HAND CANNONEER (Bohemians) vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT (Total Resources) | AoE II: Definitive Edition

[@Artuditu123]

If using bohemian HC, I'd compare them to castle age UUs

[@floriankulik7965]

U are definitely right

[@GvF11]

Good to know that flaming camels are a cost effective counter to hc

[@Asterix958]

+5 HP is stronger than it seems. Old HC die infantries in 3 hits but now it stand until 4 hits (which is 33% more resistance) except Viking Berserk and Aztec champion. Elite Janissary should get +4 hp (total 55 HP) as well and royal janissary skin.

[@coxxen]

so they are just faster, right? (not counting the buff of this patch, which is for every civ that has access to it)

[@gamesandstuff127]

That's it. Well, that and they can be made in the castle age.

[@loganvervicos8395]

This test shows the importance of the rams. Put all the defeated infantry in to come close to the HC and the results would highly change

[@pioneerAv]

Hey Mike you need to update your Dawn of the Dukes section in the description, it still says upcoming dlc and unknown civs

[@jeremyadam6947]

you should do like 6 or 4 hussite wagons + rest HC on equal ressources vs all unique

[@manishjape3196]

Indian elephants are like "no ... dont do that .. it tickles me!" Deadly, ... not a single Indian elephants died where even tankier multiple Persian elephants were killed

[@varunmanjunath9123]

Yeah, one did die by a whisker, but because half of them stopped firing, combined with pathing issue... Honestly thought, elephant archers should get +2 range (or at least +1)... How can an elephant archer have the same range as a foot archers... come on devs!

[@tlacaelelrojasluna8169]

Do this vs castle age units, to really watch how they will perform vs castle age units

I dunno why you dont make the comparisons including the Eagles, steppe lancers and the battle Elephants in either the generic or the unique unit

[@barbiquearea]

They seem to excel against slow moving heavy infantry but not do as well against any sort of cavalry, missile units or artillery.

[@nikhilsutliff4417]

In practice, they can be quite good against cavalry in mass, as you can micro hit and run and they have massive 17 attack. Not good against archers, although you have high attack they will outrange you

[@ardaarsen]

haha slingers beat cannoneers sure.. aoe 2 logic

[@liszarezo3658]

Pánfilo de Narváez lost against slingers when tried conquer Florida.

[@ahmicqui9396]

@@liszarezo3658 Exactly. Perfectly possible in real life. Slings are damn deadly, way faster and way more precise.

[@liszarezo3658]

@@ahmicqui9396 Sling is very hard to use (I tried) but can hurt hard covered body part (I smash my knee for rebound like this, months recover).

[@ahmicqui9396]

@@liszarezo3658 Yes A group of trained slingers is extremely dangerous even to armored enemies

[@liszarezo3658]

@@ahmicqui9396 Enough dangerous to be illegal in Indonesia (If I good remember this were popular in gangs fights.).

[@Felix_EN]

They are supposed to counter infantry yet they lose a lot of the battles vs them (granted with no micro but still)

[@JourneyLT]

Nerf Obuch. They shouldn't be winning this. Increase the price of them, they're cheaper than Militia, or if not that, lower their attack or HP a bit. In return, buff their armour debuff ability, it barely seems to have an effect much of the time.

[@coxxen]

Do it for Spanish 👍

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

Easy to forget that spanish hand cannons fire faster. Conqs are just superior

[@eesaubaydullah4231]

What's special about bohemian hand cannoneers apart from being built in castle age again?

[@davidtoro4218]

I hope somebody can answer me.But whay the hand canoner dosent have a upgrade like the bombard canon to the obus(houfnizer) they look like ballet dancers and they need urgent a reskin.More like 1500's arcabus.That looks more like a hand canyon.Im verry disiponted beacuse i hope that we sould have at a uprgrade with this dlc but nothing.Hand canoners dosent have upgrade😡😡😡😡

[@furkansaryerli]

Bohemian HC are %10 faster.

[@eesaubaydullah4231]

@@furkansaryerli thank you

[@lloydreed4721]

No, its 15%, not only 10.

[@ianaranda4640]

Mike you MUST teste the new turks Hand Cannoners whit 50HP

[@joekost1038]

There are some more Karambit warriors

[@tomek901225]

LOL Viking berserks lost

[@hfreistify]

sry but they are ment to get covered by the warwagons...no one would play them like this