HID Headlights: Are they Better than LEDs?

[@WatchGeek]

Just switched from HID to LED a week ago! Everything was great until tonight!!! It rained and the LEDs gave NO LIGHT whatsoever!! My wife kept telling me to turn on the lights 😄. I had to drive with my halogen hi beams to see the road! Tomorrow I am reinstalling my old HID and the LEDs are going up for sale

[@captainkaos754]

LEDS are complete shit.

[@bigdogstreetperformance6761]

If you can't wait 10 seconds for your HID's to get to full brightness you have problems!

[@bailey9r]

That's not the problem, the problem is you can't flash your brights to signal others along the road such as to pass or ask them to turn off their high beams.

[@gece8783]

@@bailey9r Then don't use H4s. I have seperate HIDs for low & high beams, both H7

[@gece8783]

@@bailey9r sorry, I meant seperate lamps for both. Halogens in high beam so that it doesn't dazzle oncoming traffic

[@relevation0]

It can kill you switching beams and not having lights for 10seconds!

[@relevation0]

@@ohiojg1230 yea i bought a 92 ford someone put the hid's on for low beams, when you're cruising on the highway on high then need to go down to low it's deadly because there's no light for a couple seconds. I changed them back.

[@Bass.Player]

HID steps all over LED's especially the 55watt version. 55watt still out last halogen by a long time and they are about 10 bucks a pair and the very best (if there is any real difference) is 25 bucks. I tried several high end LED's (2019) and 55 watt HID is way brighter, there is no comparison. HID is not complicated you have a ballast and a bulb with LED's you have a driver and a bulb. In many cases you do not need a relay kit, I run one because i want to take the load of the light circuit and BTW even 55 watt HID's draw less current than a 55watt Halogen, it's just their start-up current is a little high for a few seconds... There is something about the reflected light from a LED that makes them subpar (IMO). It's hard to explain but reflected light is what allows you to see and LED's somehow do not have good reflective qualities. ======================================================================================= This video is the first one I have seen that is accurate.

[@semperer]

one con... that LED win over HID LED are more powerful then 35W and you cant fit 55W to Bi-Xenons... ;)

[@ssjMaximum22Goku]

I like that you hit the main point when installing these types of bulbs. Only install HID's or LED's if your vehicle has projector lenses. These lights are designed only for projector lenses. If you put them into a headlight that has a reflective housing, you'll be blinding everyone on the road six ways to Sunday. Also properly aiming your projectors is key 👍🏼.

[@iishyxvietxboyii1]

Ahhh that’s why some people blind the shit outta me, lol.

[@jjayguy23]

I put LEDs in my halogen high beam reflectors, and they’re fine. High beams are blinding anyway, that’s why we don’t leave them on all the time.

[@youchris67]

Hey, guys: For any of you who have to remove your entire bumper just to change a headlight bulb, always look for the easier alternative, because there very well might be one where you do not have to go through the headache of entire front bumper removal. For example: My 2017 Mustang GT required entire bumper removal to replace the headlights until I discovered that I can perform this task with a much easier alternative and that is just to turn the wheels sharply where the tires tuck all the way into the wheel well. Then I had to remove part of the wheel well splash shield and one simple fender reinforcement strut held by just two bolts, and then--voila! There was the back of the headlight assembly where all I then had to do was to unscrew the dust caps, pull the electrical connection and pull out the bulbs with absolutely no front bumper removal! If you own a 2015 Mustang and up--you can definitely use this headlight removal procedure. Now, just check if this can be done with your own make and model of car.

[@Once-ler1972]

This double sided tape bolts right up.

[@jaykay4068]

When you're replacing your standard halogen bulb with an led bulb you need to make sure the led chip is in the same place that the filament is on the halogen, the reflector is designed to throw the light coming from that specific area, otherwise you'll have shadows and a scattered beam pattern

[@kevinjfeeney77]

Yup, the LED kits I chose said they had focal beam adjustment... I was able to not only adjust the chips as stated in the video (3 and 6 o'clock) but also where the center of the LED chips would be where the center of the filament once was. For my Subaru Legacy I ran the SNGL brand off Amazon and on the 2001 Odyssey some Sealights..... I should also mention that both cars use the low beams when I need to flash to pass...from an "all lights off" condition. Bad on HIDs, but LEDs don't care

[@myotherchannel4460]

You realize putting an LED in a halogen housing isn't technically road legal, right?

[@jaykay4068]

@myotherchannel4460 I know that's the case for hid, wasn't aware it applied to led aswell

[@schifoso]

When I purchased my vehicle I swapped in H11 HID 4500K low beam bulbs right away (low beams are projectors). This was more than 16 years ago. I went with bulbs and ballasts from Phillips in Germany. They were less yellow in color than stock, and noticeably brighter. So sixteen years later they are still going strong. Don't cheap out - it's with it.

[@RitzyBusiness]

What you say near the end is important... "Aim your lights so they dont blind oncoming drivers". Nothing sucks more then driving on a 2 lane road that has no street lighting then being blinded by a bright LED headlight that is improperly tuned, legit cant see a goddamn thing as if I were seeing the gates of heaven. It is far too common for comfort. Like multiple cars every time I drive at night.

[@azr2d1]

No kidding. too many people these days have bad lighting. Combine that with the crappy DOT standards and driving on 2 lane roads sucks at night in the US.

[@MrPhantomFury]

That light might actually be the gates of heaven if u happen to run into something LOL XD

[@C6Roadster]

That’s why the cops need to watch out for these drivers and write them a nice big ticket.

[@jav_eee]

What you’re complaining about is HID bulbs in halogen reflectors that were never designed for that kind of bulb. The reflector can’t aim the light properly.

[@drunknmunky127]

@@jav_eee Exactly. The reflector was designed to a specific source. Once you change that source the system is no longer doing anything properly. It may be brighter but it's basically a guarantee that you are glaring other drivers. The more light, the more pain for other drivers, and the more brights you'll see flashed back at you. Honestly, if you have a bulb system, the best "upgrade" you can do is buying a higher output bulb. At least then the beam pattern will remain mostly the same, even though it still likely will no longer pass legal pattern regulation and will still put more light in other driver's eyes.

[@theeabster1983]

How about comparing $150 LED kit against $150 HID kit. I think that would be a lot better video. Just from hearing the price alone I got a feelin the HID kit is going outperform the LED hands down?

[@Wishbone420]

Cant agree more!

[@BongoisaPyro]

Lol finally someone with common sense he mentions that the hids are more white in color but the LEDs are blue but then he says he got the LEDs in 5500k when 6k give off that pure white color exactly like the hids so it sounds to me like this guy doesn't know what he's saying lol

[@Peylix]

@@BongoisaPyro 5500k is actually more white than 6000k. The higher the kelven, the more blue they become. Case in point. Compare 8000k to 6000k to 5500k. 5000k-5500k is the purist white you can get. Anything below becomes more warmer or yellow. Higher becomes more colder and blue. I personally like 6000k, as I like that extra tint of blue.

[@johnostrum6953]

the eabster my thoughts exactly. He’s comparing the best of the best in the aftermarket HID world to some run of the mill Amazon LEDs. Apples to oranges

[@parkerm8596]

or a 100$led vs a 20$ led

[@philipokings5745]

Thanks alot cos this video made me save money, especially when u emphasized on positioning of the LED bulb inside the lamp matters.... That changed everything. Now my car now emits bright high beam. Thanks a million 🙂

[@Smart-Skippy]

I have an E36 Bimmer and upgraded to 5000K 55 Watt HIDs 7 years ago. Never burnt out a bulb and never had a day's trouble. 55 Watt gives a sexy spread of light and 5000K is Daylight. Don't choose another colour. Higher gives harsh light and lower looks warm. I agree about high beams. I use 100 watt Xenon as I rarely go out of the city, so the extra wattage works well

[@efiji]

Thanks for the detailed explanation of the LED bulbs position. I’m wandering why the lights focused on the high side when switching to low beam. Glaring oncoming traffic. The high beam focused alright though. After aligned to left & right just like in the video, the focused beam is more accurate. By the way, I’m using H4 4300k LED bulb. More suitable for bad weather. Have a nice day! Safwan from Malaysia!

[@SupremeGodSon]

I recommend HID's for your low beams. LED's for your Fog Lights and High Beams. That's the best way to have it.

[@nv1493]

Morimoto makes a good hid kit. Remember that they also provide CANBUS connectors from original headlight connector to the ballast. In those cases you typically don't use the relay kit. That ensures you don't see headlight off warnings on the dash.

[@iishyxvietxboyii1]

I ran their HIDs on my 2018 Toyota Highlander with no relay for 4 years with no problems.

[@saisayasith]

Dude you are so original with content. Thank you for being the leading automotive expert KZbin could buy.

[@rue6778]

"This might look like a mess but it's really not" every car guy ever

[@raymathews7035]

I'd rather have LED's than HID's. I've done this to my Camry. the lightning is awesome. (All LED'S). My preference.

[@flyhacking5830]

1. Always retrofit a quality projector for using HIDs. 2. LEDs are good everywhere except for headlights regardless of it being a reflector or projector. 3. Any aftermarket LED is not going to properly disperse light compared to an HID in a HID projector. 4. Not all projectors are created the same. There are also halogen projectors. Some suck while others are able to take HID's just fine. 5. If you think having HID's in your reflector bowl is brighter, you're wrong. You don't want foreground (light directly in front of the car). That hurts your far-seeing vision since your eyes focus on the brighter spot. 6. The higher the kelvin, the less usable light there is. The highest Kelvin you want to think about is 6500k. Anything above looks terrible and is useless. 5500k is pure white but is not good for snow and/or rain. 4300/4500k is the best in terms of usable light and it puts the least strain on the eyes.

[@Dubst3pT3ch]

Philips finally released a DOT rated LED headlight that gives proper light patterns. They might finally have a LED replacement that works.

[@flyhacking5830]

@@Dubst3pT3ch there are OEM led headlights that might work but any plug and play solution for now is a bit iffy

[@Dubst3pT3ch]

@@flyhacking5830 they are plug and play, if they pass DOT they should be fine.

[@flyhacking5830]

@@Dubst3pT3ch anything could "pass DOT" except DOT doesn't do testing on it. Check out any Chinese led bulb, they can claim DOT compliant or DOT approved

[@SofaKingTouge]

1. Wrong. Things have changed a lot. 2. Zes chips have really improved led bulbs. A piaa platinum is really impressive although 6000k sucks ass. 3. Led are getting better but will never work better then halogen or hid. 4. I have little experience with this so can't comment. 5. That makes no sense. If you are talking about a sloppy beam pattern blinding you then i agree. Higher kelvin plus a sloppy pattern will blind you. 6. I absolutely %100 agree with this. 4000k or lower improves visiblity and reaction time. Its frustrating trying to convince people of this. Only way i found to really prove it is 150mph down a windy country road. You cannot see where you are going. Side note... Making led at 6000k gives you a higher lux then 4000k. Hid is the opposite. 4000k gives you higher lux then 6000k.

[@dewaltxr7628]

My 6pcs of HID installed in my car for 9yrs still working fine no issues about it. The problem with leds are the fans when it stops it overheats may cause fire.

[@drkdvn]

I have a set of LED H4 bulbs in my car with a reflector housing and they seem to work great! Minimal dark spots and the bulbs have the proper shielding so they wont blind anybody. Like you mentioned though it depends completely on the type of headlight and bulb combination.

[@iishyxvietxboyii1]

LEDs are better in reflectors than projectors. Do you blind people?

[@jonmanilenio]

@@iishyxvietxboyii1 better in projectors

[@Pdbhai318]

@@iishyxvietxboyii1 LED’ s are not meant for reflector type headlights. It works well in Projectors.

[@pdxproductions7442]

I dont think I've seen better walkthrough/tutorial than this anywhere on KZbin. Very nice job explaining and showing what you are doing in the video.

[@HashMyth]

LED is super simple, easy install and plug and play. HID is better light but the bulbs are very fragile and can randomly burn out before the end life. More complex to install (depends on your ride as some are super open in the engine bay vs others). Overall LED's vs HID both have pros and cons. But LED's are lighter on the wallet

[@Lucas-dz4ye]

Hash Myth LED isn’t plug and play if you’re changing from halogen.

[@Michael-yc9ex]

@@Lucas-dz4ye Yes, Yes they are. lmfao

[@Lucas-dz4ye]

@@Michael-yc9ex Nah you need to change the housing case too for headlights, unless you wanna blind every oncoming vehicle

[@alvertosb.p.9424]

I fell into a deep sleeping trance within 5 minutes of listening. Your video is great for hypnosis-HID vs Hypnosis.

[@joku8900]

I prefer HID bulbs more than LED ones even though I have both of them at my car in auxilary lights. Only thing why LED's sucks is winter. At here Finland its usually cold and snowy at winter. That causes that headlights to surface freeze and then light patter is ruined and lights are illuminating very bad. HID's generates heat and it melts ice off from headlight glass. LED's (atleast mine) cant do that. So HID's are better than LED's at cold&snowy areas

[@waqaspathan3337]

JJT OG sure, but the HID still have to fight the cold temperatures when they warm up, because they will warm up slower they will break down quicker than the LEDs

[@joku8900]

I havent got any HID -bulb breakdowns at my system and those bulbs are like in 3 years old. But I have blown many (3 -5) ballast -units. But those hidsets are cheap chinese knockoffs, like 25-30€ per set. And yea those lights turns on slower than leds but its ok. Delay to full brightness is like 15sec. I usually turn them on before heading to darkness from streetlights.

[@waqaspathan3337]

JJT OG makes sense, do you drive alot? how many miles do u drive a year

[@joku8900]

@waqas pathan Like 30 000km/year. But bought second car for daily driver so only drove ~16 000km with my car which has these lights. Other one is now at 11 200km and counting. Bought it at June D:

[@christhompson4950]

JJT OG how cold does it usually get there? Just wanted to know if it’s too cold here.

[@KirkTheGod]

You can take it one step further and throw in a bi-xenon projector with the HIDs. The LED gives you a nice flash-to-pass but the bi-xenon projector will light up the road for miles

[@Franco96GTA]

HID in Projectors is the best option. Led are good in reflectors

[@speedfreak1161]

I tend to agree with you on this one

[@samuelwong4152]

u want more lights ? just add additional spotlights or foglights WITH LED. the more the merrier, since they are bloody cheaper than HID

[@jaygatz3735]

I didnt really pay attention to the video. Im sorry for that. Dont have time to watch it now, But alot of people over look this. Led's (light emitting diode) are bright, vivid, and depending on the headlight housing and quality of the bulb can look amazing. But if you live in the northern states and get winter weather, the appealing look and less power might seem like something to good to pass up. But LED's dont get very hot. And will not melt the ice / snow build up which will occur during the winter months. Some led's say they have a heater element in them, but they still dont work very good. HID's (high intensity discharge ) is an arc basically. It gets hot. And will melt snow. If you got the loot, buy both. One for the summer (leds), and Hid's for the winter. Also give this guy a like and subscribe to his channel. The link is below his video. Everyone have a great and safe holiday season, and an amazing new year!

[@jonny4509torres]

LEDs all day for me personally. Cheaper, way easier to install, no warm up period, and still much brighter than stock. Not to mention longevity. A good quality set of LEDs is really close the brightness of many HIDs, and in a few years, they’ll surpass them.

[@NotME535]

Xenon and LED's are excellent lights, but on a headlight made for it. When you start modifying the light system it does not end well, usually. Xenon lights can damage the halogen headlights, as they are not prepared for xenon, and they almost never aim as they should. Here in Portugal, both aftermarket LED's and xenon are illegal (thankfully), as you need a headlight washer and proper headlight to run xenon, as well as auto-leveler for the headlight. For LED's you do not need the washer, does not make sense, but whatever. Don't get me wrong, LED's and Xenon are the best way to illuminate the road, but the lighting system must be prepared for it, and any modification from halogen to these systems are illegal and won't end well. Here (in Portugal) it is a direct fail in periodic inspection, unless the car is factory ready to these systems, or otherwise properly prepared. Taking a bulb out and swapping it for another is not properly prepared.

[@Interich]

Well, nowadays you also get the projector for some xenon. Luckily my car has xenon headlights as standard, although mine didn't. I will be fitting a morimoto projector especific for the hid kit from them. Is a shame not every country allows that. On the yearly inspection, you can get lucky or not. Last year my car went with HIDs on halogen headlights and because I have the covers of headlight washers no issues came on my mind.

[@bosoares]

In the US (and I bet Canada too) it’s also illegal to do this but there’s no enforcement. People dot it and go out blinding everyone. I hate being followed by people that modified their lights, especially trucks.

[@NotME535]

@@bosoares Same here. It is illegal, and almost always blinds everybody, as the hedlights aren't made for it. Sometimes police punishes, yes, but only trafic police can do it. In inspection it is a sure fail, and the punishment is getting the car inspected, in inspection B. We have mandatory inspection (thankfully) but not all cars are obligated to go every year. The first inspection is when a car is 4 years old, the it is inspected every 2 years until it is 8 years old, after that it is inspected every year. Inspection B happens when an officer mandates it, or when a car is crashed and repaired, I believe. I'm not sure on this last one.

[@Alvarwheezy]

@@bosoares people blinding other most likely have hids or led in reflector housing and not aimed properly

[@QuickMind]

Aftermarket Led's are not illegal in Portugal, only Xenon are.

[@LBCAndrew]

HID bulbs even during their warm-up are still FAR FAR better than any LED

[@edawson45]

Bro....U did a really good job with this vid...very informative!! Thanks!!! Keep it up!!

[@itsjustavtec3356]

I have a 2010 Accord Coupe V6 and I don’t have to remove the headlights or bumper to install new lights. For the headlights you access under hood and fog lights access through front wheel fender liners. Very easy to do.

[@KamiKaXi]

but remember that LEDs are more friendly with your alternator and battery

[@Eric2300jeep]

HID systems use less energy than a stock halogen system in the long run though. With the exception of bulb startup/warm-up. Unless you're constantly using your headlights with your vehicle not running, there's no need to use an LED system.

[@KamiKaXi]

@@Eric2300jeep but LED uses a lot less power and they tend to last more, a lot more

[@versag3776]

High output LEDs or smds aren't that much more energy efficient than a halogen. The high output LEDs produce a lot of heat radiation too

[@coreymccracken7329]

I’m still rocking 55watt HIDS. For the pass 3years. I want and payed $130 for some so called badass LEDs and they was trash

[@caseythomas9977]

@@coreymccracken7329 but what happens when your system hits if you have 1

[@muneebtoefy9448]

I bought a full light blue LED conversion which I replaced with a yellow conversion. The yellow bulbs ends up looking much better and actually works during the thick winter fog and rain.

[@chubbysumo2230]

HID is just "High intensity discharge". You can get HID Xenon arc lamps, HID Halogen, and HID LED. In most places, if your vehicle came with Halogen bulbs in reflector housings, it is against the law to change them to something else, and you also end up blinding other drivers. Don't be that douch that blinds everyone.

[@JohanlastZa]

Yeah please don't cause this victim has Hella lights pointed right back if they decide to be a douche....muwahahaha

[@bleachinuri]

@@JohanlastZa yes and i have high powered spot lights that will burn your retinas when you butt hurt idiots high beam me in my unmodified jeep grand cherokee with hids when i only have low beams on

[@kochumvk]

What is an HID LED !?

[@Yeetilini]

@@bleachinuri I have an old 727 landing light I use as a spotlight just for people that bright light me when my lowbeams are on. If they want to be childish, I'm going to insure they can't see shit for the next 10 minutes

[@joe7528]

I think HID's will eventually come up with a less complicated setup and cut the warm up time out LED's are out sales HID's due to the plug and play and no warm up time and last longer so it's just a matter of time HID'S will make changes to the system so it will compete with LED's setups

[@K_N_44]

HID can't change their technology anymore... It is what it is... I'm still using HIDs but LED is the evolution

[@tylerphelps4868]

Watched 5 minutes and it was agonizing. Skipped ahead to see output shots and it was even worse than watching the beginning. You need to do some research on HIDs and LEDs before you start recommending things. Headlight Revolution here on KZbin is a good place to start

[@itzj34]

Was thinking the same thing. Wish he did his research before recommending anything or giving out bad information

[@stewills9711]

Typical youtube moron. How did this even get recommended ?

[@bigl4201]

Damn man. This comment thread hit Milan right in his soul. Tough crowd lol

[@DeaDPooL-XforceX]

But headlight revolution does trucks not cars or riced.

[@tylerphelps4868]

@@DeaDPooL-XforceX they do primarily do trucks yes but if that's all you took from their channel you need to look a little closer. What they talk about in regards to pattern, scatter, lux vs lumens, etc is universal. If your vehicle does not have a good pattern from the factory, LEDs are only going to exacerbate it. If you do however have a good pattern that is nice and focused with a nice cutoff where it keeps glare down, a GOOD LED bulb (unlike what is shown here) is a viable option

[@kylegier]

Another thing to note is that 35 watt ballasts vs 55 watt will change the color as well. A 55 W (6000K) will be more of a white, whereas a 35W will clearly look blue

[@pajlisthoj9898]

Great idea honda when changing the light in my kitchen remove the entire celling wow. Law makers should force auto maker to make light easy access to change.

[@brandonzornes1868]

LEDs. Better efficiency and better quality. Not to mention the instant power up. But great video. I was unfamiliar with HIDs. Thank you for the education.

[@danieln2448]

Hid are way better

[@Rumeel12708]

Well the Hikari LED bulbs are the best!For projectors and reflectors! $100 would be more of a equal comparison. Nice video been wanting to see more of the nineo LEDs, try Techmax Mini LEDs as well.

[@gmeister03]

I made a full led conversation on my ‘02 explorer. Hardest part was the blinker relay. I have HID’s in my low beams and my fogs. Way more light than led’s.

[@GeorgeJapa]

Test this HID kit vs Philips X-treme Ultinon LED is the same price range.

[@yahiaelattar]

I have a morimoto XB55 HID kit installed in my car year and half ago. It is installed on low beam. High beam I am using LED also. But I've never changed the HID bulbs yet as you mentioned. And also in my area I have a full warranty of three years.

[@chuckwicksimmons5813]

I have both HID and L.e.d's HI d's the best way to go don't let the salesman sell you on Le d's . led el turn right onto that you don't have no wait time I live in Alaska so 9 months out of the year it's Winter and you just don't start your car and go need to let the car warm up first..anyways with the HID It takes to the count of 4 and they ignite and the color is much much better and brighter

[@georgelambo5145]

to remove the bulbs you can go through the front fender liners by removing them and for hi beams you can just reach for them.

[@ZynovFTW]

Recently went from LED low beam to a 55W 6500k HID kit. Major improvement over LED because there are no dark spots in the beam.

[@kiyoponnn]

6500K is not good for visibility in some conditions

[@ZynovFTW]

I've had no problems with the kit I bought. 6500k is the perfect Kelvin for blueness and visibility imo.

[@hifiman4562]

I went with retrofitsource hid components. Not a kit, pieced together all I needed. I can pull up next to any bmw or lexus at night....I have more light on the ground than they do. It's glorious.

[@1971sls]

I just came here for the comment section for entertainment. I am very amused as I was hoping to be. Thank you!

[@korishan]

Thanks for the detail description of how the LED bulbs are to be installed. I've had LED lights in the past, and I wasn't thrilled with them. I'm pretty sure now that you brought this up that it was due to them not facing the right direction in the housing. I do remember being able to turn the LED inside of the retainer ring, but didn't know why it was like that. This makes a lot of sense. 👍😁🧐

[@MrPuroMichoacan13]

Those are not the "best" LEDs, they are cheap LED bulbs!

[@thepurdychannel8866]

Cree leds are the best

[@LamborghiniReven1000]

They produce a good beam pattern, what more could you ask for?

[@LamborghiniReven1000]

@@MrPuroMichoacan13 beam pattern is the same as projection unless I'm not understanding you. And if they have a good beam pattern, that means they retain a hot spot. If they retain a hotspot the lumens will be brighter than halogen.

[@thepurdychannel8866]

@@LamborghiniReven1000 perfect beam pattern, color temperature and lumens

[@timvenables6738]

Lamps*

[@edwardsteinjolt3720]

I have both, Leds and Hids, leds for fogs and flashing/highs, projected 55w hid 5k for driving lights and solenoid highs (like modern BMW does). Hid produces a noticeable higher light output and has a larger penetration down the road, Im looking forward to do 55w 6 karats projected high density leds now that the new capacitors generation has been released. A well done led setup will outperform HID in lux output, lumens, speed, and durability.

[@TTimpreza]

hids do not even light the reflectors on the road ,I have LED's that light the reflectors on the road 2.5 miles away.

[@Damitsall]

55 watt last only a year? Who told you that? I have had a few 55 watt kits and all the bulbs I had lasted a minimum of 5 years. The short one at 5 years would have gone longer if my car didnt get wrecked.

[@JohnnyGification]

I have HIDs from factory. The car was made in 2011. Not one bulb has gone bad. I can only imagine how long the LEDs can go. 20 years? 😮.

[@Phil-D83]

Hids are brighter, work better in projectors. Leds work well in reflectiors.

[@techderaudios]

Yeah i have reflector and leds work fine

[@josealgaba4083]

Plain and simple explanation 👌

[@kauaisfinest14]

You can buy brighter leds there’s so many variations

[@Michaelxx3232]

philip dias I have LED in reflector and it is better than hids in projector

[@Phil-D83]

I find hids+projector are still brighter and provide more light, for the moment

[@jordanclubine139]

Putting an LED bulb in a projector that wasn't meant for LEDs is about one of the dumbest things you can do. If it was meant for HIDs, keep HIDs in there. Projectors with HIDs form a hotspot which is where most of the beam is focused and you will never get that with those junk LED bulbs. And do not put 55W HIDs in either, unless you want to melt your housings. If you want better light output, retrofit some proper projectors and use HID bulbs (Or a LED projector with a LED bulb).

[@azndrgnboi34]

LED are way overpriced for the output. The drawback also is the amount of heat they produce. Since HID has been banned in most States, LED quickly became the norm but the pricing remained the same if not higher than HID. I just wish companies like PIAA or Philips continued making HIDs. Now we just get Chinese quality HID and LED that is NOT gaurenteed to last a year.

[@Peylix]

Banned? Where? lol Phillips still makes Xenon bulbs too. I just bought a pair for backup if my Morimoto bulbs go.

[@da-rellc.8529]

I guess I feel that HID lights is great for Projector headlights but LED are great for reflector housings. Only way I say that since I have a 2016 Civic touring and my lights is perfect at night with a wide low beam view.

[@christianguzman8228]

13:11 Yo, you're welcome.

[@brantbrown49]

I just wanted a yes or no, this video could've been 10 seconds long and I'd be so much happier

[@milanmastracci]

Its not a yes and no answer. It depends on what light you are replacing, how simple of a install you want, and the price you want to pay.

[@abshassan]

LEDs are rubbish in my Projector style housing Headlights. HIDs only lasted about 1.5 years. In the end, I went back to my H7 stock bulbs, they are still the best in terms of light output, light dispersion ad overall quality.

[@mouthies3]

Not if you buy quality parts.

[@MattOn1010]

My Hid have never let me down, I have been using it for a lot longer than 1.5 years. Of course electronic can break down. But halogen have no chance of better brightness than hid, u maybe use a 35w ballast. I use 100w.

[@MisterNiggaX]

I have a car with stock d2r 35 watt hid and a car with stock h7's and the hids FAR outperform the h7's and I have vosla 120+ h7 bulbs

[@19910602011]

i have the same hid's in my car since 2015 and never changed bulb or ballast if people took time to read instructions it will last 3 important rules to note: 1. never flash hid's on & off 2. when u put it on let it fully warm up before turning off 3.use slightly higher amp fuse i bought 2 identical kits for my car and my mom and she gone through 3 bulbs so far because she flashes people on the road

[@talon4x4]

@@19910602011 HIDs are supposed to be used as low beams. Flashing someone has no effect on HIDs because you are flashing your high beam lights.

[@thetraindriver01]

Nice showcase Milan, thanks for the effort in swapping the bulbs around 👍👍👍👍

[@jermpeeps]

“Best possible lighting as possible”

[@Clesarie]

I personally just like hid. Theres something about it that just feels and produces a light I like more.

[@beast11135]

It Is a nice beam. It feels a little warmer. But I prefer LED just because of how easy It Is. They're just plug and play. Plus they last a lot longer. I went through 2 good sets of Phillips halogen bulbs within a year of driving because I drive a lot at night. I've had my LEDs for 2 years with no issues. I just bought the newer style LEDs similar to the one he showed on this video for my new car. Can't wait to see how great they light up the road.

[@Overlandlife_]

I replaced my hid with led. And will never go back to hid. Lots of problems

[@dewaltxr7628]

Haha maybe u bought cheap HID i had mine 6pcs installed 9yrs now and no problem at all.

[@calvinlaudrensio415]

I got $200 HID kit and still going strong after 8 years. Just make sure you did the wiring right and purchase a high quality HID instead of the cheapo sketchy one that runs the risk of burning the whole car down.

[@nicsutton3831]

Not sure if it was on that ole Chevy pickup you have there in your pic but they hate hid's, had 3 ballasts and 4 bulbs, in a year, go bad in a 95 c/k. New Ford with hid kit 3 years later no problems

[@Overlandlife_]

Nic Sutton I put led on my k10 in the pic but I have a 2000 Silverado as my daily I have to flash high beams for one hid to come on but my old 07 Colorado I had I went from hid to led

[@Overlandlife_]

Calvin Laudrensio it was about 60 on eBay. Kensun I ran in my old Colorado

[@disneyjoe7]

I installed HID to a 2014 accord without the relay. Didn’t feel it was needed as the HID bulb is using less power then a halogen bulb would. Been running for 4 years now no problems.

[@rolandob4492]

Though HIDs put more light output do they last a good amount of time and what would be the right brand to choose from if your looking to buy HID bulbs

[@Dubst3pT3ch]

Morimoto.

[@Alvarwheezy]

I've had mine for 4 years so far, morimoto is probably the best for projectors. Osram morimoto and Philips are good for bulbs

[@six.7lopez]

Gtr lighting

[@rolandob4492]

Six.7 Lopez do you have gtr lighting on yours? If so how’s it going

[@playdg]

Same as for just about anything else: Philips or Sylvania/Osram. Even Morimoto is an upstart in comparison.

[@MelFireHD]

I just learned that the bulb type is printed on the lens. Thanks bud!!

[@Steve-ec6ed]

wtf happened to the old days where you could pop you hood and swap out a bulb in less than 5 minutes? I know why they do it but its just ridiculous you need to take your whole front end apart to change out a bulb.

[@ddd228]

Some cars are a bloody nightmare! 2001 Malibu for one. The entire front of the car has to come off.1-2 hours.

[@roya.cathcartjr.5042]

I miss the vehicles of the early 1980's and prior years that I had which used the glass sealed beam headlights which don't fog with oxidation like the headlight housing of today and the halogens back then are just as bright as the halogens of today and they were cheaper and easier to replace.

[@keloduma]

LEDs are good for normal reflector style headlights. Brigther than OEM. And you can still maintain your beam pattern. But if you want ultimate brightness in the aftermarket scene stick to HIDs with projectors.

[@omar-wf8zl]

You should see about getting a mic that clips to you're shirt for videos like this.

[@troy3456789]

LEDs get dimmer as the temperature rises in the electronics. They start off very bright, then depending how good the heat sink or heat sink and fan is, will dim. Current flow and temperature have a negative coefficient. As temperature rises in a circuit, current flow decreases in that circuit. This is the opposite for HID bulbs, as the longer they are on the brighter they get and they do not get hot to the point of reducing current flow. Your set up is perfect: HIDs for low beams and anything else but HIDs for high beams. Plus, HID bulbs are dirt cheap on ebay (less than $11 each) , and in my opinion they've all been really good so far and last a long time to boot. Most of the time you don't need the relay kit for either the 35 watt or 55 watt HID ballasts; just make sure they are AC ballasts so you get the best performance out of them.

[@JackRR15]

That's not 100% true that HID high beams are not optimal for high beam. My car uses the same HID bulb and projector for low beam or high beam, just sends more power to it and it gets brighter. and it's already warmed up from driving.

[@HksF16]

OEM ballast are far superior than aftermarket ballast that is why they don't use aftermarket ballast on high beam

[@flyhacking5830]

You're referring to bi-xenon. That's different from having a separate reflector bowl

[@JackRR15]

@@flyhacking5830 Ahhh

[@milanmastracci]

Yeah those are Bi-Xenons. The HID bulb is in one projector, and when the high-beam is selected, an actuator moves a shield to allow all of the light to be emitted from the projector. My 370Z has the same style headlights. For that entire operation, the HID is powered on and does not change in power.

[@flyhacking5830]

@@milanmastracci with OEM setups you are correct. But in the aftermarket world they have designed ballasts that go from 35W on low beam to 55W on high beam.

[@caseythomas9977]

You made a great video loved it... You were more in-depth than others I've seen.... But I'm gonna stick with led for now..... But props to your video..... Excellent 👍

[@caseythomas9977]

Plus I run a pretty stereo system and my LEDs don't dim at all

[@AltoMando57]

10:03 he said nut...LMAO

[@jacksonludwig8560]

Also, please do an aiming video. The adjustment is easy but I keep reading conflicting info about whether the beam should fall just below the centerline at 25 ft, or 2 inches below the centerline at 25 ft.

[@kylerokitjanski7598]

Yes, buy a 55w ballast and melt your expensive lights. 35w is MORE then sufficient.

[@-zerocool-]

Dont talk wet, ive run 55w for two years no issues

[@daylefound9313]

NO. If you had 55w halogens to start with, the effect (heat load) is the same. ie they won't melt your headlights

[@six.7lopez]

I have the 55w on my ram 2017 3500 and it's been a year and a half no issues love them

[@rowboyto156]

ive been using 55w hid for my 2008 scion tc since 2012 and my commute is an hour to and from work. my work ends at 11pm so i drive with my lights on for at least an hour. its been 6 years and my headlights are still good, i dont think you know what youre talking about

[@gmeister03]

I run 55’s. Stupid bright. No melting

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Dude, thanksgivings for explaining this I have a Yukon and I have been struggling with which system to upgrade to. Why a 75k truck has halogens is way beyond me.

[@buffalobmf]

never had a HID ballast no matter the brand last a winter. got fed up with it last winter and just went to LEDs

[@mouthies3]

Oem ballasts don't fail often. You just bought cheap stuff.

[@buffalobmf]

@@mouthies3 morimoto, xenon, kensun. thats it only had HIDs for 3 winters the slush and the -15degree temps nothing holds up so i went to LED middle of last winter got tired of changing ballasts for headlights and fog lights 3 times a winter. i had OEM hid kit on my last truck those went out for the 2yrs i had that too but that was back in 2011

[@christhompson4950]

john russo -15 degrees c or f?

[@buffalobmf]

@@christhompson4950 -15F. i get very cold winters. love HID cause i park outside and they melt the ice from my headlights but no use if they dont work anyhow

[@christhompson4950]

john russo that’s about what we get here. Thanks

[@lynolad]

Opinion... the small improvement seen in HID brightness seen in the comparison video towards LEDS is not worth an upgrade from factory fitted LED lights too HIDS if you've got halogen headlights with projector style headlights (please don't put HIDS in reflector headlights! You know who you are!) Then you can choose between HIDS & LEDS but if you've already got LEDS don't bother swapping to HIDS it's not worth the upped cost & installation process, you only get a small improvement & LEDS are more than adequate, that's why I would say 8/10 car manufacturers have made the swap from HIDS too LED & are committed to improving LED, the longer life span & more reliable power its a no brainer :)

[@sic22l]

Blue light is not nicer on the eyes. It's more irritating, causes eye fatigue (and permanent damage), has worse color reproduction and it messes up the perspective whic is a key to estimate the speed.

[@sic22l]

It's not about brightness but color temperature and the amount of blue light.

[@The_MindLight]

Morimotos are very good. We sell and install a lot. Very very rare to have any issues at all. Also, GTR Lighting HIDs and LEDs are very nice. Same thing goes for GTR little to no issues at all and we've done tons. Just my opinion..

[@jasperwbarnesjr4539]

I have led’s from Auxbeam I think you should test those out

[@MrHomolka]

Same. I have them for my low/high/fogs. My high beams (9005) are honestly insane for $30.

[@josehoncho3963]

Best video on yt explaining everything thanks a lot dude !

[@BLK03COBRA]

10:04 is where everyone decides to just go with LEDs instead.

[@artcomestoyou]

Question : what if you have all LED including the Fog lights and run then all together. Would the output be sigficant and so last a while? Great video. Thanks

[@Audios81]

Both very cheap quality HIDs and LEDs. Proper LEDs are far superior than any HID set ups. This is for cheapy replacement bulbs which are not only horrible in quality but in most countries illegal as the scatter pattern in particular cars were not intended to use either HID or LED bulbs. The projector low beams can use HID without much fussing about, but the stock standard reflectors cannot. So when you see a car driving at you and they are blinding you, it isn't a new BMW or Audi, it's a 15 year old Honda Accord that has had its bulbs replaced by its novice driver, who is utterly clueless, but this is the age of KZbin and everyone thinks they know everything about cars because they also learned on someone else's KZbin video 5 years ago. Wrong then is still wrong now.

[@smack9x]

How do you figure they far superior? I rented a corolla with projector LEDs I was not impressed at all.

[@ricardodesouza7229]

I'm fairly new to my 07 4runner. Looking to do this upgrade on my lights including the fog lights. What's the name of the LEDs you installed and where can I purchase them?

[@terryb4563]

JJS I totally agree, I had good 35 Watt HID lights in my projector headlights as well as high beam and the high beam was just to slow so installing LEDS was a no brainer but the output surprised the hell out of me so installed the same 35 Watt LED in projectors and oh my god, let there be light, LED the only way to go.

[@hermanhunter6531]

I tried several different led bulbs in my projector housing and none where as bright as my new hid setup. The hids I installed make almost twice the light output vs the led bulbs and have a much better beam pattern😃

[@fienddylan12354]

HID vs. LED par for par HID is brighter, wider beam, and reaches further. This is after researching countless hours of comparison videos and talking with The Retrofit Source who literally all they do is headlights.

[@LimpHz]

The warm up time has a direct relationship with the ballasts. You should’ve used Fast Bright ballasts - they’re literally instant on.

[@zaim8506]

Aftermarket LED's suck period OEM LED's with computers are better than HID's tho acuras benz's infiniti etc.

[@ssjMaximum22Goku]

Definitely, but that's why they cost so much at the dealer to replace.

[@Referencez]

Very informative, and easy to watch video. High quality, you deserve more subscribers man

[@Soul-Gigi]

Bro your engine bay is all full of rust

[@ElkStirrinTheHoney]

Great Video. Other Pros/Cons.. Halogens - Vibration = bad, Startup = Good, Light Output = Ok HID's - Vibration = Good, Startup = ramp-up, needs to cool before starting up again, Light Output = Great LED's - Vibration = Good, Startup = Good, Light Output Good-Great. LED Light Output technology is increasing every year.

[@Andreas16375]

How to make everyone on the road hate you: do a HID or LED swap and blind every car in oncoming traffic because your light housing isn't made for those lights and doesn't have a projector. And if you live in europe your car will fail inspection in most countries. You can get a ticket, etc. Not worth all the fuss, Just get whitevision halogen lights if you don't like the fact that they shine yellow and want a little better illumination

[@angelomartinez9039]

your the reason Europe sucks.

[@aotvproductions6809]

Aphexis d

[@mikeheckman4995]

@@angelomartinez9039 LOL!! That comment rocks! Europe does suck, but I don't think that he's the reason. LOL!

[@Mlowery85]

You can also skip installing the relay altogether. I’ve done a dozen HID kits across different makes and have both never used the relays and also never had an issue

[@filip1997andersson]

You talk too much just get to the point

[@Steve.Nguyen]

Filip Andersson why don’t you just make your own KZbin video

[@bEEBO178]

With HID you don't have to change bulbs and ballast every year. Not changed the bulbs or ballast on my HIDs since 2005 when the car was new. They have only now just gone bad so changed with Osram nightbreakers. 15 years isn't bad!

[@redneckit429]

if you have a lifted truck please dont use the hid. be considerate and know you are blinding people

[@bleachinuri]

i have a 2016 dodge ram with factory projectors with hids, and i constantly get morons high beaming me when my low beams are on, i had the head lights aimed by the dealer and a specialist that only deals with hids and projector lights, still get butt hurt morons fucking high beaming me, i just had a guy follow me to me house to start shit, but i grabbed him by his cheek and shoved my desert eagle into his word hole all the sudden he didn't have anything else to say and pissed himself

[@NavyDave219]

@@bleachinuri if your truck is lifted chances are you have to adjust for the change in height. Also the dealer will only adjust to factory specs when they should account for glare. I've had dealerships do this and blinded the shit out of people until I adjusted the lights a bit lower.

[@bleachinuri]

@@NavyDave219 it's not lifted it's 100 percent stock

[@nicksmith8166]

bleachinuri you still need to adjust them down. Putting HID bulbs in halogen projectors is fine but the cutoff isn’t as sharp and there is glare. I had to adjust my headlights down quite a bit from factory spec when I installed HIDs. Quit being a dick and just do it.

[@bleachinuri]

@@nicksmith8166 did you not read my post moron its 100 percent stock

[@FirstLast-kb7kn]

It also depends on how the headlights are angled. If you aim them too high you will blind oncoming traffic; if they are too low, there will be inadequate illumination, no matter what type of bulb you use.