Brian, New subscriber, retired military. Good review. I use my mss with a foam thermarest ridgerest solar pad inside the bivi under the sleeping bag, inside my hennessy survivor woodland camo zip hammock. A little heavy for long range backpacking but, never been cold, never been wet. Take care stay safe O.P. ( Olde Phart)
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
Than you for your service! I am now using the Hennesssey Jungle Explorer Zip with the slide in thermal pad and it is pretty warm.
@MrWmburr7 Жыл бұрын
Brian, great video. You explained each piece of equipment, showed how they marry together, and the benefit of the bag as a whole. I bought one new, but have never used it. Now I'm old and sick, so time to pass it down to someone who might appreciate having one.
@islandboypopo10 жыл бұрын
This was the most cozy sleeping bag system I've ever been in. Cold nights in Afghanistan, and in the mojave desert, and this thing got the job done. I will say it's rather heavy, but that is the only downfall. I miss it so much I ordered my own.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Bo Fa'aita Thanks for serving! Yeah, I used mine this weekend in my Hennessey Hammock while camping with the Boy Scouts. It got down in the low 40s and I was toasty, which is tricky in a hammock.
@sivispacemparabellum48737 жыл бұрын
Bo Fa'aita same here. I missed mine so much that I just had to purchase my own since I couldn't get away with snagging it before my time was up. I still have my woobie though and managed to keep my USMC ILBE pack along with my assault pack that attaches to it to. What branch did you serve in by the way?
@playinem1217 жыл бұрын
Bo Fa'aita...Agreed! And it gets plenty cold in Afghanistan.
@billy_h_bonney20974 жыл бұрын
I brought mine home with me and my wife is such a bed sheet hog that one night I was being a smart a$$ and threw my sleeping bag on the bed. She said "what are you doing?" I climbed into the bag and said good luck steeling these covers!!". Dude!! Best nights sleep since Baghdad rotfl. Im so glad supply lost their records of issuing my TA-50. The only things I returned was my Kevlar and my IBA. Everything else I brought home with me :D
@hartzogLovesScience3 жыл бұрын
10lbs isn’t it
@joeyjones90415 жыл бұрын
Mine and my wife's came with a 9 strap compression sack. 6 that go long ways, and 3 that go short ways around the round part. You definitely want the 9 strap sack, it compresses it much better. They are about 20 bucks on ebay. I bought the whole 4pc system used in excellent condition for $140. I love it, it's my favorite piece of gear.
@SurvivalOnPurpose5 жыл бұрын
Cool
@wanderingcalamity3605 жыл бұрын
I'll keep an eye out for that one. Probably easier to get it compressed.
@billy_h_bonney20974 жыл бұрын
if you want to compress the sleeping bag more, you can sit on the bag as you pull up on the compression straps. Also when you are sleeping in one in cold or extreme cold weather, once you get in it you are supposed to strip off your uniform,(clothes), and keep them inside the bag with you. This allows your body to breathe so that you are not sweating in your clothes, and keeps your clothes warm for when you get up in the morning.
@SurvivalOnPurpose4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@davidpolaczek36142 ай бұрын
I wish I knew this sooner
@jedi_drifter29887 жыл бұрын
I have always had good luck getting my compression bags smallest when after pulling the straps tight, you can then sit on the top side of the bag and continue to tighten the straps. Let your weight and gravity do the work .
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
+Jedi_Drifter yep
@bennyvoncannon19710 жыл бұрын
Brain I think this was the best yet. Don't think I have seen anyone show the whole system from take down put together and stuff to all in one video. Very good thanks a bunch.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
benny voncannon Thanks Benny. I hadn't either so I wanted to show the whole process. Maybe a little boring but hopefully it helps.
@sivispacemparabellum48737 жыл бұрын
These also come in a larger sizes for taller individuals. When purchasing said item,be sure you get the one that fits your size so that it can be used to it's full extent. I'm about 5' 8" and have the size listed as the one in this video. They can be purchased on eBay for a great price and in a variety of conditions with A being in tip top shape,and B being slightly used,and C having small holes/tares/rips,missing buttons or zippers that may not function but can be repaired. These sleep systems are an excellent item to add to your bug out bag or just for every day camping with the family. I would highly recommend the purchase of this sleep system for a variety of reasons. Don't forget to buy either a yoga mat to tuck inside of it or a self inflating mat for extra added comfort. Great video made here by the way and you won't regret purchasing such an item. In sime cases,most of these come with directions on how to dress properly for the environment you are in so that the MSS can be used to it's full potential when dressed properly in whatever climate you are in.
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad got the right size
@VE3FAL1Fred2 жыл бұрын
I have this MSS and the Canadian MSS, the US version does me well in my hot tents. My Cdn system is much larger and heavier and is good for much colder temps, but again your clothing you sleep in , and your shelter will make all the difference, a good pad and cot or insulation on the ground make all the difference. Will be using my US MSS this weekend at the prospector tent....cheers Fred
@williamwright821644 жыл бұрын
To my understanding when you combine the patrol bag and the intermediate cold bag it brings the protection to -25.
@576chachacha7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I've got two of these, one from the Army and one bought new/surplus. Since they've introduced a different color scheme and upgraded version these older ones with the green/black/woodland patters are going for real good prices new. It's not perfect, the tech is two decades behind, there's a lot of stuff out there that's lighter by a big margin. The stuff sack is just bad, there's no top/bottom cover to compress from that direction. Except for the patrol bag it really is too heavy a system for backpacking, but that green bag with a better sleeping pad [not the green one on the vid] should keep you warm down to 35 degrees or so. The whole thing is great for car camping or hunting trips.
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
It is indeed a little heavy but it works
@mickeyauthement68988 жыл бұрын
Finally found one listed as in "Excellent Condition" for under $100. Am happy you did a video on the complete system especially putting the assembled system into the stuff sack. Had been wondering if that was a possibility or not.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
Barely ;-)
@KatzOhki9 жыл бұрын
I have one of these and I absolutely love it. Thing is too dang warm for me almost, I recon i would sleep fine down to -30 no problem.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+KatzOhki Pretty heavy too.
@jwall387314 күн бұрын
Darn good vid...learned a lot... Keep up the good work!
@toma67410 жыл бұрын
I don't know how this video escaped me,but that is a great system Bryan..boy,mother nature really knows how to mess with us,don't she? Very thorough review and demo.This would be great to keep in the vehicle for the winter.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
tom a I need to get a weatherproof camera but all the Go Pro type cameras have those wide angle lenses that make everything look all distorted. And, yes, the MSS is perfect for that. I came very close to being stranded last winter by the gigantic 4" snowfall that hit Georgia but I wasn't too concerned because I had what I needed to make it through the night in my truck. This winter I'll be even better prepared ;-)
@sipapito9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video;I got this system new and its warm but way heavy and bulky I wish it lighter and smaller!
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Tonauac/Teonewhopossesseslight /Nahuatl Wouldn't that be great.
@RadicatTat10 жыл бұрын
I love mine. Highest quality. One can serve as a cushion if needed. Nice video.
@ericwitt4586 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got two of these they do have a camp goretex bag that the stuff bag goes into there nice also I use mine every winter at my off grid cabin up in the mountains so far the patrol and the goretex bivy has been great you got a good Syst there it will do you well sir !
@mr.delacruz5598 жыл бұрын
smart putting it in assembled in the bevy because of your carrying this and if it ever gets wet the bevy will keep the inner sleeping bags dry. that's how I put my sleep system in its compression pouch. Great video!
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@michaellester59019 жыл бұрын
dose very well in a hammock I slept in mine at -9°F with an under quilt
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Michael Lester Underquilts make all the difference.
@RB-xv4si Жыл бұрын
Love YKK zippers. I try to make sure I get the YKK Vislon zippers on all my jackets. Lenzip is also a good quality U.S. made zipper. I have them on my tool bags. Thanks for posting.
@MrPatagonicus10 жыл бұрын
I purchased one of these just about a month ago. It was listed as used, but it came in like new condition, straight from an USAF base in Germany. I just took it up into the Sierra Nevada over the weekend on a backpacking trip, and it went great, using the patrol bag and the bivy. No problems at all sleeping at around 9,000 ft.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
MrPatagonicus That's good to know. I almost went with a used one, I have just been burned on stuff like that before. Glad you got a good one.
@MrPatagonicus10 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose I've been burned before as well. The price was low though, and especially so seeing it arrived in such great shape. I think the quality, modular design will serve me well for quite some time. Thanks again for the review.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@turtlewolfpack60619 жыл бұрын
I recently got myself the Canadian version of this (all I need is the outer sleeping bag to complete the set) and although older tech, being down and the bags tie together instead of button, the bloody thing is toasty warm and the bivvy bag did its duty recently on a very wet weekend bush camp out!
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+TurtleWolf Pack I bet the down bags are warm. You just have to make sure they stay dry.
@turtlewolfpack60619 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose yup you do and not a good idea to store them compressed.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
Which is probably a good idea with all bags but I just don't have room
@turtlewolfpack60619 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose less so with synthetic bags is my understanding.
@danielcharbonneau2225 жыл бұрын
@@turtlewolfpack6061 I've been looking for the Canadian version MSS. Where did you find yours, what name was the system called for me to do a search for them.
@samualiam99819 жыл бұрын
I am 72 inches tall and about 240 lbs. and I fit in this entire system rather easily and comfortably. Takes a minute to get used to "mummy style" sleeping, but its worth it. Used these back in spring of 06 on Ft. Richardson, AK. They work great.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Samual Iam And they are toasty.
@Cands52810 жыл бұрын
I us the bivy with my kelty bag it is real nice. I have the compression sack too. I store my kelty, bivy, silny tarp and hammock in it.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Stanley Sprow Sounds perfect Stanley.
@mickeyauthement68988 жыл бұрын
Had mine for about 2 yrs. Best system I have ever owned.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
Heavy but warm
@Rich-ni2ol3 жыл бұрын
Been using mine since it was issued, I'm in it right now, and I never noticed that drawstring. Btw, I've always put the green bag inside of the black but mostly just run the green and bivy.
@concernedcitizen2898 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so you wrote this comment while tucked into your bag? I never thought the MSS was versatile enough to allow someone to use their smart phone.
@Rich-ni2ol Жыл бұрын
@@concernedcitizen2898 More versatile than a poncho and woobie.
@rakehell4047 жыл бұрын
I have camped in this bag in a snowstorm that went down to around 15*F and was snug as a bug. It is very high quality, rugged gear that's very well thought out. One thing I did to reduce condensation was keep the bivy zipper open near my head and stuck a rolled bandana in the zipper to open a small gap. In the morning I had a little bit of frost on bivy near my head but not much. One thing I'd suggest is consider taking an air pad. The closed cell foam works pretty well but an air pad would have made a huge difference in terms of comfort and insulation. The other side of that coin is that an air pad can go flat and pads don't. YMMV
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the foam bad is not really comfy. My hips hurt in the morning.
@carolinares-q420510 жыл бұрын
I have this system, and I can tell you great winter kit, slept in it out in open under tarp down around 15 degrees no problem, only thing if you are a large person, it is tight, don,t know if they come in diffident sizes, this will be the last sleeping bag you will buy.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Darren Ledford That's good to hear. I know a lot of people may think it's expensive when you can buy a sleeping bag at Walmart for under $50 but you can spend a LOT of money on a sleeping bag without even trying so I think it's a good value. Of course it is WAY heavy of you are looking for ultralight gear.
@carolinares-q420510 жыл бұрын
You are right no Walmart bag and a little heavy but worth every penny. You will be happy.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
I'm already happy and I haven't even slept in it yet ;-)
@ambulance_boy38346 жыл бұрын
got mine new for 100 dollars on eBay but sadly now it's sold out. just did a review of it on my channel. thanks for the review!
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
Great deal
@ambulance_boy38346 жыл бұрын
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Yeah I was happy when I found it. Thanks again!
@AquaTech2255 жыл бұрын
Yeah now their 170 seems
@butlersranger10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am looking at picking up two of these. They look to be out of the new ones. The used ones are very inexpensive. $150 new there is the used price here for a good, not very good quality used. I will have to keep watching them and wait for some new or like new to come in.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
butlersranger There are a lot of folks on eBay selling these. I just searched for new MMS sleep system or use one of the other names (ECWS, etc). Chris over at PreparedMind101 has a good source too. I don't know if they have new ones but here's a link to their store www.ebay.com/sch/samsurplussales/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
@tracyjohnson317710 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan! for the best video review of the MSS system I've seen. You did all the research for us. I just received the black bag I ordered today. Can't wait to try it out.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Tracy Johnson I appreciate it Tracy. I had a hard time finding any reviews that answered all my questions before I finally decided to buy one so I tried to be as thorough as I could. Thanks for taking time to watch. You gonna be warm.
@davidwolcott71713 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this vid. It was very helpful. I am trying mine out tonight- temps in 20's!!
@mrrivets105 жыл бұрын
Great video. Smart, simple, effective. Thank you.
@billhanson8278 жыл бұрын
Great set up. Can't go wrong with US mil spec.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
It's warm
@thebrizzy9 жыл бұрын
I use the improved system but with the woodland camo bivy.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Brian Dunn This one does great. The only improvement I can think of is I wish it was lighter ;-)
@mikeeasterday95577 жыл бұрын
I have used the bags without the Goretex in freezing temperatures. I am grateful for the comfort.
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
They are toasty
@kevinschulmeister20548 жыл бұрын
I jam mine into the stuff sac Judd like you did, all snapped into one piece. I also leave my pillow in the top. it still food in the sac.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
+kevin schulmeister You have room for a pillow? You must be a better stuffer than me.
@kingharryannis9 жыл бұрын
The sleeping bags I used in the British forces were quite different as we slept with our rifles at the ready.Top half just a flap to be quickly flipped open.You can not sleep with your rifle at the ready and exit quickly in the MSS.For civilian use a fantastic bag.Slept with just the patrol bag ,now it is diving below zero I installed the inner bag and the bivi bag.A very good bang for the buck.You can not beat army surplus stuff for design ,quality and toughness and price.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
Mine keeps me toasty
@panzerd52489 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I just received my bag and pad and hope to have many years of use.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Panzer D You'll be warm for sure.
@jelkel259 жыл бұрын
I really like the look of that, will have to wait until I'm back in North America as almost any good piece of US army surplus, you get stung on the price in the UK (or it's a copy). Great stuff!!
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+jelkel25 They are hit and miss here now.
@jelkel259 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose A real shame, I'll have to look into the British or European systems see what they have going for them, always liked the look of the Dutch army hooped bivvi's.
@paultindall271910 жыл бұрын
very nice demo vid .the ultimate sleeping bag ive got one heavy but bullet prof and a comfortable nights sleep no shivering and shaking thanks mate atb
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Paul Tindall Yep. It's warm and it's heavy. I took mine on a backpacking trip and started looking at lightweight gear the very next week ;-)
@kingharryannis9 жыл бұрын
Using my MSS right now in northern alberta,temp fluctuations are great, 2 bag system allow to adapt quickly. 30c to -30c.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Infidel Atheist It is a great system
@bushpilotdude71546 жыл бұрын
Brian this is an awesome video and you are a very good instructor! Thank you for sharing! Semper Fi
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@stymebone66039 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your knowledge! Just bought this system. Thanx again for what you do.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
Donald Staples You're gonna like it.
@hamn7zkf9 жыл бұрын
awsome video, been thinking about buying one of these. Thanks for a complete look at the entire system!
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
It is very warm and fairly heavy.
@Gbaum51510 жыл бұрын
Hey man just wanna say thanks for this august marathon that you're doing for us . I've been researching this mss bag for a while now and have seen a bunch of videos but your video is the first video that I've actually seen the thing put together in real time . Your video definitely has made my final decision in getting this bag.. And also want to say Thanks for representing us Georgia boys keep up the good work and also an idea for maybe future videos is to explore a little bit more on wild edibles and medicinal plants here in the North Georgia area or East Coast area , I don't know about anybody else but I'm pretty lost when it comes to those things and being that I am living in the North Georgia area I could definitely benefit from such information but like I said it's just an idea you're doing pretty good so far, so thanks again!
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Gbaum515 Yeah, when I was thinking about buying mine I watched a bunch of videos too. None of them seemed to show enough details so I tried to make sure mine did. I'm glad it helped you.As for the edible and medicinal plants, I was just talking to a friend yesterday about wanting to learn more about that subject. I have some good books but my knowledge is super basic. That will be a case of us learning together, which is OK by me. I said from the beginning I'm not any kind of expert, just a guy who has spent a night or two in the woods over the years and likes it.Stick with me and we'll get to it. Where do you live in Georgia?
@opalprestonshirley17009 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Yeah the only thing I didn't like about the system was it's weight but a bit of sweat now and sleep snug and warm. Thanks. atb Opal
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
It is definitely warm.
@angeluscorpion10 жыл бұрын
Brian, I have been a grunt for 12 years. For 10 of those I used this sleeping system. As a grunt it it OK by normal standards I would rate it as good. Also the green bag goes inside the black bag.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the real world feedback. Every photo I found, including the one on Tennier Industries website shows the black bag inside the green bag. Just goes to show that the folks who make gear don't always know how it will be used.
@reconmanone9 жыл бұрын
You did it correctly, the black goes inside the green. Too many soldiers use it improperly. Also your supposed to sleep in it with minimal clothing. The bag stores your body heat to keep you warm. Too much clothing keeps the bag from doing it's job. Have used the system in -50 with nothing on. It is important to use a mat. This is from a 24 year infantry vet.
@keithrudge10 жыл бұрын
Nice job in the review. I enjoy all of your videos.. No BS, good honest evaluation.. Keep them coming..
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Keith Rudge Thanks Keith. Hello up in Alpharetta. I'm in Douglasville.
@keithrudge10 жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan, not too far away, relative neighbors.... A quick question for you, I am a native of the UK, and we only have one poisonous snake species, the Adder a. pier I think.. I have never even thought about them when hiking I. England and Scotland... Very rare to come across them. Should I be concerned her in Georgia? I am a bit paranoid about them and not sure if I should worry unduly, what has been your experience when hiking..?
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
We 4 different types of venomous snakes here in Georgia, with several subspecies. Rattlesnakes, Copperheads, water moccasins and coral snakes. I have been hiking and camping in the Georgia woods for over 40 years and have only seen a venomous snake maybe 3 or 4 times and have never had a really close call. That's not to say it doesn't happen, it just hasn't happened to me. The most likely species you will encounter when hiking anywhere north of Macon would be copperheads or rattlesnakes. As long as you practice good hiking safety (such as stepping on top of logs instead of just stepping over them, etc) you could probably go your entire life and never see a poisonous snake in the wild. Especially if you are hiking on established trails. Having said that, the last one I saw was earlier this year at a very busy trail at Kennesaw Mountain in Marietta. We came upon a very small (8" or so) baby copperhead. Since there are always a lot of kids on that trail... I'll leave it at that. I have seen some big rat snakes on the same trail (4'-5') and that is always cool. Lots of deer there too, it's a great place to hike just not to secluded. But I digress. anyway, I wouldn't sweat it. And just remember, if you were to be bitten and envenomed, don't do the old cut and suck stuff. Just get to the hospital ASAP.
@keithrudge10 жыл бұрын
Bryan, really appreciate the quick response. I will go with your thoughts, ie don't sweat it, but be vigilante...lol... have a great weekend.. We definitely plan to do the Kennesaw trail and there is one called iron mill trail, on red mountain, that should get the blood circulating again...;0)
@keithrudge10 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the advice, thanks
@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын
We have something simular in uk miliary. Very good piece of kit even if used its still good kit. Made by many manufacturers to simular spec nato patern.
@stephenhill60037 жыл бұрын
I've used the patrol bag down to the lower 20's, but I sleep fully clothed. My feet were a bit cold, but other than that no worries.
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
I have too and it was fine
@toddking8048 жыл бұрын
can't wait for my bag . just ordered one
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
It is a great system. Heavy but great.
@Kevin-ip8uf8 жыл бұрын
this is why I was looking at this product - winter hammock camping. 2 weeks ago I slept in a hammock in -11C with a 0 degree bag. obviously I want a warmer bag now lol
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
Brrrr
@0ktober7 жыл бұрын
Me too, man. Just bought my first top notch hammock / tarp combo, haven't tried it yet but got an itch that I should research winter hammock camping a bit more. The temperatures in Finland are still dropping down to -10 C at nights, so I decided to put my money to good insulation and a decent sleeping bag or bags. If I get these, I'm not exactly planning to get an underquilt with them - they may (or may not) work wonders but man, are they are clunky.
@semco720576 жыл бұрын
I was just looking at the Marine Corps video on their sleep system and it is different and if theirs is that good then the Air Force, Army, and Navy must have a similar system as well. I never had to depend on that type of system while on active duty and glad of it. The coldest place I was stationed at was Minot, North Dakota and I was so glad to be sent to Thailand after being there a year.
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
I think this one may have been replaced. Gotta keep spending those tax dollars ;-)
@muzzleblast8810 жыл бұрын
Nice video I been looking into getting a sleeping bag to add to the bag this seems like a good system from wat I've read n seen. Thanks for the video
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
I think it will be. I'm going to use it exclusively this fall and winter (maybe not for backpacking). And I'll do a follow up video on a few months.
@jessicarymell8606 жыл бұрын
I've never seen the compression bag without the straps that go the other way u would think when u cinch it down it would get very far in the middle but it didn't seem 2
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
The caps keep it all in place
@Biblicalgiants8 жыл бұрын
..I had a chance to buy this exact same bag used from a surplus guy for $100 but idk..I'm kinda bed bug conscious.. but excellent video!
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
+biblical giants You'd probably be OK as far as bed bugs go. I just found a new one for a little more so that made sense.
@Breakdady10 жыл бұрын
Ive got this system as well. Very versatile. I really think youll get some good mileage out of yours.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Breakdady I'm sure I will. If it's good enough for our folks in uniform, it's good enough for me.
@TheBladeluster8 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Nice comprehensive review. Just purchased mine, cost me both arms and a leg to get posted overseas (guess that will leave more room in the bag). I wasn't sure how this went together properly, this has helped lots. You should mention that this sleep system should not be stored compressed though. I have heard it will ruin the systems bag-fill.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
+Couch Ninja I store mine compressed and I would bet the military does too. I'm sure it is better not to but many people don't have room to store theirs loose.
@TheBladeluster8 жыл бұрын
Your probably right, however the military can afford to just get another one off the shelf at will whenever the old one is no longer any good. I made the comment because you Americans often forget about your international subscribers. I purchased this system and it cost me $150 just to get the item shipped to my country. Letting me know that keeping it in a compressed state may effect the fill would have been something that I would have wanted to know, had I not already known it. I can't afford to just keep forking out $200+ for a sleep system, I need to look after it as best I can. As for space, well, it all folds up nicely into a cardboard box uncompressed, not that much more of a hastle to store. Still, keep up the good reviews, I enjoy your channel.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
I understand. I was just being honest. I don't store mine uncompressed and I'm really not concerned about it. I Bet it will serve me fine for many years to come.
@carls.67465 жыл бұрын
you can find them on ebay slightly used for around $190 and new in package for $300+
@SurvivalOnPurpose5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertevans81267 жыл бұрын
Really liked this video ... You mentioned that you were going to do another review, after you used them ... did you do another video on them?
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
Not yet. But they rock, just heavy
@robertevans81267 жыл бұрын
OK :)
@MrEvanvance8 жыл бұрын
I suppose you wouldn't have to carry the whole system. Maybe just the black or the green part depending on the season you're in and if you have a tent. I have a used one . my compression bag is different I can pull on both long ways and fro the sides in. I'm going to read about washing it.
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
Yep, just carry what you need.
@markfillery10026 жыл бұрын
with regard to the bivy it is designed to work with a basha over the top if its raining rather than on its own dont want to wake up with rain on your face in middle of the night
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@markfillery10026 жыл бұрын
try to pick a raised spot of ground rather than dip as you can wake up in a puddle thats what the bivi was for
@TurtleBushcraft9 жыл бұрын
Very nice been looking at one my self for this winter. how did it work out in the winter? Thanks s for sharing atb John
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+Turtle Bushcraft I slept in the complete system, including bivy, in mid 20 degree F with no tent and stayed toasty.
@TurtleBushcraft9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply i think it will do me fine, atb John
@michaeld897510 жыл бұрын
don't store it compressed. Which model hennessy are you using? I think in the tent video you said hennessy. Chris just sold his warbonnet but i'm not on facebook alot so by the time I saw it, it was already sold.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Mooky Mann I have the Hennessey Explorer bottom entry. And I wouldn't store it compressed but i have 4 sons and we all have camping gear and I only have so much room.
@andrewbaker48906 жыл бұрын
Hello sir Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. I’ve been thinking about getting one of these. My question is could you get a sleep system and avoid getting a under quilt. When it comes to sleeping in a hammock in the winter.
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
I guess that depends on you. The advantage of an under quilt is that it doesn’t get compressed by your body and lose it’s ability to insulate.
@jkamp9 жыл бұрын
Very interested to know how this worked for you in the hammock. I'm also getting into hammock camping and am looking heavily at this system. It is a bit heavier than I wanted to go, but I love the modularity for different temps, so I don't necessarily need to take it all with. Hopefully you've gotten some use in with it. I don't really anticipate using it below high 20's... perhaps even low 30's. I'm in Arizona, so I'll be doing most of my camping around Prescott, Payson, or Sedona areas. Thanks!
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
I have not had the chance to use mine but once in my hammock. The temps were in the 40s and I was fine. I did use the whole system on the ground in. Mid 20s temps with just the bivy and no tent and I was toasty. I plan to use it in March in my hammock so I'll try to do a follow up after that.
@jkamp9 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose Awesome. Thanks for the reply! Sub'd so I can catch your update! I went ahead and ordered one anyways. Found grade 1 'excellent' condition one on ebay for a little over $100. Looking forward to giving it a try.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
Joshua Kampmeier You'll be warm.
@CRM083 жыл бұрын
I purchased one of these new. Tried it overnight in 15°F weather, it was a miserable experience. I wouldn't mind the weight if it was warmer. I'm going to try a Recon 4 sleeping bag at only 3.5 pounds. I may still freeze but at least it will be much lighter.
@SurvivalOnPurpose3 жыл бұрын
Did you have a good ground pad? I slept in mine in the low 20s using both backs and the goretex bibs on the green military pad and I was warm enough. It wasn’t comfortable because I hate sleeping on the ground and my hips hurt from that but I wasn’t really cold.
@komrad40 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@trinovantian19 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review Brian. Cheers mate !
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
trinovantian1 Thanks.
@peerzeidler11 ай бұрын
cool friend the Best Militär Sleep System ! cool
@misteragb75589 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was lookig for!! Thanks for sharing Brian!!
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
It works great.
@jeffhardie42872 жыл бұрын
I hope fright train in all wether! I'm not knocking your video, I bought the same military system bag I'm not please with it... it's comes unsnap when tasing around in it and traps cold spot in-between the layers ,not something you want to deal with in sub zero weather..I have been using the old school Millarty OD green extreme for many years it's much more durable it's worth the weight to carry and a decent tarp to roll up in best of luck with your new bag?
@danielk947510 жыл бұрын
Sit on the compression sack while tightening it down. Makes it a lot easier.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Daniel Kean Yep, that's what I figured out. It's still a job though.
@L2FlyMN2 жыл бұрын
If you want to really compress the compression sack, try sitting on it, while you sinch it down.
@andylundberg293210 жыл бұрын
I have the older style one I picked up recently for about $80 bucks at an army surplus place online. I can't wait to get out there and test it out now that the temperature is starting to drop :-) Actually I got mine the same place that you got yours, mine was used but in the top quality category. I got a bunch of stuff from that site, they really have some good deals!
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Andy Lundberg I'm using mine for he first time this weekend in my Hennessey Hammock. I'll do a follow up in a few months after giving it a good shake down.
@andylundberg293210 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose I will be testing mine in my Warbonnet lol. We will have to compare notes.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
That will be interesting. I slept in my hammock last night with the black bag at about 60F. It was actually a little too warm but I just unzipped it.
@nobodyshero28578 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make the vid, what is your opinion on someone that is 6'2" 240lbs would they fit?
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
+Nonya Business I think so, but I can't remember the specs as far as size goes. I'm about 5'8" and around 170lbs and I have plenty of room. I used just the black bag last weekend in my hammock and was toasty.
@christijarrett5 жыл бұрын
You still use your sleeping bag got mine in 2012 still looks and works as good as the day I bought it just a follow question they also have a camo bag also witch I have one for mine
@SurvivalOnPurpose5 жыл бұрын
I used it last month in fact
@ThatGuy-sc5rx3 жыл бұрын
@Rob Jarrett How do you store yours Rob ? Ever washed it ?
@christijarrett3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGuy-sc5rx rolled up in the closet
@TedsOutdoors10 жыл бұрын
I have the bivy with a backpacking sleeping bag.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Teds Outdoors I will be trying mine out in a couple of weeks.
@wolfiekitty73019 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make a very cool feed you like what's your favorite survival pack and how do you build it
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day.
@slang19688 жыл бұрын
Great info! Would an Escape Bivvy be necessary in addition with this particular system or is the patrol bag basically the same thing??
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
+ROLLIN THUNDER That is what the outer camo Goretex bivy is for
@slang19688 жыл бұрын
+Survival On Purpose Yea that's what I thought but I'm hearing tons of folk suggesting adding the SOL Escape Bivvy along with this system. Thanks!
@godSPARDA19952 жыл бұрын
Can you roll the green patrol sleeping bag without damaging the material??
@SurvivalOnPurpose2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why not
@thomasnugent76026 жыл бұрын
Very good. Thank you very much
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@anthonygomez14215 жыл бұрын
Best sleeping bag ever used them on deployments in the mountains of Afghanistan.
@SurvivalOnPurpose5 жыл бұрын
It is warm.
@Gbaum51510 жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan im in the bartow county area here in georgia. I see you spend time in kennesaw, does that put you in cobb county?
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
Gbaum515 Douglasville. Did you recognize that field in this video?
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
That one was at Kennesaw Mountain at a field.
@scottwallace51675 жыл бұрын
Try getting in that setup in a downpour in the field. That said i will never look at rei systems again same thing 10x the cost. Good video. Just bring a plastic tarp with you if you anticipate rain. other than that it aint your grandmother's surplus.
@klownmittenz87156 жыл бұрын
Hello. Coul you have put the mattress inside the bag as well? Saw open to line the stuff bag and put in sleep system inside it? Thanks.
@SurvivalOnPurpose6 жыл бұрын
I doubt it
@klownmittenz87156 жыл бұрын
Bummer. I like keeping things together and not having a lot of stuff tied all over my pack. Thanks for the response
@1themanfromvan9 жыл бұрын
My question is if you can put only various parts of the entire system in the compression bag and still have it cinch down properly. For instance, if I know I am going camping in 20 degree low temps can I take only the black bag to reduce weight in a backpack? Or do I have to use a separate compression bag that is not part of the system? Thanks.
@SurvivalOnPurpose9 жыл бұрын
+David Schmude I think it would cinch OK. If not, use some paracord. No need to buy another sack.
@corazzinatanner4986 жыл бұрын
Newer models come with two compression sacks. One for the full system and smaller that will fit the bivy and the patrol sack.
@johnboy74173 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t find these for cheap online anywhere, me and my girlfriend went half on one for about 300. A little high but we love the outdoors so don’t care much about the price on quality gear
@bustercrabbe84472 жыл бұрын
The black intermediate cold weather bag is rated to 10 degrees above zero Fahrenheit. Not a winter bag. The complete system is a Fall sleeping system and not Winter. With the proper clothing?
@SurvivalOnPurpose2 жыл бұрын
Where do you live? Siberia? Everything I can find says the system together is rated down to 30 below zero, which may be with proper clothing. Either way, it’s a winter bag for Georgia.
@bustercrabbe84472 жыл бұрын
@@SurvivalOnPurpose No, I'm from Boston and I've winter camped throughout New England for decades. Forty below zero F with the 'proper' clothing' is misleading. If you wear an arctic parka, pants, and mouse boots rated for fifty below zero F then you can claim an onion sack is rated for winter with the proper clothing. The military MSS is only an intermediate cold bag (10 °F) and that is definitely Fall weather. For sleet/hail/freezing rain/swirling snow found in a gale or nor'easter the MSS is Perfect, and is my preferred bag for September, October, November, and early December weather.
@SurvivalOnPurpose2 жыл бұрын
I have heard it gets pretty cold in New England. The manufacturer’s website (Tennier Induatries) is pretty vague: “The MSS is designed to provide comfort in temperatures ranging from 50°F to -50°F when wearing various layers of extreme cold weather clothing.” All I know is it is a pretty rugged, fairly heavy, very versatile and reasonably warm set up.
@Wingman11510 жыл бұрын
👍 Good stuff brother I need to get one.
@SurvivalOnPurpose10 жыл бұрын
I'll let you know how it works after it gets cold.
@danielcharbonneau2225 жыл бұрын
Now that you have had your MSS for a few years now how would you rate the bag. What was the coldest temp. that you slept in. I'm from Northern Ontario were the temps drop to below -30C. In you opinion will this bag keep me warm in that low temp.
@SurvivalOnPurpose5 жыл бұрын
coldest I have slept in was about 25 F, with the entire system and no tent, just the bivy and green pad. It was warm enough for that
@sebastiansilvar45188 жыл бұрын
do we always have to use the woodland cover for any bag? or can we sleep with one of the bags by itself?
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
You can use it however you want. I have only used the Bivy Cover one time. I usually just use one of the bags.
@FASTONE10007 жыл бұрын
Great video and awesome details.
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@johnnysal56357 жыл бұрын
so for extreme cold weather, do I use Only the black cold weather bag, or do i use it with the other two layers?
@SurvivalOnPurpose7 жыл бұрын
The colder it is the more layers you use
@MartyBecker8 жыл бұрын
Can the bivy be used on its own for warm weather? If not, do you have a recommendation for a warm weather bag for use in a tent?
@SurvivalOnPurpose8 жыл бұрын
+beckerm13 The green bag is pretty comfortable in warmer weather. If it's too warm for that do you really need a bag? if so, a cheap fleece one will work fine
@MartyBecker8 жыл бұрын
+Survival On Purpose Thanks for the quick response!
@morganblackheart94683 жыл бұрын
It's a great system! However, my one complaint is that I don't feel like it'd be as homey feeling as a tent in rainy/stormy weather. It'd be a bit awkward laying down all day in it trying to escape bad weather, and the solution for that would be to bring a tarp to put over it! But again, other than that, it'd be a great system. As far as weight goes, obviously there's much lighter options but yes it's way warmer than any civilian system. As far as the weight goes, obviously no one says they wish they had more weight in their ruck, but I do train and condition myself to be able to carry heavy load outs. 10 extra pounds is pretty much nothing for me for a reasonable distance. Plus our soldiers hike for up to 12 miles with 80-100 extra pounds of gear, if they can do it we can too. Depending on physical health that is. Some people do unfortunately have disabilities. But if you're already healthy, I do definitely recommend conditioning your body. You'll be amazed at how much better you feel mentally and physically. Also don't be fooled by the weight, most sleeping bags are 3-5 pounds anyway. I have a 30° bag that weighs five pounds. Pair that with a heavy tarp and an inflatable mat like my single person intex mat with a pump, you're looking at around 10 pounds anyway. Plus most people add things in it that ends up adding the same amount anyway. My edc alone weights 5 pounds and my get home bag weighs around 20. So yeah. Just saying don't let the weight scare you.
@SurvivalOnPurpose3 жыл бұрын
I have only slept out using this system with the bivy as the only shelter once. But I have used the bag(s) many times in my Hennessey Hammock. I just consider the bivy a bonus piece.