System Bonding Jumpers for Different Types of Systems, NEC 2020 - [250.30(A)(1)], (8min:34sec)

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[@aaronwidder4458]

Mike, I actually got called to do a service call for a 500kva transformer where the "electrician" did not properly bond at the transformer and caused a whole mess of issues! So yes! you are 100% correct when you say "electricians" do not know the concept, or even forget it all together!

[@russrockino-rr0864]

I find it interesting that Electricians still have confusion about this. A seperately derived transformer system is the most straight forward system to bond and ground, in my opinion.

[@J_Trask]

That’s why you’re watching this video? 😂 You should also consider that the majority of electricians are mainly installers that just work off blueprints. It is a very small percentage of people searching out this information.

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[@2016MMXVI]

Mike, thank you for all the great information. In keeping with the objectionable neutral current line of of thinking, if the utility company providing the source bonds and grounds their transformer and then I bond the service disconnect as required, are we not creating the same neutral current problem?

[@MikeHoltNEC]

Parallel earth/neutral current is not a problem.

[@MustAfa-vp4kp]

Mike, thank you for all the great information according to what i have seen in this video when SBJ is not installed then the voltage between the line and the ground is zero volt , so if sombody touch the hot wire he will not get an electricall chocked ?. hope to answer my question thanks again.

[@MikeHoltNEC]

Correct!

[@jasonwoods7915]

First off, God bless you brother. I've seen an missing sbj. The tale tale voltage you will get on 208 panel for example is 77 volts on a to b phase and close to 277 on a to c. This has to do with the sine wave. The system tries to correct itself by a missing differential voltage. It doesn't read 208, if my memory is correct. Phantom voltages on the neutral to ground is also a tale tale sign from my troubleshooting memory.

[@tfun101]

Mike..let’s say I don’t drive a ground rod for my transformer. Everything is bonded correctly but the only thing missing is my GEC. I still clear faults and still get correct voltages correct?

[@MikeHoltNEC]

You are 100% correct, I've submitted to have the grounding to the building grounding electrode system requirement removed.

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[@jlmm3968]

Do you have to use bond bushings on flexible metal conduit on primary and secondary flex seen it done multiple ways please advise and tell me where I can find in code thanks

[@MikeHoltNEC]

Of course not unless 250.97 applies (which it doesn't). In addition, it serves no purpose to put bonding bushing and jumpers from a 'connector' that is connected to a raceway that does not qualify as an EGC. Why do people put them on? Who knows, probably it just makes them feel better.

[@betta3301]

love these videos. question regarding system bonding jumpers. in a corner grounded delta would it be a good idea to ground a phase at the meter socket enclosure? what if it was originally a 3 phase 3 wire delta with no neutral and you wanted to ground a phase, where should the main bonding jumper be at?

[@MikeHoltNEC]

The NEC requires service grounding at the service equipment (service main), see 250.24(C). Excellent point.

[@gcg9056]

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[@salcalamita3999]

Thank you for clearing this up Mike.

[@MikeHoltNEC]

Any time

[@kefrenferrer6777]

One question , what about a residencial conection where the transformer ( with sbj installed) is not part of it, and the suply wires are only line and neutral?, must be installed the sbj?, if not, what is the path clearing a fault?

[@MikeHoltNEC]

Grounding of service equipment must be in accordance with 250.24.

[@ociebenterprises]

Can a weak neutral coming from the power companies service line cause an electrical fire? It is being held on by only 2 of its strands going to the weather head of a 100 amp service.

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[@polemicvs]

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[@MikeHoltNEC]

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[@iancrom3320]

Thanks Mike!

[@MikeHoltNEC]

No worries!

[@jak50cent]

Thanks as always

[@MikeHoltNEC]

You are welcome.

[@elc2k385]

Thank you, sir

[@MikeHoltNEC]

You are most welcome.

[@dwaynes965]

No/bad ground you will get different voltage readings.

[@MikeHoltNEC]

The ground (earth connection) has nothing to do with the voltage of the phase conductor and the metal enclosures of the system (because of the system bonding jumper).

[@Electrician4Life]

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[@johnnymalicoat754]

If there is a difference in potential between ground and line why don't you read it on an ungrounded system?

[@carultch]

A ideal voltmeter (ideal as in perfect, not the brand name) would have infinite ohms of input impedance, and would read a difference in potential between line and ground on an ungrounded system. However, a realistic voltmeter will have a finite number of ohms as the effective impedance of the input, typically on the order of magnitude of Megaohms. You can demonstrate this by constructing a voltage divider with two 1kOhm resistors, and measuring across one of the two resistors. As expected, with 1 kOhm resistors, you'll likely get half the supply voltage as your read-out. Now try it with 10 Megaohm resistors, and it likely will not measure exactly half the supply voltage. You will see the voltmeter becomes a resistance in parallel with the resistor you are measuring, which reduces the equivalent resistance of that section of the circuit. An ideal voltmeter would not do this, but a realistic voltmeter will. An experiment such as this, can allow you to infer the input impedance of your voltmeter. If the effective impedance of the voltmeter is low enough that it has less impedance than the air/insulators between the other two phases and ground, then it will become a preferred path for current to flow, that will temporarily ground the system. It will settle on an equilibrium, where there is zero voltage difference between the phase under test and ground, and therefore draw no milliamps of current to register a voltage read-out on the voltmeter.

[@MikeHoltNEC]

Thank you for answering the question!

[@elc2k385]

@@carultch im going to re-read and chew on this reply. I am in electrician school and find new training info like this very interesting. Thank you.

[@carultch]

@@elc2k385 I was surprised when I first did this experiment. With our equipment they had us measure the voltage divider with 1 kOhm resistors, and then with 1 Megaohm resistors. I thought for sure it would measure half the supply voltage, and didn't expect anything else. But sure enough, it measured significantly less than half the supply voltage.

[@GooogleGoglee]

@@carultch thank you for the detailed answer. It is not clear at all at first, you need to apply the right reasoning. Would be very nice if @Mike can make a short video explaining this mathematically 👍🏻

[@lognum4155]

If you have no system bonding jumper this would make voltage to ground 0, wouldn't this be a lot safer? If someone is to touch a live wire in a system with no system bonding jumper, there is nowhere for the current to go to. Now I know there are benefits to having a system bonding jumper to clear faults and surges but still... why does this take priority over someone's life if someone was to touch a live wire?

[@MikeHoltNEC]

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[@cocotug0]

quick question... if the transformer is wye bonded but there is no GEC(nor metal conduit) to the next disconnect, the neutral and a new grounding rod must be bonded at said disconnect?

[@MikeHoltNEC]

See NEC 250.30 on SBJ, SSBJ, and GEC.

[@cocotug0]

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[@WDIO-RADIO]

Thank you Mike.

[@MikeHoltNEC]

You are welcome, have a great day.