MikroTik hAP ax³ - WiFi6 wireless AP

I'm in love with this new presence of MikroTik in KZbin. These overview of products and configuration are real excelent!

[@MrLupoNino]

they have changed something from top management, because now they are presenting lots lots of awesome videos

[@palwindersingh9678]

Now, that's what I call a great product. Literally checks all the boxes from what I expect from a proper home router. Best of luck to Mikrotik. Now all that remains for them is to figure out the supply chain issues. Because literally, at the moment, everything is out of stock. I hope they have solid plan in place to figure out the issue.

[@mikegleasonjr]

Before the supply chain issue is the software issue.. Mikrotik always had good hardware, but poor software around wifi. All my Mikrotik wifi dumb access points are running OpenWRT because they have better chipset support than Mikrotik themselves. Fast roaming and better performance.

[@fnorro]

Right, apart from one important checkbox... where is the SFP port?! We used this all the time on the original hAP ac, now it seems to be missing in all recent models, which makes them far less attractive than they could be!

[@palwindersingh9678]

@@mikegleasonjr Perhaps on the older devices. I tried OpenWRT on HAP ac2 and the WiFi performance was marginally slower than what MikroTik offers natively.

[@palwindersingh9678]

@@fnorro I believe, SFP port is used by tiny niche among the home users, so MikroTik has decided to axe the port from the future releases as a cost saving measures. Who knows the exact reason besides MikroTik.

[@danfisher9065]

I wish you would support up to 56 volts on these hAP models. So when will we see cAP AX? That would be very sixy.

[@user-ze7tl2dw4i]

she is so fucking good at her job. the delivery, everything

[@lukasbruderlin2723]

Indeed, she's entertaining ;)

[@mosiqari3073]

We just bought it for our small office with almost 10 employees. It's excellent in speed, consistency, and beauty :) Thank you, MikroTik!

[@dylanswart1800]

Cant wait to receive stock. When will we get a AX ceiling mount AP?

[@WagTsX]

I am also just waiting for the cAP ax series, that's gonna be huge. I really prefer them over Unifi stuff.

[@MyrddinDundragon]

I'll be holding out for the ceiling mount units as well. My customers don't want a bunch of wires and antennas showing.

[@andljoy]

Will we ever get an upgraded celling AP ?

[@tranvietcuong4168]

Hi, why you don't make hap ax3 version 2 with slot SFP+, 1 2.5Gb LAN port and Wifi 6E? It's time to update.

[@torinstorkey]

I would love to see a hap ax3e with 6 GHz wifi.

[@donaldhiles_k9sgz428]

Love the new router. Like the presenter also. I could understand her.

[@AViStudioMoldova]

I still don't understand, why you don't put an SFP port on this device????

[@HiltonT69]

Oooohhhhhh, I'm excited (but why not all 2.5 GbE?

[@manny_f]

Cost?

[@jaysonyu1547]

I got hold of an ax3 from getic a few days ago.. as my first Mikrotik it took a day to figure out load balancing and bonding but once I got that going, DL and UL throughput at least doubled.. this thing rocks! Pros: works as advertised and affordable. Cons: You need to have some technical background to make this thing work. May I suggest to Mikrotik to include a 'Quick Setup' for dual WAN (default is only 1) as many people now have 2 links due to WFH.

[@DenisBelozorov]

Dual Wan in Quick Setup - really good idea)

[@lukasbruderlin2723]

I'm wondering why most praise this router, when it doesn't even offer one SFP(+) ... I though thats kinda standard these days

[@SaifBinAdhed]

@@lukasbruderlin2723 standard on TpLink and Linksys? I think you dont need SFP+ on the ax3, the only use I see for SFP(+) is if you really need fiber, which in 90% of the cases in home use is not useful, but then again, home users who are going to use SFP, will not use this ax3 for routing & switching at the same time. I use rb5009 for SFP+ and then connect anything else I need behind it, to have 10gbps from my server to my living room, 10gbps sfp didn't work for me and I wasn't comforatble with a module running at 80c in my rack. I don't know, this is my take on it, I rather pay less for the ax3 without sfp which I might never use, than pay more for it.

[@MrAlexDavid]

Nice. But where’s the SFP cage… No real replacement for the hap ac 😢

[@xtornado123]

Cool, but when will be capsman supported for wifiwave2 or mesh? One router in my case is not enough...

[@HiltonT69]

Aahhh, after having investigated the Qualcomm IPQ-6010 SOC, I can see that this SOC provides 4xA53cores, USB 3.0, and only support for 1x2.5GbE + 4x1GbE. So Qualcomm is the cause of this limit. I'd still love to see a CRS3XX with 4x SFP+ and 24x2.5GbE (or at least 8x2.5GbE + 16x1GbE).

[@evlo8059]

you tease

[@ramonlimadesouza229]

Great, I miss the sfp cage for use with Fiber To The Home.

[@dondragoncy]

dumb question.....:) does it support MU-MIMO and OFDMA? i know WiFi6 AX does support it, but i haven't seen it stated anywhere on the routers product page

[@JediaelOliveira]

Awesome! Now we just have to wait for 6 months until our distributor gets any equipment

[@Ostrymiecz]

Hey MT - where is the SFP cage? 😢

[@1retrothomas437]

Real

[@bucharestcartraffic]

we like the new products a lot. The problem hardware producers seem not to understand these days, is that worst than not having a product with the latest features in the offer is to paper lunch a product that you cant buy on the market.

[@mikrotik]

You can order it now. Don’t thing too long though, many people want it and preorders could not be open long

[@jorgebritoabad6754]

@@mikrotik How I can order??

[@bucharestcartraffic]

@@jorgebritoabad6754 ... in your dreams. They don't even have the device up on their own website. The ax2 version is only available in one store in Germany. AX3 version doesn't exist .

[@anykey24]

Would be great to add SFP port

[@cmanuelsantos]

Mikrotik is getting serious about wifi 6. Please provide outdoor devices for the wisp market. We having been waiting for and long time and it seems it will finally payoff. Thanks Mikrotik for powering our network and wisp business.

[@MatiNiewczas]

Still waiting for cap ax... 🤞

[@sagetechnology4913]

I just saw it on the products page, it's pretty good, and I might pick up one. With that being said I would be willing to pay a little more for a model with 160MHz channel support, and potentially a second 2.5Gbe port (though one is already pretty good). But I do have a few questions. (Extra Background info): I deploy equipment in other people's homes as a side job, mainly SOHO clients. Most of the networks I work on have mainly gigabit (usually managed) switches/infrastructure. 1. Is there a designated WAN port like most commodity home routers? or can it be set to any one of the available ethernet ports in routerOS? I would hate to be required to use the 2.5Gb port for internet (especially when all of my clients have gigabit or slower internet) instead of a 2.5Gb capable NAS/PC/Switch. 2. Does it support LACP or Static LAG? (a must for many clients) 3. How can I obtain extra antennas? I've run into a few pet-related incidents where the adorable creature has damaged vital networking equipment?

[@Seph313]

RouterOS can do basically everything you have ever seen on any router/switch, there is no requirement to use specific port, unless you need POE for example. But keep in mind RouterOS v7 is still basically a beta, some things might not work as intended.

[@Goldman5800]

@@Seph313 its not beta

[@Seph313]

@@Goldman5800 technically not a beta, just not stable for production in my case, but it is totally fine for home/office use.

[@agocsdanca]

Do you plan to make swiches with many 2.5G ports and probably 10G uplink in the near future?

[@kirikset]

Why are there only 2 antennas?

[@perdido_gato]

Can't find where to buy it

[@nativeme2143]

I was always dreaming about BGP capability in my home router. XD Nice device! Keep it up. :)

[@RavingMad]

What is the BGP use case for home? I know you're kidding, but I'm actually wondering as I'm learning about all the mikrotricks, if I can take advantage of some enterprise features at home. Thanks.

[@gergelygombai4530]

@@RavingMadhomelab

[@capitoneo]

Hey, this looking good. Is it possible to configure this model to work with two ISPs trough 2xWAN Ethernet port connections with load balancing?

[@uba1095]

What is the difference between hap ac3 and hap ax3 if we consider the wifi speed (wifi wave2)?

[@mikrotik]

Wi-Fi on Ax3 is around 40% faster than on Ac3

[@eW0LF]

Can't wait for LTE version :)

[@roze7127]

Do this device have VLAN HW Switching?

[@SiBex_ovh]

So good video, and you not read a script ... flow in package and in speak ! Please continue that video series !

[@Ostrymiecz]

Of course she reads from prompter. Are You blind?

[@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh]

Can I use a 2.5 or 5gb usb ethernet adapter?

[@LukaszF]

@MikrotikLatvia Are you planning a version with an LTE modem?

[@mji71]

This video sold me on the product. Talk about a 🔥 hot 🔥 marketing campaign. Proud new owner of a hap ax3!

[@DickyChengHK]

Great product. But as new routeros support container, I just want one more thing -the micro sd card slot so I could use pi-hole while using my mobile phone tethering in usb port. Could we have both?

[@MrKamikadzer]

You could use USB hub, all works fine together

[@saintpatrickmaloney7176]

Why did they skip out on the chains. This is a top of the line product. but with dual chain it brings it down. The RB4011 is still kicking ass in 20/40/80/160MHZ range and the AX a merly 20/40/80MHZ i was expecting alot more.

[@NateWheeler1]

Will Wifi6 ax features work with Capsman?

[@atilka88]

Will :D

[@lukasbruderlin2723]

Is there a similar model, which includes a SFP(+) ?

[@danman132x]

This is awesome. This announcement came after I ordered my hAP AX2, but I just received it and I'm happy with it so far! Would've got this model if I knew before though!

[@sagetechnology4913]

Not to be a downer, but how is this different from the hAP AX2 other than the 2.5gb port? (granted it's still a welcome addition). Does the hAP AX3 support 2T2R and/or 160MHz Channels in the 5GHz Band? Also the product page isn't currently available at the time of writing this comment, (September 22nd 2022, 10:48PM UTC).

[@mikrotik]

USB 3.0, 2.5G port, also much faster CPU clock, external antennas. Of course product is not available, this is announcement - preorders are available in your local distributor office, if you rush quickly to their webpage.

[@sagetechnology4913]

@@mikrotik It's more that I want to see the product page on the mikrotik website, and all of the resources it provides.

Also this is License Level 6 and AX² is level 4

[@shaunclarke94]

wAP ax coming next?

[@manny_f]

I wish this router was less curvy. What's the point of making the underside curved if you then have to add a plastic base? Also, I think the PoE-Out port should have been Eth5, basically any port other than the 2.5 gigabit port. Normally the 2.5 gigabit port is used as the WAN port.

[@sharkzor]

So its faster than rb5009?

[@0bit]

Wi-Fi 6E ?

[@ChrisNicholson]

Not a chance.

[@Alex-un5tl]

any news on the hAP ax³ 5g kit ??

[@PH_Deeps]

It was missing to have an sfp port on this model 😢

[@slammerreal]

Considering buying this device. Please provide wireguard client max throughput benchmark results before SoC bottleneck

[@od4566]

Where is Wi-Fi 6e? :D

[@isuprun]

Retailers don't have any info on ax2 arrival. No one knows if even ax2 will be available in November. So I've changed my order to a 5009UG to have at least something after October. I guess that "ax3 are going your way" will be somewhere in 2023

[@mikrotik]

Ask them to check email :) All information was sent to all distributors before the video was published. Or try another retailer.

[@ormandj]

@@mikrotik have you sent out updated information lately, that you can share? Distributors seem to be in the dark - I’ve spoken with all of the major ones.

[@fnorro]

Oh no!! This is so cool, but oh wait... you must be kidding us Mikrotik, another fantastic device... but WITHOUT SFP!!!! Why oh why? We really really really need the SFP! (really)

[@iglotov]

You should warn your users with CAPS when you break compatibility with existing solutions like CAPsMAN. Got this piece of hardware today to realize I can't just extend my existing setup.

[@123XAH]

What about 4011 replacement with WiFi6? I use 10 Ethernet ports at home.

[@mroccella]

I agree. I love the RB4011. If only it could use the WiFiWave2 drivers with the 2.4GHz band and CAPsMAN. A lot of devices have 3 or 4 wifi chains, now. The RB4011 has 4 chains on the 5GHz band.

[@gosich]

Great product! But what about USB-enabled hap ax2? Any hope?

[@mikrotik]

This is the USB enabled hAP AX2

[@gosich]

@@mikrotik this is a significantly bigger router with external antennas etc, which is not acceptable for some scenarios, such as travelling or working from different places. IMHO hAP ac2 has ideal balance of features/size. ax2 is great, but the lack of ability to connect an LTE modem will force many buyers to stick with ac2 and only dream about wifi6 in such form-factor.

[@mikrotik]

Such powerful chips can't be made into such a compact case, with all the ports. Cooling is needed once you have 2.5G and USB and other stuff.

[@gosich]

@@mikrotik Well, that wasn't a problem with ac2. LTE dongle, I believe, doesn't require that much power and speed. No need for super-pooper USB3.0 for low-profile device. You could also cut fully or partially PoE. You have routers which have multiple versions with different options, ax2 could have another version as well.

[@SY1337]

can you please get rid of passive poe and move to af/at on such devices?

[@iamyulianto2]

yeah, that is the one thing really annoying with mikrotik product. Overall they have great product, but sucks in the PoE because the dont follow industry standard in af/at.

[@ВиталийБойко-з5й]

Looking forward to upgrade my ac3, good job

[@hendrysetiadi]

hello.. this products will be coming to citraweb mikrotik indonesia too? because for now i still didn't find it on the online shop in indonesia..

[@holojda]

when will it be available on the market?

[@mediasemua]

When will the external accesspoints of ldf ax be produced?

[@machozs]

I already have a RB5009UG and I would like a ceiling cAP XL ax for it. WHEN?

[@Mitarique]

Are you planning to release cAP AX and cAP AX XL?

[@mikrotik]

of course

[@realproletentoaster]

Nice to see my own comment in that video, that are big news! Can't wait to get it, when available!

[@ReallifeBambiDeerattheFarm1]

And I found one new in box for $40.00 at the Midwest Superfest™ in Chillicothe Illinois! I love it! I would pay full price for another.

[@bratsinot4694]

Why no new hAP with SFP =(

[@MustaMT]

AC^2 was beautiful. Now this? I love it but please get the capsman package to work with all these new features. I already have 3 AC^2 at home and can barely benefit from the features because of this..! Capsman in ros7 barely operates properly it is causing us headaches

[@kchiem]

Having all 2.5 gbe ports would be nice. Just one is.. meh. Also, her english is pretty good too.

[@rbaleksandar]

The PEGI 18 vibe I'm getting from this video is hilarious. Joke aside - great video! Heard a lot of good things regarding MikroTik and especially the hAP series. Considering buying one once I find out if it's compatible with the Deutsche Telekom Internet services.

[@RavingMad]

Sorry to nitpick but I feel "wave 2" is not something that needs to be or actually should even be mentioned alongside 802.11ax. Wave 2 is referring to 802.11ac Wave 2, because there was a Wave 1 of AC. Wave 2 added extra features to AC wifi. However, AX at present is still wave 1, and includes those AC wave 2 features as part of the base standard. If anything AX wave 2 could refer to the 6E with the 6GHz band enabled, which this product does not offer. I hope people don't misunderstand that Mikrotik has a 802.11ax wifi product that implemented some fictional AX wave 2 while the rest of the industry does not. Irregardless of that 😊 love this presentation and the presenter.

[@mikrotik]

Where do you mean wave2 is mentioned here?

[@RavingMad]

@MikroTik It's in the linked pdf. One of the 6 main features listed at the bottom of first page "802.11AX + WAVE2".

[@Fycstion]

What are the main differences between this device and the smaller ax2? Would this work as a basic router for a small apartment with less than 5 devices connected?

Licence in this one is 6, the ax² comes with licence level 4

[@rochellerochelle1488]

Will there be a version with LTE failover? I know it has an USB-3 port but it would like to use that for a network share.

[@BeNiShMcFly]

which LAN port is with PoE Out? on ac3 is label on port 5, but on ax3 I dont see any label. just for clear I dont mean PoE In/Out on WAN port :)

[@ariewijayanto2225]

it's hot like hap ac2 ?

[@nonamesi]

I was really hoping new devices (including hapax3) will have beefed up storage like 1GB of NAND or more. When doing packet sniffs or deploying containers for home automation, pihole, ... as supported on ROS7 now, measly 128MB just doesn't cut it in 2022 or evern 2023 any more.

[@Wingnut353]

Plug a USB drive in.... you shouldn't be sniffing to the firmware drive.

[@meeder78]

Love the configurability but it only being a 2x2 setup is a bit disappointing considering when it was released and what the price is. Don't get me wrong, it works great once setup properly and using Capsman is really useful when using multiple AP's but Mikrotik should step up their game a bit with newer hardware.

[@guntiss]

You sold me. Got this beast few days ago. Managed to get 750mbps up/down over WiFi, expectations met 👌can't wait to run some containers on it.

Would you comment on the containers? I am looking to get this one for that reason.

[@AKula205]

What is the difference between powering a WiFi router with 12V vs 24V? It is noted, that the router has DC range 12-24V, but why?

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

There are a million reasons, but I can give you a handful. Higher voltage for same wattage means lower amperage draw. In most real-world applications, the difference is probably negligible, but having an acceptable voltage range means more options for power. It also gives you a buffer in case a power supply has ripples or voltage spikes. Especially if you're powering it off-grid, or in mobile or edge-networking scenarios. Or, for something like, in a van, RV, or caravan. For example, I have an hAp AC2 in my toy hauler which runs directly off of the battery bank, and which can be connected to the internet via a 5G USB modem, or by plugging in a 5G phone in tethering mode; and which will soon be getting Starlink internet services. The fact that I can power it directly off the system's solar/battery bank, without any inverters, or DC-DC converters is nice. And I know that my voltages are going to fall well within the nominal 'safe' range for use of this device, even as the battery bank cycles through its charge state as solar power, generators, or 'shore power' charge it, and as it discharges through use overnight, on cloudy days, etc. It's also useful to have a range of acceptable PoE input voltage, since not all PoE switches or power inserters output the same voltage. Hope this is useful.

[@wifiguy_nz]

Will the next model support 48V?

[@liviu2004]

Interested to buy one but no availability yet …

[@Rouly88]

When will be available? I saw ETA on 01/2023 😢😢😢

[@mikrotik]

Preorder at your local distributor before they are all preordered by somebody else

[@nemoforum]

@@mikrotik I've tried that for hAP ax2 - no one offers preordering in Ukraine.

[@zadekeys2194]

F yeah!!!! Now for them to arrive in my country :(

[@florin1087]

MikroTik hAP ax³ has been on the market for 2 years, I think an upgrade would be welcome, something like wifi7, 2.5Gb ports 5 ports, 802.3bt poe power on each port

[@lucapostregna]

Hi all, can I simultaneously connect multiple external drives to a single USB port with usb hub? Can i also add an usb lte modem at the same usb hub?

It should work, but I haven't tested it.

[@AndreiCiuntu-dk9mb]

release date ?

[@GarthPhilpot]

Where is the cap version?

[@tinaralaya5807]

does hapAX3 use license 6 ???

[@ernstoud]

Not even mentioned on the mikrotik website?

[@mikrotik]

This is a product announcement. It's not for sale yet.

[@gabakusa]

URL to buy one?

[@dynabook303]

Is this available at indonesia market?

[@BlakeTechnology99]

Where can I buy one?

[@marakito]

Wifi6 or 6e? Price?

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

OK, but what's the realistic point of a single 2.5Gb eth port? I mean, I guess that's a benefit if you're running a router on a stick config up to another larger 2.5gb switch, or something, but the use case seems highly limited. Without at least two ports being 2.5GB capable, this product seems like a miss to me.

[@mikrotik]

To split 2.5G ISP connection between LAN devices

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

That seems exactly the opposite of the typical use case for 2.5gb or 10gb. Typically, the WAN connection is going to not be more than 1Gb. So the WAN would be left at 1Gb, and LAN traffic would be put on the faster connection, for faster access to local network resources (ie, servers, NAS, or client-to-client traffic. With only one 2.5GB port, that's not possible. And for the cases where people DO have 2.5Gb WAN connections, why would you want to limit all clients to a maximum throughput of 1GB? If you have 2.5GB WAN, it would be silly to only have 1GB LAN. Just my thoughts. Maybe others have a different take.

[@mikrotik]

I guess this depends on the country you are in. Many countries now provide 2.5G uplink from ISP, but most homes only have 1Gbit devices, so this is a great way to provide more bandwidth to your LAN users.

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

@@mikrotik Interesting. Is there not a cost increase to get 2.5gb service? Also, is it delivered over fiber or copper?

[@jembodo]

Man, I'm so many iterations behind with my hAP AC. I'm drooling on this one, not gonna lie.

[@evlo8059]

Supports 160mhz channels? Supports site2site ipsec? How can I use 2Gbps internet connection when it does have single 2.5Gbps port?

[@mikrotik]

Yes / Yes / If you have several gigabit devices connected, your 2.5G will be split among them anyway.

[@sortren22]

@@mikrotik lol that's not true - hAP ax3 only supports 80mHz channel width.

[@m1nusasusplus897]

Already bought RB5009+unifi 6 lite for wifi, sorry guys, you can not in wi-fi, but your router is the best!

[@StanislavSyarkevich]

Why did you printed in the instruction that by default there is no password to access admin if it is actually set?)

[@mikrotik]

Password is on the device sticker

[@StanislavSyarkevich]

@@mikrotik Yes, now I know it, but please check the guide that is included with the router, see section "First Steps"

[@mikrotik]

Some of the first units had older paper in the box. Always use online manual, because it is the latest version.

[@Compiller]

Is usb3 connected device affect on WiFi 2.4GHz on this router?

[@mikrotik]

No

[@a.faizrakhmanov]

Hi, does it support LACP boding 802.3ad?

Yes

[@R3YNZ]

Available now?

[@MrGIEL123]

Is this better than hex gr3?

[@mikrotik]

hEX is Ethernet only, this is a Wi-Fi device

[@MrGIEL123]

@@mikrotik how many pppoe clients with 20 mbps allocation can I service?