torspedia]

@@TheDallasDwayne for me, I prefer to not have as much of my information as possible on multiple platforms, in case one of them decides to pull the plug. Not having everything in one basket, in other words. The only real downside is the time taken to copy notes over, especially translating them into different formats. That said, however, with my learning style it gives me the opportunity to go through the information once again, so it gradually gets added to my long-term memory!

[@TheDallasDwayne]

@@torspedia Thanks for the feedback. That's a neat thought about added mental processing with transferring them from one format to another.

[@abdulla6741]

From my opinion, Roam cons are: 1- you may lose data since many users report that. 2- it is not sustainable since they ask for $15 per month. RemNote cons are: 1- small bugs there and here are a lot. 2- the layout looks not smooth. 3- They don’t have active community. Obsidian cons are: only they don’t have block referencing, but they the option that I have chosen because: 1- free 2- local 3- great graph view.

[@KoiAcademy]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I think you bring up very good points for each one 👍🏼

[@Azn_Bran]

I 100% agree with your points, however, the biggest con for me with Obsidian is that it feels awkward to use. The systems own "friction" was something I never overcame and that caused me to use it far less than I would have liked. Roam seems to have removed all of the friction for me and a tool that I love to use trumps nearly everything for me. I will pay for a good tool, and I am sure over time with their level of success they will address the bugs/data loss. (I actually had dataloss and spoke with the founder himself about the issue, they do care and are trying to address how quickly they are growing).

[@geekmeee]

Everybody has a different reason for using these tools. I think it’s great that we have choice!

[@ninjaduck3534]

Block referencing was just announced a fortnight ago! 👍

[@cheeseandnachosgamin]

Keep in mind, Obsidian has made great strides since the publication of this video. Pretty much all the cons highlighted in this video have been resolved in some way.

[@mahdi7d1rostami]

4:00 But as far as I know obsidian can have plugins and probably even if it doesn't have these features you can find a plugin to do it and if there is no plugin you can write it yourself. Things like space repetition should be possible to implement.

[@CoachViva]

Each note taking app is actually pretty useful! Thanks for comparing and showing us what is the best app to use for different scenarios!

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for watching!

[@hongkonger1964]

Thank you for a very useful comparison, which I first watched back in fall 2020, when I began considering a tool for my studies at law school. I am glad that I chose RemNote for my studies and it has helped me tremendously. I have recently begun toying with Obsidian for PKM. Both RemNote and Obsidian have come a long way since this video. However, other than built-in active recall and spaced repetition, RemNote still has one extremely useful feature that is not yet possible with Obsidian, namely portals, probably because Obsidian is based on markdown text rather than rems (or blocks in the case of Roam).

[@gubrandao123]

RemNote is just the best!!!! I would really give the devs a big kiss and hug if i could!

[@KoiAcademy]

haha we'll send the message along 😀 thanks for watching

[@saadzfold2150]

Sameeee

[@Arrow333]

Three years later and knowing some of the apps, it is really interesting seeing how much has changed compared to the versions this video is based upon.

[@aungthuhein007]

This seriously needs an update.

[@Uptimind]

For Mac users, there are also apps like Curio, Scrivener, and Tinderbox. Curio excels at being very visual and can do a lot. Tinderbox is very nerdy, but as powerful as Roam, Obisidian, and Rem.

[@reggydavis]

I would love if you turned this into a recurring update series every 6 months or so, considering these apps are the future. Remnote now has a graph view now and notion has backlinking. I'm sure there are other updates I'm not listing.

[@mikethelma]

Boy, you guys are everywhere. It took me until 8 minutes into this video (after watching a number of others) to hear that RemNote has no app. It is online only and therefore my data is not secure, personal, or private. That is too bad. It seemed interesting but going back to the early 1970s world of hosted timeshare computing is not my cup of tea. It boggles my mind that anyone would put the work into a new app and then not let me download it. All of that said, you guys do a good job of comparing apps. Obviously no one in their right mind would get involved with Roam ... as soon as I found out their pricing model I removed the free version from my PC. Who would even waste the time learning an app with that kind of rapacious business model? At the moment I'm learning Obsidian and it seems to do the job for me. We shall see. :)

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for taking the time to write this! At RemNote we are currently working on the app, we hope to have things ready to go soon. Obsidian is a great choice as well! They have an awesome dev team

[@AmeeliaK]

The data is offline in your browser but I don't know how that will scale. They are using meteor for development which could have performance issues when the knowledge base gets bigger. And you can export everything into different formats like markdown. I agree that direct offline data would be much better.

[@samamirrezaie6438]

I think we really needed such a video. Too many choices can sometimes make decision making confusing. Your video made my view a lot clearer. Thank you.

[@kanedodgson9684]

I moved from Roam to Obsidian a few months ago. I still have a Roam account but never use it. Obsidian is really cool, getting better daily and is the best option for the confidentiality of my notes and the notes and the therapeutic notes I make on my clients. Having the ability to have several (often 5) windows open of different pages far outshines roam. Recent updates mean to me there is nothing that I need in Roam anymore. Obsidian is a winner for me. Roam is a good tool but it comes at a price both financial and some, sometimes iffy cult mentality

[@KoiAcademy]

obsidian is growing fast and for good reason. thanks for taking the time to share your experience

[@kanedodgson9684]

@@KoiAcademy your welcome you make really good and clear videos a joy to wach

[@colindouglas7415]

Thank you for the review. This is very comforting to hear, so thanks for good info

[@sawankumarsahoo577]

You give people what they actually ask. 👍

[@KoiAcademy]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@Atokxn]

An update to this video would be super cool, as obsidian greatly improved recently !

[@tamNguyen-dq6yw]

I personally use Obsidian, however there’s a good chance that I’ll be moving over to Remnote instead to capitalize on those spaced repetition and active recall features ;) perhaps I’ll use Obsidian for casual note taking, but Ive always desired the ability to intertwine jotting down notes with effective study methods. Also, amazing video! Based on the diversity of conclusions in the comments on which software would be best for the commenter, you guys seemed to nail down a factual, unbiased perspective :D

[@KoiAcademy]

Appreciate your input on this, and thanks for watching :)

[@aayushjaiswal3781]

This is one of the most useful productivity videos But an update will be really nice as a lot has changed in the last 2 years.. **I REQUEST AN UPDATED VIDEO ON THE TOPIC**

[@annaf8143]

Please make an updated version of this comparison since a lot of new features have been added to each tool. I would love to watch that! Greetings :)

[@randalfmajere7239]

Hi guys, I am here again cs really appreciate the clever comparison pointing out that none of the app is THE best, but each can be our best according to our needs. I just ask you if you made an upgrade of this videocomparison considering the new features that each app may have implemented in the last 2 years or so. I think it would be great, thanks!

[@music123music9]

Yeah. I was thinking just this. It would be great if they see this comment.

[@ChumX100]

Obsidian now has the ability to toggle sections, it has mobile apps and collaboration options. Time to make a new comparison?

[@willhikearizona]

Trying to find a note taking app for school, and this was the best video by far I've watched. I needed a comprehensive overview of all the note taking apps so I could make a decision. Good work! I think I'm going to use Remnote. I also liked Roam because of the map but they don't have a free one you can try.

[@oldrichpolreich7174]

I started looking at these apps after researching zettelkasten method. I’m primarily using iPad Pro so notion is big nope (their mobile app is not very good in managing notes). ROAM sounds awesome and I tried trial, but 15$/month is just too much for me at a time. So I ended up with Rem Note and never looked back. I personally like it even more then roam. It truly feels like a “tool”, not app. No flashy graphics, everything extremely basic and straight to the point. My brain instantly switches to work mode when I see the interface. Took some work to learn all features, but it is worth it!

[@KoiAcademy]

that’s amazing thanks for sharing your thoughts. What limitations do you find with Notion on Ipad Pro? (i have one too and it’s mostly been okay however i do most my writing on a laptop). And RemNote is a great choice, packed with features but also has all the core functions 👍

[@oldrichpolreich7174]

Mike and Matty To my knowledge, you need to be in desktop or browser app to modify/delete workspace in notion. Since I’m only using iPad, I’m out of luck. I tried the workaround and launch browser app in safari but it still figures out I’m on iPad = no options (and yes, I tried forcing desktop version of page). This kinda put me off. I understand that I’m a special case with only iPad, but still...

[@KoiAcademy]

Haha I think you make a good case. I’ve definitely been trying to “replace” my laptop with my iPad Pro but I’ve been held back by similar issues with other programs too. That’s good to know about notion. I also find it a lot harder to manipulate the actual pages themself in notion on iPad. thanks for sharing!

[@lyrical2351]

Link to block of notes/link to headers is really an important difference to me for making a Zettelkasten! Thank you for you well-organized video!

[@edudecnop]

it is worth to redo this comparison, as many features are now implemented.

[@Cosmopotamian]

This video is old. Almost anything said that Obsidian lacks is already available as a plugin today. There is just not enough words to emphasize how much Obsidian can do today just because of the plugins.

[@videodude5337]

Proud to be subscribed to a channel that will be very big very soon! Amazing videos!

[@kanmedlife2494]

Rightly said

[@KoiAcademy]

☺️ thank you, This is the best thing I’ve heard all day!

[@Dom-qo9cf]

Clear video, I liked that you made a distinction between productivity and organizing knowledge (as someone who struggles with both)

[@TheAmazinRaven1]

Just saw y’all focus on evidence based studying methods & knowledge management. I think I just found my new favorite channel 🤩

[@kikokoussi7594]

Idk the rest, but I like notion cuz I can put downloaded files and video recordings, and also embed widgets and other videos from the web. You can paste a block or page link in a page as a link back. I also love the reminder and automation of adding of new rows in a database at a scheduled time, which is good for habit tracking and more. Definitely a good tool for studying and managing a personal lifestyle. Students also get an educational account for free which is a bonus for premium features. I'm now considering remnote as it has the space repetition feature which I need to remember tons of things.

[@IntentionalMarriages]

You've definitely stimulated to build my knowledge base via one of these apps. Currently it's housed in so many different vehicles. Great comparison video!

[@KoiAcademy]

thanks for watching! BTW, so sorry we missed your message on fb waaay back when. hope we left you something to start with. good luck!

[@IntentionalMarriages]

@@KoiAcademy no worries my friend. got your message!! thank you!!

[@sasha_nivar]

i currently have all of my notes on google keeps and my rocket 🚀 bullet journal definitely going to try both notion and obsidian ! thanks

[@tullochgorum6323]

Useful review. I've been experimenting with note-taking systems since the '70s, and always end up back with Buzan-style mindmaps. Mapping forces you to process the incoming knowledge proactively as you work out the associations you want and try to make sense of the ideas. Plus the keywords and graphical nature of the approach assist with overview. And good mindmapping software allows for linking between maps and nodes. These associative apps aren't a new idea - see TheBrain, for example, which has been around for years. But they are very text dense, and don't force you to process your thinking or to create overview, and you end up with a very loosely organised web of atomic snippets. In the end, all knowledge is hierarchical - mindmapping and associative noting are both based on outlining under the hood. The question is, which encourages the clearest, most efficient thinking habits? For me, it's mindmapping all the way.

[@juanantoniogonzalez8729]

I doo it all by hand, thiking to switch digital¿Wich one you choose ?

[@tullochgorum6323]

@@juanantoniogonzalez8729 Depends. I tend to do all first-draft maps by hand - it feels more direct, with no cognitive load from the software. If it's a quick and dirty map for immediate use (eg for a blog post) I leave it at that. If it's something I might use longer term for reference or revision, I'll often do a cleaned up draft in Ayoa (much the best software, in my view, but I hate their pricing model).

[@juanantoniogonzalez8729]

@@tullochgorum6323 Thanks for the reply, im not ....so convinced to switch to digital i feel the process of hand write things its more meaningful vs the sake of collect data but maybe in my master i give this BIG WORD OF digital systems a chance.

[@ulegspidey9484]

Thanks for sharing your opinion! It seems like all of them are very good, but I will be using RemNote for studying

[@KoiAcademy]

RemNote is amazing for students! Good choice my friend

[@willoyd]

Great, great video, folks. Congratulations on helping the community with the only comprehensive video comparing all these tools.

[@KoiAcademy]

Always happy to help!

[@yeosonlee]

Clear comparison of each not taking app, I will choose Notion for project and lift management, and Obsidian as my second brain for writing 😃

[@mmlvt6658]

3:28: In Obsidian u can place bullet points :) Furthermore, great vid!

[@AMBD90]

Perfect video. So useful as it helps us decide which one instead of wasting time explaining one.

[@STEELPHIT]

Awesome video guys. Keep creating!

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks! That means a lot :)

[@mepravi]

Obsidian has outliner functionality. Make a heading. Then an arrow will appear on the side of it. You can collapse it.

[@LukeBares]

I use Notion right now for all my studying. But after watching this video I will definitely take a look on Remnote for the next semester.

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for watching, and I hope you find it helpful! You can find all the tutorials here: bit.ly/RemNoteTutorials

[@LukeBares]

@@KoiAcademy Thank you for the tip! I watched them and will try to use Remnote instead of Notion for the next theme in January. I am also quite excited about the new Mac app. Still waiting for the iOS app though ;)

[@music123music9]

This is the way how the things are to be explained. I was struggling to find good combinations of note taking systems. And your time stamps are helping me a lot. Thank you guys.

[@jaxx-inspiregrowcreate2862]

I was thinking about getting Notion. Thanks for this!

[@KoiAcademy]

no problem! Thanks for watching 😀

[@korpotalk]

hey guys, obsidisn is able to include references: [^1] they'll appear as footnotes at the end of the text in reading mode.

[@JonDotExe]

*side note: The "time consuming step of transcribing notes into flashcards" has been proven to be largely responsible for the highest level of information retention.*

[@minecraftotalwar]

Ok link the study

[@ceafva]

Thanks, guys. You added clarity to why I've been confused. It seems I need for two, not one that does it all. Notion for productivity and another (still not sure of) for personal acknowledge management (I am a writer, researcher, which is probably Roam. I've been turned off by roam's pricing.

[@Azn_Bran]

Good job guys! I really do agree with your assessment, especially since I have experienced all 4 of these systems. I found friction to be the biggest driver for me and therefore love Roam Research. As for Notion, I started there and still use it because its the only one that is collaborative. I maintain my D&D campaigns there and my entire gaming group (we've been playing together for 28 years) adds data.

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for sharing your journey! It’s always interesting to see how people use these tools and how they discover new ways to improve their workflow :) have you tried RemNote?

[@Azn_Bran]

@@KoiAcademy I did create an account but haven't really dived in. I am not a student and I understand that the spaced repetition support is the primary killer feature of Remnote, but I will look into it further.

[@sashachan6556]

Thank you for very much for this video!! It was super useful!

[@kier_eli]

Logseq now does what Obsidiam, Roam and Remnote do together. So Notion + Logseq could be a way to go for productivity and knowledge/learning.

[@noeliag.8545]

Great video! Very informative, helpful and concise and I loved the comparison charts. Thank you for creating this! Will definitely try out Notion and am leaning towards Remnote for a long term knowledge based mgt. system. Although Obsidian seems to have beautiful design graphs, so we shall see how the test drive goes. Super excited!!

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for watching! And goodluck, it’s a hard choice especially since all the apps are growing so quickly

[@RightTouchMatters]

Very helpful. I've been twisting my brain finding and comparing Zettelkasten software with no real conclusion as to which to go with. Your comparison helped me knock a few off the list. Many thanks.

[@drorharari]

Note that the video did not age well. Obsidian now has a mobile app as well as all the other items I didn't have then

[@DannyHatcherTech]

I will say I am biased towards Notion at the start of this comment. When you say Notion struggles with spaced repetition and flashcards I respectfully disagree, it is possible in Notion using databases. I have a video on my channel showing that. Bio linking I agree is not in Notin typically but you can link between pages inline text and other blocks or pages of databases using the copy link feature. The sidebar is a good point, for me I have two screens so that is my workaround. Overall I think Notion has greater versatility in more areas which is my preference but the other apps definitely have advantages over Notion. Great video for comparison and I am excited to see where the apps go!

[@KoiAcademy]

Hey Danny, thanks for the insightful comment! Very cool how you stress effective study methods in Notion as well. The reason we say RemNote is superior is the native development of spaced repetition into the program itself. I think removing friction of setting up flashcards and get studying is really important. This is one of RemNote's core features, and I would not say that to be true for Notion (although as you pointed out, a workaround for any situation can be arranged). Thanks for watching!

[@DannyHatcherTech]

@@KoiAcademy Ok that is fair. I have not used RemNote so don't know how it works. As long as it is quick, convenient and organized it doesn't matter the app. Which I know Notion has and I assume RemNote has.

[@gantonioesser]

Great video. I am Brazilian and I was having a hard time trying to find content about those apps in Portuguese. Also, I think that I will certainly improve my taking note skills using one of these. Thank you ;)

[@Nosjjddjjd]

it feels like you're underestimating obsidian it does have a toggle feature available in edit mode and even though it doesn't have a mobile app yet, the text can be synced and edited through a dropbox or onedrive on mobile great video as always

[@KoiAcademy]

thanks for sharing! We didn’t meant to underestimate Obsidian, I think it has a beautiful customizable interface. (the toggle aspect slipped my mind, it wasn’t a feature back when i was more of a regular user). But that’s true you can save to a cloud storage! What kind of app do you use on your mobile to access markdowns?

[@SridharKatakam]

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[@KoiAcademy]

Interesting thanks for sharing! 1writer is not a free app?

[@jalabi99]

Notion's lack of end to end encryption is a dealbreaker

[@cooldude588]

Agree. Also Notion also lack of simple table and basic text formatting (alignment and justification) .

[@onemillionpercent]

Thank you so much!!! All these apps pretty much cover everything used together, but then it can get messy and clutter-y. I think I'm going to try to use RemNote! Thank you smmmm for this comparison video again :))

[@KoiAcademy]

You are sooo welcome thank you for watching :)

[@MillenniumVT_Official]

Please make an updated version because notion has backlinks now. I want to know how to use notion propery but the backlinking part is still hard for me lol

[@dr.patnesbitt]

Great review. You really were very objective and helpful.

[@nathans.509]

Glad the algorithm suggested your channel! Excellent video, thank you!

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for watching! Are you using any of these apps?

[@nathans.509]

@@KoiAcademy I've tried a couple of times to get going with Notion, but it gets in my way. I would love something that combines Notion + RemNote! Watched your other two videos, and seriously considering RemNote. Congrats on your channel. Your videos are really easy to watch, and good info! I'm now a subscriber! 😊

[@TheJazzmoose]

Thanks for great content guys. I just started with Obsidian today and it does have folding outline features (v0.8) - possibly they weren’t there when you recorded this? SRS in Remnote looks useful however Obsidian has sold me on the local plain text portability and the awesome graph view.

[@KoiAcademy]

TheJazzmoose obsidian is a great choice and I think you’ll be very happy with it! Remnote allows you to store text locally now, and also has a graph view now as a plugin!

[@d1ego80]

Well explained! Great work!

[@synactorg]

Incredibly helpful. Thank you very much

[@TheRedjinator]

Great review guys, thanks it helped clarify things for me.

[@yodaheabebe7268]

Obsidian for Personal Knowledge Management + Notion for Productivity 🙌

[@GarlandCoulson]

Thank you for your well thought out comparisons. As a time management coach, I am always looking for and trying new productivity tools. I had used Notion extensively, am currently trying Roam and had tested Obsidian, but prefer an online version. Hadn't tried RemNote yet, so I will look into it.

[@KoiAcademy]

Wow, so glad to have your input coming from your background. Would love to hear your thoughts after you try everything

[@GarlandCoulson]

@@KoiAcademy Thanks guys! I am currently testing RemNote by using it for all my notes this week. One thing I liked about Roam Research is how it automatically created pages when I put in a topic. I assume I would use Tags on RemNote to replicate this functionality? Also Roam was very focused on a daily focus, but with RemNotes ability to create folders and documents, do you still find creating a document for each day useful?

[@KoiAcademy]

@@GarlandCoulson Yes, every single bullet point you make in RemNote automatically becomes its own page, just click on the bullet to jump into that page. And yes, our favorite way to use RemNote is the daily document (daily focus). Whenever you create a new document in the sidebar next to "Document" you will automatically create a new document with today's date on it. Def recommend checking this tutorial series as well, you will find that RemNote and Roam are more similar than most people think: bit.ly/RemNoteTutorials

[@rjvidalt1]

Thanks so much Mike and Matty. This has been extremelly useful. I ahve now subscribe to your channel and to your instagram account. Keep the good work, you are helping a lot of people

[@lizagueniat]

I have to use Notion at work, but for my private projects I prefer to use Workflowy - been addicted to it since January.

[@KoiAcademy]

thanks for sharing! Workflowy is great :) It shares a lot of commonality with RemNote, Roam, and Obsidian as well in regards to tree-notetaking

[@woodenshoes2]

Why no comparison to Workflowy, who says they will have backlinking within the next month? Great video and thank you for a great review guys!

[@venkatkumar2130]

Can you please make an updated video of this? I like the idea of separating PKM and Productivity apps. They overlap and also serve different purposes. Considering craft and logseq are the latest new apps, it would be good if you feature them as well based on these parameters you have covered in this video.

[@damandarin5415]

We need an update video on all these softwares - excluding Notion as I feel like it has become its own thing now, and maybe not ROAM because it costs so much

[@tsulum4668]

Yall are always there when I'm searching anything school related ;u;, thank you

[@KoiAcademy]

We always here for you :) what other school questions do you have?

[@tsulum4668]

@@KoiAcademy at the moment, none lol

[@SirRichard94]

obsidian does have folding for active recall and outlining. you have to enable it on settings. also it can work with anki for spaced repetition,

[@AlexRider5601]

When using Remnote, would it be more effective to take notes straight from the textbook into Remnote, or from the textbook to Notabillity and then into Remnote? I'm sure both have their upsides and downsides but I'd be interested to hear what you guys prefer doing :) Regards:: Mantis

[@KoiAcademy]

Hi Mantis :) that’s a tricky question since Notability notes are handwritten. RemNote (or any of the apps we discuss in this video) won’t be able to search for handwritten text. I’d say that if you can get a PDF version of your textbook and take notes with RemNote that way, it would be faster because you can take screenshots and paste them into RemNote. And for notability, you’ll have to export as images and then paste them into RemNote. I have to do this step since I also use notability in class. I then try to summarize everything before transferring to RemNote for very focused and well organized flash cards

[@AlexRider5601]

Thanks for the reply, must say I love the professionalism of your videos, I’m finding them really informative and can’t wait for more. When school starts back up again, I’ll continue using Notability in my classes for sure. I have been using screenshots into Remnote from a PDF textbook for chemistry and it's been super easy to take screenshots of photos and diagrams and paste them into Remnote within seconds, making great flashcards. I have another question, what is the use of the 'Latex' option with the funky looking letters, is that for sub and superscript? How do you get sub and superscript in the app, is there a way to do that?

[@KoiAcademy]

Latex would be be the option for subscripts at the moment. Personally I don’t have much experience using Latex (I study medicine and we don’t need to write complex math equations haha) so I couldn’t speak more on how to use it. I know many community members could def help you out there :) but we are considering adding more modifiers to Rem to include those features in the future!

[@KoiAcademy]

What do you study? Happy you found RemNote to be a good tool!

[@AlexRider5601]

Mike and Matty sounds good! Thank you so much!

[@nataliafoster524]

It would be awesome to get a update to this! A lot has changed over the last couple of years and I would like to see how Taskade compares to these apps

[@victorivens05]

Congratulations on the content, hope you guys grow (ESL - I have english as a second language)

[@KoiAcademy]

Thank you Victor! Glad you found it helpful

[@tanyaannbrown]

Awesome break down guys!!

[@KoiAcademy]

of course! Hope you’re doing well Tanya :)

[@traianivanescu24]

Thanks for the video. I found RoamResearch presently but just before this video I watched another video about Obsidian and I thought I should go with it. However, after watching your video, I found RemNote very interesting, particularly for their active recall space repetition cards which I love. In addition to that, it is free. I haven't checked RemNote yet but from what I saw in this video, I find Roam's design sleeker. I don't know if they updated anything since you made the video but RemNote has an older design look than Roam. I can live with that.

[@joycefrilles]

Personally, I think notion is good for tracking things, and the rest of whatever you wanna do is outside notion. Particularly, I agree that remnote is a good note taking app since I discovered it and I like the simplicity of it. I will be using this once school starts next year.

[@EarlWallaceNYC]

Well Done. Very helpful review.

[@edkensalexandre7043]

My issue now is how to import my notes from Notion to Remnote....

[@thehaag378]

Meanwhile children in Africa have to eat notebooks to survive.

[@KoiAcademy]

that would be AWESOME, hope there will be a way to do this moving forward!

[@Justin-kp8py]

I have the same issue

[@MichaelToub]

Thank you for the product comparison matrix. That saved me a lot of time!

[@KoiAcademy]

Glad it was helpful, and happy to see you found our channel!

[@infobiomedix_unam]

! thank you for this video, is very clear, and for now... We need a new video for analyzing the new mobile apps

[@jjfscheffer]

Great overview of note taking apps: succinct summary of the key points with some very astute observations!

[@KoiAcademy]

Thanks for watching! It’s crazy how quickly these note taking apps are updating

[@terrynewmanphotography]

Superb comparison guys. Using Roam myself as like the simplicity. I think RemNote has a cluttered look but clearly leading on the learning aspects.

[@KoiAcademy]

Totally agree with your thoughts there, Roam def has a cleaner interface. Once RemNote’s UI is cleaner things may change though haha. Thanks for watching :)

[@ArtiGisz]

It would be nice if you recorded a new video after such a long time and compared these applications again to where they are now.

[@darkteamboy]

if u can please do a video comparing one note notion and remnote

[@krisvanhouten1543]

I was, and in some ways still am, a big Notion fanboy. But the app just feels sluggish. As a result, I always hesitate to log notes there, especially when I'm on my phone. After recently learning about Zettelkasten, I also discovered Obsidian, and I love it. Sure it doesn't have all the fancy features of Notion, but all the files are stored locally, as Markdown, so I can transport them anywhere. With features like Latex Equations and Mermaid Charts, it's a great app that's also simple and snappy. For an app that just came out a couple months ago, and with the speed at which they are developing, I'm confident it will continue to become better.

[@KoiAcademy]

Obsidian is an amazing app. You could always use both Notion and Obsidian since they both excel at different areas

[@BlossomWithJessica]

Great video! Thank you so much! This helped in choosing the management app I will use. I think I am going with Notion!

[@KoiAcademy]

Always happy to help!

[@RelLinkWish]

Subbed - excellent video guys, keep up the great work!

[@KoiAcademy]

Hey welcome aboard! If you’re looking for more note-taking videos, check out the series that we just published yesterday !