Milwaukee 8 Softail 2 into 1 Exhaust Shootout!

[@floridabowhunter]

S&S 1:22 Rinehart 2:09 Cobra 3:01 V&H 4:25 timestamps for the soundclips of all the pipes.

[@mikew.197]

Vance and Hines was by FAR the best sounding!

[@phillipalarcon4468]

Yes I agree

[@jonnymac8925]

I have one of these new stainless 2-1 on my 48 and got rid of my short shots. They sound incredible and they absolutely create some good power for a pipe!

[@del_619]

Vance and Hines have had the vest sound for pipes for a long time I would say the closest other pipe you could get is a tbr

[@infiniteg7852]

What about Rine Hart?

[@akinzenyalta3556]

Yes but no passenger pegs thats biig zero

[@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234]

Cobra for looks, V&H for sound.

[@danielbarber2677]

$836 for the S&S exhaust?! Watching this in early '22 (not even two years later) and that exhaust now retails for $1,450. W... T...

[@TeensierPython]

Yeah. What a bummer.

[@austindugas57]

Absolutely wild. $800 for the V&H now $1,300+. A fixed money supply would treat Americans well.

[@droptine12]

Holler at Joe Biden 😤

[@Idgafboutyofeelins]

Yeah and V&H for right @ 800? Nah more like 1200-1400🤣

[@reddog907]

Cobra sounded the best and looks great.

[@jeff-le1tp]

Cobra by far. Dyno comparisons would be cool......

[@ABud12921]

Vance & Hines all the way! Love my pro-pipe on my 13model RG! Sounds awesome!

[@freedom6919741]

V&H for the win as usual ! Running the Pro Pipe in my M8 124 build. It sounds and performs awesome. In fact I have never owned a Bike that didn’t have V&H exhaust.

[@ballstud2007]

Hated this pipe

[@crispy2429]

@@ballstud2007why did you hate it

[@nate5887]

Bought the V&H, best look and sound in my opinion. Is almost $1100 now, gnarly inflation hikes

[@matts.1758]

Great video. Would’ve been nice to see TBR and Bassani thrown in there too

[@robertpolkamp]

TBR doesn't have adequate shields so do not pass your local burn unit.

[@matthewguest4361]

I have the black carbon tip TBR 2in1 on my 2018 StreetBob since new and it sounds unreal and looks and goes great. I've also had no dramas with any rust or corrosion as it still looks brand new out the factory

[@drifterawh]

@@robertpolkamp Back in the day there was no such thing as heat shields

[@gnd111]

@@drifterawh And?

[@irf888]

Hi. Excellent video, thanks for making it. I watched the install videos of each and is it true the only option to preserve the rear foot peg is the Cobra? Regards.

[@foodformen3170]

SOUND SOUND SOUND, what about performance? Do you have a comparison of dyno runs? I am not a big fan of 2-1 LOOKS, but I have been very impressed with the performance of my old ThunderHeader, I would be interested in another 2-1 based on performance.

[@fmanion24]

Harley guys aren't into power I guess.🤷‍♂️

[@ronaldlsmith1]

It's how your eng is built

[@fmanion24]

@@ronaldlsmith1 no. If you have a collector you'll make more power on any engine. According to Smokey Yunick; but what does he know....

[@MarvFitBikesKicks]

They need to come out with a black version of the Vance & Hines

[@dynaordie8083]

Vance n hinze all the way. Looked and sounded best by far. The other 3 all sounded identical

[@paulson9616]

I live in California so I decided to go with a S&S this time around to be safe....

[@isnull_or_empty]

I have that V&H on my 2020 Low Rider S and it sounds mean.

[@ShaunPPatterson]

Dont have a Harley yet, but I'm saving for a Low rider s and I came into this video liking Cobra pipes, but it seems Rinehart has that extra low growl over the cobra. I'm going to be dreaming of riding tonight lol.

[@webbsteroni]

Have you gotten the FXLRS yet??

[@03Grunt-arrino]

Somebody commented in another video, that 2-1’s sound like bi-planes on an M8… Now that all I can hear haha. Thanks for posting all these sound clips though

[@jamesmac4447]

What about the high flow Vance and Hines 2into 1 pcx? They have a long pipe and a short version?

[@vbadbee9123]

18 low rider, fab28!! Sounds good looks amazing. Made really good power on the dyno with a harley power cam!

[@Scarmo21]

Fab28 on my '19 roadster and '21 fxbbs is 🔥🔥🔥

[@koonsickgreen6272]

Any info on which is least loudest?

[@secaII]

V&H on my sportster. It’s so freaking loud. Was difficult to install and burns everything; clothes, boots, etc.

[@ronaldkline3010]

19' FXFBS: I added the Cobra last year (regularly on sale at your site for less than 600), along with the x-lrg K&N filter and V&H FP3. 2k miles later I replaced the cam with S&S 475c and pipe sounds incredible loud, bike runs amazing and you guys post the BEST videos!

[@jjs8046]

Have you dynoed it?

[@ronaldkline3010]

@@jjs8046 yes, I think it would have better numbers and the small flat dip between 2500-3300 would be less with a "long" pipe. He dyno with pv to 111hp 123tq. Lot of cams as good or better since I bought and def some 2-1 short pipes that give better performance. But it has been very reliable, so I'm pleased with the combo. good ridin to ya...

[@mixalis6168]

D&D, Burns far better than them all !!

[@WilliamCrothers-e9q]

That V&H 🦁 roars:)

[@dkelli6020]

Loved it. Any chance of a V&H Pro Street install and sound check?

[@VN9001]

That Vance & Hines is just plain wicked sounding! 🤤

[@King_Moose]

wish it came in black though!

[@brian833]

Hi Here in august 2023 I'm having trouble confirming the Rienhart 2-1 fits my 2019 Sport Glide 107ci. Any thoughts??

[@charliepoodle5151]

Sound is subjective ( much like we all like different music) so everyone has a favourite. For me the best exhaust (2:1) is missing from this line up….and that’s the Bassani road rage 2

[@ozzie444]

This wasn't a shoot-out. It was a comparison. J&P would never do a real shoot-out cuz they would get crossed with the other three manufacturers that didn't come in as #1 on the dyno. Used to be 15-20 years ago that magazines and publishers used to do unbiased and fair tests to see which carb, exhaust system, cams etc. gave the best performance. Those days are long gone.

[@kristianestby1510]

I did come here looking for dyno numbers

[@eddiealig2532]

My low rider st came stock with a heavy breather. Do I need a tune after installing a full exhaust?

[@305RMC]

I have a cobra el Diablo. Love the sound in person

[@biendeberroa927]

Is it too loud?

[@mikebronc2902]

@@biendeberroa927 they aren't loud at all. I just installed mine on my Dyna. Idle they're low and rumbly. They get a nice crack when you open it up

[@TheLegendOfTheGingerbreadMan]

So witch one would be better for the 2021 street bob 114

[@michaeljoseph9881]

How much stuff do I have to change when I switch over to that exhaust I have to change 02 sensors programming and all that no balance off my maps and all that do I have to do all that or could I just put it out and have a nice day

[@chrishunter5041]

Could you do the same comparison for Indian 111 models

[@madmindedmyzer]

He seemed uninterested with the Rinehart with the shortest description.

[@ShapHaque]

Does the Cobra exhaust system accept Wideband sensors?

[@karthavya1440]

Does anyone know the sound decibel output for each of these Exhausts?

[@asqrss3233]

I just put on the S&S on my 114 2020 Heritage, Let's see what happens in the next few weeks. Hopefully we can get a better sound

[@joecro1453]

So do you like it ?

[@asqrss3233]

Can't really say that I do just yet since I just got it late fall and didn't had enough time to ride but, it sounds better than the stock pipes. I hope to be able to ride a lot this coming season

[@mikeessary4925]

Please let us listen to bikes at idle alittle longer before revving. Otherwise nicely done.

[@BucketWheat]

Wish you could have done a Dyno comparison... for which one actually adds performance... After all, you state, "...looking for a performance upgrade..." (smile)

[@claritin62]

Great pipes no matter which one you choose!

[@billhamilton6819]

Agreed. I like that we get to hear the exhaust. I wish he went into HP and TQ specs over stock.

[@terriwinn6806]

V&H , Rine, Cobra, SS , in that order by sound

[@joyshreemondal5160]

Hey will all of these exhaust work with Harley Davidson Breakout ?

[@GiancarloFloyd]

I have the s&s it’s bad ass I I like it a lot l, the only thing i hate is the ugly brake pedal you have to get if you have mid controls.

[@dawidos117]

V&H! Hell yeah 🤘🏻

[@clubstyleridahd4695]

s&s race version! Cobra looks cool though

[@kmwalsh84]

That Vance and Hines is amazing . What tuner would I need to purchase with it? What air sucker ? I got a 2020 softtail slim ,Thanks .

[@kevinflanders8694]

Vance and Hines FP3. Can't go wrong

[@kerrythompson533]

Power vision!

[@barackblows1942]

SE if you want to keep your warranty.

[@kyleaskew3377]

Are you running them with a tuner ?

[@andrewparsons9804]

I like the freedom pipes I'm surprised there not on the list. I'm a fan of reinhart

[@Elmuchacho17]

What did you think of the rinehart?

[@kathleenblumenthal493]

Can you do a D&D Pipe for comparison?

[@jmoore8406]

Anyone know what intake is installed on this bike?

[@chasingtheLord96]

I bought my 2019 fxbb and it came with short shots. Can’t decide between cobra or the Vance and Hines upsweep

[@jonnymac8925]

I got the upsweep on my Sporty and it is the best exhaust I have ever ran! I absolutely can't get enough of it!

[@elibrady2407]

Patrick, you rock!

[@marquitomerkkks2033]

What’s the performance benefits between a 2-1 exhaust system and a muffler?

[@ldcrallye]

looking at the specs on the S&S site, this one increases the torque, and that is what you want. you have the same torque at lower rpm or more torque at any given rpm. I run currently a stock Sport Glide and I hunt BMW GS in the mountains with my torque. I can lean less in the corners, but I compensate with good aiming and torque. I would choose the S&S as torque beats noise (on the long run). The volume of an exhaust body is an indicator how low you can get the tone.

[@cooksventures]

Are you asking the difference between 2 into 1 and 2 into 2? If so, 2 into 1 helps extract the exhaust better and provides the back pressure to increase performance beyond that of a 2 into 2, both horse power and torque. It really helps responsiveness too.

[@locoocho2415]

Is your Vance & Hines legal in California? Because it goes slightly up is it in the way of passenger foot pegs?

[@jpcycles]

This particular pipe is not available in CA. The passenger peg clears the pipe no problem.

[@LudwigOtavan]

V&h 2in 1 how can i buy i'm here in philippines

[@GenSparks]

The Rinehart stole my hart :D

[@locoocho2415]

Is the Diablo Cobra legal in California?

[@lorenzovirgillito9523]

Which one is the most powerful??

[@millertime8835]

D&D beats them all!

[@hughsnyder891]

Right ! So looks and sound doesn’t always equate to performance. Actually could harm performance if not tuned correctly. D&D does have a track of outperforming other brands . For example Zippers Performance recommends them and includes them in their Harley performance kits .

[@ronthehammer]

Cobra surprised me

[@montha123]

Cobra el Diablo for the win

[@charleyrider9775]

I have a 2020 Lowrider S with the 131 coming for it. What exhaust system would you recommend?

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

None of these. They are all too small for optimum flow. You want bigger stepped primaries with a race inspired merge collector and a flow to match muff. I have the S&S for a 116HP 114ci. But a 150HP 131ci wants a bigger better pipe. Thrashin, Horsepower Inc, D&D, and shortly Fuel Moto Jackpot Riot, for big displacement, power, softails.

[@charleyrider9775]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 I am using the Vance and Hines Pro-pipe and I am quite happy with the results. Sounds good to me and has more than enough performance for my needs.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

@@charleyrider9775 What did it dyno? You might say the stock 114 was more than enough for your needs. Why pay for 12 bananas to take home 10?

[@charleyrider9775]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 134 hp & 142 tq.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

@@charleyrider9775 Bet she is fun. 👍 Not saying the pipe alone would have delivered another 16 HP. Fuel Moto has about 50 dyno charts on their website 124/128s that made 150/150 give or take. (plus a few who’s combo shorted them a bit) Great time to be a HD owner.

[@mkb3580]

Why no “T” header?…by far the best

[@robertdavis5495]

Fuel Moto is bang for the buck!!

[@gdubbsmotolife9713]

Love my v&h 2into1 hi-output shorty.

[@jonnymac8925]

Hell yah! Like i said in some other posts, I have the new stainless 2-1 on my Sporty and it is incredible in looks, power and sound!

[@atrain882]

Where do I buy this SNS pipe does not have it on their website

[@jpcycles]

What bike do you have? The one in the video is here www.jpcycles.com/product/57832/s-s-cycle-50-state-legal-superstreet-2-into-1-exhaust-system

[@DeBa1226]

Scrap compliance. V&H is thee only way to go.

[@billbright1755]

Be cool to set up a same configuration and displacement but in a two stroke. Basically the same look but no push rod tubes. Lots of close cooling fins. A two stroke is always in new oil. Sure be a unique sound from V twin. I think an electrical cut out valve at pipe Y for when you want some rumble. Make it so it doesn’t look like its there. Mild to wild with a button on the bars.

[@danpeoples1000]

More of a "Sound off" than a "Shootout", next time put them all on a dyno, That said, I have the V&H on my 2020 LRS, Awesome pipe.

[@massimoguaglio5248]

Where is the TBR??? This is the best💪😎

[@massimoguaglio5248]

@@TheTightSqueeze the same for me on my low rider s 114😎

[@Bruno-my9uf]

Thank you good go . you gas the bob. 114 like a man !!! That is tha way haa ahaa i like it !!!

[@TheRooster1122]

Vance & Hines hands down!!!!

[@fatboy5994]

Vancen Hines La # 1 Mi Favorita

[@vk2icj]

Do all of these allow you to keep your passenger pegs?

[@jpcycles]

Yes there is a passenger peg option on all of them.

[@THEPAINOFITALL]

Cobra 🐍

[@jasonpavicich4868]

rb racing beats em all for sound and performance shame no one shows em off

[@infiniteg7852]

RineHart is the Best

[@amphibdriver1]

Vance and Hines had the best sound.

[@marcusdrew5713]

vance and hines all the way!

[@valerizhbanov482]

Спасибо за обзор. Интересно.

[@lyndonhubbard3255]

wow now u need to make it sound like a harley

[@deanwinchester119]

V&H all day!

[@rebelscout423]

“You California people get to make the same horsepower all of us make”. 😂 I see what you did there. 😂🤙🏼

[@bruceprigge5212]

Thanks! :)

[@gucci4871]

Thanks

[@chevyon37s]

Can’t have a 2-1 comparison

[@porkchopspapi5757]

V & H was the only one that sounded like a Harley. The others sounded weak & anemic.

[@biggin3863]

Vance and Hines

[@drengrofgames3107]

everything m8 sounds the same to me

[@CactusJack252]

Put them on a dyno

[@kevinwarwick1292]

Paid 250 for a dan moto and its AWESOME.

[@mikebronc2902]

No its not. Those pipes are crap

[@vmotobiker]

S&S all the way.....

[@ttjbiggunner2025]

I'm very upset in this video you say all of these are ready for the wind band O2 sensors I ordered the cobra exhaust and they are not wideband accessible you need to fix this mistake remove it from your video please

[@golddigger386]

Its not a shootout without a D&D Billet Cat

[@itylerstewart]

Fab28 >>>

[@19Trent69]

Disappointed.... was suppose to be a shootout ?? Nothing but show and shine and sound. I’d preferred if it was a “shootout” of performance. Who cares what the pipe looks or sounds like. I want performance.

[@jpcycles]

Some of the manufacturer's list dyno #'s. The fact is that on a stock motor all these pipes will be within 3-4% of each other on rear wheel horsepower.

[@marcusmanzau5780]

Kesstech