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[@NutTapActual]

Optic higher than me believing my recruiter telling me I’d be a mar/soc baddie with a Gucci kit and prime sleeping conditions

[@williamgironda4456]

😂😂

[@whomagoose6897]

Welcome to the club. The group that realizes every recruiter will tell you everything you want to hear to get you to sign up. They have quota's of inductees. Whatever it takes to get you to sign on that dotted line.

[@NutTapActual]

@@whomagoose6897 wow almost like you just broke down the whole joke woah

[@alexmaurice4274]

Isn’t it illegal to like that or no?

[@MDGOrbit]

I'm confused man

[@justinkase1360]

AR guys: AK optics sit way too high! A chin weld, are you serious?! also AR guys: Gimme dat 3" riser.

[@Clockwork0nions]

AK stocks are also typically lower than AR’s (with the exceptions of newer ones) so you actually want to use a lower mount on them lol

[@justinkase1360]

​@@Clockwork0nions Indeed

[@e0001030]

To be fair, AK stock is lower so they won't feel the same

[@alexanderp8037]

Doing long operations with hunched back behind your AR sucks it sucks even more with heavy guns. Firing an AK is much more comfortable especially with the old doctrine where you constantly aim your weapon. With AR would defo do a high rise optic maybe a forward mounted optic as well. The most comfortable gun to shoot is a famas with red dot hands down. Personally like guns with a good solid high cheek weld and high optics. Alot of people forget how comfortable classic stocks are (M14 EBR, SKS, Steyr scot, K98)

[@kentuckybowl-o-sticks]

BINGO. The lack of space to grab the AR charging handle under a conventional scope mounted without substantial risers needed to be dealt with RIGHT AWAY, as far as I was concerned...

[@CarguyRS]

I'd imagine face shape and structure also plays a decent role in what people find comfortable, and ties into the "it depends" answer. Different strokes for different folks, but just gotta send it at the end of the day. Good video and discussion overall 👍

[@warrenharrison9490]

Some individuals have a neck, some have no neck. Being able to adjust is a bonus.

[@donkideck7180]

asain people are known for having huge flat faces

[@smokingbeetles5793]

Mr Potato head got problems

[@gleamtarrest6310]

Gee Wizz😮 next, I missed because of my face shape or maybe structure or probably cause I didn't cross my toes.

[@ghijkl]

I wish we could still admit different races look different. Oakley used to have “asian fit” sunglasses which I bought because stupid white ppl sunglasses fall off my damn nose. True story

[@d3adlyz3bra]

ive always been told cqb for HOB you just make them wear the reticle as a hat

[@dylanturley7291]

100%

[@1GruntZPOV]

I’ve run everything from 1.54 to 2.26, it doesn’t matter. Get whatever you like and is comfortable for you. Go train and learn your holdovers. I think for me personally I just raise the rifle slightly in my shoulder and achieve whatever shooting stance I need to be “comfortable”

[@wolf1562]

This was really good and one of the best I've seen show shooting the different mount heights and their height over bore

[@joseesparza4133]

Loved this one Mojo. Perfect timing also. Thank you!

[@j.r.hornak460]

No two people are alike and many forget this. I prefer my optics high enough to where I don't have to stretch or scrunch my neck. After that if I need cheekweld, a cheekpiece can always be added if needed. If people don't like the look, I'm ok with that. They can go admire their wall hangers at home while I train to be the best I can be.

[@anthonyandrade001]

Training is what matters. Any time my guns go up, my eyes are already on sight. I went from cowitness to 2.26 and love it, I have standard sights with a FSB/rear sight and magpul pros front and rear

[@andrewvalenta7320]

I absolutely look forward to MOJO videos more than anyone else on KZbin. Stay up Mojo

[@josephgeiger3285]

Great video! I’m newer to shooting AR’s but was in an accident and lost my right eye. The Unity and especially the GBRS Lerna with the 2.93 height made shooting from the right still possible by canting at a 45. Shooting left just sucks 😂.

[@rilesmattix5217]

I do that but because I'm cross eye dominant. I have a prism with a piggy backed red dot which I use to aim like that

[@imnnme]

Eye patches give you +150 intimidation points though. 👌🏼

[@Chonkasaurus]

If my optics not high enough for my buddy to aim from sitting on my shoulders its trash

[@aerowrench6787]

I run a T2 on top of a TA02 ACOG and its right at 3.125". I'm 6'6" and have a pretty tall neck so it actually works well for me. HOB is no issue at CQB distances. Just hold a wallet length high like you demonstrated. And i run it hard doing drills like the xray alpha CQB assesment drill. And the ACOG is at a great height for shooing prone/off barriers for longer shots. If possible you should give it a try sometime. Or try mine. I'm in the PNW lol

[@ericdoubleu5390]

Acog red got gang. I like it too. Also pnw ❤ I have a 509t on top works good for nv too

[@sameullam]

I think the point about use case and perspective is kinda spot on and important. If you're not to worried about height over bore and wanna try a new setup then id say no harm in trying it out (if you can afford it) But if you're runnning competions and stuff, I do not recommend this, since I've seen great shooters lose spots mainly because there's too many holds to worry in a match so they miss or take significantly longer to make their shots. Have fun, be safe. give a friend a hug.

[@majesticog9281]

Miss your content homie. Happy to see this!

[@rcnewman51.]

Threw my risers out, not against em but was definitely something I wanted to try. It’s great when you get used to it, however having to make critical shots at full throttle leave too much room for error in my eyes. In those instances I like having the reticle as an actual frame of reference to place on a persons face box

[@Echo_6-9]

I find that after using Unity 2.26’s to trying the GBRS 2.91, I like a 0.5-0.75 inch cheek riser for consistency and comfort. I like high mounts to help with neck strain pain more than anything.

[@albertptran]

Same

[@mikewithers299]

Good stuff Mojo. I might have to give this a try 😊

[@TheJbower76]

I like using standard cowitnessed mounts attached to a KDG sidelock. Gives roughly around a 2.26 height and gives you ability to remove one optic for another that is equipped with another sidelock riser. They are guaranteed to return to zero and they do!! I can have multiple optics zeroed for different ammo on the same rifle. So far I like it.

[@keithshelley717]

Good to hear from you brother always love the content

[@garrolmace]

Love the discussion fellas great video!!!

[@iahenley]

I am glad to see the variety in offerings coning out for carbines... I come from a competitive shotgun background, it is common to spend large amounts of time and money to get the right fit on a shotgun. Obviously with your eye serving as the "rear sight" repeatable and fast positioning of face and shoulder into stock is critical. 15 years ago there were minimal options to make a carbine "fit". Keep in mind not every setup will work well for every person, do tests and practice! Great video!

[@abrahamaman8260]

Keep up the great work brother!!

[@grahamblack4]

Good info MOJO. Thanks for the video

[@jimmyl7]

HOT TAKE: the optic height depends on the stocks cheek feel first. And also there are diminishing returns on the higher the mount.

[@american_patriot6218]

My favorite gun tube channel!!

[@Pompomgrenade]

Thanks for the thinking process.. for the first time I've had to conceptualize shooting while wearing a motorcycle helmet, requiring setup specific sights 😄 potentially...

[@bikeracerdude]

We'd love to see another video with good lighting and a short, organized summary of Pros & Cons of Mount Heights.

[@tiiiimmmmmm]

Super helpful video. Thanks mojo

[@FitVenture30]

Whoa nice set up Mojo! I’d love to see your truck and how you have that set up.

[@Ksweezy96]

I just got my Hydra for my 13.7 and the Ridge wallet reference was golden. Im out of the country atm so i havent shot it yet but damn is that helpful

[@Crangaso]

"Heads-Up" shooting is the new way to go & the best way with NGV - from my understanding. I don't have NVG (cue the sad horn music) and have no use nor need for the new way of shooting. I'm sticking with what I know and am experienced/comfortable with. That can all change if/when I acquire NVG & train in heads up shooting or I get a thermal optic for my rifle, going with a NVG monocular for movement.

[@mnaanep]

great content....i use the high mount on my rifle because I went blind in my right eye and I shoot right so the high mount lets me use my good eye when shooting with the m4.

[@JJGuccione]

Great VDO - Thank You

[@gryphon3241]

I "grew up" with absolute cowitness and lower 1/3rd, and as a dirty civilian shooter never really saw the need to go taller as i don't have to worry about nods or whatnot. Until i tried a 1.93, I'm a taller dude with a relatively long neck proportionally to my body so the taller mounts just make it so much easier to reliably acquire the dot because i don't have to scrunch up as hard

[@10r80g]

Bro this is awesome. I couldn’t see myself spending $100-150 for a damn riser! Thank you!!

[@InGratitudeIam]

This was helpful. Thanks!

[@TehPh1L]

Hey mojo, how do like the flip to center mount 8:22 it seems like its blocking abit of the view there, or was it not all the way down? anyways I appreciate the videos! keep it up!

[@Night-Owl-]

I have an absolute mount for my dot on the ultimak for my ak. Before when i had my sam7k and in line mounted brace it was perfer. I got the mount so i can still see my dot while using my light since i have a modbutton. So i basically accidentally found that i like taller mounts. Now that i have a 103 with the same stuff it sits a little higher but im still happy with it. I have a feeling once i do a jmac m4 stock adaptor and eventual eotech with magnifier on some side rail mount ill still have a nice height. For my ar im pretty sure ill go with a taller mount for the ta02 when i do get that rifle built out.

[@KretinD]

I like 1.93-2.06 for just a red dot and lower 1/3 for use with magnifiers. Anything above 2.26 sounds like it would take some getting used to.

[@dmoo19]

Something that isn't talked about enough is how different zeros work better at different sight heights. With a lower sight, I prefer a 50/200, but I like to do a 100 yard zero on the higher mounts.

[@seanoneil277]

Is that for the offset question (holdovers), or the trajectory issue? I'm guessing holdovers.

[@JayJay-qi9pk]

Best red dot zero is 36 yards tho

[@dmoo19]

@@seanoneil277 Yeah, typically my higher sights are on my shorter, "CQB" types. This way, I know my point of impact will be at or below my dot only(approximately). The higher optic starts with a 4" deviation from the dot at 0 already. For a more general purpose build, i will use a lower height sight and use the 50/200 because it's only a 4"ish spread from 0-250ish.

[@seanoneil277]

@@dmoo19 Yeah to me it's that 4" tube factor that argues for the 50 or even 36. But if you can neglect the close in stuff the 100 is easier out past 250/300. I wrestle with this question for my secondary red dot on rifles, holdover issue, or trajectory tube.

[@bigz5262]

@@JayJay-qi9pk it depends on your setup. If you zero a taller mount at 36 then at 100 you’ll be at least 6” high at 100, depending on your barrel length and ammo selection

[@jessesmith5932]

Love ya mojo! Keep it up bruh! WA Reppin

[@springbloom5940]

I have a red dot fully cowitnessed with a A2 sight chopped off a carry handle and A-frame front sight. I cut the large aperture off the off the rear so it will flip down flat and clear view the optic. The optic puts a red dot on the tip of the front sight as an aid for the iron, not as a substitute. Everyone has their cool flip up backup sights that they never use and will fail them when they're needed. Im *always* using the iron, with the red dot aid. The result is Im almost as quick with iron as I am with glass and pinpoint accurate. Iron *always* works and is predictable as the sun, even if its misaligned or bent.

[@jeremyfoss505]

I'm an AK guy......But I like that approach dude! Props!

[@onpsxmember]

If you want to talk about heights and you know that based on the optics you end up with different heights with the same mount, bring a measuring stick. I'm not looking for a specific number since everyone's face is different but it makes the optic height comparable. If certain heights stink going prone you could test that for your audience.

[@iCodinee]

Anyone else feel like a kid on christmas every time mojo posts?

[@briancunningham5011]

Mojo and Brian are absolute Ninjas.. hope they're on my team if/when the time ever arises.

[@rm4googol930]

How does your zero’s work when going to different optic heights. What was yours when you used the 1.93? I’m going to be going with the scalarworks 1.93 and I think a 36 yard zero. But some say to go with a further zero the higher your optic sits?

[@ds5503]

I recently made the switch to 2.26". So much better for me. I'm a Sasquatch, so the height works better for my freakishly long neck. Plus, arthritis and herniated disc. Height is many much more comfortable meow. Liked. Subscribed.

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

I prefer the 193 or a bit lower. Given that, I hate flip-to-side magnifiers. Because of this, and only because of this, I’m running a 226 unity on my main rifle. It’s higher than I prefer but it allows for a flip-to-center magnifier.

[@liamflanagan490]

Get a cheek riser for your stock so you maintain that same optic height to stock height ratio with the flip to center magnifier.

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

@@liamflanagan490 I shoot it fine and am comfortable finding a good solid position behind the optic. However it makes the rifle have a pretty big vertical foot print above the pic rail and it has a heck of a hold over that is not only greater than all of my guns but it persists at a greater distance than a lower mount. I also am not fond of the impact on bullet impacts at ranges (there is a good video out there but I forget who put it out). Like I said, I shoot it fine but if someone comes out with a flip-to-center that is lower I’ll probably adopt it.

[@J.Young808]

@@mavrikmavrik3032yes it seems a 1.93” flip to center compatible magnifier mount would be ideal. Wonder if the EOTech G33 is small enough in diameter to work.

[@Quazo594]

@@J.Young808that’s a really good question. Would love to hear from someone that tries it.

[@rm4googol930]

@@J.Young808I would love if they could do that. But with the 2.26 unity the magnifiers sit incredibly close to red dot window. I think with a 1.93 most magnifiers would partially cover the optic window. But I would like to see them make one cause I prefer 1.93 too.

[@whomagoose6897]

You demonstrated optic height of optics for AR-15 systems. There are lots of non AR-15 systems in the intermediate sized rifle grouping. One of which is the Robinson Arms XCR-L rifle. The XCR-L is in the AR class size of rifles. It is well know to use low mounts. In other words, if it works on the H&K MP-5. You can use that particular mount on the XCR-L. Low is the way to go.

[@MiaogisTeas]

Make your own damn video then, Captain Special.

[@NavyCop330]

What zero are you using for your high mounted optics?

[@ibeemeeintp3033]

Im intrigued..... I think I'll purchase one just to see if it's advantageous for me.

[@IntenseSpirit]

Opinions on the MDT Sky High mount?

[@j.r.romero590]

Biggest issues I have with GBRS mount is shooting through holes in barriers and prone making the mount too much of a gimmick

[@XSV15]

But realistically, apart from the range or competitions, when are we shooting through holes like those barriers outside of a combat zone? The average civilian or law enforcement guy is gonna be engaging out in the open or behind cover that they’re peaking around rather than shooting through per se. Not dismissing your statement, I just think it’s just a matter of usage. If you’re into competitions where you’ll be doing barrier and prone work, the GBRS mount is probably not going to work very well for you.

[@j.r.romero590]

If you are setting up a rifle why would you hamper your ability in life and death situation? To dismiss shooting from certain positions is a poor way to enter a gun fight. @@XSV15

[@kentchristen6048]

I use a 1.9ish" mount now, because anything lower means I'm looking over the top of my glasses when I shoot. I kinda need them to see everything clearly.

[@JDangly]

YMMV. I find that lower 1/3 is the sweet spot for my body type. I feel like I have the best stability using my cheek on the stock with that height. The higher the optic the more wobbly the gun feels. I think it's very subjective though and every shooter is built unique.

[@Xinthisis]

Something that works really well for me is having a 1.54 mounted LPVO with a top mouted micro dot like the 509T or ACRO. The top dot ends up being at that height you love and the magnified optic is at that perfect height to really settle into the gun. A .25 cheek riser makes chin weld for the top dot perfect while also improving stability with the lpvo.

[@TCraig00]

I'm looking at a similar build for my next AR. 14.5, 2-10 LPVO at around a 1.54 and 12 o clock mount for a holosun. I also run a .5 riser on my PWS MK111

[@seanoneil277]

I tried that high mount RDS with a PEPR mount and P4Xi, it didn't work for me as well as the 45deg offset does. I can rotate quicker to the dot than I can raise up and find the dot. I spent about equal time with both. I don't work LE or Mil or contract so I don't have the gas mask, NV, etc things to work around, that plays a part in not liking the higher mount I'm sure. Prone is another.

[@Xinthisis]

@@seanoneil277 thats what the cheek riser helps with.

[@charlesludwig9173]

For sure the height must support a good stock weld to anchor sight alignment whereby the eyeball is centered to the eyepiece. If this condition is not met then parallax will be an issue.

[@luisayala7861]

Great video, wish you would have covered the prone position with the mount heights since that is the biggest concern for people running high mounts.

[@ansonhuang2138]

@milspec_mojo at the 4:30 mark... how in the world did you get the Scalarworks mount to screw onto the cursed GHM9 rail that has the upper receiver square overhang (i.e not enough clearance!?). Had to ditch mine for a Unity FAST with diff red dot. Still wish it worked.😢

[@josediaz1719]

What zero are you using for 2.26 and that higher gbrs? Had a 36yd before but found my hold overs were quite wide as far as poi box. Thanks

[@PASS55555]

Legit quaity content please never stop

[@kevinjohnson3925]

How does this change your zero distance?

[@stephanarizona9094]

I'm a huge fan of high mounts, all my weapons are SBR's or PDW's with lasers, so high mounts make it easy and smooth.

[@seanoneil277]

I could see getting used to it for close distance, to be always heads-up. But I can't do prone with anything above 1.6 or so. Neck starts complaining very fast, adds quiver to what should be a settled reticle. The chin weld works okay for square, oval, round faces. If your face tapers a lot from cheekbone to jaw, the higher it goes the more awkward it feels.

[@Conan361]

So you’re gay and shoot no further than 25’ got it

[@mattmurphy7030]

@@Conan361i shoot SBRs out to 500 no problem. Sounds like you’ve got a skill issue

[@Conan361]

@@mattmurphy7030 where did I once type anything about sbrs were talking optic height genius

[@mattmurphy7030]

@@Conan361 wtf does optic height have to do with shooting to distance? Do you have any idea how trigonometry works?

[@BuckF0eJiden]

Mechanical offset in 5.56 really only has a significant impact in CQB. You CAN do some really interesting things with your zero on a high mounted optic, though. I run a top dot on my SPR, at +4.5" over bore, with mk262 in a 20" barrel, i run a 75 yd zero. The point of aim to point of impact with that zero out to 300 is incredibly flat.

[@muzien87]

as a right handed guy who is left eye dominant, your video convinced me to try the high risers, if i can jsut dig my face in a little more to still use my left eye while firing right handed that would be amazing because i wear glasses and my right eye is total TRASH, i cannot rely on it for shooting at all what so ever.

[@GeorgeeeW]

You should base what hand you shoot woth based on your dominant eye. You can learn to shoot with either hand but your right eye will always be more dominant

[@kenforbus1]

If you like it and it works for you go for it. I think it's actually an answer to the mask/NODS thing but other than that it's not an issue for me. Neck strain and so forth is a non-issue. How long of a string of fire are you guys shooting to have neck strain issues?

[@user-kx9jc5re1t]

I think it comes into play when you are spending long hours on the gun especially doing door kicking stuff.... In my civilian life it hasn't been an issue lol

[@petem2286]

This seems like a lot of work. I’m not knocking it. If I was rich maybe I’d give it a shot. Whatever floats your boat. Mojo is the man.

[@Sinsofcarolina]

You can buy all these hyped up mounts for $25-$50 online. Perfect replicas

[@jw5297]

Thanks Mojo

[@tlee1982]

I enjoy using the 1.93 and 2.26.

[@venomgt7299]

I wonder if you can test the actaual bdc optics differences between a 1.57 mount vs 1.93 mount. I know my optic is set at a 100yd zero from 16" barrel with 62gr round with a lower 1/3 mount. I wonder how drastic the holdovers will be with a 1.93 mount at 100, 200 and beyond?

[@Dillpickles719]

I personally have a very small head to were my earpro while covering my ears the bottom is about level with my chin so if I put my buttock to my chin it feels like it is pulling my earpro off when shooting and I have to sink my head down to get on the dot. So higher mounts definitely help with that and I don’t have to worry about losing my hearing

[@seanoneil277]

Depending on your ear shape and head shape, you might be able to take your ear pro and rotate them forward a bit. Move the headband toward your forehead. I angle mine about 30-40 deg forward and it helps prevent the stock's comb from pushing the earmuff off my ear.

[@zimbo9087]

Can you do a break down of your pistol draw from level 3 and from concealment?

[@tylergarrett4498]

A leupold 5/8s supporting a unity comp m4 mount gets me a perfect rear of the jaw weld. I think it comes out to about 2 3/4 roughly.

[@zestaff]

Just a thought... On an AK with the Obzor (spelling?) sight .. sort of the same? I like it alot.

[@l.robertvandyke4398]

Thanks

[@ryansnow2116]

I liked the mil-spec mustache

[@cbboiii1100]

3:58 That was a clean transition

[@quadproductions3026]

I only have one left eye and I’m right handed so a high mouth really helps

[@Jaynick1977]

I struggled a bit in shooting my Unity mounted optic while prone. Do you think a 1" or .75" cheek riser would improve that situation?

[@IlovemySubaru]

Mojo there something different about in this video that I couldn’t figure out, but I just did. It’s the mustache homie. You look 20 bro

[@seanoneil277]

Good review, Mojo. Would you still like the higher rise if you didn't have gas mask and NV things to accommodate? I haven't seen many people running higher rise in PCC category in USPSA, and that's all CQB distance speed and efficiency in play. Nobody's having to accommodate chest plates, helmet, NV, gas mask though. So they can make it as ergo as possible. Maybe they're slow to change? I have a hard time running higher than 1.5 - 1.6, though I've tried. I find too low (direct to pic rail) easier to work with than higher.

[@warrenharrison9490]

Physical build is a factor. I have a very long neck, where someone with no neck and I would feel different on a platform with high or low mounts. The blessing that we aren't stuck with having to have a wooden stock carved to our individual builds.

[@seanoneil277]

@@warrenharrison9490 You should study ergonomic data banks, see how much real range of neck length there is. It's not significant enough to change things as you suggest. The only reason for higher mounts is simple ---> you want to run the rifle lower on your torso, relative to your face. And the only reason to do that is a helmet with gas mask and NV, and a plate carrier blocking your torso. Rifles are designed to be run a certain way. If the intent of the AR design were to be run lower on the torso, the stock to receiver apparatus would look much different. Rather than change the rear of the rifle, people have used higher mounts. That's really all this is. And I would still encourage all the "high mount" lovers to spend some time shooting prone with their "heads up" mount and see how their neck likes the position. Do you really want to have to switch to your handgun when you have to be prone, and give up all that range accuracy and stopping power?

[@bradmilks1058]

Depends on nightvison setup

[@Frostbyt181]

I agree, it's all about what's works for you. I always love your contents Mojo! Keep it up! Pinoy pride!!! 👍👍

[@Excalibur01]

Carry handle red dot has been my favorite height

[@mrtaylorhelm]

Imho the problems with high risers isn't the hold over, its the hold under when you get to 100-200yrds for these guys running 36yrd zeros or 25"ish" backyard zeros. The point remains, get out and use the gear.

[@JG_1998]

I use a scalarworks 1.93 for my T2. So much faster and more comfortable than a lower 1/3rd.

[@MidnightRangersPB]

I also bought a Scalarworks 1.93 for my patrol rifle due to the comfortable height, but then I realized there’s no cowitness at all with standard irons. You know of any solutions to this besides cheap risers for the irons, or the Scalarworks folding irons?

[@JG_1998]

there really aren't any, only thing is that aimpoints are so damn reliable it's highly unlikely you will need irons. and the scalarworks QD mount makes it easy to take off in case of emergency. But it is still one of the trade offs of using a higher mount. @@MidnightRangersPB

[@albertptran]

I notice that I’m slow when tilting my head down to a low mount and also slow compensating for height over bore with a high mount. Less neck fatigue with a high mount though

[@michaels5210]

Only reason I run a 2.26 is cuz they don’t make a flip to center magnifier for 1.93. That being said shooting someone else’s rifle with like a lower third or even absolute height optic feels uncomfortable, especially with over-ear ear protection/comms.

[@dofler]

How is that super high optic heighr gonna work out for you in prone position?

[@Bucky69]

The arisaka 1.70 mount make most of holosun red dots sit really close to 1.93

[@Bender_B._Rodriguez]

Good to know people are actually addressing this because holosun sits different than a T1

[@not_your_business666]

Omg lol, I didn't realize that. I just measured my holosun + arisaka 2.26 mount and it sits at about 2.5, and honestly I don't wanna go any lower. Now I need to figure the height of romeo4xt pro before I buy it.

[@whiplash5026]

I use a ir unit with night vision so ya I need a high ass riser to clear my c clamp grip . I need it to use my rifle the way I want to.

[@Subdado]

Damn bruh. That test hittin them vocal chords. Turning them Multicam black. 😂

[@platinumcontent9]

As it possible to run NVG's with the Lerna, and a magnifier?

[@thenricks5063]

Going prone is what kills high risers for me. I don’t go prone often but in the case I need to go prone, I don’t wanna have to crank my neck up high when I want to be flat.

[@RandomWrongDeletion]

I’ve always been a low mount kinda guy, but I’m gonna buy Slade’s OTT when it drops in Jan and try that out.

[@mattbiek]

Love my Scalar 1.93s

[@gtcam723]

It would be cool to see how these line up with the 36yd and 50yd zero distances. I could see there being slight adjustments in those distances. Also, I decided I’m going to start by trying an airsoft version of the Unity. If I like it, I’ll buy a real one if I don’t, only out $30 lol

[@user-kx9jc5re1t]

Actually height over bore changes the way your rifle zero distance is affected.... If you use the (free) Hornady ballistic calculator it has inputs for zero distance and HOB. It is easy to then select a zero distance that provides what you are looking for. I run a 25 yard zero on my 10.5" blackout to be point and shoot out to 250-300 yards. On my 12.5" 556 I use a 36 yard zero which is point and shoot out to 300 yards.. The zero is the same I use on my 16" rifles with a standard HOB because the HOB triangle helps the 12.5" rainbow trajectory make it to 300.

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@@user-kx9jc5re1t yeah I figured it would. Because it’s obvious to me that a 1.93 or 2.26 can’t use the same zero and get the same results. It’s going to have a sharper arcing “rainbow” as it were. I’m just wondering how much. Once I can find a place to test, I’ll have to try it out.

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Once I tried 2.26 I won't go back to 1/3 lower as I used to. Its simply much much more forgiving for my neck and shoulder. And even 2 .26 is not yet chin weld for me(got a lonnnng neck)

[@240sxdriver]

Ran into your buddy Angel at a tint shop. Small world! Hope you're doing well handsome man!