Milwaukee's New High Torque Impact Wrench 2967 vs Everything

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Wow, guys. +20 subs in 40 minutes? Haha, I'm glad you guys like the new Gen 3. We do too

[@riba2233]

You deserve a lot more for doing such good tests!

[@tool.follower2813]

4k views when I hit play. Refreshed after finishing the video, up to 5.7k. Amazing having 1,7k other people watching this while I am.

[@tobyfuller3086]

Do you think those rubber parts may wear down overtime especially the ones down at the battery port? If so I hope they sell replacement rubber components for us to be able to replace them when needed

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@tobyfuller3086 I do not think so, there's not much friction going on.

[@macattack1392]

Really hope u try the forge battery on the gen 2 They say it's suppose to work. (Watching the disassemble 15:34 so hope it's after this

[@jozsefizsak]

I firmly believe that your channel is a significant driver of improvements in this field. I've seen the power of honest objective testing before, and of course, certain types of companies do not like it one bit. Maybe in this area, it's not too much of an issue, especially since you don't accept ads.

[@ac.creations]

Project Farm + Torque Test Channel collab when?

[@jayryia]

Hopefully it does, especially with that recent issue of the grease leaking from the new insider ratchet.

[@jamesbynum3123]

These videos certainly play a major role in my decision making process when buying tools.

[@Wtrxprs007able]

TTC definitely does have an effect on the manufacturers since they helped voice the whole H96B issues and with Milwaukee sending them a letter saying they'll fix the issues.

[@chevyinlinesix]

​@@jamesbynum3123same, I do not trust any tool manufactures specs, this testing right here is what I use to decide what to buy.

[@djosbun]

Ignoring the meat of this video for a moment: you guys really make every video wonderful to watch. The details, production quality and the funny-as-hell jokes are proof that you’re talented and intelligent.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Wow man, thanks! Appreciate that

[@joshuanoble334]

And here I am thinking Roger Ebert was dead.

[@benscott3603]

The humor is definitely Gen 3 on a forge

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

I’m glad it was worth all the hype. Milwaukee dropped the ball with the 2767 revision that was very short lived. I appreciate that their design team really took that failure and learned from it. Really appreciate your testing. Thanks for the videos.

[@nhibbs3]

How do I know if I have the shittier version of the 2767? I’ve owned it for like 3-4 years now

[@awrapper]

It’s been 6 plus years since the last generation came out!

[@MegaWillinator]

​@@nhibbs32767 serial number H96A is the good ones, H96B is the bad ones. Yours is old, its not an H96B.

[@samuelvanlane]

​@@nhibbs3the shitty version came out this last summer and only retailed for 2 months before getting a full recall it's is abbreviated by a B at the end of it's serial number.

[@jameskirk3]

That one poisoned MW for me. I went to the 40v Makita and am not turning back. It's a Cadillac. These highest effort guns are great, but the Makita is a pleasure to use. Save the carpal tunnel.

[@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg]

900 ft pounds on a small, single hand impact like that is.. crazy.

[@benchmark3332]

I think we are at the limit of 1/2

[@trailblazer632]

​@benchmark3332 i doubt it. These tools are jumping in small leaps but doing so regularly and consistently. Ill bet they see 1000ftlbs in like 3yrs

[@steffendetrick]

@@trailblazer632 I don’t think he was referring to if whether or not, they are capable of making 1/2” impacts more powerful. Of course, as technology improves they can but just because you can should you. Probably not. At this point these half inch impact are destroying sockets. At this point anything more powerful needs to be on a 3/4”.

[@trailblazer632]

@steffendetrick potentially. I would think 1000ftlbs would be the upper limit for most sockets in half inch. Though like anything we may see new metallurgy in sockets too. Right now it seems like the chromemolly is still doing ok but the chrome vanadium is reaching its ljmits. The problem is even in 3/4in 1000ftlbs is a lot. Hell even thr biggest 1in impacts are only really claiming about 1500ftlbs and realistically hitting 1100ftlbs consistently. Makes you wonder just how far things will climb.

[@solomonshv]

no, what's crazy is that this tool did not destroy that impact socket. my dcf900 EATS impact sockets

[@lyster1ne681]

So glad to hear that they increased the handle length, that’s my biggest problem with my 2767. Big hands + gloves + the mode button being exposed right under your hand means it’s constantly getting accidentally pressed during use. Hopefully that helps the issue.

[@steffendetrick]

Interesting I’ve never heard anybody actually say they’ve had that problem but that is Milwaukee’s official reason for extending the handle. Milwaukee said they had complaints from users accidentally hitting the buttons.

[@protoman247]

Can confirm accidental button presses with gloves on, on the 2767

[@lonzomarshalllll230]

Yea working under a semi trailer will cause the buttons to be changed accidentally lol...

[@JeremyBrightenburg]

That's crazy I never would've thought that but I've got small hands

[@Cweskos1]

Yes always hitting the button and rev/fwd switch almost everytime@@steffendetrick

[@tessierrr]

Stronger AND smaller, now thats an upgrade. Not just making it giant to cram bigger everything in 👍

[@jerth]

Stronger, smaller, AND higher build quality. This is what we like to see! It's worth buying just to encourage more of the same!

[@jayryia]

Today is a good day: TTC debuts the Gen 3 and same time I get a notification that my gen 3 is on the way.

[@Fuscao_Preto]

Finally, my red Boy is back.

[@chriskrause84]

961 dewalt destroys it lol

[@MaynardFixesEverything]

DcF 961 my guy

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

@@chriskrause84at close to twice the size and weight. Personally if I’m spending 350 beans on a tool. I need to be able to use it as much as possible. Not just brag about how much power it produces. While it’s always taking up real estate in my tool box. TTC said it himself the 961 is just a wired abnormally. Kinda like arm wrestlers with their 1 big arm lol

[@Bubuzizi]

I really like the fact that these guys don't accept tools from brands and buy them themselves, wish everyone did the same thing, this is the ONLY channel I watch for actual data.

[@tjtobin86]

I'm a yellow tool guy but I do love Milwaukee too. I'm excited to see when you get your hands on the 961!

[@gabehill9817]

I work as a light rail mechanic currently and the size difference is massive for me. More beans is always great, but that kind of beans while being smaller is exactly what the doctor ordered when you're underneath a train. Ordering mine today.

[@mediocreman2]

Well done Milwaukee. What's most impressive is that torque curve. Most of us rarely come across something that actually needs the tool maxed out. Most of what we're doing is in the first few seconds, and based on that torque curve, they're going to have some very happy customers.

[@swiftluss4272]

I agree 100%. The torque curve is insane plus its so compact. I work on cars a lot so this guy is going to come in handy.

[@lightjedi6]

It's been a minute since I've come to the channel but I saw that this new high torque existed (because I had two tools stolen from my work van) and immediately thought that I should see if you guys had a video yet or not. Super appreciate your work and effort put into this! You guys are friggin awesome! 😎👍

[@chazparker2488]

Sure I was sheering my nails off with my teefers, then celebrating its victory. We come for the reviews, but we stay for the production value, the commentary. I hope your channel and team grows larger then you could have ever imagined. Cheers.

[@JayRussellDuramax]

My hands get attacked by the shorter handle on the 2767. The Gen 3 model having a longer handle seems like a HUGE improvement to me.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

That's great, suspected it might benefit the bear claw folks. The larger handle does somewhat make your job of pushing against its own rotation a bit more effort, just due to the physics of it all

[@JayRussellDuramax]

@@TorqueTestChannel Yeah, I can understand that. However, based on how much the 2767 hurts my hand after extended usage, I think it'll be worth it. After tightening the the 32 lug nuts on my truck, the part of my hand that's up against the top of the battery receiver is really starting to hurt. Thank you for all of the great videos! I'm totally gonna order one of these now.

[@McAllisterCo]

You’re using a 2767 to put lug nuts on your duramax… Im afraid to ask what you tighten your drain plug with lol jokes aside you only need a 140 ftlb for the 8 lug duramax (directly from Chevy service manual) which the 2767 hits in under a second so if you’re using it long enough to make your hand hurt you’re doing it wrong. I don’t pull out the 2767 until I gotta remove rusty suspension parts. Remember you’re supposed to be able to remove you lugs in the field with nothing more than that shitty crowbar they give you from the factory.

[@DMSparky]

@@McAllisterCo lmao. Rip to the technician who has to take the tires off next time. Hopefully the studs don’t just sheer off. Thankfully the automotive engineers over time have realized that people like him exist and over engineer stuff. I do up lugs with my M12 3/8s then torque to spec. Even the m12 will get you close after a second or two. Edit: just rewatched the ttc m12 video, in forward it gets to 100Ft/lbs in 2 seconds flat.

[@RetiredEE]

@@TorqueTestChannel I wear 3xl gloves and can't wait to pick this up. I've been on the fence about a new tool for some time. This is the first one I've seen that makes me want to go out and pick one up this weekend. As an aside, for those of us who have a bunch of other tools from the same company, could you run a quick test of how this might perform with a smaller battery? Thinking of using some batteries from other tools as emergency spares to keep in the truck, should the high power batteries drain in cold weather (hint! refrigerator/freezer tests of batteries for tools kept in cold climates?) Thanks again for the great work.

[@ultraspeed7625]

Thanks for the in depth look into this tool. I'm set on getting one. I'm also interested in getting a DCF961 just to try some real world comparison testing. I have both battery platform but use Milwaukee 95%+ of the time. The Forge battery it's where its at, as far as im concerned (same as any stacked lithium).

[@jonathonsaavedra843]

Just bought one today, feel so good to see you speak so highly on what is probaly now my most expensive tool and first ever impact

[@802Garage]

You know Milwaukee had the enginerds working overtime to take back the throne! Seems they did a good job. I'm still on the DCF899. If I often worked on bigger stuff than cars, I'd probably be looking to upgrade. Good tests as always!

[@aidenschvatkok5732]

I retired my 899 with the new mid torque. It does everything I did with the 899

[@802Garage]

@@aidenschvatkok5732 I have a DCF923 which is great, but I still need the big dog for some of the large rusty fasteners quite often.

[@davidmiller6010]

Neither here nor there, off-subject, but still worth noting. I subbed to you guys prob a year and a half ago. I was getting notifications regularly, but recently, say 3 months or so, not any TTC notifications. To be fair, I have over 400 subs, so I don't ever see all my notifications, but you should at least come up as one of the 12 tiles on my suggested feed or my 'Home" tab. I'll try running TTC in my search bar more often to see if that revives you. You and Project Farm are my favorite tool reviewers. Todd shows up in my feed several time a week. Thought you might like to know in case Google is doing something funky to skew your numbers downward. Always great reviews guys- thanks!

[@slingin_tires]

I'll still take the dcf961. Not only because it fits my platform, its massively impressive and has turbo mode. 💯

[@TorqueTestChannel]

TURBOOOOOOOO

[@joatmon1857]

Mikwekeeee FTW as usual!!!

[@jnmc-vx4fw]

@@joatmon1857 it doesn’t win

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

The DCF961 is much bigger physcially and beats the hell out of sockets. I'd rather have the DCF900 if I needed Dewalt. Neither Dewalt is as well rounded as this new Milwaukee though.

[@lsumaniac2485]

Yeah if you need just raw power go for it, but when it comes to power and size the Milwaukee is in a different leaque

[@dougbrook6223]

When people ask "do you need that much" .... today i removed a steel driveshaft from a very worked ford truck. 12 point, 12mm grade 10 bolts with lock tite and many years of grime. To access them a swivel or universal style socket and extension was the easiest. I first grabbed my dewalt mid-torque which is my most often by far used impact. Did not remove any so i went straight on it with no swivel or extension.(though much harder and slower to access) still nothing... so i grabbed the snapon high torque. It may not be the strongest impact on torque test channels chart but make no mistake, its a very violently strong impact. Immediately it broke my 12 point impact socket. Not having a ton of 12 point sockets i used what i had and a chrome very old SK socket got slapped on a ridiculously strong 1/2 to 3/8 matco reducer. All 8 were removed and i have new respect for old SK sockets. I remember the days that an air powered 2135 ingersoll was as strong as it gets. It would have been useless against these bolts. Hell, i still own that old Ingersoll. In conclusion, the answer is yes. Hell yes its needed. When you work flatrate and time is money they are worth everything.

[@YankeeCherokee]

Wow. I doubted Milwaukee sitting on their laurels and falling behind in technology, but hot damn they absolutely upset the whole market. Astounding! Impressive engineering and definitely the new top dog IMO for it's length and ability to crush with a more affordable/lighter 5AH.

[@ZEPR0FESS0RR]

They sure do take there time- but everytime they release something they definitely try to make the absolute best product… whether they are successful is debatable , but it’s quality!!

[@markmills344]

​@@ZEPR0FESS0RR Rrriiiiing Brrrriiing - FAILED 2767 REVISION CALLING ...Humm, better not answer

[@chriskrause84]

Cheaper dewalt 961 beats these number with 5 ah. But yeah…. It’s bigger

[@jackrules1726]

Never going to need any of the tools that you test, but always enjoy the videos that you make.

[@cowthedestroyer]

This is what i like to see and i want to say this channel is probably one of the main driving factors behind these improvements. Team red for the win here and at a good price well done.

[@777woodworks]

Thanks for the update - I saw a previous video of the poor version prior to this, now that I'm shopping for one to do some car work, I'm glad I came across this, and the fact that you have a review of it out here too!

[@I1S1337]

Love that they added the tri beam led’s and it’s nice they made it shorter. Definitely moving in the right direction.

[@Proyoska]

Think that’s been Milwaukee’s modern impact design. Looking reeeeeal good

[@Booze_Rooster]

Just picked one up for myself yesterday. I work as a mechanic. I do things on the cheap. My rule is not to replace a tool until it breaks or can't do its job. I'm not ashamed to admit this- I have been running a 120V corded Chicago Electric 1/2" impact gun for over eight years. I've run it over, dropped it in the mud, dragged it by the cord, run it until I could smell it. All in the hopes it would finally die to justify upgrading. For eight years its busted loose every staked pinion nut, bumper bolt, crank snout bolt I've stuck it on. However two days ago I was trying to rip a crank snout bolt out of a Toyota 3.4L V6 and the old Shitcago finally found a job it couldn't do. A coworker (the kind of guy who always has to ask if you want "the right tool" to satisfy some kind of desire to feel superior) offered his Gen 3. The same bolt that the old $50 impact just rattled on- this thing snagged it out of there effortlessly. Needless to say, I now own this and the 3/8" impact (guess who has been running a Dewalt 1/4 impact for two years now and broken more adapters than one cares to admit?)

[@alannguyen5050]

Love the teardown part. Would appreciate that more. Will you guys consider replacing the grease on your older 2767 and see if that affects the torque numbers at all? A lot of owners are probably in need to regrease their impacts and would appreicate knowing if it changes things.

[@mikeherring9639]

I am a roadside assistance tech, I plan to aquire one of these next check... and beat it mercilessly... thank you torque test channel🥰

[@cheesecurd100s]

As someone who seems to drop a lot of subframes in the rust belt, I definitely need all the beans

[@chriskrause84]

Dewalt 961 ftw then

[@nickcbr650r]

I have a dcf900 and I gotta say I dont regret it at all but props to milwaukee for getting the shorter and stronger version, putting specs the competition didnt even thinked about!

[@Carter_Bourne]

Thank you so much as an auto Im ready to update my 2767 Great Job as always

[@dp9324]

Proud new owner of the 2967....THANK YOU for your comprehensive reviews!!

[@yettifpv4866]

I am a mechanic and I've put off buying a 1/2" cordless impact for years now, but I think this is going to be the one. Thanks for the comprehensive testing you guys do it really helps us trade workers out.

[@Sicktrickintuner]

You have been missing out either way…

[@HemiPowah]

I've had one of these for about six months now and 've got nothing but good things to say about it. It's a little on the heavy side but it knocks the rust belt suspension bolts and axle nuts with no effort at all. My wrist definitely appreciates the reduced vibration from not having to hammer away at stubborn hardware

[@josepheaton4874]

I really want to see the 961 pretty sure it's going to take that spot back real quick

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I think so too, but it's almost in it's own league of head size and weight.

[@FischerPrice74]

@@TorqueTestChannel you should throw a Milwaukee > Dewalt battery adapter with a powerstack on this (mainly for kicks and giggles) to see what you lose and if it could be worth it for yellow team to adapt for the shorter length with high torque

[@juanc5149]

It’s going to be a bit of a stomp too. The dcf961 already bested the 2967 on shop tool reviews with the basic 5 ah battery vs the forge.

[@ndoc8889]

I bought the DCF900 and have been super pleased with it despite never being able to tell the physical difference between it and my 899 when grabbing it out of my tool chest. The 961 should have be a 3/4” anvil by all accounts. Seems like just a way to keep the crown from the Red Army rather than a legitimate product innovation. They need a 3/4 or 1”. Essentially little to no incentive to get rid of the less than a year old 900 for it. That being said, great video! Now throw a Flex 10AH on it and send it. 😉

[@stlyns]

​@@juanc5149 Shop Tool Review got 2,300 breakaway on the Milwaukee 2967 and hit 2,700 with the 961. Just unreal

[@djaa7]

I bought it for plumbing to remove 4 inch cast iron plugs on clean outs that haven't been touched in a decade or more. I use it with a special socket set made specifically to remove these drain plugs. I think the biggest one is 2-1/2 inches (square) for a 4 in raided head plug. Opening these old sewers has saved my clients replacement of the entire cleanout tee. Usually in a wall or in concrete.

[@v8tergt653]

I bought a 2767 serial A and the electronics are different than previous before the B serials, the trigger is laggy and feels weird . Definitely selling it and gona give the new one a try

[@TheUncleRuckus]

Thank you @TorqueTestChannel for stepping in to fill AvE's place since his basic retirement, for pulling tools apart so we can get a peek under the skirt and see how their constructed.👍👍

[@BuffaloWarrior7]

​​@@tdotw77he seemed to have gone down a bit of a crazy conspiracy hole. Started with the covid shutdowns. Which I can sort of understand. He's entitled to his opinions. But I watched him for his tool reviews. Enjoyed the rantings and ravings. But then things started to go down a different path. And to be fair Canadas government does infringe on freedoms way more than America's. I think he'd be more at home (at least politically) in Montana.

[@a1racer441]

I have the Dewalt 900 and 4 of the 6 amp hour batteries this is impressive for sure but I'm no professional so few extra foot pounds won't matter to me, but I can see where the dudes in the shop can really put this to good usage. plus, same price basically as the Dewalt so like 1/3rd the price of any tool truck offerings not bad.

[@coultermains1770]

Just bought one yesterday and already got to test its true power today on a tanker truck. It’s purely amazing to see something cordless in half inch beat a 1inch air gun.

[@darkerbinding6933]

You've really come a long way from your beginnings. Great job. You are the standard by which this kind of testing is done.

[@Tony.Z33]

Yes we need the power. My breaker bar has basically been retired since buying the dcf900. Thing has been a life saver.

[@santiagosag7160]

When you get the DCF 961 I would love to hear your opinion on whether to get that or the DCF 900

[@wsmcook]

I keep seeing comments similar to this but I was pretty sure he already had tested one.

[@Jamba_Samba]

But that was the unreleased version

[@200130769]

961 for sure

[@ac.creations]

Something ive done to my m18 fuel tools when Ive opened them up is stick a gob of hot glue around the plastic that houses the battery terminations. Its only held in by the frame clamping around it and theres slop that lets the battery flop around. Though gotta make sure you stick a battery on while its still warm so it doesnt cure cockeyed!

[@smartperson325]

Sad day for anyone who runs DeWalt. Our reign was short lived even the new DeWalt high torque won't top this simply due to price and size. It might hit a little harder but it will be way too big and heavy also pushing the 1/2" anvil way to far. It will take a few years for another brand to make an impact this good.

[@wsmcook]

I say a 1/2" is a 1/2", dcf961 takes the win.

[@200130769]

961 is miles better than the milwaukee. 😂

[@chriskrause84]

Dewalt 961 is better…. 90% of the time the dewalt won’t for nor will that red guy! If you need compact air tools are by far better than any electric tool.

[@grilledlettuce4028]

Got it for working on my 74’ D300 dumper, its gonna be great

[@BL-yj2wp]

Really impressive performance. However I think 1/2" is pretty much maxed out at this point, if they want to go beyond 1000ftlbs for this size/class of tool a bigger anvil as a new standard would make sense.

[@nwngunner]

shop tool reviews has their hands on a dcf961. Using a torque gun, they torqued bolts to 2600 or 2700 pounds and the 961 pulled them off with a 5ah battery. The 6amp would do more. I dont think the anvils are going to last long, nor are sockets at 2700pounds.

[@alexmills1329]

@@nwngunneryeah but that thing was eating 1/2” sockets alive. As much as I hate the Makita high torque only coming in at 3/4” anvil I have to say for the power level it makes the most sense.

[@nwngunner]

@alexmills1329 I believe they will offer it in 3/4, the nose cone looks to be large enough to offer the larger anvil

[@BL-yj2wp]

@@nwngunner I've seen that one, it loosened 800ftlbs or so more than the super long Snap On. But it destroyed a socket in no time.

[@kdash3215]

HowToAutomotive has some great repair videos. Cool seeing both these channels on one video. I sold my high torque years ago in anticipation for this. Finally! Thanks.

[@DavidMartinez-lc6mu]

I have the dcf900. I gotta say, I enjoy how powerful it is when it comes to bolt removal. The new gen Milwaukee is also interesting. But it depends on the interest and battery platform you have. All in all, happy with the dcf900.

[@drunkenmessiah]

TTC does excellent testing but you really do need to take a step back every now and then and consider how close these tools really are, especially in the 'top-tier.' This is one of the few realms of consumer goods where there is still some really good, strong competition going on. I think the most useful thing about TTC is the breadth of their testing that allows you to decide what 'battery family' is the best compromise for your needs as "red vs yellow" is silly; both Dewalt and Milwaukee make great gear. Its much more important to weed out the true stinkers and cut through the confusing/misleading marketing. I love my Dewalt tools but I've gotta admit their marketing is total BS a lot of the time. TTC has done a great job of showing that, especially with the Flexvolt Advantage vs Power Detect video. I give props to Dewalts engineers but I've got ZERO RESPECT for their marketing people. Stuff like battery discharge performance is as clear as mud with Dewalt. I never would have known their 6AH 20v battery is so much better for high discharge applications than their 8AH if it wasn't for TTC. You would think "bigger battery means more power" but that isn't the case at all. Love TTC for cutting through the BS and telling us working stiffs what we really need to know!

[@bleach_drink_me]

No point in jumping to another battery platform if your tools work and do the intended job. I have considered switching to team red but then I just open my tool box and see the thousands of dollars in batteries and change my mind.

[@WEEPATCH13]

Can't wait until he test out the dcf961

[@lanceleavitt7472]

Milwaukee should pay you a sales commission : Now willing to invest in the 2967-20. --- Thanks for the great upload, "Just gimme the numbers". ---

[@mattvic4617]

The price is what surprises me the most, I think we have dewalts 900 knocking on their door to thank for that

[@fredboat]

Thanks, Enjoyed the info and humor. I bought the 2967-20 a few months ago, Works great for my needs, Driving in concrete anchors and commercial over head door repairs and some personal lift equipment.

[@rickbharper]

Great review - I've been holding off purchasing a Gen2, looks like that was the right call. I would like to see how this tool performs with a High-Output 6.0 compared to the Forge. I already own quite a few of those and I would like to know what kind of performance I'm leaving on the table if I don't join the Forge bandwagon just yet. As always, thanks for the review!

[@kadendoyle2759]

Can’t really compare the 2 batteries. The new forge battery is supposed to compare to the high output 12.0 Best way I can put it is the new forge is the new 12.0 high output battery but the size of a 6.0

[@rickbharper]

@@kadendoyle2759 I agree that's what all the marketing has said so far - but a lot of tests show that only the highest draw direct drive tools (saws, grinders, etc,) make much more steam with the 12.0 over the 6.0... I've heard and seen a lot of reviews showing the performance bump you get by replacing a 5.0 with a Forge, but haven't really seen a solid side by side against the 6.0

[@ALAPINO]

Once a week I find myself inside a 650 ton injection moulding press. Sometimes very tight quarters. My 2767 is great but it can't do it all. Sometimes it just can't undo clamps that are used to hold up 15000 lb+ moulds. I mean, that's not what it's supposed to be for, but it does 90% of short of those. I'd love a 1" but they just don't fit where I need to have all the ugga-duggas. If this new Gen can give me 5% more capability in mould assembly and press setup, it would would pay for itself almost instantly. Thanks for sharing, as always, TTC!❤

[@alfredbernal8603]

Thank you for the review. Very interesting! ✌🕶🔧

[@mrvang8077]

I got the dewalt version. Hands down powerful. It doesnt dissappoint when it comes to performance.

[@randysmith9636]

That battery is serious. I am looking forward to the new battery next year also. I am team Red after some Yellow fails, it happens i get it. I started Milwaukee with their M12 Fuel and was very impressed with the size and power. It made sense to also progress to the M18 Fuel. Regardless of your color choice you have to admit getting this kind of power from a 18/20/24 volt battery is very impressive. Who would have ever thought years ago when a battery powered tool was, at best, used for installing some cabinet screws. Stay strong brothers and thank you for the video.

[@RyanNash20]

I bought my high torque Milwaukee almost 2 years ago now and it's a beast. Was hard for me to admit anything could hang with it until my coworker got a dewalt dcf891b. That little compact mid-torque is a monster, I can see why the dcf900 is touted so highly. Electric power tools are getting nuts anymore, even the budget brands are often impressive. I'm a Milwaukee fan, but I'm all about saving money if there's something comparable available (Bauer angle grinder ive been using for a year now at home has more balls than the milwaukee and dewalt ones I use at work) seems like its hard to go wrong anymore outside of bottom of the barrel stuff like hypertough and such.

[@emmcee476]

I own the DCF891 and love it. Very versatile due to compact size and power But I don't go crazy with extended hammering. I have a Hercules High Torque if I need a little more power, although now I'm considering the DCF900

[@DMGamer_PC]

Slightly odd opinion here: I look forward to seeing if/how Bosch responds to this one. ...Okay okay, I know Bosch isn't super popular in auto circles, but I already had 18v batteries for home use when I started working, and their Profactor 740n keeping up with the 2767 was... Actually encouraging, lol. Kinda hoping they come out with a new high torque, considering they seem to be showing their impacts more love. ...And a 12v ratchet wouldn't go amiss, but at this point I am just dreaming x3

[@engineer_alv]

I'm also one of the dozen users who own Bosch tools, LOL I don't think the 740N and 770N will be updated anytime soon. They've been in the market for like 2 years? I wouldn't expect they release a follow up in less than a couple more years, hope I'm wrong, though. PS: yes I'd like a cordless ratchet in either 12V or 18V and a follow up to their 18V multi tool. I've got both tools in M12 Fuel guise but would be willing to switch to blue if they're compelling enough. One can only dream...

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

Keep dreaming

[@DMGamer_PC]

@@mann_idonotreadreplies Thanks I will

[@Troyvidihoo]

Awesome review as always! And yes I'd love to see that slow motion on the battery foot. Thanks! Very fine work indeed! Going to be interesting to see very soon no doubt, what the most torque you can possibly get out of a 1/2-inch drive is, It's impressive that they don't snap off now!

[@X4Alpha4X]

for 300 smackers and seeing the tear down i cant imagine their profit margins are all that high. genuinely seems like an exceptional price for what it is

[@codyswilley]

It probably dont cost them $30 to make it if we're being honest. I'd say $50 max

[@X4Alpha4X]

@@codyswilley the raw materials probably, once you factor the labor, machining, and tooling, absolutely not. the brushless motor alone would be close to $50 at scale prices. the hammer, spring, and anvil in the impact head probably approach $100. the planetary gears before assembly labor might be around $20. the driver board is probably about that as well. so that's $190 without including the housing, controls, misc components, and labor. id assume a break even price close to $240 +- $15. you gotta realize the tool market runs pretty similar to printers and ink, the actual tool isnt where they make their money, its the batteries.

[@upnorth5465]

That's because they don't make much off the tools themselves. They make all their serious profit off of the batteries.

[@DooMHaMMeR247]

I've had my malfakki for 5 years and abused the crap out of it. Still running the original batteries as well. After seeing this testing and results I might retire the OG home and buy that new one for the shop. Great videos appreciate all your content.

[@AspectofFrost]

Im team red, but have enjoyed seeing all the other brands catch up and surpass Milwaukee over these last 3 or so years. Just means Gen 3 will have more competition and better products for everyone.

[@aaronmelson2887]

I recently purchased the Gen 2, it came with a free 5 amp battery and is more than enough for what I do, but I love watching these kind of comparison videos of new and improved tools. Great video.

[@780brando]

awesome! my new 2967 & forge battery will arrive tomorrow. I was kinda hoping you wouldve tested it with the flex 24v batteries just for fun though lol

[@Dirtyharry70585]

Think they wanted a straight up test. And cuddle it first like a new baby…..😊

[@cliffordmontana4562]

I have two new M18 midtorques and a new high torque. I paid a total of $450 for all three from Home Depot using the hack. Awesome tools. I got protective boots for all three to keep them in good shape since they’re in gravel and on concrete when I use them.

[@LilFoxAK]

once again, milwaukee absolutely killing it. smaller tool and more power than ever. 961 is stronger but its big af. im taking this gen 3 under any car alll day. legit the evolved version of gen 2. smaller and stronger. happy they really trying to make a better product

[@tessierrr]

Exactly, if i just want power ill get a 1inch monster 😂

[@masonandmepowerwheelsvids1690]

I do have some lugnuts on my pickup that my gen 2 can't break loose. This is excellent news

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

What always impresses me about Milwaukee is that they don’t just aim to be the strongest in their segment- they do it while being the most compact and ergonomic as well. I own and like Dewalt, but they can’t touch Milwaukee on anything but power right now. Long live the red king.

[@FusionBoost2.0]

Milwaukee tools are hardly ergonomic, they never were.

[@svn5994]

​@@FusionBoost2.0They are unlike any of the other brands being uncomfortable.

[@juanc5149]

They been stomping on Milwaukee on power. With their gen 3 being second place on arrival. As for ergonomic comments do you really own dewalts?

[@Bathtubcrocodile]

​@@juanc5149 Each to their own. I like most m18 drill driver/impact and torque wrench handles. Not really into the swollen m12 (battery in handle). They really fit *my* hand. Like the feel. But Milwaukee sucks on weight balance. Very top heavy and all over the place. Dewalts grips are usually great. Don't know about their balance but I've held lot's of clumsy Dewalt tools (brad nailer, lol). Makita wins balance and anti-vibration on new tools. Easily. I myself am invested in Milwaukee. Because I bought a kit and have been building on it. Very happy with my choice. If I got to switch brand I'd go with Makita. Dewalt comes last of the 3. But I still like Dewalt. I'm not a "army of red" fanatic.

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

@@juanc5149 What do you mean "they been stomping on Milwaukee"? Milwaukee across various power tools has been crushing Dewalt for years in power (if not reliability and warranty). Just because Dewalt released some new tools in the past year to play catchup with older Milwaukee stuff doesn't mean they've been crushing Milwaukee...And yes, I own many brands including Makita, Dewalt and Milwaukee. I'm not loyal to any brand-I buy what what performs well and fits the way I work.

[@cortezaz]

FINALLY!!! I wanted to see a real review on Milwaukee 2967-20. 👍

[@dustinjung3699]

By personally owning the gen2 Milwaukee with a half-inch drive with the short handle I do notice more backlash into the user vs using other brands with longer handles it feels like less and I think the long-handle would help with that that's why I think they corporated that into the tool.

[@mediocreman2]

Longer handle increases the lever action and all else being equal would increase the difficulty of handling the machine. But yes it could have slightly less vibration, all things being equal, because it's distributed over more area.

[@enthused7591]

Beautiful work. The main take away here is this thing is going to do ever job you'll ever want with all our old XC5.0's we have lying around. Forever gonna be a fan of the XC5.0s. They're good enough to never have to replace with new tech.

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

Bread and butter

[@Thebassguru84]

Wasnt really impressed with the gen2 after the 2 i had broke with in months of each other. Might give this one a chance but thats a very long shot

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

Watch the vid again. Milf upgraded it

[@mg8718]

I didnt buy this tool to simply break bolts free. I leraned how to use this tool and i use level 3 99% of the time. I rarely use a torq wrench anymore. I know just how long to hold that trigger and then stop. This tool has an amazing trigger for awesome control.

[@nordicpride9708]

Honestly for the Dewalt dcf900 and this new Milwaukee there isn’t enough power difference to switch. Especially if you already have the DEWALT batteries/charger. The DCF 900 is more powerful than most anyone needs. For 1/2 inch, if you need more than 900ft lbs something is wrong. Still a very interesting test and good to see incremental improvements 👍🏻

[@Tcorellis-j6d]

As true as that is you know there are people out there that “jump ship” from brand to brand just for 50-100 ftlbs when anything around 800ish is plenty

[@mmettej]

milwaukee has a better lineup in general you're missing out

[@nordicpride9708]

@@mmettej Not for high torque. I own Milwaukee electric ratchets and one mini impact. I don’t run just one brand. So no I’m not missing out.

[@mmettej]

well they do now @@nordicpride9708

[@chriskrause84]

Size is the only reason for the switch. But if you need compact in what world is any electric coming close to an air gun?…

[@darcykeddell4930]

My dcf900 came with a powerstack 5 amper its a beast

[@laukc7085]

For those of us that don't want to drop 300 bucks on the tool and another 200 on a forge battery, could you do some testing with the high output batteries many of us already have?

[@rock962000]

What I was wondering too

[@chriskrause84]

Dewalt 961 has more power with standard 5ah battery than this does with a forge..

[@dylanphillips405]

I hope you've seen the dewalt 961, it's supposed to be better then their 900 and we would love to see you test it

[@billS560]

Looking forward to your review. I will be getting one based on the results.

[@buildingsalvage]

Good lawd that area under the curve

[@rowankeltizar5961]

Nice to see a gen 3 update that actually is a huge improvement. I have been really happy with their gen 2 nail guns. Huge improvement over the gen 1. I wish they would update some of their other tools that are generally considered mediocre. Even a lot of their "good" tools could still be improved upon.

[@tundatime]

team read has been kind of disappointing with their gen 3 stuff lately, glad to see they stepped up their game to remind everyone why they're the yard stick.

[@TBrady]

My old Milwaukee High Torque is a tank. I don't think I have any reason to upgrade but if it ever dies I'd be more than happy to buy the new version. It's definitely paid for itself.

[@darrenhenderson7076]

Bro turbo charged DeWalt is a animals and makes this look like a pup hope to see it next

[@jrkovar]

Nice channel. High information density. Well written, designed, and delivered.

[@ALEX-xd7ko]

The 961 is eating this thing like a snack . I've watched the 961 brake 2700lbs in under 10s it broke 2800 in 10s on a fresh battery....

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Agreed it's likely above, and given its chunk it should be. But the 2500-3000ft-lbs on 1/2" impacts..... if they could do 2800 ft-lbs i'm sure the brand would be happy to put that on the box.

[@Muscovy7]

Were you watching DeWalt’s infomercials?

[@theFINALc0untdown]

@muscovy7 watch shop tools review of dcf961

[@--_DJ_--]

Where did you see that? Those numbers really don't jive with reality.

[@riba2233]

​@@--_DJ_--tested on KZbin, real numbers. This one did 2400 on the same setup

[@jdesigns7239]

I loved that running Pros/Cons list as the tear down progressed. It always served as mental reminder of good & bad.

[@anasalamri8320]

Thank you, sir. You doing all of this has definitely made our choice much easier. You channel ppp up every time I search for a new power tool. I endded up buying a Ridgid high torque once you said get one once you can.

[@strizzy239]

Hey TTC, can you guys make a video with the various Milwaukee impacts showing the approximate torque the different modes make in a certain amount of time. For instance, the compact says it makes less than 20ft lbs on mode 1. How many impacts does it generally take to achieve this? Just a couple or 5 seconds ish. Also, if you keep letting it impact will it continue to tighten past 20? I think that would be SUPER useful information as it’s not spoken about in the manual beyond saying mode 1 is less than 20lbs. Thanks for the videos, you guys do an amazing job and comparable with the greats like project farm; keep it up!!

[@mrdisher163]

My home depot is having a deal where you can get the 2967 with a free 5.0 battery. Glad I did my research before I go out and buy it!

[@uninhabitedspace]

I can't wait to see the dcf961 production model on here when you get it.

[@battlefield3112011]

I keep watching this before sleeping like multiple times :)). Can't wait for DCF961 vs this.

[@shangri-la-la-la]

Thanks for all the info. Your channel got me to get the Makita 3/4 40V which has come in handy where the Milwaukee's didn't have enough force and saved a co-worker from getting the gen 2 model B Milwaukee. Will be looking forward to the Makita 1 inch impact there is limited info on to see if it is actually good or a bust.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Makita 1" is what i dream about

[@NickVanRegenmorter]

As someone with big hands, I really hope the added length will keep my pinky from bumping the mode selector all the time. It’s quite annoying on the gen 2

[@Gary.6.10.19]

My 899 has never failed me. Still cool that they're getting better though.

[@MrZimmaframe]

This new Milwaukee isn't out yet in the UK, will be interesting to see how much it costs considering the Dewalt DCF900 costs just £169.00 vat included bare tool, the old Milwaukee still costing £219 and with 'One Key' £230-240..

[@dirkdingle7926]

Might be interested in getting one as I threw my gen 2 in the bin this morning snapped wires and broken wires on boards etc only lasted 4yr

[@jimberg98]

Have you guys looked into how these companies determine the torque ratings for these tools? Do they have a power supply they plug the tool into that will provide all of the necessary power needed to achieve the rating? The best case scenario.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They all do it differently. DeWALT plugs the tool directly into a torsion arm and measures it with a transducer. Metabo HPT used nuts and bolts. Many brands use a skidmore whelhelm for forward but then it to remove which is not how its designed.

[@jimberg98]

@@TorqueTestChannel Thanks for the quick response. Do they test them with a specific type of battery or are they plugged directly into a power supply that can maximize the potential of the tool?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@jimberg98 Milwaukee, in this case, is admitting its based on battery, Which they've done in specs before with other TTI brands like Hart. Other brands it's a toss up, hard to get a straight answer. IMO if the tool comes in a kit and that kit has specs written on the box, that tool using the battery in that kit should make that.