The Photoshoot that made me want to Quit Photography

[@DrewEales]

The “ she loves water, she did a whole movie under water” made me hit that like button 😂

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahaha I appreciate it Drew

[@tylershieldsvideos]

Amazing

[@blakegonter4547]

Bonus episode but Tyler is the photographer and you and Jake act as the celebrity and publicist. Imagine the compositions!

[@Dre_On_Film]

This!!!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I’d mess his life up lol

[@ReimannPembroke]

@@MikeGrayFilm do it Mike hahaha

[@rodrigoparedes4115]

I totally agree!! put Tyler in some trouble!!

[@Meaderf]

Now THIS is content for photographers. It was almost like watching The Office. Entertaining AND educational. Thanks for this. Hopefully we can see more like this. Like how to handle different difficult scenarios. Thanks again man. Huge fan of this channel.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate you bro

[@panelsandbars]

Love how you’re always switching up the format and making it fun to watch. I imagine you’ll never actually be in a situation like that cos you’re a magnet for positive energy .

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate that.

[@whoschrischu]

Mike's laugh @9:56 cracked me tf up. That fake laugh was top-tier

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahaha I was pissed lol

[@HighHatOG]

This is easily the best photography content on KZbin. I always love when it’s the three of you in the videos!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate you!

[@tylershieldsvideos]

Thank you

[@feryutomo4680]

Tyler's challenge is literally a training base camp for photographers lol, I love it

[@MikeGrayFilm]

hahahaa

[@ReclusiveEagle]

I felt like this recently. I asked a friend if I could take some photos of her to practice portraits. She said yes, and she was excited. Long story short she has 12k insta followers (I have 500). We did some street photography it was great. I started editing, after 4 days I was done with the ones I liked, Sent them to her. Then we decided to go out again and shoot and she kept asking for more, more more more photos. She deadass sent me a list of over 40 photos she wanted from that shoot including raw files and I had to ask permission for which photos I could post. During the shoot she started dictating the entire thing asking me to shoot her like this and that. Saying she wanted pictures in this pose at this location ect. Like wtf I just wanted to practice headshots outdoors with a friend. Then it turned into a free shoot where she decided what she wanted and what I should edit and the type of pictures I should take. I haven't edited photos or taken many pictures since then. Like people use you and its disgusting. Best part is after that she got an iPhone 12, removed all the photos on her grid (Including ones I gave her the week before that she "Loved") and started posting iPhone selfies.

[@ReclusiveEagle]

Just to clarify, 3 photos into editing the second shoot I felt so demoralized I told her "No. I'm not doing this, you don't get to dictate the photos I take and where I take them". She apologized for "using me" because she "loved the photos" (again she removed everything a week later). Said sorry she made me feel that way... Then 3 days later asked me "Is it ok to ask to see what you are working on" as if I should continue editing ect. Like fk that. I'm just going to use the photos to practice skin retouching and color grading. I don't even want to post them. Which just makes me feel like I'm practicing and editing for nothing but hey that was my original intention. To *Practice*

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Damn man.

[@adamstreetboyzz]

I shoot professionally. When doing those free shoots you don't need to ask for permissions on what to post.. When I do my free shoots. I send my favorite shots. Shots I feel look good. People who are getting their picture taken. Have a tendcy to pick bad pictures. And that's because they see things about them self they dont like in it that only they see. So they end up choose I worse photo just so they dont have to see it.

[@patfranz17]

This looked like a fun challenge! Finally, a challenge that showed more about the field and the people rather than the gear and techniques. Very entertaining!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

That was definitely the goal!

[@THEMANUC]

This video had me crackin' up!!! Your reactions when dude was shishing you... hilarious! Subscribing now!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

haha welcome to the family 🙌🏾

[@tatianafournier5802]

Wooww... I thought that photography was just about implementing your knowledge, shooting the model and letting your creativity flow, but I was wrong. These challenges are teaching me so much about the importance of knowing how to handle oneself in such situations and the interaction that you ought to have with a client in order to maximize the outcome of the shoot. As demanding as it was, I like how jake dealt with the actress & publicist better but I like how vibrant the colours of your photos are and how editorial they look.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@shaggydelvalle]

"that's not a dress" "oh, I'm sorry, what would you call it?" "Pants and shirt..." "She designed it herself" This cracked me up lol

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Lol 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@KeithPWhite]

"She requires 7 ice cubes" ... I'm dying... "7 CUBES"

[@MikeGrayFilm]

bro, put me through hell.

[@tylershieldsvideos]

Hahaha

[@williamsdimetri]

Mike: I’m sorry what would you call it? Allie:....Pants and a shirt😐 Yoooo these videos are one of the best parts of my Sunday😭

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahaha I’m glad you enjoyed it bro lol

[@roderickfranco]

I never knew learning could be so fun, these videos are literal comedy

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Too much fun man haha

[@lorenzoantigua8571]

As a student surrounded by theatre people I can confirm this behavior is not exclusive to famous actors 😂😂

[@MikeGrayFilm]

😂😂😂

[@MarkusGjengaar]

That moment the client suggestion something I've suggested long time ago is so real...

[@Demariooooo]

Yo, I was laughing throughout the whole vid. Really appreciate these scenarios, it shows how one should approach the situation with different clients.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I'm glad you enjoyed it bro haha

[@gpcy]

Mike this video is brilliant. I don't think I laughed so much in my life. I need to rewatch it to give you a total number of every time you said sorry!!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

😂😂😂

[@ToNyyyy89]

Man keep this content live! this is something new and interesting. Tyler is perfect teacher, i love this idea with acting like real clients!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks! Will do man.

[@arvindabasol4747]

@Mike you rock it! I loved the photos 20:56 is superb! and how you handle the situation is realistic. Been there than that! keep it going.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thank you!

[@troytravince]

mike keep blessing the people with heat. this video was hella funny & informative

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I will do Troy. Thanks.

[@martindrazsky7451]

Haha, I enjoyed this one and imagine there really are clients like this out there. I once shot with a (paid) model who made it clear during the shoot that she'd expected things we were not exactly providing (like vegan food, specific music and "nice" environment"). I thought she would never want to shoot with me again but in fact she reached out a year later and we did another shoot - in a deep ravine in a forest where she ended up bitten by mosquitoes. But the images ended up amazing. I like shooting with models that are prepared to suffer a bit, in the interest of getting amazing images. Not an option with your sort of "Hollywood client", of course, especially if you are just starting out and it is them paying you. Another entertaining episode and I love how you take the best advantage of film in these situations!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

That’s crazy! haha

[@leagolekganyane]

The only channel I clicked the notification bell for.. I'm so glad you're back putting up content

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate you bro

[@InertiaEffect]

I feel so stressed for Mike, even though it was acting. Ahhh!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahaha

[@bryanotero123]

@@MikeGrayFilm i know u made this a year ago but damn. U apologized more than a canadian

[@mithraea1]

That was awesome, I've been missing your videos! Loved your colour shots, you performed well under pressure!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks Craig!

[@nw_lhp]

bro im so happy this video was aslong as it is! so entertaining! lounge chair photo of allie was amazing

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate you.

[@Ansaranick1]

Best one yet! Don’t get mad if I steal these video challenge ideas. Love the one in the grass man. Great work as always!!!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Do ya thing Nick haha! Thanks for watching

[@rodrigoparedes4115]

Bravisimo Mike!! I love this kind of content!!! keep going!! having Tyler being a jerk client was awesome!! I love these shootouts! You teach us so much nos just about photography but the whole world around editorial shootings It is just amazing! and congratulations on the photos also!!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks a lot Rodrigo!

[@dannyhigs282]

Might be one of the funniest challenges you guys have done! lol feel for y'all on the struggles there, but the lounge chair Photo is Fuego!!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Haha I appreciate you Danny!

[@shawn5210]

Hey Mike, 9:57 can I buy this print?

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Please email [e-mail] for all print inquiries. 🙌🏾

[@truehypercrab]

The amount of talent in this video is outstanding!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks Dima!

[@bentonblanchard9118]

dude came out the shoot with 3 bangers.... still killing it!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate it

[@JNMoodyPhotography]

Can’t believe it took me this long to find this video! I’m good friends with a long time celebrity photographer from LA that said the exact reason he retired was dealing with the “pricks” in Hollywood. Of course now he owns a vineyard. 😂 Keep rocking it!

[@austinroot6234]

Great video man! Love watching all your videos!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate it Austin

[@Demariooooo]

"I didn't sign up for this shit." 😂😂😂😂

[@MikeGrayFilm]

FACTS! lol

[@spencersanderson4590]

The one with the pool and the chair is so sick

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks Spencer !

[@rudyvelez1741]

😂really high pressure,,patience challenged to the max,,,good actors portraying ass attitudes,,,& yet you came up with your super shots,,good job Mike!!

[@Shotbyasgar]

"I don't care if it's on film, I have to see it. I have to see the photo"

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahaha what a pain

[@leeroimacasinag7943]

this is raw bro! I wanna see more of this type of challenges 💯👌🏻

[@MikeGrayFilm]

More crazy shit coming man. Thanks for watching

[@danwoodliefphotography871]

Fun to watch. How you handled difficulty in this situation is how I wish I could in real life. I try.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

It’s a battle.

[@UrbanElitenetwork]

yoooooooo I felt this, this happened to me as well especially when the guy comes in with his phone to take a pic with his phone lol yall nailed this

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahaha thanks bro

[@causeand3ff3ct]

Damn, Mike! Those three shots are proper keepers - hella impressive work as always brother! *sips chamomile tea*

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks Julian!

[@causeand3ff3ct]

@@MikeGrayFilm anytime! 👏👏👏

[@DMinnisTV]

Love it! Finally content unlike any other photographers on KZbin...got tired of seeing the same photography verzuz

[@MikeGrayFilm]

More to come! thanks a lot.

[@Mav540i]

From 8:04 to 8:27 was a typical photographers frustrated rant. But the catch is the smile at 8:26, wow....good shooting though. “it feels so good”...the sarcasm..lmao

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Lol 😂

[@aram4854]

Woooo!!! Weekly. You guys killed it with what you were given.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks a lot

[@Miniaminism]

I loved the video ! I witnessed and worked on a multi format (photos & videos) shooting going down with Angelina J (yeah). You're missing another role, or multiple ones : agency and clients. You can multiply that pressure and stress by 4x and the stupidity of the situation by 2 :) I'll keep that experience for the rest of my carreer.

[@SamsonArnettRoughley]

Great stuff man, need to take my 67 out sometime soon.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

My favorite camera in the world.

[@pseudo4389]

"We'll make sure we don't tag you" lmaoooo

[@MikeGrayFilm]

he went crazy! lol

[@cammackey]

Aight that was dope bro

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thank you bro.

[@casperjonathan]

I appreciate the longer videoes Mike, I know youtube might not push them as hard but I get more out of it when you take the time to go in depth

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks so much man.

[@tylershieldsvideos]

what a great job you guys all did and so much fun

[@MikeGrayFilm]

You killed it bro haha

[@jakecloobeck]

So much fun!

[@TheDecguy]

I did a great deal of work in a community like the one in this video. Not photography but the same kind of interactions. Now that I’m retired I would tell these kind of people to go take a hike. I acting was so good it made me want to jump into the screen to tell them off. Obviously I work better with inanimate objects in my old age. Thanks to all.

[@Paldentseringsherpa]

Tyler so rich, even the basic coin flip be like with 100$ bill 😭😭😭😭😭

[@MikeGrayFilm]

It be like that hahaha

[@Dre_On_Film]

Definitely feel like the was more harder oh my boy Mike felt like it’s was real straight up more than Jake’s shoot, he had some difficulties but felt like his was just more frustrating and they acted more in the first round. But definitely loving Mikes shots a lot definitely getting a more modern art type of look and feel from his photos can’t wait to see what y’all come up with next!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate the feedback Dre!

[@MichaelCortese1]

The grass one is all color blocking. Love it

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks Michael

[@jmitchphotography]

Cool episode guys!! I really enjoy these and I’m sure it’s helping you guys grow and get the different perspectives.. Tyler seems like a really cool and genuine guy, I’m not sure if anyone else noticed or if it was intentional, at the beginning of the video starting at the 10 second mark to the 24 second mark the butterfly wings are directly on point behind Tyler!! pretty dope!! The wizard with wings..😂 GOD bless guys keep the content and inspiration coming!! 📸

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks a lot J Mitch

[@jmitchphotography]

@@MikeGrayFilm No doubt Mike!

[@seanbrucemedia5695]

That whole "get your shit together" exchange with Mike & 'the publicist' had me in tears!! Hilarious!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

😂😂😂

[@FRONTPhotography]

Love it! Haha. You both smashed it!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks!

[@philippar1568]

I could see the stress on your face 😂 but I liked how you kept your cool. The photos you caught were still fire though. The one with her laying down by the pool was just great to me! I also liked the one in the yellow outfit :)

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate it Luna haha

[@ssrbus6698]

May I ask how you developed the photo? Flush with a Hasselblad x5? or darkroom magnification

[@2Future4U]

usually with shoots like this there would be a team on both sides and before the shoot, shots / ideas and concepts / wardrobe would be agreed on..but man the little details about trying a shoot / being in the photo industry could be with difficult people is so dead on accurate..having flashbacks as an intern at Milk Studios

[@jmitchphotography]

I just noticed the butterfly wings are lined up to Tyler’s back at the end as well... 💯

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Haha

[@kannethabrown8934]

mike always wins

[@geastman]

I thought the "clients" were going to be even more difficult! I think you got three good images. I'm looking forward to the next video!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks Greg!

[@jdpst20]

HAHAH such a great video. " you think your camera can capture that? " I've totally experienced that in real life. Not with a high end fashion shoot or anything, but just with clients in general working with people can totally be a challenge esp when you as the photographer, designer ect have a plan or vision and the client just shits on it.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

LOL thanks Joshua.

[@painteddog27]

Enjoyed Tyler's Ministry of Silly Walks on the "big steps".

[@MikeGrayFilm]

haha likewise Joel.

[@g.abiera]

Would've been cool to reveal that it was acting at the end instead! Great shots regardless, Keep it up Mike

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Good call!

[@onajepree5762]

I love the butterfly wings behind Tyler 😂😂😂😂

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Hahahaha

[@daveshannonphotography]

Found this difficult to watch. I can not imagine this happening in real life and having to deal with it. I notice in the closing sum up with the fab 4 that Tyler has Angel wings.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Yep. It wasn’t a pleasant experience lol

[@tylershieldsvideos]

It was rough for me to watch

[@MarvellousVisuals]

this was hilarious hahahaa great work! engaging content

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks a lot man.

[@JAYEND]

How’d you photoshop the black eyes you was giving out? Lol

[@MikeGrayFilm]

😂😂😂😂 bro. I’m done!

[@GraysonPratt]

Mike: "what would you call this?..." Allie: "pants and a shirt" this team is so funny I swear. thanks for the vids guys!

[@GraysonPratt]

also RIP Clarence

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks for tapping in Grayson! Haha

[@kimlovey10]

Absolutely loved the video!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks mom! Happy Mother’s Day. I love you!

[@liamaxton6611]

These challenges seem so rough. I want to try doing one of these so bad even if it makes me hate it for a little while

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Give it a go Liam!

[@Its.justChad]

Asking for the picture right away when you’re taking pictures in film made me cringe so damn hard. I give you props for keeping up with their energy. I couldn’t do it.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

It was hard hahah

[@johnhendrick_photo]

Bro, on your instagram that yellow dress on green is Fire, but in the video that B&W was so clean. So I have to go with you winning this one homie. Extra funny was Tyler telling you to “get your $!@& together” 😂.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate it John. Lol yes he was on some other shit 😂😂😂

[@nompnomp4884]

man your photo its totally sick!! how you can find perfect light and color?

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks a lot man

[@ReimannPembroke]

“Thank you so much you were fantastic!” Mike: “Thanks..” *turns away quickly* Lmaooo great video as always dude! I would have had a hard time not laughing if I was working with people like that😂

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Haha I appreciate you bro!

[@majki3144]

Bro. I am working as a production manager. You are my hero. Seriously. Respect for patience and pro.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate that man!

[@Usua]

LOVEDIT!

[@bennodusedau3008]

dont worry, sometimes I forget my catchphrase, too... it goes "great video" great Photos!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@fost5956]

Ohhh damn I was already frustrated just watching this challenge. And all the time I kept asking myself if I would be able to handle such an attitude during a shoot since I’m very critical about my work. Damn this gonna be hard on me

[@MikeGrayFilm]

You can do it David haha

[@kimlovey10]

Get job Jake and Mike!

[@MatijaMilicevic]

Great video Mike. Quick ? Was the black background in the pool chair shot done in photoshop or somehow with practical lighting effects?

[@inkaststudio]

A few things: 1. Taylor Shields has butterfly wings 2. Jake’s a billionaire And 3. Y’all both killed it! Honestly, there’s no clear winner 😑 For the first time in history, it’s a tie for me! 👍🏾👍🏾

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Haha I love it

[@hollymcaninch]

That’s a no for me. I learned a lot from this video. Great stuff! Can’t wait for the next.

[@vibe2305]

this is fucking brilliant, great work! Looking forward to the next challange!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks!

[@michialharris1850]

How is he shooting that close with the mamiya 7

[@michaelkeith8496]

My campus does the same thing as this, the lecturers can be very mean and always asking for revisions over and over until I realized that I got screwed up by them, because my limited time becomes more limited

[@alexandcoffee]

Another banger

[@MikeGrayFilm]

🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@AmbientNoir]

Bravo! That is the least talked about topic concerning photographers. There are some BAD clients. ANNNDDD good ones too.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Indeed Charles

[@TheGeniusOfJoe]

Love it 🔥

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I appreciate you for tuning in!!!

[@j.zuberi]

LMAO this is why i shoot landscape and street photography mostly. Great depiction. lol!

[@tiagorua8848]

Man I choose you always!! Jake it's an awesome photographer but you are amazing! You are brilliant!!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Wow, thank you!

[@mrturner1]

I’d love to know what your post production process is. What software you use and how much or how little you do to your photos. Also, with this challenge here, what was your approach with the light meter? Did they allow you to meter?

[@MikeGrayFilm]

I only used my internal light meter on the Pentax once I started shooting.

[@evesedenn]

Um but this is expensive art so I can’t stand on it right? Correct? Okay 😭😂 See I would’ve made a big mistake, breaking the probably $10,000 butterfly installation. learning so much. Another awesome one. Thanks.

[@MikeGrayFilm]

haha yea, I definitely had to make sure. Thank you!

[@BeeepBo0op]

Did you have the smoothest shoot between the two of you? No. Did your photos turn out better than Jake's? Absolutely, loved them all!

[@MikeGrayFilm]

Thanks a lot man!

[@32ndFoto]

Fortunately this has never happened but shooting at Toronto International Film Festival we see how bishy the PR's are by not allowing fans to interact with the talent. Thank G*d most of the actors just do what they want and come over to us. 🙏

[@chumleyk]

Jesus, this gave me flash backs.