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[@GetDerezzed]

When a Marvel and a Capcom love each other very much...

[@itaycohen1264]

😂😂😂

[@dragons_hook]

He took her for a ride!

[@discmanthecdlord]

They take us for a ride

[@ToniikiClips]

They divorce and have a fight

[@daymonharris8696]

then Capcom cheated on Marvel with SNK.

[@SullySadface]

Capcom: We have decided to go with bone claws Marvel: You could do both. You should do both. Do both.

[@Rain1]

Lol

[@Dracobyte]

Hahahaha!

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I know a lot of people were not a fan of this but on the Dreamcast I loved gradually unlocking characters as the starting roster did not feel overwhelming and then i would gradually try more characters as they were unlocked

[@EWOODJ]

Unlocking characters is my favorite pastime in video games, especially fighting games.

[@2bitcollector707]

I thought it was awesome, that we were able to unlock fighters. Nowadays, you have to pay for them.

[@NeoZiggy92]

You know you're a 90's kid if unlocking characters was a highlight of your fighting game experience! Even better with my favorite method of doing so is beating Arcade Mode with a character related to the secret one. (Example: MegaMan would unlock Roll.) 😁

[@envygreen7051]

THIS!!! If it had an unlock mode i'd love it

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I enjoyed unlocking fighters too, but only if they have interesting unlock methods. If it’s just playing the game as normal then I don’t get much out of it, but it’s nice to overcome a challenge and get rewarded with a character.

[@ArchonKujo]

I can really see Max is really excited for the MvC Collection, And I'm really hyped too, it's been ages since we are able to play these games and we can't afford to get older copies of the same game in older systems that would cost too much money, And I know for sure that he wants to play with players that are new to the game as well to create a bigger fanbase for Marvel, Max, thank you for encouraging players to bring the # FreeMVC2.

[@cthulhu888]

Max streaming on launch day is literally going to be one of those "all my training has prepared me for this moment" moments 😄

[@Primus_Rodimuss]

I feel ya, I own the PS2 AND PS3 versions of MvC2 and this is by far the best yet. Rollback netcode, a VERY in depth training mode and the punisher. This and the new Mugen Dragonball Fighterz Patch will keep me in the kitchen cooking some sick ass combos

[@dealt]

​@@DragonHeart613I too prefer physical. But just once I'm double dipping for MvC. Preordered a physical & also downloading day 1. Waiting ~25 years to play some of these games again 👴

[@Swampert384]

I don’t think I ever had a chance to play it, so this’ll be fun for sure.

[@marcushamner5994]

I still have MvC 1 in my collection and I grew up playing the MvC franchise. I’m looking forward to playing the MvC Fighting Collection! Max is a champion for all of us.🤓😊👊🏾🙌🏾🤍🔥

[@glacierwolf2155]

The two Wolverines scenario really was the "Holy shit, two cakes!" meme of the time.

[@Dracobyte]

So good that it happen in a certain Marvel movie.

[@TheoZaHero]

@@Dracobyte In one movie, it was two. In another, it was a lot more than two.

[@DarkOverlord96]

Oh but if MVCI did that slot-wasting shit with an Avenger you wouldn't be saying that.

[@HJHawley7677]

@@DarkOverlord96character slots are not a finite resource lmao. It’s not like a second Wolverine took the same amount of development time and resources as a brand new character, that’s silly

[@Berzerk_Fury]

Both are 🚮 compared to X vs SF

[@TheLandofObscusion]

The Dreamcast controller support for the NAOMI arcade machine is really worth going into more detail. For those unfamiliar, MvC2 arcade machines literally had two DC controller ports on them (I don't know if any other NAOMI machines did this, though), and while that obviously allowed people to play the arcade machine on pad the real point of it was for the VMU. Essentially, if you had an MvC2 save on your VMU you could convert your play time on the arcade machine into points that you would then spend to unlock characters & new sprite colors. Obviously, you could also get points by playing at home, but I believe playing on the arcade machine gave you more points than playing at home. SNK obviously did it first with the Neo Geo memory card, but that was more for the sake of saving high scores & being able to continue your MVS playthrough on an AES console via the save data. Sega & Nintendo would later do something similar with F-Zero AX, where you could insert a GC memory card with F-Zero GX save data into an AX machine in order to unlock stuff faster, and it was even the only (official) way to unlock the AX tracks in GX.

[@EWOODJ]

You sure about that last part...?

[@bandit24k]

not naomi, but tekken 5 had playstation 2 controller ports for using your controllers on the cab. also, you can unlock ax tracks in gx by getting first on all base game tracks on master difficulty

[@Swampert384]

Which would suck if you lived too far away from any arcades or places with F-Zero AX

[@Exlayer-pk8hy]

And Fzero AX cabinets were extremely rare so most people never got to see bonus tracks officially

[@TheLandofObscusion]

@@bandit24k Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing that about unlocking the AX tracks without connecting to AX. However, to be fair, GX is such a brutally difficult game to start with (excellent, but difficult) that connecting to AX was essentially the only way most people would even be able to unlock them.

[@lordzedd21]

Capcom seemed like they peaked back in the day cause they was simply always in the future. Seeing mvc 1 again just reminded me capcom always been on another level.

[@Play-On7]

I will argue that from the release of Street Fighter 2 till the release of Resident Evil 5, Capcom was simply the best at making video games. They were a world class studio that helped push the industry forward. Here is hoping that they continue with their current renaissance for another 10 years.

[@wardy4903]

​@Play-On7 the future of capcom is remakes and looking back at better days.

[@Rain1]

​@@Play-On7 amen brother

[@TheCookieFranco]

I remember waking up at 5am in high school so my friend from a few houses down and I would could walk to a friend's house a few hours before school started so we could look up the latest Marvel vs. Capcom 2 information on a website before it was released.

[@dragons_hook]

You can really tell that MVC is Max's favorite thing! So glad its back!

[@Agent101g]

Really? I would have guessed Third Strike based on his videos.

[@odizm5196]

2000 :: let put 2 wolverines in the game 2024: we got wolverine and his Kids

[@Dracobyte]

Some of them also called Wolverine.

[@PapaBPoppin]

0:15 tell me you miss Late Night with Conan O’Brien without telling me you were a fan

[@kanasas2]

One of my favorite segments of Conan the episode with William shatner was hilarious

[@SlickRick4EVER]

@@kanasas2- Nah… Jim Carrey’s was way better…!

[@spoonimefan]

YASSS! Wanted to see if anyone else caught that in the comments before I said something, and y'all *did not* disappiont. 'Tis a Triumph, dawg! Also, Max going all Dad Mode in the stinger telling people to go to bed b/c he's ALREADY been reading a THREE HOUR "bedtime story"--😄 As a dad, I felt that.

[@tango9601]

"We thought people might find Cable's convoluted backstory fun" Cable was one of my mains in MVC2 as a kid and I had no idea what his backstory was! Outside of being some kind of X-Man and having a big gun the game doesn't tell you anything about him

[@aRBy125]

He was in the 90s cartoon here and there. They never out right said it in the cartoon, but they implied here and there that he was Scott & Jean's kid.

[@samuelsegovia7718]

​@@aRBy125Yeah in terms of the xmen animated series, his backstory wasnt explored until '97 lol

[@Arcademan09]

The Matrix was acting like the year 2000 was when humanity peaked and I agree

[@gokusondbz]

Dreamcast PS2 yep That Checks Out .

[@MaddiemanGames]

Morpheus: "We have only bits and pieces of information but what we know for certain is that at some point in the early twenty-first century all of mankind was united in celebration. We marveled at our own magnificence as we gave birth to MvC2" Neo: "MvC2? You mean Marvel vs Capcom?"

[@ChristianFrates1997]

@@gokusondbzDon’t forget Gladiator, Grinch, Charlie’s Angels, Little Nicky, Road Trip, Scary Movie, The Emperor’s New Groove and Unbreakable.

[@Shonenboiss]

I hope Tetsuya Shibata & Mitsuhiko Takano (the composers for MVC2) got a mega raise for popping off with MVC2’s soundtrack. That’s gotta be one of the most energetic and Jazzy fighting game osts I’ve ever listened to

[@swanky2202]

Crazy to think that Tetsuya Shibata was involved with both the jazzy MvC2 and the metal af soundtrack of DMC3.

[@Shonenboiss]

@@swanky2202 the dude is pretty versatile

[@christiandauz3742]

Maybe he should do some music for the sequel to Kirby's Forgotten Land Imagine Kirby and Meta Knight versus Galacta Knight and Morpho Knight

[@runningchief]

Imagine the looks you'd get, bringing your controller to the arcade

[@mrcwillis6970]

Can’t wait to play MvC and MvC2 for the first time. Been watching gameplay from people all around and have always wanted to try it out. After liking and checking out MvC3U and MvCI. So much fun. 💙❤️

[@just_2swift]

This was an amazing article. I love it. Feels like a time capsule.

[@boredmonkee]

It is part of my head cannon that wolverines claws can freely move if he is not flexing because of the Capcom games. They are not just straight mechanical knives that lock out. That idle sprite detail of his claws undulating back and forth really affected me.

[@aegisreflector1239]

That's definitely how Capcom animated his claw physics back in the day

[@TonyTheTGR]

I'm fairly confident it's just a way to make them more distinctive from one another.

[@Makilouses]

I’m glad they finally explained the concept of the game and how they made it

[@DualWieldingDad]

Marvel invented THC. Snoop Dogg owes them a lot.

[@TheLumaInChroma]

Shizzle Dizzle my Nizzle

[@darkmulawin]

Ah yes. Tetrahydrocannabinol, the hype mechanic.

[@CertifiedUltraEgo]

​@@TheLumaInChroma *Foshizzle

[@ChristianFrates1997]

Snoop a Loop!

[@Foggen]

The light-light press for light-medium auto-combo made me understand magic series combos for the first time. Up until then I always mapped my controller to have medium-heavy on the face buttons and I never really understood what I left on the table.

[@dunes8817]

I'm glad that I can finally play an arcade perfect (or close to it) version of MvC 2. I grew up with the PS2 version and wasn't aware back in the day that it was a lesser port because I had nothing to compare it to because arcade trips were infrequent and didn't always have a MvC 2 cabinet.

[@OneWingedDemonSlayer]

When you wish upon a star Makes no difference who you are Everything your heart desires Will come to you

[@Dracobyte]

And it will give you an OPTIC BLAST!

[@hwhatup4086]

Ya snapback was a very necessary inclusion. Imagine Dark Phoenix in MvC 3 with no snapback mechanic

[@Patmanx1]

I wonder if the move for 2 wolverines was because in the 90s there was that run of comics centered around a savage bone claw wolverine who was 200% berserk raged and insane.

[@Dracobyte]

Fatal Attractions?

[@spoonimefan]

That's what I'm thinking. For people familiar with the storyline, that version would make him feel like the (then-current) "Modern" Wolverine. But for most people only familiar with the one with adamantium claws, they get "Classic Wolverine". If they get curious about why the difference and find out about the story, it might also sell more comics. And, cynically, money is always a motivation.

[@ToniCiprianiX007]

3 more days! It's a countdown, yall.

[@Dracobyte]

And 3 more months for the physical version.

[@aegisreflector1239]

Is the release date only for switch?

[@iowa2777]

@@aegisreflector1239 nope, all systems

[@VERMISIMILITUDE]

@@aegisreflector1239no, it’s for Switch, PS4 & Steam. The physical version comes out on the November 22nd.

[@Dracobyte]

@@aegisreflector1239 no, also PlayStation and PC. Xbox is next year.

[@NoNameM9]

nice conan o brien reference abut THE YEAR TWO THOUSAAAANNNDDD

[@TheSpeedfoever]

3 days until the MVC collection comes out on digital! I can't believe this is still real and its happening! Can't wait to play this!

[@Fools_Requiem]

As a baby, I appreciate the better accessibility for us plebs. Less attack buttons (like SNK games) and easier supers. This game is too fast and frantic to have difficult supers and 6 attack buttons.

[@r1konTheAutomator]

...if this is a callback to when Max was talking about his initial reaction to mvc2 he said "four buttons? Is this game for babies?!". If so, you're amazing.

[@ckingch]

I always just assumed that the two Wolverine thing was because of how he changed from XMvSF to MSHvSF, and this was a chance to put both the old version and the newer version in.

[@raggaeldestro8609]

Colossus, Hulk and Juggernaut THC was ridiculous. Instant death.

[@smashbro67]

Here’s a way they could’ve differentiated the two Wolverines. Have the bone claw version wear the brown and yellow outfit by default.

[@ExpEcer]

I got that THC I've been smoking on it glad they're incorporating it into Marvel vs Capcom

[@gengarts3447]

I love these. Hearing how games were created is so sick to hear, their comments and such just highlight the passion involved

[@Terry3571]

Let us all look to the future. All the way to the year 2000. In the year Twooo thousaaand!

[@grouchygamer2404]

This game is so special and spectacular that it doesn't matter how much information we get on it, I still want more 😂 like for example why X and Zero didn't make it for MvC2? etc etc

[@joshualacey2236]

I remember winning MvC2 for Dreamcast from some internet site and till this day, it's the best thing i've ever won.

[@btnhmothugline7]

The release date cant come any sooner yooo i cant wait i still dont think i can believe its happening i havent played mvc2 in literally 20 years i need it today!!!! 😂😂

[@robertlafrance9974]

I’m glad they made this also 4 days left

[@juniezero1325]

I Cannot Wait For Thursday To Come Out!😁

[@mamba7160]

4:16 bone claw wolverine already looked like the regular Wolverine sprite anyway

[@docthefaust4519]

Cept...with slightly gnarlier looking claws

[@SullySadface]

his claws are a slightly yellower hue. pee pee hands Logan.

[@spoonimefan]

​@@SullySadface: They also move independently of his hands and each other during idle animations, like Omega Red's or Shuma Gorath's tentacles. Adamantium Wolverine's appear bluer and always stay straight/still. At least I thought that's what I've observed.

[@Laerei]

Me and my friends are a bunch of Marvel fans and I am the additional Capcom fan among them. I have already a game night planned with them when MVC Collection comes out where we play all of the MVC games in order and I tell them about the history of the series which is quite interesting. I'm a little bit hopeful that Infinity & Beyond is out by then because I want to show them what the community is doing for the game with their love and passion. These are exciting times to be MVC fans indeed!

[@Dracobyte]

For anyone interested: Max was invited again to the Dropped Frames podcast, but this time to talk about MvC (instead of Final Fantasy 7 theories).

[@AlexMax2742]

Sometimes I wish that Capcom would bring out the old sprites for one last "hurrah" - at least a better one than Capcom Fighting Jam. SF6 is a great game, but part of me misses the barely-contained insanity of cramming a dozen crazy ideas into a game like MvC2 or CvS2.

[@Dracobyte]

The problem is that is very expensive.

[@AlexMax2742]

@@Dracobyte Yeah, which is why it'd be nice if they'd make life easier on themselves through asset reuse.

[@memesandhoi2924]

It would be cool if at least someone in their fighting game division knew how to make sprites like how they did back then.

[@Xaero83ZX]

🎵From the year 2000!🎵

[@Dracobyte]

And you could not use the telephone while using the Internet.

[@TheoZaHero]

The year I was born. As somebody who has played a lot of UMVC3 and MVCI, I cannot wait to try the classics!

[@Johnsonicv]

Would watch a whole series of Max reading developer interviews for his favorite games

[@Playboyjoker707]

Damn i forgot the digital is close to release cause i am waiting for the physical version.

[@morganbrown392]

Damn I never realized Son Son was Wukong but always called him Goku knowing of “Journey To The West”

[@Prince.Mykal.Vision]

BRING BACK 6 BUTTONS!

[@shinzankuro]

Total Hyper Combos = Variable Combinations = Crossover Combinations [Basically, the Team/Duo Hyper Combo Attack]

[@iorn9814]

Marvel went out drinking with their buddies and saw capcom at the end of the bar

[@herbertscott9575]

Been playing this game since the day it came out. With friends, its the same intesity and competitivness from back then😂

[@CalciumChief]

12:34 Also, that means you don't have to make sprites, or even 3D models for those characters and save up on disc space.

[@sonic_genesis]

13:27 I know the music was a turn off for many fans including myself but overtime I appreciate it. The sounds was fresh and more advanced in quality than any fighting games I’ve played before. Same with CVS2.

[@SantosGamez-s2s]

Max you gotta preach a random selection button! I hope the collection comes with one.

[@MrTubeStuck]

I love the idea that "we have the opportunity to put to Logans in one game, do it" its so early 90s

[@dercus6202]

Funny enough, I WAS in bed while watching the stream on phone, and I did fell asleep while listening this, soo yeah, thanks for the bedtime story Max

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

I'm happy Capcom tried something dif for the music I don't like how most SF6 music ended up but I respect how they keep trying to do things differently over the years

[@Deadwolf27]

I know its not out right said but the way they talk about Ruby implies she wasnt a scrapped Darkstalkers character

[@DRKUMARADIO]

She wasnt

[@Deadwolf27]

@@DRKUMARADIO source?

[@Dracobyte]

​@@Deadwolf27i think some Thorgi's Arcade videos mentioned that.

[@no_nameyouknow]

​@@Deadwolf27 do you have a source?

[@Deadwolf27]

@@no_nameyouknow why would I have a source?

[@WarrenGdog28]

Maximillion 4 more days to go For the Collection of the Year

[@Dracobyte]

3 more days!

[@happyabbyarts]

Cant believe they settled on Marrow after that explanation

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I always figured bone claws was there to even out the roster between the Capcom and Marvel side with minimal effort. I didn’t realize Marvel wanted that.

[@Ihonmatar]

Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 on Dreamcast is what got me into fighting games. I started playing them by playing SF2 and MK as a kid, but MvC2 got me to really start understanding how a fighting game works. Which, IMHO, is another brilliant aspect of the game.

[@Pumpking1984]

lol, okay that ending made me laugh. he was like Go to bed, chat. like a father telling his kid to go to bed. lol thank you for the laugh Max.

[@PhirePhlame]

As a fun fact, the Japanese Dreamcast version tried wayyyy too hard to lean into that arcade/home synergy gimmick, especially since not all versions of the arcade cabinet - even in Japan - had all the interoperability features. Instead of the usual one exp counter, there were three different ones. One was for playing the game, another was for playing the arcade version with your VMU plugged in, and the third one was for online gameplay. And yes, the unlocks look to _all three of them_ as portions of a single key, rather than as alternatives to one another.

[@kottonmouthxkyd]

I usually recognized Expansion type as moves that juggled and kept flowing combo strings as opposed to 1 frames or trijump strings.

[@DavMCycle]

Great video Max, this is great for game history preservation, it is cool to know the stories behind this awesome game.

[@kluang1]

I've already saw some people complaining about rogue in MvC2 cannot copy moves with her kiss. Like that is a lot of work and will took more space.

[@aRBy125]

That was one of the most fun things about Rogue in XvSF. The reason for not having it in MvC2 was understandable, but it doesn't make it suck any less...

[@kluang1]

@@aRBy125 I do hope they gave her that in this collection though

[@kitestar]

Ive always thought amingo was a rejected Darkstalkers that made its way into MAHVEL

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

Having to pay for X minutes of internet really brought me back, lol.

[@aRBy125]

The funny thing about these days, back in college with a Dreamcast, you used home version to practice for the arcade, lol!

[@Bane_Amesta]

The name Tetsuya Shibata felt familiar, and no wonder, he's also made music for Devil May Cry, that explains a lot

[@aleckermit]

Some of the most unique and memorable games are the product of creative freedom. I think of MvC2, Majora's Mask, Space Channel 5 Part 2. The devs just went "eh, I do what I want" and produced gold.

[@krono5el]

Naomi was poppin capacitors and making my dreams come true.

[@OnizenArt]

Dreamcast version was where i started in year 2000 was so happy, cuz I got the dreamcast and this game for my birthday, wasn't really a fighting game person until I owned this and sparked my love for fighting games

[@uvarighalvarado8677]

Marvel be like: What’s better than Wolverine? Two, two Wolverines.

[@dimmuborgir82]

Juggernaut punch!

[@markc12345]

🎶I WANNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE🎶

[@SlickRick4EVER]

00:13 - Ohh, you still remember La Bamba saying that, in Conan O’Brien’s “Year 2000” segment?!?! Did you also when Jim Carrey did that segment and mentioned about carrots? Lol (if you all know, you know!)

[@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361]

“No non human characters on the capcom side” Blanka sitting in the corner sad.

[@gluckhunterjr.9344]

two wolverines is almost like ryu and Ken in OG SF2

[@alainchristian]

Amingo is basically Darkstalker character.

[@TheBlueArcher]

I always thought they just threw a bunch of monkeys onto the developer console and they managed to write Hamlet.

[@TonyTheTGR]

WE WANT A COOL NEW SOUND *gives the game the reject soundtrack from The Price Is Right*

[@albynano4619]

I wonder if Mutant academy games are ever coming back.

[@axylmagro4489]

This game to me has good amount of combos glad ive unlocked the whole roster, to intricate such long fun.

[@jakeport4024]

MVC2 is one of my top 5 fighting games I've ever played.

[@goranisacson2502]

I wonder what might have happened to the games balance / features, if they ever got to make an updated revision of the game. If they'd try to even out the power of the THC, or if they'd try to rename the assists... but mostly I wonder what could happen if they all got their own endings and we could have a glimpse of Ruby Hearts personality, make her a little more established and maybe have her star in other games.

[@Nate1979]

Thanks shmuplations for translating all these revealing and fascinating articles!

[@fRikimaru1974]

I sitll think that it would be a lot nicer if they would have been able to keep the 6 attack buttons and all the original frames for the characters.

[@madmaxandrade]

A Max video about MvC that starts with a Conan reference?!.. KZbin could not recommend better content for me even if they tried.

[@jknight5241]

Online for the digital copies are going to be insane.....I just hope I won't be cooked in matches too quickly 😅

[@jamesbulleit1728]

4 buttons > 6. Don’t @ me.

[@TsmCrankster]

Well everyone, when the collection drops Sept 12th it aint crossplay, get it for every console or choose wisely....

[@tuluflulu]

I'm getting the PS4 version. Seems like it has the biggest install base, that would play a game like this.

[@cashordeals3672]

Ngl if the skullgirls devs ever put a guest character into the game ruby heart would be sick

[@Scyon13]

I wish they would make a ruby heart game, she's got a great character design and a pirate game could be interesting.

[@Dracobyte]

Just a few more days for the digital release!

[@gustavodanielgimenez9684]

Is that a connan reference? 😂😂😂 Form the year 2000

[@RHeidenreich572]

Stan Lee is happy again in heaven.

[@jimmyju76]

still getting flack on 4 button because 4 button still sucks