Yea…It’s That Good - MAX REVEWS: Lies of P

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Max gives his closing thoughts on Lies of P and reviews the gameplay and story of what might be his favorite game of 2023.
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[@FattyZee]

They nailed pretty much every aspect of what makes a Souls game, they also released a game that was polished without bugs and well optimised and the fact that this game from a dev that like...nobody had heard of AND it was there second game? Incredibly excited to see what Round 8 can do in the future

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

It's not as if there's zero bugs at all; There are a couple that can sprout up from time to time. However, given the scope of the project compared to how obscure Round 8 are, that's by no means a black mark: If anything, it's actually kind of impressive the game is THAT polished.

[@FattyZee]

@dragonbornexpress5650 yeah, I defintely didn't encounter anything in my playthrough, it's a little grim of the times that a game that works as it should without any major hitches gets such high praise for doing so when it should be the standard, but I think its more impressive given this unknown studio pulled it off

[@DRKLRD-kv4cm]

​@@dragonbornexpress5650even in terms of optimization, the game Is Absolutely great, if compared to Lords of the fallen 2023

[@wakandaforever616]

Actually Neowiz is huge in mobile gaming

[@FattyZee]

@@wakandaforever616 Neowiz is the publisher, this is only Round 8's second game

[@Dracobyte]

The soundtrack by itself makes Lies of P a gem that deserves more recognition.

[@Konfide4043]

Have discovered one song for the record player and I love it alot 😍

[@Lutinpofin]

To be honest, I found most of the records that you play in the gramophone to be insufferably 1-dimensional cheesy C-band commercial feely fake music for a game... I honestly had trouble making myself listen through whole songs, but forced myself to do it to gain my Pinocchio's "humanity". But maybe it's because I'm a french speaker and music snob. Even with that being said, the game is 100% masterpiece, I just finished it a couple hours ago and I loved it !

[@DBLRxyz]

@@LutinpofinCare to share something in the same vein that you consider good?

[@TooToo246]

​​@@Lutinpofinbare in mind that the music in Lies Of P was probably made by a small, no-name band in Korea that wasn't expensive!.....You know when you watch an anime that takes place in a retro-futuristic setting, and the characters act all noir and mysterious? You wouldn't say: oh that's fake pretentious noir acting! Of course not! You'd accept it as an anime thing. Corny but cool. It's how Japanese people see western tropes and render them in their own funky way! We accept that and find it charming and even so cool, like in Cowboy Bebop!....The same logic applies to the music in Lies Of P!

[@dri748]

A French speaker and music snob 😂😂😂 how very pretentious 😂. ​@@Lutinpofin

[@dirtiestharry6551]

Story is easy to follow, yet you don't get the whole picture unless you read lore materials within the game in the form of news articles, books, letters, and talking to npc etc. For example: you fight a semi conscious carcass in the cave. For some players, it would just have been weird mini boss that spoke right before it died. But if you been reading up on lore, you can understand he was Medoro, dear friend of Alidor(real one), and the journalist who tried to tell the truth about the alchemists.

[@GrownManPat]

WHAT?! o.o!! I gotta read more😅

[@IzzyG3]

One thing I loved about this game is I never felt the need to grind, I explored every nook and cranny and I never felt I was underleveled, and it was still difficult

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

The game is incredibly linear, which is why you never had to grind. It’s not as open as a from software game.

[@kalecraft8906]

​@@BasketCase-rr7txbeing open or linear has nothing to do with grind. You don't need to grind in any Souls game. You can beat them at level 1

[@zeroskaterz92]

@@BasketCase-rr7tx You clearly don't play FromSoftware games then because a lot of them are linear. Only Elden Ring was non-linear for the most part.

[@imcel8953]

​​@@zeroskaterz92in Dark Souls games you don't have to follow the same path if you don't want to. You can choose which places you want to go. As you say none of them are open world like Elden Ring but instead of the set recommended path, you can go to a different area first. Go straight to blighttown if you'd like. Or maybe darkroot garden. Or the catacombs if you're crazy (or really good at the game). Lies of P puts you on a set path. Doesn't bother me but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave more options in a sequel.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@@zeroskaterz92 Ive played them all. none of them are linear. In demons soluls you can literally go to whatever world you want from pretty much the start, in Dark Souls you can go down to a high level area at the begining of the game. Think before you speak please.

[@space-slime]

This game was absolutely amazing for me... I like, feel disappointed, that it wasn't worldwide news how amazing this game is and that Round8 pulled off the impossible.

[@scarthoroverlord4521]

agreed

[@hectorarias5946]

My personal game of the Year 2023. I did have 0 issues with framerate, no glitches, no sudden frozen screens, flawless and continuous gameplay. Many games these days feel to me "unfinished" and then get patched and patched... after leeching money from customer. The music, the controls, the scenarios, level designs, weapons, endings, replayability, spooky, dark and lovely at the same time. Enemy variety, and so on... Minor complaints and I had a blast at the end. Bought it for PS5, Xbox Series X and PC, same as Elden Ring. My hype was fulfilled with this game for me. ❤

[@fran529]

After I finish the game I did something I rarely do, I started another run. That game was a blast, the combination of aesthetics, level design, boss fights, weapons and my god, the music. Fantastic game.

[@ryandavid1277]

I have never done a platinum, I may for this

[@BigB70]

Likewise, this and ArmoredCore6 got me to jump right back in after the credits rolled

[@darknesswave100]

​@ryandavid1277 same. I'm not a platinum trophy type of player but I may do it for this one

[@johndodo2062]

The game expands through ng3. New skills, trophies and everything

[@fran529]

I thought I left these kind of games behind but Max playing the demo got me interested@@BigB70

[@weusedtobeangels]

it's a real shame that people might not even consider this as a GOTY nominee just because of the fact that it's a "clone". it's a really good game that stands up on its own and deserves all the good reviews it's getting. it's a GOTY contender for me. yes, it's that good

[@None38389]

It's good, but it's not BG3 good in my opinion, it's certainly nomination-worthy though.

[@axelstone3131]

I wouldn’t say it’s clone. It’s its own thing it’s just following the same structure as games of this genre.

[@p-o2938]

BG3 settled it for 2023. Amazing games this year still !

[@jacopocorradi7128]

It's a great game,that for sure, but for this year a goty nomination for lies of P is a bit too much. We had cocoon,re4 remake,Zelda,BG3,street fighter 6...these games deserve a place in the run more than lies of P for me And i'm not considering many other games as Sea of stars, hi fi rush, atomic heart...there've been many good games in 2023, but if i have to choose 5 or 6 names i select the first mentioned

[@secondwolfjiro7204]

Not even close to GOTY lol

[@MHSenju3000]

This is my personal GOTY. Completed the game 3 times with 77 hr and LV 305 for context. This was such a satisfying game from start to finish. I can't wait to see what's next for the DLC and this fantastic fantasy universe they are creating.

[@TommasoFirmini]

Finished my first run at somewhere around level 90. Now im on laxasia on ng+ and I've got over 100 more levels put in just clearing normally without farming. It's wild how much ergo and ergo items you get

[@johndodo2062]

​@@TommasoFirminiand the new skill trees for ng1-3

[@MHSenju3000]

@@johndodo2062 LV 7 P Organ unlock is God tier. The Real Boy ending was so sad to see. This game was able to have me so invested. You just don't get that too often with games anymore

[@TommasoFirmini]

@johndodo2062 oh nice. I knew ng+ unlocked phase 6 but it's cool to know there's more for every ng+

[@dhopjr57]

Me Too !

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

The large amount of throwable items is an interesting point, it has always been one of Fromsoft's lacking aspects, items are so limited or grind intensive people just don't want to use them. Or even if they are unlimited, it requires you to grind spirit emblems like Sekiro.

[@johndodo2062]

They aren't unlimited. You can only carry 3 of each to start and you have to spend upgrades to carry more

[@alpha00zero]

The best part of throwables is that the Puppet has one HELL of a throwing arm. There is no range limit to them. You can hit Laxasia when she flies up to fire her lightning bolts from the other side of the bridge at the start of phase 2. The devs basically made it so that most of everything you find is absolutely viable. You could make a weaponless run if you wanted to, it would be totally possible with the Legion arm + items.

[@arreca09]

this is not true at all, I finished Elden Ring with literally +1,000 throwable items I could've used

[@Saixga]

The weird outlier in Lies of P is the Chain consumable. It's one of the weakest consumables since it's melee and doesn't inflict any status ailment, but it can't be bought, there's only 7 lootable in the game as far as I know, and the only other way to get it is to farm enemies for it. It's a shame that it's so limited since it's really fun to use imo. I almost wanted to do a chain only run, but it seems the only way to do that is with cheat engine lol

[@KlockoArt]

The issue isn't the lack of throwable consumables in fromsoft's titles, it's that the majority of the time said consumables fall off a steep cliff and arent worth using past the early game, if they're useful at all. Lies of P is different because the throwable consumables end up being significantly powerful and can do an incredible amount of damage to enemies. Some even have amazing utility ontop of their great damage that bump up their usefulness, such as the shotput automatically breaking an enemy's posture when their health is flashing white.

[@darknesswave100]

Im honestly not really a souls type of person but the concept of this game was intriguing so i gave it a shot. The difficulty was definitely hard to get used to but its an absolute blast once you do. Now i see why people like this type of game

[@ironborn4389]

That was Sekiro for me. I played DS1 and couldn't gel with it so left it for years but something about Sekiro's style made me engage and persevere until I realised the joys of the formula and approach. Its now my favourite game of the Fromsoft Series and I went back and completed them all with a new found love and respect. Give them another shot my friend...you may just have just found your entry point... This style of game creates an itch that will need scratching every now and then... ;)

[@darknesswave100]

​@ironborn4389 I've been wanting to try Sekiro ever since I beat this game. I think youre right. Nows the time to get it and see why people love that game so much. I've heard nothing but good things about it

[@NemesisS.T.A.R.S]

​@@darknesswave100I hope you went through with this. Sekiro is amazing

[@gamerkingdom1442]

This dev team NAILED IT!! It really works so good! I’ve only seen videos, but I’ve enjoyed it! And it’s in my plans to buy it soon. It’s worth it.

[@MagumoKawasaki]

It is on Game pass if you happen to have a PC or xbox.

[@Darketernal77]

I think the small thing I liked storywise that I want to mention is that when you do your second playthrough, you can understand what the bosses are saying to you due to the decoder which makes you understand the story better.

[@kingjunior525]

My game of the year so far. That demo entranced me, and the game delivered on everything. I love this game.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

Have you played Lords of the Fallen yet?, because I think that game is up there with this too (and I think it might actually have more fun boss fights).

[@hua..]

@@BasketCase-rr7tx LotF is alright, but it's nowhere near as good as lies of p

[@johndodo2062]

​@@hua..not even close. Especially on console. Lotf looks blurry and runs like ass

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@@johndodo2062 So you havent played it?

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@@hua.. Play it before you say that. The game is amazing.

[@alohenry9598]

More reviews like this please, you have an awesome point of view

[@dannyton8478]

yes he is, he's know how good the game is .

[@Jaebird2]

Need more games like this to get reviews like this 😂

[@Bluuedream]

Lies of P is a masterpiece, a lot of amazing games came out this year, but Lies of P is my GotY.

[@ShenZxro]

It’s very rare to see a soulslike come around and be so good that you can directly compare it to fromsoft and it’ll still come out swinging hard and LoP did that. I’m so glad this game surpassed expectations and was just incredible. I’m so excited for their next project (which if you beat the game, I can’t WAIT to see how they imagine wizard of Oz)

[@foulXD]

Its an amazing game, indeed. BUT bloodborne is still far above it, obviously. And when the PC version come out (big fat copium here) it will be unreachable, basically in the realm of elden ring. Bloodbornes artstyle, music, story, bosses, weapons, characters and areas are some of the best and some of them are THE best areas to the day. Pure atmosphere.

[@ShenZxro]

@@foulXD I mean duh, of course bloodborne is still better. Max even says this game wouldn’t exist without BB, nobody’s really tryna say it’s undisputedly better. He mighta said it in this vid but that’s personal taste at the end of the day

[@deshawnnelson742]

It's personal taste on what game is better I dislike that everyone acts like BB is untouchable though

[@RenoKyrie]

​​@@ShenZxroI mean compared to Code Vein Yeah Lies of P is AMAZING compared to that trash which killed off God Eater Nioh 2 is also a amazing game that differentiate itself but it became much closer to a DMClike than a Souls with how ridicilously fast the gameplay is

[@foulXD]

​@@deshawnnelson742i dont ACT like its untouchable, i BELIEVE its untouchable. Not one souls like came even CLOSE to being as atmospheric, and amazing as bloodborne.

[@DeadEye364]

This is one of my favorite games of the year and may very well be my GoTY. Not only is it insanely polished, it actually stands on its own legs as a souls game. It excels at crafting its atmosphere and overall feel, and has a level of spectacle that I wish Fromsoft would do with their games. Though my favorite thing about this game is all the little details and effects, attacks leaving marks on the ground, the hair movement, the lighting, sound design, and effects. Its these kind of little things that truly immerse me in games and is the direction I wish games went instead of graphical fidelity.

[@ShinPepsiman]

I love how he punches down the boss doors and slowly walks into the battle. Its so cool lol

[@DeadEye364]

@@ShinPepsiman Yeah, though that final punch was something special.

[@Skyshadow733]

My hype for this game was huge ever since the first trailer. It delivered on those expecations for me. I loved this game so much. Lets hope they can come out with more like this and build a legacy as fromsoftware did

[@rdmgurgs]

Let's put some respect on Lies of P. It is NOT a copy-paste of Bloodbourne, and im glad people are recognizing that. It literally reminds me of Dante's inferno. It was a game that took the formula of a previous game and ran with it. I love it.

[@888YouCantHandle]

Right it's a broke piss poor wannabe Bloodborne that's as good as its mid metacritic rating.

[@888YouCantHandle]

Dantes Inferno is trash

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

@@888YouCantHandle now this is some amateur hour trolling. have some dignity -_-

[@Chachibenji]

@@888YouCantHandle I used to be bad at parry timing too, but then I got better.

[@ganymede4030]

Since when is an 80 overall 'mid'? Many individual reviews gave it 90-100 as well. @@888YouCantHandle

[@davismorgan99]

It should also be said that new game plus is amazing for lies of p. Running through the whole game with some of the later boss weapons is so fun.

[@johndodo2062]

And the new skill trees for extra plays is also better than what from offers. They just change numbers. This game changes how you play totally if you want

[@naturalfitness-1]

Im on my 5th playthrough. Everytime i find a cool weapon it makes me want to play the game again. I have never felt that way with any souls game and i have beaten all of them

[@manbat4582]

Nioh?

[@naturalfitness-1]

@manbat4582 only a psychopath would replay Nioh 😂

[@nyrva2876]

Well, you can master all weapons on a single character, it's no use starting over.

[@manbat4582]

@@naturalfitness-1 why though 😂

[@17Apocalypse17]

Boi u gets no p$$y u said 5th playthrough 😅😂😂

[@pac0113]

I have a feeling the love for this game will only continue to grow as time passes, and it will be fondly remembered as a classic. It is undoubtably the best souls-like released. Round 8 is truly a special studio, can’t wait to see what’s next from them.

[@leopereyra69]

I just finished this game today and what a ride it was... I've tried other souls-like games but this is the only one that fulfilled that "void" that any other game like this couldn't fill, there's something that i can't explain but it's been a fantastic game from start to finish The fact that this is their first time trying to make this kind of game and they made such amazing experience (there are some flaws but i know that they are going to use this experience to make the DLC or sequel even better) This is my personal GOTY and can't wait to see more but for now im gonna start NG+ and try to get the 100%

[@dillonharnden-shea57]

It helps that the flaws don't really get in the way of having a great experience though

[@bardockshiny]

I guess it's the setting, fromsoftware games are fucking bleak, depressing, the world wants to eat you. Here it's nice, the Hotel Krat is without a doubt the best fucking nexus I've ever seen in any game, it feels like home, you can play music, you can try movesets, you can get to know the characters, you get some heart breaking cutscenes, you get connection to the other areas, it's a fucking blast

[@HelloJTello]

This game for me is just purely amazing in its own way. Completely separate from other soulslike games, it's a fun time overall with unique looking NPCs and bosses/enemy's. The world detail and story is very captivating for the user to enjoy and this is not even talking about the weapon building/customization offered for a single playthrough alone! For me this game nails down so many missing things I wanted with FromSoft games and just capitalizes on those areas with great results. I truly feel like they just paved the doorway for a triple-AAA franchise here with how good the reception is with this single game alone. I don't even care if it wins GOTY because it already won A LOT of people over in general. This game truly made a statement, came outta nowhere, and didn't leave no crumbs! I give my experience with this game 10/10 so far! Purely based on how I did not expect this game to be so good with what it offered. For me it's a breath of fresh air :)

[@ChestnutandBea]

i honestly loved this game so much. Playing through a second time now as I keep wanting to play it. Fantastic game

[@KoreanSpy1997]

I've probably said this many time but freak it, this is my certified game of the year, and should be nominated for goty category on this year's TGA, and it's their first AA game. Good freaking job Neowiz, you did it.

[@bardockshiny]

Game journalists can't stand difficult games lol, they prefer the chewed up for babies experience that is spider-man 2 gameplay and story wise, what a fucking joke is that game being nominated for goty when it basically added nothing compared to the first game, the story is worse and characters feel stupid, Miles is just there, like the story would work without him, they didn't bore to give him some story arc even, could have done that instead of making mary jane the fucking black widow from queens

[@AstaIsAMonster]

40 hours later I finally beat the game and for me this game is GOTY 2023 and the soundtracks are amazing. By the end I was able to get 37/43 trophies in this game. So starting NG+ tomorrow to get the last few and going to be using new weapons/build should be fun.

[@matchanavi]

Sorry to tell you but you need to do at least NG+2 for all achievements because of the endings. Just make sure you get all the other achievements by then.

[@alpha00zero]

Another small head up: look up the Eugenie story properly. For some reason the game didn't give me the achievement on Steam despite having done both routes of her story to get both records (The "Far Eastern Princess" and "Wolf Part 1"). Could be a Steam bug or finicky detection from the game.

[@AstaIsAMonster]

@@alpha00zero ​​⁠ for her you have to play the game twice to get both records that are different. But I got her trophy achievements in my 1st playthrough by telling her the truth and getting that guy with the glasses across from her to decipher that puzzle you get from the hound (after killing him) who was lying about who he was. So read through the puzzle documents after that guy with the glasses unlocks it then go talk with Eugenie and tell her the truth getting me the achievement for her storyline.

[@TimothyGod]

​@@AstaIsAMonsterand also, you have to decipher the thing first then talk to her, otherwise itovks out the dialogue

[@AstaIsAMonster]

@@TimothyGod that’s what I said

[@Bloodborne-Hunter]

Just finished getting 100% in this game and I’m on my 4th playthrough rn, this has to be my fav soulslike game EVER. If someone told me fromsoft made this game I would 100% believe it.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

It doesn’t really have the NPC quests, interconnected world or balanced boss fights of a From Software souls game. In fact the boss fights in this game are clearly designed around having a spectre with you, which makes it frustrating when you’re like me and don’t want to use them.

[@NieR042]

@@BasketCase-rr7tx When you go around like this just to complain, it makes it pretty obvious you're ragebaiting.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@@NieR042 what? I’m just pointing out that the game has flaws. Just because I’m not raping it’s ass like everyone else doesn’t mean I didn’t like it, calm down.

[@homeslicebread8443]

@@BasketCase-rr7txwho are you and who asked

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@@homeslicebread8443 Who are you and who asked you?

[@randomnobody9229]

Could not agree more, fell in love with this. I downloaded it because it was free on gamepass, so glad I gave it a chance

[@dannyton8478]

This game deserved 120$ 👌

[@johndodo2062]

​@@dannyton8478i hope Microsoft paid them allot of money because they will make at least 120 million just from ps5 sales

[@TimothyGod]

​@@dannyton8478well let's not get crazy now, let's keep games a reasonable price please. My wallet begs you

[@jackjones3973]

I did too for my Series S, but I'm also planning to get the physical complete edition (if Round8 actually make DLCs for it and will release 'em as such in the future) for my PS5.

[@randomnobody9229]

@@dannyton8478 I'm bought an actual copy since I want this game forever, not just while it's on gamepass

[@markcampbell8590]

I absolutely adore this game. Probably my sleeper hit of the year and I was very impressed a studio managed to capture the Fromsoftware detail as well as add their own spin towards the genre.

[@kevsgamingworld7718]

I platinum this game Max, so I understand your opinion. This game is truly wonderful

[@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777]

I like how the post-credits scene recontextualizes Lies of "P" from "Lies of Pinocchio" into: "LIES OF PUBLIC-DOMAIN"

[@TLBreezy]

I cannot wait to see the dood replay with different builds/finding all the missed stuff

[@bluesunrise2323]

I love this game its too good from the weighty combat to the spooky atmosphere and the rich story telling even the music is realllly good its such a great horror action fantasy game

[@cherrydragon3120]

I love the atmosphere. That first time you get into Krat, all the rain and thunder in this now ruined city. Amazing!!

[@Amocoru]

For a first foray into Soulslike this is incredible. Can't wait for more from them.

[@zachparrott6231]

I didn’t even hear about this game until a week ago. Usually I do an annual bloodborne run this time of year, but decided to go with Lies of P. Incredible game! Like truly remarkable. I’m absolutely hooked. Love the gameplay, soundtracks, characters, everything. Absolute 10/10

[@XJ43088]

While I've only played the Demo of this game personally and watched Max's whole playthrough, I can say that this is my favorite Souls or Bloodbourne inspired game. I love the entire aesthetic of the game *(I especially love the town of Krat, but I also love the whole deal with evil puppets and how they look),* the dark twist on the iconic story of Pinocchio, everything. I'm so glad that Max was able to put this game in its earned spotlight. I just wish people would actually give this game a chance instead of calling it a ripoff, and I can only hope that it gets nominated for *something* for the Game Awards. Calling this game a Souls game is very respectful. I'm actually really excited for what the dev team is cooking up now. Wizard of Oz meets Dark Souls/Bloodbourne, huh...? Sounds interesting! In fact, I'd love to see more iconic pop culture fictional fantasy characters in a Souls/Bloodbourne type of game! I love Max's idea of an Alice in Wonderland game, but I also think Peter Pan would be cool. Anyways, awesome review, Max! So glad you gave this game a chance!

[@cherrydragon3120]

Its quite a Honor to have your game basicly be compared with the games that MADE the genre as big as it is today. And have people say, if you slapped from software on the game we wud believe it. But its not from fromsoftware. Amd thats what makes it REALLY impressive

[@Mene0]

Glowing review from Max. This year is stacked, Hifi-rush, SF6, Zelda, FFXVI...

[@NanoUchia]

I'd totally watch Max do another run/new game+. It was enthralling to watch him play this game.

[@johndodo2062]

Ya his play through was the best i saw

[@johndodo2062]

This game really is just as good as from games. I've finished them all. Max isn't wrong here

[@kaiderhai86]

It is. And as hard as Sekiro. At least for me.

[@GoldenMushroom64]

@@kaiderhai86as hard as Sekiro? I found Sekiro so hard it was freaking unplayable. If this is on that level then hard pass from me.

[@vladcuervo1208]

​​@@GoldenMushroom64nahhh man this was my first souls like game and i just finished it today, it took me 79 hours, but i did, i beat it, and i enjoyed every second of it, you should try

[@johndodo2062]

​@@GoldenMushroom64it's really not that bad of you use everything. Throwables are broken and the puppet string is op

[@bardockshiny]

@@GoldenMushroom64 sekiro has a bigger learning curve for sure but turns way easier when you get it, Lies of P feels like having a learning curve for every boss

[@sikevillain]

Of all the Soulslike games I've played.. Lies of P is the best souls like game to me.. everything is done so well. The bosses, areas, enemies, combat, music, & graphics coalesce into something that's just absolutely brilliant.

[@cherrydragon3120]

And its not even chugging hard on your computer too. Okay sure i run an absolute monster of a gaming laptop but it barely gets actualy warm or barely makes noise. Meanwhile with bloodborne, my ps4 was at times hating me for playing 😂😂

[@SaberX009]

I WAS SOOOOOOOOOO WAITING ON THIS !!!!!

[@beebop7039]

I just beat it last night and absolutely loved every moment of it. The demo had me kinda meh, but I'm so glad I stuck with the full release.

[@morepower6800]

A damn beautiful game indeed

[@NerdyDrifter85]

Been playing Bloodborne for the first time after beating Lies of P since some consider it a spiritual successor to Bloodborne. To me, Lies of P is all the ingredients of Bloodborne distilled down to their best aspects. My favorite parts or Lies of P is the Legion Arms and Weapon Assembly. Their is SO much variety when it comes to combat. The parry windows/frames are tougher than Bloodborne, but it’s super satisfying to eventually get multiple perfect parries on a boss, break their poise, then get a visceral. Every hit feels great in Lies or P.

[@TheUbberman]

Love to see Max share my own thoughts on it. What an incredible game. Out of Souls games, I played... This ones easily at the top. Dare I say, it's probably the best entry Souls game out there. Everything about it is spectacular.

[@MouseKeyboardPlayer]

For me RE4R is my GOTY and still the game I had the most fun with this year, but Lies of P is a def nr2, 60 hours and 4 playthroughs, Lies of P is amazing.

[@bardockshiny]

The thing with this year games wasn't just being good, they were fucking fun, from Dead Space remake, to re4r, to armored core 6 to Lies of P. It wasn't just beautiful games with super envolving stories and super realistic graphics and settings, the game were fucking fun, like developers are giving more importance to mechanics again

[@IggysEden]

I like it better than 80% of actual From Soft games and I’m not ashamed to admit that

[@randomnobody9229]

Same, just fell in love with it

[@johndodo2062]

Because it's better than most. Every king falls eventually. From is not impervious

[@thatepicwizardguy]

@@johndodo2062 he said 80%. the last few fromsoft games crush lies of P. it's an excellent first stab but it's not even close to some of them. its maybe an 8.

[@andrewramirez3998]

@@thatepicwizardguybloodborne is also an 8/10

[@iKendles]

Man, and to think I was more excited for lords of the fallen, (since I never heard of lies of P before the release) man what a turn of events, I need to get home NOW and play this masterpiece

[@HanMasho]

Okay, you sold me. I literally just bought it after seeing the title of this video.

[@GatekeepertoSorrow]

From such a small dev team this is a monumentally impressive showing. Easily the most confident and competent soulslikes we've ever seen, down to tone and level design and numerous little details. I am so incredibly excited for what this team has next.

[@longphan7656]

finally some positive takes. im so tired of all the fromsoft fanboys and veteran who gaslight themselves into despising this game. "oh these devs are only trying to captivate the Soullike market" "Fromosft should be the only one who can do Soul games" worst is "From Soft should focus on making Soul/soul-like games" like the amount of negative comment i read when AC6 and this game come out is blood boiling(not from non-Fromsoft fans, but Fromsoft fanboys themselves)

[@TheRealJonster]

This is going to end as my GOTY. I finished my NG playthrough a couple of days ago, and now I can't wait for the DLC or sequel, lmao. Granted, I didn't play Baldur's Gate 3, but I haven't felt like it so far, as it's a big time commitment. This is the next best thing to Bloodborne, but it innovates in new ways so it is definitely its own game

[@DAngelProductions]

I’m on NG++ and I just love this game. I cannot wait for what’s next from the developers! I need the soundtrack asap too

[@TheUltimateRey]

I am shocked how passionate you sound in this review but I actually feel the same way about this game.. didn’t expect much out of it and now I love it lol

[@theAshesofDecember1]

On my second play through now. It’s just as enjoyable the second time, and I usually don’t really replay these kinds of games. It’s a really good game and I haven’t put it down. There are levels that remind me of the bio shock aesthetic, but beyond that it even has areas that feels like the original RE4. Add the sekiro and bloodbourne like combat on top and it has everything needed to just stay with me for a long time

[@CallMeLR]

I am so hype for the DLC

[@neonmidnightx5640]

I loved playing this game, way better than I expected. Loved the combat, and enjoyed every area in the game. My only gripe with it is majority of bosses have 2 phases. I feel it casuses most bosses to ruin the element of surprise because you expect every boss has one.

[@johndodo2062]

Less than half have 2 phases and 3 of them have 2 but with only one health bar

[@TimothyGod]

Having a second phase is exactly what I've been begging for. How many times in from soft games there's a second phase that doesn't have a full health bar, so I generally clean up the second phase pretty easy. This was perfect for me, each time i knew I was in for a long fight. And i never felt cheated or bs, minus the door guardian. I straight forgot he existed til max said his name

[@mantic5423]

There is one detail about this game that most other souls like fail to do that I love. A lot of the time in souls game at certain points of the game you can look into the distance and you can see world, and it makes you go "wow I was there a few hours ago and there's the area i was at before". I noticed this in Lie of P when I was about the to enter the church, and I saw the factory and the town city below. It such a small detail but it adds so much life to the world imo. I don't know if there is other sections like this cause I'm pretty sure i'm only mid way through the game so I guess I'll see

[@pacolago2229]

Trust me, you'll get more of that ;]

[@Xzeihoranth]

Can't believe they got it this right.

[@batoubatou9475]

I really hope Max is gonna do a lore run on stream 🎉🎉

[@jeremyroberts8822]

This is one of those games that makes us take note of the developer cus it’s that good. I’ll now be looking out for anything that comes from them in the future

[@Shinsaeki]

I think what a lot of people forget is that Lies of P is Round8 Studio’s second game. It’s only their second game, yet they were able to capture the Souls formula excellently. They took the best mechanics from multiple FromSoft games and blended them amazingly. All while adding other new gameplay or QOTL features (weapon assembly, quest indicators) Obviously it’s not perfect. Level design could be better, for example. But for a second game? This is insanely impressive. Definitely looking forward to the DLC and their storybook fantasy universe.

[@SeanMair-k4t]

Haven’t beat the game yet but so far i am really enjoying the ride and I normally suck at games that’s like bloodborne and dark souls but Lies of P is amazing, simply loving this game. Love the weapon variety and just the overall story.

[@ILT991]

Just finished the game about 20 minutes ago. I agree with so much of what you said. I told my friend day 1 of playing that it’s comparable to a fromsoftware game, and that stuck throughout the whole game. It’s genuinely that good. No souls-like has been this enjoyable for me. They really nailed the key thing that I think I love most about bloodborne and the souls games, and that’s the atmosphere and environments. Truly a wonderful game and I can’t wait to see what else this team puts out

[@johndodo2062]

It beat bloodborne and gow 2018 for me.

[@greyfuller1025]

This is probably the best game I played this year and the first game I ever platinum'd.

[@sixgunrecords6486]

Dude I love how much you love this game. I feel and have felt the same way. It just hit on every level. Maybe it’s our age group and where we come from. But dare I say I liked it more than most souls games. I wish I could erase my mind and play it again

[@moezumaki]

I fell in love with the game halfway through. I have a total of 4 playthroughs (I got that 100% achievements) and now on my 5th. I can't help but be drawm back to the game, story and unfolding events.

[@johndodo2062]

Same. Halfway through ng1 and it's pretty obvious I'm going for max level at this point. I got to 225 in bloodborne and had enough. The combat here is so much better and an actual story that makes sense is nice too

[@Gamer-jj9op]

I love lies of p so much I played it on xbox gamepass decide to buy a physical copy to support the developers.

[@ryanruzicka6944]

Just about to beat it for the third time and having a lot of fun trying new things out

[@MrMetalforever5]

Just finished this today. Didn’t think it would match the praise. It did. My favorite part of FromSoft’s games are more so the journeys and characters, with the exploration and combat coming second. This game REALLY nails what I love about FromSoft’s games so much.

[@loweegee7876]

I think it deserves a GotY nomination a lot more than Starfield

[@outer7567]

One thing id like to add is how surprised i was when I was in ng+ and i saw ANOTHER P-Organ upgrade tier. I then ng+ again and there was ANOTHER??? Amazing stuff.

[@thenonexistinghero]

NG++ adds a 7th level. Though if you want to max everything out, you'll need to go to NG+++ since there aren't enough crystals. You also can't get all of the skills, there will be some that you just can't pick even with a fully filled out P-organ. Though even before you fully fill out the P-organ you'll probably run out of skills to pick since trash-tier ones are the only ones left by then.

[@jaydeebow6431]

Just amazing polish and after LOTF had such a rough launch made me appreciate this game much more, it is my GOTY so far and nothing on the calendar can change that, at least for me.

[@eojhenx]

I uninstalled this yesterday after getting 100% achievement. And reinstall it couple of hours later. This game sticks to me like a glue.

[@monty083083]

When I first started this game I game it a 7 because I tried to play it like sekiro (which you can with experience), but once you realize that it’s all of froms previous works in a tight package, it becomes a 9. I absolutely love this game and I hope we get some DLC.

[@TheAtomicChinchilla]

I have such mixed feelings about this game. On Chapter 9 and I'm in love with the aesthetics, the atmosphere, the overall presentation. But the combat is by far the worst part of it for me. It's like the devs said "let's take the fun aspects of combat from Bloodborne (mobility, weapon variety, parries) and Sekiro (rhythmic deflection, satisfying perfect guard and stagger system) but remove everything that makes them fair to the player." Dodging absolutely sucks, even with the "upgraded" double dodge, since enemies will auto-aim straight to you and almost always hit you with a second attack immediately after you dodge the first. I can't count the number of times I got stunlocked to death, being unable to dodge or block anything after getting hit once (the Stalker minibosses are infuriating for this). And the game wants to force you to use perfect guard, but every enemy has an absurd amount of move combos to make learning their attack timings more frustrating. And unlike Sekiro, it still punishes you for perfect guarding, since it still drains your stamina, so you can easily lose all your stamina while blocking and then have nothing left to counterattack or dodge after, meaning you just get hit again. The plentiful strong throwing items and Specter summons are the only reason I've been able to beat 3/4 of the game.

[@AnjektusStudio]

Well it seems that you suck on the combat! So learn how to play before you making a comment

[@bartagame_3070]

I would ad another Frustrating part are the Red Attacks i understand why they exist and sound good on paper but they are a bit poorly executed. Bc alot of them have they same problem ER has they are heavely dealyed and have a snap like movement where instead that you naturally react to it you need to memorize it by getting hit (i lost one time bc of that, bc one time where i was nearly done with a boss, then said boss pulled out a red attack that i haven seen before and obviously didnt now the Timing and died) plus you get almost no (at least visual) reward for sucessfully parring them there are some intances were the boss gets stagert but there were only two instances were it it was the case at least from what i remember.

[@Hailtothegun]

A couple of points about Max's review that, for me, I felt the same way about at first and then upon consecutive playthroughs, I actually realized they weren't quite so positive: - Secrets and choices: There may appear to be a ton of secrets in the game and lots of dialogue choice options to branch the narrative, but in reality the game is actually incredibly linear, there's not a lot lot of stuff to miss out on, and any opportunity you have to make a dialogue choice is ultimately futile because there is no benefit to telling the truth. There is only ONE quest where being truthful actually earns a different reward - for everything else, the only difference is a slight difference in response. - Weapon variety: This looked absolutely insane at first until you realize that Blades and handles individually have preferred Damage Types (Slash/Stab). So while mixing a Slashing Blade with a Handle that has a Stabbing moveset is certainly possible, it's not the most viable and will only make the weapon do less damage. They should have completely done away with damage types. I agree with mostly everything else he says. I don't agree that ALL of the bosses were fun but that's not to say his opinion is wrong, I just found some of them incredibly tedious and they utilized two-phase/two-health bosses far too much. Other than that the game is a solid 8/10 for me and I look forward to what they do next.

[@thequadglaser1983]

I posted on my Instagram that this is my favorite game of the year. I love it so much, I finished my 3rd playthrough last night.

[@kol028]

This is my GOTY. Best soulslike out there.

[@RealmKast]

Very happy to see such a great reception to what was my most anticipated game of this year - and that's saying something considering the line-up of games we've had! This game absolutely blew me away and I think that despite the inevitable (and totally fair) Bloodborne, Sekiro, & Dark Souls comparisons, it really did something unique here. Absolutely breathtaking atmosphere, setting, art style, combat, music, and much, much more with this game which has immediately become one of my favourites! It should 100% be a GOTY nominee in my opinion alongside Baldur's Gate 3 and Armored Core 6.

[@rieJW]

I genuinely hope they do an Alice in Wonderland inspired game with a warped and dark macabre setting, I have full confidence these devs can pull it off after this game And if they manage to rope in fantastic writers to complement the gameplay and build a world with greater astounding depth, then we have a masterpiece in the making

[@C_O_N_C_E_P_T]

Currently finishing up my no heal in major boss fights first playthrough and it’s been amazing. Some of the most flowy boss fights ever. Very surprised also about how it turned out. It’s gone way past my expectations. Glad you enjoyed it and give it such a good review it deserves it.

[@caj5888]

Thanks for the review Max. I'm now going to buy it.

[@Lightsaglowllc]

This game is shockingly good. The combat “feel” is perfect.

[@artemas7076]

The minute I seen the games trailer I knew it was going to be special. Played the demo on gamepass and completely fell in love with it and then immediately preordered on steam. It's my next game to go through on my list and can't wait to complete my playthrough.

[@bardockshiny]

You can feel 99% of the time if a souls like is going to be good by looking at the animations and this game fucking nailed them to the fucking wall, it helps to have one of the best art design I've seen since bioshock infinite when approaching that steampunk victorian, early industrial revolution era

[@artemas7076]

@@bardockshiny Agreed- Game is truly special.

[@LeanXTriforcer]

This game has been on my radar for years and it did not disappoint. Loved every minute of playing it and I genuinely want to do another play through to get what I missed.

[@teero121]

"not a souls-like, its just a souls game" very clean and concise

[@NoonDragoon]

I knew this game was something special after listening to the first Record you get in the game, “Feel”. This game honestly took me by complete surprise but immediately shot up in my personal GOTY ranking.

[@AstaIsAMonster]

Hopefully you stream NG+ Max 🙏🏽 Also Lie’s Of P is a masterpiece and is my GOTY!

[@bunklypeppz]

I think this game is my choice for GOTY, which is saying something because I found Armored Core 6 to be amazing. I was expecting this game to be a brief detour from AC6 and that I would hop right back into AC6 after completing one playthrough, but here I am on my 4th playthrough fighting Laxasia and intentionally losing when she is nearly dead, just because I enjoy the fight so much I want to get more attempts in before cycling through another playthrough to get to her again. Honestly, I think I enjoy the bosses more, on average, than those in most Fromsoft games; don't get me wrong, DS3, Sekiro, Elden Ring etc have some truly incredible boss fights that are as good as anything, but they also have a good handful of boss fights that I consider janky, tedious and unfun. LoP only has one fight that I truly dislike after numerous playthroughs and that is the second Black Rabbit Brotherhood encounter (Simon Manus's second phase is pretty lousy too imo, but the first phase can be fun).

[@umamisoy]

The game nails it, and it's amazing that's the studio's first game!

[@galadriel1449]

Max played it as directors had intended. Perfectly. Legion Arm, Assembling Weapon, Stagger and so on. Very impressive

[@Smallerexia]

I just started playing it and im enyoing it so much. Never played a souls like before but im having a blast with this one. But its hard to really get into it with the other games im playing (Warhammer darktide, dead cells, halo infinite and starfield.)

[@Dookiefists]

long time souls player - this has been my game of the year, they really do get it and the whole experience was so well paced - even the story and the twists were incredibly well done

[@necropig]

Should've kept in the scene where max came across the Atoned mini fight mid review

[@dariodellacerra9810]

I hope you will replay it. The ng+ is truly difficult as the first playthrough, the game really keeps up with P'levels. And I agree, this is legit a From Software game

[@johndodo2062]

No, it's a neowiz game that is every bit as good as from soft games. It deserves more respect than that

[@Terronage]

@@johndodo2062 exactly. It's reductive. They accomplished a hell of a lot with this game. Give them their props.

[@m.a.dmatt6689]

I'm usually a 'beat it once and done' kind of guy with games. So I was honestly surprised that after I beat Lies of P...I wanted to play it again...and then again till I literally did 100%. And guess what...I still want to play more of it. The ascetic, the gameplay, the music, the theme. It is all just simple amazing and I can't get enough of it. I truly hope the DLC proves to be just as good and come soon.

[@EternalVII]

GOTY, period.