Michael Jordan vs. Kobe Bryant - Who's More Clutch?

[@larpensil]

kobe unpredictable, jordan just unstopable

[@UR2H]

@markyblaze The addition of the defensive 3 in the key rule and re-interpretation of hand-checking made it easier for perimeter players to score and succeed. Not to make it harder. Hand-checking re-interpretation started in the 99-00 season and full re-interpretation during the 04-05 season. Defensive 3 in the key introduced during 01-02 season. Jordan's 2nd retirement after 97-98 season. Jordan 2nd comeback 01-03 seasons still managed over 20ppg while dropping multiple 40 point games.

[@Donpaeng]

if youve seen his moves recently, like the 2 step, dribble, spin, fake, fade away jumper. (well again something like that) that's when i realized that this dude is different. everything jordan did he tried to step it up. especially the fade away and his 3 point shooting is also amazing right now. and recently he admitted in taking moves from d-wade and CP3. that's exactly what i respect about kobe, the open mindedness drive to make his game better and better.

[@JoeBChill]

That whole game against Phoenix in the '06 playoffs was beautiful. Especially the game-winner

[@TubeGhost]

Thing is, clutch isn't just what you do with that last shot but the impact you had when your team was trailing or in desperate need of your leadership. That Utah 98 final game was instructive because Jordan took it to the hole, then got the ball back (which was absolutely necessary) so he could hit that GW shot. Don't forget the Flu Game which is basically one long clutch performance, let alone his 55(right?) against Phoenix. Jordan was clutch throughout a game or quarter not just in a moment

[@Donpaeng]

there was a suns lakers players playoff game were kobe would shoot impossible 3's in the fourth quarter to catch up. that was really sick even though they lost. i was really impressed with his will that time. i think it was the time when the suns knocked them off the finals and the spurs ended up champs.

[@VinmanMJ23]

Just a couple of thoughts. In the playoff game against the Celtics that MJ Scored 63 points, he had to go to the free throw line in Boston and make two free throws with no time on the clock to send the game into overtime. THAT is clutch. Also, I remember a game against the Knicks where he scored something like 18 straight points and the game-winner at the buzzer.

[@mikester8821]

Thanks for watching Bruce. Pah said Jordan faced iso and shorter defenders in the clutch so i had to make this video. He also said that Jordan was never doubled without the ball when inbounding for a game winner. So I showed it happened.

[@harlequin115]

Just wanted to say I think the editing of this video at 09:37 is hilarious...good job!

[@calabis]

@calabis Stu Jackson: Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter

[@det916]

A lot of those Jordan plays have lead-up clutch shots. Nice video.

[@GraveVibrations]

lol at the last clutch clip! Good vid!

[@heyitsjv]

lol the last part's hilarious space jam ftw great vid

[@thereach2008]

good video.. wish you could include the footage from this previous year from kobes game winners but i understand what your saying. as a fan im gladm that kobes in the discussion of even being compared to jordan. its like what kobe said "90% of what i learned is from mj". all great players learn something from an existing great player as michael jordan learned from his great player Dr.J. So its kind of a disservice to even argue whose better or more clutch. but good video, phil jackson said

[@lawtzelap]

yeah thats a good point i hate how everyone keeps on comparing...when it really doesn't matter

[@calabis]

Stu Jackson: With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim.

[@M0t0rBreath89]

This video showed me how much similar both players are to each other.

[@TheChippyRick]

@mikester8821 I believe the clutch factor has to do more with the number of buzzer beaters/game winners. You really can argue either way, it's just my opinion.

[@chongb]

very good point, now with the defensive 3 sec rule, big guy can not just wait in the paint. back in the days, those big guys were all waiting jordan to come. and don't forget some other rules like the restricted area under the basket. hand checks or wtever. It is so easy to go to line now

[@billny33]

I loved that 'foul?' note in the space jam video. Also everyone forgets that because MJ took off at midcourt and didn't touch the rim, that has to be a 3. In the movie they only count it for 2 points though. Always bugged me.

[@Pewpshmear]

@THETOYOTAable where did you get the 80% and the 30%? i've never seen that anywhere.

[@mikester8821]

Ok. I thought u meant on each arrow. I didn't want to focus on the arrows too much so that I could get more clips in. I want to do a Jordan vs pistons video. Or a video highlighting the similarities between the knicks/pistons and celtics defense. I will do more arrows and add in voicenwork for that.

[@mikester8821]

I love the fact that it looked like it was impossible for him to not make those shots. He just stole the ball, did not pass, and took the shot. I cant explain it.

[@IcedAjack]

That was one of my favorite movies! You'll never see Kobe do something like that. Ever.

[@mikester8821]

LOL you watched. Were you always going to make a clutch series, or do you know want to make one?

[@BBALLADDICT94]

Nice work and a great ending. lol

[@supergio]

Very nice video. Thanks

[@mikester8821]

@KiidMamba24 How do you figure? Obviously other things need to be considered, but they all compliment each other when considering what clutch is... so please explain how fg% has "nothing" to do with clutch.

[@YoungTon22]

Allan Houston, allen Iverson, dikembe mutumbo, Domonique wilkins, hersey hawkins, ron harper, john starks, derrick harper, mark jackson, derrek anderson, dennis scott, rick smits, eddie jones, vlade divac, chris webber, dennis rodman, juwan howard, sean elliot, byron scott, jason kidd, robert horry, sam cassel, chris mullin, dan majerle, charles smith are some of the 2nd team people

[@fau2an100]

jordans clutch artistry will never be challenged. the last play cemented his status and i rest my case. :D

[@TwoThreeForever]

you're missing one VERY GOOD one from Jordan. ''The Shot III (3)'' against Cleveland as a Wizard (at age 40)

[@TheJesseGladSaget]

Great video. To me, the thing that separates Jordan from Kobe as the far superior player, and clutch player, is that final minute against Utah - Jordan goes to the hole for the easy layup, then makes a play on Malone on the defensive end, then sets up the GW shot, whereas Kobe would have undoubtedly tried to tie the game up with a 3 as soon as he got the chance.

[@2IAN4]

It's not about Celtics being the Pistons, LA lost Bynum and Ariza in that playoffs, not to mention Gasol had just been traded and hasn't have the the full season. The next year they got everybody back and Gasol was able to enter Training camp.

[@coochiemonsta504]

i love how theres plays where kobe was gaurded by players that didnt get an arrow but jordan got anybody that looked at him, its easy to tell the vid was bias but still an overall good vid

[@cdbleb3]

Almost forgot to mention...Both of those are totals from 4 games during the regular season.

[@TwoThreeForever]

2:11 the sound of ''ahh!!!'' from the crowd at madison square garden after Jordan ties the game with that OFF balance 3 in the 1996 ECSF game 3. not to mention on one of my top 10 favorite lines' from Marv Albert (the voice of basketball) commentary: ''Jordan, for 3 to tie it...HE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!''

[@TwoThreeForever]

2:13 my FAVORITE 3-point shot from Michael Jordan ''for 3 to tie it...HE DOES!!!!!!!!!'' ^ 1996 ECSF game 3 (Bulls lost in overtime despite 46 points from Michael Jordan)

[@heyitsjv]

is that hubie brown commentating the bulls pistons game? freakin old

[@jiangteng]

in Jordans Time, people talk about who gone be next Jordan, in Kobes Time, people talk about which player is better, James or Kobe

[@mikester8821]

And im gona go ahead and assume you are being sarcastic about the arrows, because I thought I paused to often. Just wanted to make sure everybody got a very basic understanding of the defensive pressure both guys faced.

[@blackadam06]

"Zone defenses are [rarely used] in the NBA for a [number] of reasons. [Because] of the [defensive 3-sec rule], the NBA [does not allow] a [true] zone as post defenders are [not allowed] to just [park themselves in the paint]. Beyond that, it is [viewed] as a [gimmick] among players & coaching personnel." -- Jonathan Abrams, NBA Reporter for NY Times; "Talk to the Newsroom: NBA Reporter"; May 10, 2009

[@twin0430274]

Mj and kobe the two best ever when its all said and done. I remember that Lakers @ Blazers game... One of the best performances of all-time...

[@pitongus]

@atm23cp so you think that becasue maybe kobe will pass him on quantity of clutch shots it makes him more clutch? as a matter of fact, clutch ain't just the winning shot, they are the important shots at the end of the game, and everyone knows who;s the king at that. Another thing to mention is teh degree of dificulty in jordan's shots vs kobe's.

[@calabis]

@wawiebeastman exactly here is what kobe goes against. NBA rules expert Rod Thorn said this after the handchecking rule was changed and the defensive 3 second rule:"It's more difficult now to guard the quick wing player who can handle the ball," Thorn said of the change. "I think it helps skilled players over someone who just has strength or toughness. What the NBA is trying to do is promote unimpeded movement for dribblers or cutters."

[@ClipCoug]

MJ at 19 was hitting championship-clinching shots at a prestigious basketball college powerhouse.

[@coldkid6]

nice video thanks for the post

[@youngstevo88]

Whoever created this vdeo is a genius...but i feel like the overall defense is better in kobe's era, which makes the tougher shots that he make all the more clutch...cuz they're more difficult

[@mikester8821]

@KiidMamba24 So you cant say fg% has nothing to do with clutch shooting. What IF Jordan made all his game winners while they were contested, while Kobe only made half of his when he was wide open. That right there proves fg% doesnt mean nothing. It just has to be put in context.

[@2IAN4]

I'll get a look," he said. "If I miss it, I miss it, but one guy's not going to matter, not in that situation. I've developed my skills to the point where I can go left, I can go right. I can pull up and shoot, I can fade and shoot. I feel confident in my abilities . . . because I've worked at those things." KB24

[@mikester8821]

I know. I uploaded this and of course a week later 82games adds those stats. No big deal.

[@Getouttatownn]

4:46 - 5:04 The two SICKEST shots i have EVER seen

[@mikester8821]

I know what you mean. There is way too much footage. That is why I just wanted to make a video on the differences in the way they approach the clutch.

[@Jumpman1989]

@aaaahhhdamn22 Sorry but you're totally wrong. Late 80s and early 90s are believed to be the toughest era in the NBA history. Lack of the zone defense doesnt mean anything when you look at handchecking and 3 second rule. Today rules create more opportunities for players like Kobe or Dwayne. It is so easy nowadays to penetrate to the basket or draw the faul because of the rules. Do you think it was easy for MJ to drive to the basket when he had Mark Eaton on his way without 3 sec?

[@2IAN4]

Nice point. I sincerely think that in Jordan's era athletes doesn't workout like today..

[@JeepLove]

its scary how alike kobe and MJ are........even the face they make when they get hurt

[@Amir883]

There are quite a few plays that you could have added for Jordan. In the 1st game 98 1st rd series vs the nets in OT. Jordan steals the ball and goes full court for a dunk and foul on Kendil Gill. Also there is a game vs the Sonics I believe in 87 or 88 that also went into OT where Jordan stole the ball at the end from Xavier McDaniel and did a 12 foot leaner windmill jam to seal the game.

[@gmn545]

@EliasJordan3 What? It's not like Jordan played in the 60's. All the stat-categories (including the advanced ones, pace (per possession), etc.) are accounted for, when it comes to both Kobe and Jordan's career.

[@AJVersatility19]

Why is the video paused everytime you show that arrow? It got a little annoying since it's only paused for less than a second. Might as well not pause at all.

[@ClipCoug]

@izzy2frezh.....Kobe is more clutch than Jordan in the regular season, Jordan is more clutch than Kobe in the post-season.....does that answer your question?

[@uch00b1inabox]

The amount of assists isn't the only way to measure if a person is a ballhog. If you remember, Kobe came into the league out of highschool, and was limited to under 10 minutes for many games during his rookie season. It is hard for rookies who just came out of high school to automatically start making plays for others in the NBA. Assists is not a way to measure if a person is a ballhog. You have watch and study the game and not get caught up in the boxscore.

[@mikester8821]

When did phil say that?

[@mikester8821]

I have no idea what you are trying to say. And an alvusion fracture is not a big deal. It is just a jammed finger. Minor discomfort.

[@mmucc073]

the only reason Phil said that is cause hes coaching Kobe now and has no choice to back him up to the fullest and not make him look bad like that

[@hurstparis]

@jp3813 i mean when u think about it, kobe has already played longer than jordan has and so based on the long year he has played he's more tired then when jordan came back in his 30's,. but the fact still remains that although he might have missed the last 5clutch shots, not forget jordan has missed several gamewinners also,. so it still becomes a debatable discussion due to both of them bein great players in general, and they always been the person to take the shots for the team their own,,..

[@07Redstang]

Kobe is my favorite player by far. but i think Kobe, Lebron and whoever else whether they passed him in scoring or not will always be just following in Jordans path. Jordan is a legend.

[@Amir883]

First of all Ervin Magic Johnson was pretty established during the 80s and when Jordan faced him in the finals And he and Scottie did both guard him. Jordan guarded drexler in the 92 finals who was also established. Magic was drafted in 1979-80 and Drexler was in 1983-84. I also remember the Lakers choking in the playoffs until Phil coached them. I remember the lakers not making the playoffs in 2005 when Phil wasn't there. Whereas Jordan made it with 3 different coaches before Phil.

[@mikester8821]

@OfficialEXENESTV My name is mike so my username is not part of any bias. I mainly used footage of when Kobe was younger because it is hard to find him hitting any game winners before this video was made. All the winners he made this season could not have been put in the video. Find some more clutch shots and make your own video how about?

[@blackadam06]

"If he would have went to a horrible team. He would have had a higher scoring avg" He had that from '05 to mid '08, and STILL didn't consistently put up better # 's than MJ, even with the ADVANTAGE of new defensive rules that FAVORS guys like him!

[@kOrOne79]

Of course you can compare them. Kobe started playing in the NBA when Jordan still dominated the league. He wasn't in his prime anymore, but still. Their style is often very similar due to the fact that Kobe molded his game after Jordan's. He copied not only his moves, but his mimics and gestures as well and even asked Jordan about the correct stance for his fadeaway.

[@YoungTon22]

Joe Dumars, Reggie Miller, Tim Hardaway, penny hardaway, shaquille o'neil, david robinson, hakeem olajuwon, gary payton, shawn kemp, karl malone, john stockton,kevin garnett, ray allen, alonzo mourning, latrell sprewell, steve smith, scottie pippen, magic johnson, larry bird, reggie lewis, grant hill, charles barkley, chris mullin, patrick ewing, larry johnson, clyde drexler, kevin johnson and on and on and on

[@DotEqualP]

@mrdogyman123 u might want to take note of why kobe has more defence in the clutch. Simple, because he doesnt pass the ball in the clutch. the reason why jordan faces less, is because every team knew that if they tried to overcommit on jordan he is going pass it to someone to make the shot.

[@pandemoniumt]

@utfanatic2000 u dont need to hit a finals game winner if ur team is already up...

[@hiphopbwwsoccer]

Kenny, do you remember basketball before '98? There were a shit load of players Jordan had to compete with. David Robinson, Ewing, Olajuwan, Gary Payton, Grant Hill, Shaq, Charles Barkley, Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning, Stockton who is one of the best defensive players ever, Malone, Shawn Kemp, the list goes on and on. I would wager that most if not all of these players are better than most, if not all players now. This was back in the hey day of basketball. Defenses are weaker, less stars.

[@SethMunoz8]

@polvergara so kobe doesnt bring intensity? if u say that u might as well say nothing

[@DeltronsBET]

When a Legend meets The Best!

[@mikester8821]

Thanks for watching man. I am not really sure what you mean about the fast break thing but its alright.

[@andgar923]

Which one's are in the playoffs tho?

[@TheGodOfBasketball1]

@mbeuthe1 Yes....he "Wilted" during the playoffs. His stats take a huge drop and what has kept him from being an overwhelming GOAT was his lack of rings and that his stats were a big reason for that.

[@R34ISdabest]

phil was more afraid of mj then mj was of him but at the same time jordan still knew how to pass when a double came at him. jordan knew how to move without the ball and find clean shot.

[@Tmac10t]

yeah I know that what I think is one the main reasons shaq slowed on his workouts in la there was really no competition by that time not like when first came in the leage

[@Epickorea]

Wow, from 4:45-5:04 is amazing.

[@JBin614]

Agree! The game was much more physical back then. You also had to be mentally strong to handle getting beat up.

[@KobeMJ1000]

@doosiolek thats not fair , remember kobe was never put in these situations like MJ when he played in the playoffs, because if he had he would have been able to do the same. Also remember that when kobe was put in a game winning situation in the post season he delivered, and those were when he lead the rally against portland in the western confrence finals(proly the greatest comeback ever), his game winner against Detroit in the finals, and the ones against phoenix in game 5.

[@DotEqualP]

@lkc69 U might want to see how come he was unmarked or how his shot was uncontested. He made himself open with his high Basktball IQ AND this abt clutch not the difficulty.

[@tkcwu]

@Rustaveli2k7 Kobe Bryant's CLUTCHNESS 26-for-89 clip (29.2 percent) for game winners or ties.??? is that clutch??

[@travis101101]

not to mentions that what u said at the end only promotes kobe to be better because he has smaller hands he has to resort to a tougher shot? and he hits it consistantly? lol no hate though

[@mjordanisnumber1]

@DoctorEvilxX really? I've never seen KB avg 30.1 pts for his career, or over 37 pts in a season. Has he ever scored 50 pts in a finals? How many scoring titles does he have? You're talking about one game, I'm talking about a whole seasons, and career. Thats the difference.

[@dragonnmann2003]

Yeah. Disney Magic. But Spike Lee or Mars Blackman in the Jordan commercials never did a documentary on Jordan, he did do one on Kobe.

[@mikester8821]

Wrong, Phil never said Kobe is more clutch. Watch the video again, I uploaded that video.

[@celticgreen5]

what people forget about the LA vs Phoenix game is even though LA went up 3-1, I believe they still lost that series...

[@cdbleb3]

Thats a reply to secondllcdbleb3 (Just in case it doesnt post as a reply).

[@willsmackyoudown]

I got an idea lets show all the failed clutch shots of kobe and put them on a video...im pretty sure its longer than his made clutch shots.

[@mikester8821]

I agree. I didnt make this video to diminish kobes accomplishments, because he is clutch. I just wanted to show some kobe fans that their arguments are a little over the top.

[@blackadam06]

"The mark of a [truly] great offensive player is to [maintain] a high level of [efficiency] while taking on a large share of the team's offensive responsibility & even though Kobe's numbers are impressive, MJ's is [consistently more efficient] than Bryant no matter if he's using more possessions [or not]." -- Neil Paine, Basketball-reference . com Dec 9, 2008

[@mikester8821]

@punichr For the same reason there is no arrow for Jordan at the 2:00 mark. You see what you want to see but I put a similar jordan play with no arrow and u put no mention of it. That is not bias? lol if i showed 2008 to now it would be the same story. Think back to all the game winners kobe hit this season. He was doubled in them?I put it comments for certain kobe fans who said that jordan faced smaller defenders and stuff like that. Lets see you make a better video.

[@polvergara]

I think both players are great. But I enjoy watching MJ play vs Kobe. No stat can explain what intensity MJ brought to the game.

[@blackadam06]

"players these days are bigger, stronger, faster" Year-----Avg hgt----Avg wgt 1986-90--6-9.72-----223.46 1992-00--6-7.20-----215.67 2003-09--6-5.48-----210.00 This is currently the SMALLEST & LIGHTEST era on file since the 70's, due to teams drafting MORE wing players to capitalize on the new rules that FAVORS them. And in terms of speed & athleticism, there's NOT ONE elite/athletic player of today, that I can't name AT LEAST 2 from MJ's era that could EASILY match or BEST them. Pick one!!

[@rompetexos]

you forgot some pressure arrows for kobe. but still a nice video.

[@shazam131]

@mbeuthe1 good point i never thought about it that way. and they might be stupid shots but Kobe's good enough to make them.

[@kOrOne79]

From the same site: Kobe fans don't like to hear it, but while their man is #4 in the league in total game winners hit, he holds the top spot in a less glamorous category: most game winning opportunity missed shots! 42 - Kobe 35 - Vince Carter 33 - Joe Johnson, LeBron 32 - Crawford 31 - Billups