Milwaukee Track Saw - Everything You Need to Know

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Milwaukee could have made the perfect track saw. They had the advantage of seeing every other brand's model before releasing theirs. But this is what they gave us. Is it good enough?
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0:00 Milwaukee M18 Track Saw Review
0:37 M18 Track Saw Packout Box
2:14 Installing the Blade on Milwaukee's Track Saw
2:44 M18 Track Saw Features
3:40 Milwaukee Track Saw Depth and Bevel Adjustment
5:09 M18 High Output Battery Included
5:30 Build Quality of the Milwaukee Track Saw
6:24 Will Festool Hose Fit Milwaukee Track Saw?
6:39 Systainer vs Packout Box
7:08 Festool vs Milwaukee Warranty
7:18 Festool vs Milwaukee Pricing Comparison
9:00 Milwaukee Work with Festool/Makita Tracks?
10:00 Blades for Milwaukee Track Saw
11:00 Festool Beats Milwaukee with 2 Features
12:12 Dear Milwaukee, You Had Years To Get This Right...
13:13 Hidden Features on the Milwaukee Track Saw
14:01 First Cut with Milwaukee Track Saw
14:24 Milwaukee Track Saw Dust Collection
15:18 Cutting Thick Hardwood with the Milwaukee Track Saw
17:16 Cut Quality of M18 Track Saw
17:59 Milwaukee Cordless Track Saw Battery Life
19:02 M18 Track Saw Cutting Plywood
19:33 Bad Dust Collection with Bag on M18 Track Saw
19:57 Festool vs Milwaukee Track Saw

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@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
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@TenmaFN
@TenmaFN Жыл бұрын
No thanks on either track saw... i'll stick to my 35$ 4 foot level, 2 5$ clamps and 80$ Metabo HPT circular saw.... lower cost, less foot print and it does not have a battery that will eventually need to be replaced.... and will not die, or wont be charged when you need it most.
@parzival9494
@parzival9494 Жыл бұрын
As someone who does not have a track saw AND already on the m18 platform…I would reluctantly take the Milwaukee track saw off your hands when you’re done with it. I hate that it’s taking up space in your shop that you could better use for something else. Keep up the great videos!
@J4Julz
@J4Julz Жыл бұрын
Really pleased that you did this review of the Milwaukee system. My tool base is Milwaukee and was just lamenting to a friend that my very old cordless Milwaukee on the 14.4 batteries (1998 or so) was pretty dead and I would need a replacement for "off grid" farm fencing work. Now I can have a track saw too! Excellent!
@mosesrestorations
@mosesrestorations Жыл бұрын
Great in-depth video. You do a great job going over every little details on these tools reviews!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@jefff6167
@jefff6167 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate that you buy many of the tools you review yourself. IMHO there are way too many “sponsored” tool reviews on KZbin.
@scottbyrd2157
@scottbyrd2157 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos! This was very helpful! As a amateur woodworker my tool base became Milwaukee. Simply because I got tired of replacing tools and wanted something dependable. While all tools have their pros and con’s Milwaukee was just a preference. You brought up very good points as Milwaukee has had ample time to sort themselves from the top. All your videos are great! Keep up the amazing content!
@betods1013
@betods1013 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, you’ve got some of the best review/comparison videos on KZbin. Too many people just doing timed tests - “1-2-3-go”. LOL. Yours are much more informative.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@stevenpodolsky5164
@stevenpodolsky5164 Жыл бұрын
I have owned the Festool cordless only because when I needed one they were the only ones who made a track saw. Bought the corded version first and used it many years. Excellent saw. Then sold that and purchased the battery model. That is also an excellent saw but only downfall is 2 batteries and only 1 charger. Yes saw runs on 1 battery but at a significant power loss I found anyways. I’ve been waiting for the Milwaukee version and finally purchased just the saw as I’m on their battery platform. I used it on a job cut oak veneer sheet goods on my Festool tracks and I was really impressed with it. I did straight cuts, 45° bevel cuts. Excellent job. Used 12 amp battery. Found the saw nicely balanced even with the bigger battery. I’m using a Makita 6 1/2” blade on it. And it fits in my Festool systainer too until I build a case for it. I didn’t want that big box that came with the kit.
@stevensullivan242
@stevensullivan242 Жыл бұрын
Really great vid - thanks for this! Looks like a really nice saw. Myself, I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee and ended up buying the Makita 40v track saw... Love that thing, but I really wish the blade was on the left side. I'm tempted to ditch it for the Kreg just for that reason, but, I really hate cords. I know I know, doesn't make a bit of sense since nearly 100% of the time I'm tethered to a dust collector.
@fourzerothreewoodworks
@fourzerothreewoodworks Жыл бұрын
Great video. I ultimately went with the cordless festool. One huge Pro for the festool as well is that despite having 2 batteries it can operate on 1! I was on neither platform so it just made sense to go that direction with a company that’s been building these style saws since the start
@poman8772
@poman8772 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this in depth review!
@dennislamers986
@dennislamers986 Жыл бұрын
So your right they finally made a track saw. I am a Milwaukee tool guy so yeah that's the one for me. I think with the box you could take out the foam tool holder and put sockets or other things under the saw. I did like the auto switch on the vacuum but I will never own a fancy jobber like that anyway.
@c.harris7823
@c.harris7823 8 ай бұрын
Just bought the Milwaukee track saw and this video reaffirmed my decision. I don't own a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools, but given how expensive high performance batteries are in general, it only makes sense that you would want to max leverage the battery portion of your investment with the platform that has way more multipurpose [not strictly woodworking] cordless tools in their lineup, [vs. Festool]. If cut quality is comparable, I think the Milwaukee wins out. Great video BTW! 👍🏼
@fixittony
@fixittony 4 ай бұрын
I don’t fault Milwaukee regarding the Bluetooth feature. Easy enough workarounds. Good review. After watching over a dozen different videos on track saws, I am inclined to go with Milwaukee. Thanks for helping me with my decision making process.
@NV..V
@NV..V Жыл бұрын
Another great video - thank you. I bought the corded DeWalt Track Saw five years ago and it has served me well. No complaints. Take care of the tools you have and they will take care of you.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
That's right!
@mwoody4560
@mwoody4560 Жыл бұрын
Thx for a great review. After looking at what was available at the time I chose Makita and love it.
@Koston-xo6cx
@Koston-xo6cx Жыл бұрын
Same here. 40v
@isannui
@isannui 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video! great to see an in depth video on them both, out of curiosity, have you ever tried the Mafell version of the track saw?
@shigthehandyman
@shigthehandyman Жыл бұрын
Great video! I would have been curious to see and hear the Festool cut thru the same piece of walnut with a single 18v and then dual. Anyway…great video…as always!!
@vc8424
@vc8424 6 ай бұрын
Everything I was hoping to learn, thank you.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kevinhilton8683
@kevinhilton8683 Жыл бұрын
Liked the video a lot. Thanks for the time you put into it.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@treyinok
@treyinok Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe is the lied about the cost. They originally said you could buy the kit for $549 then delayed the release by several months and massively increased the cost!
@MV-wb2cz
@MV-wb2cz Жыл бұрын
still beats the 1500$ festool in price
@streetkombativesystem4704
@streetkombativesystem4704 Жыл бұрын
Makita cordless all day, quality piece of kit, and for the price! Thanks for the video.
@davidewing1779
@davidewing1779 Жыл бұрын
Very in depth. Thank you! To add one observation, I like the fact the Milwaukee incorporated the idea of people using it possibly without tracks and making it easier for people to use it without them (i.e. the depth gauge ease). It actually makes it so that you don't need a circ saw AND the track saw easier than the Festool (which can be used without the track but is not as quick to use). So, if I went up to this point...I'd probably go with the Milwaukee. For the anti-kickback feature, I'm wondering if the Festool has a patent? That might be why.
@gm08351
@gm08351 Жыл бұрын
milwaukee fanboys crying
@Nick-cs9dt
@Nick-cs9dt Жыл бұрын
@@gm08351 don’t be a keyboard muppet
@Zeotropic
@Zeotropic Жыл бұрын
It is clearly a copy of the Festool minus the patented items XD
@carlosprieto773
@carlosprieto773 Жыл бұрын
Great video, investment in battery brands is a strong motivator! I am ordering my Milwaukee tomorrow (good bundle deal with a hammer drill) and was wondering, are the tracks compatible with other track clamps? Thanks man, enjoy your content!
@derrickmackins2111
@derrickmackins2111 8 ай бұрын
Man, this is a great review. You're a natural!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@kevinchamberlain7928
@kevinchamberlain7928 Жыл бұрын
I'm using team red MAFELL.
@fraserdaly6169
@fraserdaly6169 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, I have the Mafell battery saw too, do you have issues with the blade vibrating during cuts? It spoils the cut when it happens, is my blade causing it?
@dimr1088
@dimr1088 Жыл бұрын
Eh, they are certainly good for woodworking. But for someone who's a general contractor, milwaukee or makita is about only way to go to stay on one battery system.
@robertstanley980
@robertstanley980 Жыл бұрын
The pack out box system Is 10x festainers
@boobye6305
@boobye6305 Жыл бұрын
​@@dimr1088if you want 1 battery system then the CAS system is the way to go
@lotus_8773
@lotus_8773 Жыл бұрын
Man mafell to dang expensive
@JustTony72
@JustTony72 Жыл бұрын
Key blades make a great alternative up the festool blades.
@JaimetheNomad
@JaimetheNomad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison! I’m a huge Milwaukee fan and have a lot of their cordless tools. Currently the only Festool product I own is one of their dust extractors but I thought I was set on getting their track saw. And I do like the anti kickback feature for that just in case. But being invested in the Milwaukee ecosystem already it’s probably smarter to stay their. Less expensive since I don’t need batteries, one less charger etc. I agree though, it’s disappointing when companies have such a great opportunity to make something even better and innovative and they just take the easy road, cmon Milwaukee, you’re better than that! All that being said, I may have to get the Milwaukee which sounds like isn’t a bad choice at all.
@aronandreas
@aronandreas Жыл бұрын
Try Starmix vacuum for no bags
@chrispiggott8386
@chrispiggott8386 Жыл бұрын
I own corded mahkita track saw. It's amazing
@jimkranz2181
@jimkranz2181 Жыл бұрын
Great review. The "But You Made This" part is a little click baity, but I get. I got my Milwaukee a week ago and ready do love it. That said, for those looking at both, the best advise Matt gave is go with where you are already invested. For me, that's Milwaukee. If you don't have either, you should then look at all the other tools both offer (and the price) and pick one. Again, thank you for a great review.
@boogiedahomey
@boogiedahomey Жыл бұрын
A 9 foot roll-up track in the box would have been a huge selling point but I think Mafell still has the patent on that.
@BK-Woods
@BK-Woods 9 ай бұрын
Can’t compare this junk with the Mafell You hear me y’all 😂
@bradleytuckwell4881
@bradleytuckwell4881 Жыл бұрын
Nice saw with a great review cheers
@ronh9384
@ronh9384 Жыл бұрын
Good video as always. Another review I watched said that when using the Milwaukee cutting at 45 degrees it doesn’t cut to the same line as it does at 90 degree mark and that it trims some of the anti tear out strip at 45 degrees. Did you notice that as well? Also did you include the Wittworks link for the dust cover? Have a good one. Ron
@joegeorge4608
@joegeorge4608 Жыл бұрын
Thnks bud. good stuff
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@KrushKrills
@KrushKrills Жыл бұрын
Im team red for 90% of my power tools, but i wont be getting rid of my cordless Makita track saw any time soon , which happens to fit in the smaller "large" packout box perfectly with the double charger & batteries.
@ipick4fun27
@ipick4fun27 Жыл бұрын
I think Mikita Tracksaw is great for the price. Well I got the corded version since I'm in team yellow.
@Joseph-jx8bl
@Joseph-jx8bl Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t wait any longer and went with the Makita cordless. It’s such a specialized tool, I didn’t mind stepping away from Team Red for that purchase…I got the whole setup and saved $400.
@gregghernandez2714
@gregghernandez2714 2 ай бұрын
Same here. I have the Makita cordless, and I feel it is absolutely one of the best bang for the buck track saws you can buy. The reason I went with Makita is I own several regular circular saws from the Skil to the Ryobi brushless to the Ridgid, and by far my favorite circular saw is my Makita is it's nice dedicated case. The motor is very quiet and it just oozes quality. So when I powered up the Makita track saw, I was not disappointed at all.
@williamparker8318
@williamparker8318 Жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison. Cheers.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bourkey07
@bourkey07 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the track sold outside of the US (I'm in Australia) is completely anodized red. Great video, very well thought out and executed.
@dominikfratczak8710
@dominikfratczak8710 Жыл бұрын
In Uk you can buy different brands blade replacement for festool tracksaw. Trend for starters makes them and Freud which looks very similar to US brand Diablo. At the end of the day what matters when you look for a blade replacement is its general size and bore size plus blade thickness as it must match with built in riving knife. Both brands are using common size blades
@donkeymarco
@donkeymarco Жыл бұрын
Diablo it is a Freud's brand. Freud (Frese Udinesi) is an italian company bought some years ago by Bosch.
@michaellacaria910
@michaellacaria910 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video, I’m in the market and shopping around and noticed some surprises, like the saw price alone means little if you’re not platform committed already because you need accessories with it. When you add track, batteries, chargers, clamps, dust collectors etc., that’s where the real price shows up. I’m mostly on 20v Dewalt tools but their track saw is 60v! Similar with Makita, they have 40V saw. MW at least has same battery voltage, that’s a big plus to me if I had MW tools, but I don’t. In conclusion I’m finding that the corded saws cost the same and in some cases more than the cordless ones in my area, so I’m leaning towards Makita because I’m not in the MW platform and the saw has great reviews and with accessories the ROI is pretty good. BTW you got a new subscriber, good video.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! I've heard nothing but great things about the Makita corded track saw. I don't think you would be disappointed with it.
@ryan74701
@ryan74701 Жыл бұрын
Just buy the dewalt to Milwaukee battery adapters off Amazon, I’m dewalt 99%, but wanted their m18 Brad nailer, adapter works great.
@joebeaton1101
@joebeaton1101 Жыл бұрын
Great video > Most informative!!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@robertgaritano7718
@robertgaritano7718 Жыл бұрын
I like Festool but for a track saw I chose Makita and saved a few bucks. And am more than happy with it.
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate Жыл бұрын
Best choice
@danielrisberg2112
@danielrisberg2112 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you for all the work put into this!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@supergimp2000
@supergimp2000 Жыл бұрын
CMT and others have blades for both of those track saws. There are several options besides the OEM blades. Taytools sells them, for one.
@joe_ferreira
@joe_ferreira Жыл бұрын
I just found a cmt 165mm to fit this on taytools. Thanks
@christiancuesta401
@christiancuesta401 6 ай бұрын
Great video
@clarkstonguy1065
@clarkstonguy1065 Жыл бұрын
I wish I weren't so cheap, I have been clamping levels to plywood for years as saw guides for my occasional projects and this looks so much better...
@FixItFrench
@FixItFrench Жыл бұрын
If you’re a contractor, that 5-year warranty and packout box looks pretty good. Tools like this go through a beating on the job site. If you’re just doing woodwork, I think both of these tools will be amazing for you.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@5280Woodworking
@5280Woodworking Жыл бұрын
I will say Festool is old school, no questions asked. I’ve not had the same experience with MW and actually getting a response took several days. Festool called me back in 15 minutes, saw it was under warranty and that was it, zero questions.
@UnlimitedPossibilities345
@UnlimitedPossibilities345 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I’m curious as to how the Dewalt 60v compares. I’m not in either of those platforms..
@stu-po
@stu-po Жыл бұрын
The Milwakee has anti tip for miter cuts with their own tracks, and Makita tracks. I have the anti-tip on Makita saw and like it. The riving knife and splinter guard make the Milwaukee a good upgrade candidate for Makita.
@Syfes
@Syfes Жыл бұрын
Anti tip tab on the milwaukee doesn't seem to fit the makita tracks unfortunately 😅
@boobye6305
@boobye6305 Жыл бұрын
driving knife prevents from downing plunge cuts, which is the whole point of track saws
@steffendetrick
@steffendetrick Жыл бұрын
20,000 views in seven hours😮 that’s awesome good for you. Nice review enjoyed it.
@mitchellharland2014
@mitchellharland2014 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the flexvolt track saw and have had it for years now, done hundreds of houses of cement sheet cladding, tens of thousands of cuts and it’s a great site saw, I’ve been looking into another saw for finer work when hanging doors etc and also have Milwaukee batteries but the lack of auto start for dust extraction is a massive miss for me, even the old dewalt has it, makita has had it forever and so has festool I think I’ll be going the festool route for the nicer saw
@geraldhorst1
@geraldhorst1 Жыл бұрын
Working on the Jobsite you are happy for a proper sturdy Toollbox. Extra storage is always welcome.
@billwockie3621
@billwockie3621 Жыл бұрын
Hey brother, Infinity Tools makes a 6 1/2” 20mm arbor track saw blade that will work on the M18 saw, so you don’t have to use the throw-away Milwaukee blades. Also, check out Tenryo blades for your TSC 55.
@mattmo91
@mattmo91 Жыл бұрын
Freud also makes a 6-1/2 20mm tracksaw blade...it cuts so nice.
@flex_nyc9885
@flex_nyc9885 Жыл бұрын
Majority of my power tools are milwaukee. I do have the packout system for my wall and the mobile handcart. I love Festool tools but I hate their 2003 printer looking boxes lol.
@miked1050
@miked1050 Жыл бұрын
This is the year I am going to buy a track saw. Have a bunch of projects planned this summer. Video was super informative. I have like a dozen Milwaukee batteries but really do not like the Milwaukee packout. Just takes up way too much space. Seems silly for me to pick festool because I like the systainer system much better....I dont know. Could you do me a solid and let me know how the milwaukee saw fits in the systainer?
@tom.coomes
@tom.coomes Жыл бұрын
Awesome review, thank you! I went with the Kreg after you reviewed that one and I couldn’t afford the Festool. Hopefully Flex comes out with one so I can get that as a cordless saw. Until then I will stick with the corded Kreg. I totally agree that it would be a great saw for someone who is already on the M18 line or is wanting to start it.
@TheWoodGuy69
@TheWoodGuy69 Жыл бұрын
I really hope flex comes out with one
@tom.coomes
@tom.coomes Жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodGuy69 I don’t think they will release one this year, but I would be willing to bet they will in the next couple years.
@starseeddeluxe
@starseeddeluxe 8 ай бұрын
The track saw prices are not reasonable. Only contractors can afford them. For a hobbyist it seems absurd to spend $900 on a saw and track. I think Skill makes a cordless saw and track kit for about $350.
@alexnunez4019
@alexnunez4019 Жыл бұрын
Ty
@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie
@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely going to buy the Milwaukee Track Saw Kit as I am already on the system. The upside of buying the kit from Acme Tools was the clamps being included in their kit along with the track saw carry bag, they're not included anymore. Wish I would've seen the video sooner. Are the clamps proprietary as well or can we use any track saw clamp out in the market already?
@RealTechSkills
@RealTechSkills Жыл бұрын
From my research I believe that the best track saw on the market are made by Mafell. I did months of research before purchasing the Mafell MT55cc track saw. I also opted for the Bosch tracks (made by Mafell with Bosch logo/colors) since they are exactly the same as Mafell's, but costs less. My only regret is that I waited so long before buying a track saw.
@cchavezjr7
@cchavezjr7 Жыл бұрын
I have a Makita but switching to Mafell. My main cordless tools are all Milwaukee but for me going Milwaukee wouldn't be much of a change from the Makita. The Mafell tracks are much better, made of steel and can be joined and align much better as opposed to the Makita.
@Jessersadler
@Jessersadler Жыл бұрын
could be a drinking game. Take a shot everytime he says, "we'll talk about it later"
@marcobaldi9697
@marcobaldi9697 Жыл бұрын
Great video, how would those tracksaws compare with the Bosch Biturbo?
@joe_ferreira
@joe_ferreira Жыл бұрын
I am not 100% sure on this but my assumption with the foam on the lid is that if you drop/break the pack out you can replace it with a new one from a big box store and transfer the rubber pad and organizer insert. I would rather it use Velcro. But that's probably why it's sticky and removable.
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 Жыл бұрын
You need to compare the 2-battery Makita, now that you've covered most of the other bases.
@davidewing1779
@davidewing1779 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he'd be happy to do it if you purchased and sent him one. ;)
@bdm1000
@bdm1000 8 ай бұрын
I've been eyeing that Festool for a year now, but I ended up buying the Milwaukee last night. The problem I have with the Festool is the anti-kickback feature. Kickback is so rare that Makita doesn't have any kickback protection. But the Festool can only react to kickback. The Milwaukee and similar designs with a riving knife actually prevent it from occurring in the first place. Add to that ONE battery, anti-tip, etc... and a thinner blade than even the newer Festools, and I think the Milwaukee is every bit as good if not better, and it's less expensive.
@brentfowler2317
@brentfowler2317 Жыл бұрын
Matt, awesome video on the new Milwaukee tracksaw! I'm a Milwaukee tool user, so I can't wait to pick one up. However at that price point I'm gonna wait a while longer, lol. I have to wonder if the High Output 12.0AH battery would make a noticeable power difference? I digress. Thanks for the great content. Take care
@AERuffy
@AERuffy Жыл бұрын
Wont fit, You can put the battery in but you cant get your hand over the handle after
@LivingWithDragon
@LivingWithDragon Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I thought for sure you would mention the lack of an automatic blade locking system while changing the blade. That is a nice feature on the festool.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it has a lock button though. Not a big deal, IMO
@LivingWithDragon
@LivingWithDragon Жыл бұрын
@@731Woodworks I agree. Just another difference.
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 Жыл бұрын
@@731Woodworks when are you going to compare the Mafell track saw
@tommygun5038
@tommygun5038 Жыл бұрын
@@rickyperkins232 ....Mafell is in another league. Wish i could own one.
@danwinder6687
@danwinder6687 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. I have the Makita 36 volt dual battery. Personally I feel it’s better than the over priced Festool. Test after test have shown the Makita outperforms the Festool. I would be interested in some tests between the Milwaukee and the Makita. Thanks!
@DixieNormous1
@DixieNormous1 Жыл бұрын
I also bought the Makita 36v dual battery track saw. Couldn't be happier, definitely a lot cheaper than this Milwaukee
@dougfowler6898
@dougfowler6898 Жыл бұрын
Another vote for the Makita, it’s amazing, love that 36v
@williammorales8204
@williammorales8204 Жыл бұрын
For electric I would go festool, for battery needs I would go milwaukee since I"m on the platform. I'm leaning to a festool one bc I don't need a cordless one.
@processing6140
@processing6140 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video, I will have more information on why I should buy the track saw when I explain it to my wife.
@frenchyroastify
@frenchyroastify Жыл бұрын
One thing I found out the hard way is that Festool doesn't warranty accessories. At all.
@denisoriordan6739
@denisoriordan6739 Жыл бұрын
Need to get a Milwaukee dust extractor? And does it fit the Makita track better with the anti-tip?
@korrupt4
@korrupt4 7 ай бұрын
great video, do you think milwaukee will ever make a corded version of this?
@gXXrGoNe
@gXXrGoNe Жыл бұрын
I'm already in the Milwaukee platform but... at that price range you are 100% correct. It should at minimum have all the same features. There is also the case that not all track accessories are fully compatible. TSO came out saying their products aren't fully compatible. I'm sure it's a tolerance thing and if both products are at opposite extreme of their tolerance it may not work. At the saw price not sure I'd be will to take that risk. Lastly, I don't do construction so a wired solution isn't a huge deal. May be slightly less convenient but if you don't know any better then you won't miss it. I purchased a Makita wired track saw. Meets my needs for a better price and their tracks are fully compatible with Festool track accessories. Might not have those fancy features but hey I don't own a SawStop either. Just have to pay more attention and do my best to eliminate any potential hazards that can cuz an accident. Ignorance is bliss right!
@arlcrane
@arlcrane Жыл бұрын
Can you supply a link or info on the TSO comment. I've not seen anything, and can't locate any such comment about compatibility with the Milwaukee.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Go check out WittWorks KZbin channel. He has it on a Short video
@oleman490
@oleman490 Жыл бұрын
well being an old man and on social security as my main source of income I won't have to worry about which to choose for my needs;;;;lol;;;If I can't build what I want to build with what I have I don't need it;;;all my tools are old like me and all have their quarks to make fairly accurate and I am used to the features;;;also there is no more room in my shop for more tools;;;however have been thinking about downsizing;;I have at least three of every tool one needs in a shop with the exception of jointer;; only have one old craftsman four inch so limited on use with some things;;;all battery tools ryobi;;;including ten inch miter saw which I like;;;had to fine tune but works for me;;;;;however for those who want tools that do all the work for them both look great;;;just measure mark and push and automatic control;;;;lol;;;;I had my own straight cut jigs so to speak for various widths for straight edge cutting;;;;making sure enough pressure applied to keep saw going straight down jig on what cuttin;;;;thumbs up and keep us up to date
@siraadam4343
@siraadam4343 Жыл бұрын
The innovation in the new track saw is the red “Milwaukee” logo. a And based on the price of their other tools, it costs a lot to put that on there😂
@thomasgcampbell
@thomasgcampbell Жыл бұрын
This is why I got fed up and went ahead and bought the Makita last year, even though all my battery-powered tools are Milwaukee.
@gregghernandez2714
@gregghernandez2714 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this excellent comparison, although I am still a little conflicted. Here is what happened: apparently my insurance company has been overcharging me for my auto insurance over the past year, so they recently sent me a check for a little over a grand! Pretty sweet. Of course I am going to use the funds to get myself a new toy. I love my Makita track saw, but heck, I think it is time for something new. I am leaning towards the Festool TSC 55 KEB, because it will give me an excuse to eventually buy their excellent dust collection system. One can never have too many tools and for me, accuracy is King!
@kevinintheusa8984
@kevinintheusa8984 Жыл бұрын
I would buy a Festool Domino before I would invest in a track saw. Years ago I made two tracks for my old corded saw. One was 5 feet and the other is 9.5 feet. Both hang on the wall in my garage and I can cut sheet goods all day long on them. Plus, I made them both with an aluminum channel, and my saw rides in the channel and you can cut 45 degrees with no tipping. Both work great and I made them both for less than 30 bucks total. I have recently upgraded to the Cordless Dewalt saw so I had to recut both but they work and cost a lot less than either of these options. I break down sheet goods quite a bit when making cabinets but I find that my way works. Good video but both are just too expensive for what they do.
@patricklacasse2877
@patricklacasse2877 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video thank you
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@laukc7085
@laukc7085 2 ай бұрын
The best part of the Milwaukee is all the battery choices you have. Need more runtime, get a 12.0 pack. Need more power for some reason, get the forge battery. Add in the warranty and the abundance of stores that carry Milwaukee tools, makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
@kenerickson4923
@kenerickson4923 Жыл бұрын
Ryobi and Milwaukee are all part of the same TTI company. I'm not surprised that they released the Ryobi first.
@DKWalser
@DKWalser Жыл бұрын
I wish Milwaukee offered a corded version of this saw. While I can see the advantage of a battery powered saw in some circumstances, I don't see it for use in a shop. You're going to want to use it with a dust collection hose attached, so the electrical cord isn't much of an added hinderance. Instead, the battery adds extra weight and future expense. Batteries wear out and are expensive to replace.
@Jesusistheonlyway549
@Jesusistheonlyway549 Жыл бұрын
I am glad I went Festool. We decided to buy our second tools first and are just starting out. We do have some Milwaukee tools but they’re mitres are not the best so decided to just make the leap to Festool.
@m.d.d.3051
@m.d.d.3051 Жыл бұрын
The yellow guys make the best miter saws, imo. I'm a pro trim/finish carpenter/woodworker, and for the 20 years I've been doing it, I've used nothing but yellow as far as the miter saws go.
@Jesusistheonlyway549
@Jesusistheonlyway549 Жыл бұрын
@@m.d.d.3051 thanks, maybe I’ll consider them next time. So far my Kapex is cutting through wood like butter.
@mattmayes599
@mattmayes599 Жыл бұрын
Reading the specs on the kerf of the blade on Milwaukee and Festool... The Milwaukee is equivalent to 2.2mm and the newer Festool blades are 1.8mm. Should help with a longer runtime before changing batteries.
@chrispaul4072
@chrispaul4072 Жыл бұрын
If it takes to much space in your shop I don’t mind taking it off your hands!! Could Really use that saw
@marcxu6173
@marcxu6173 10 ай бұрын
Both are very good , ❤❤❤love both 😂
@kjc10
@kjc10 Жыл бұрын
Great work on the video. A couple replies: -riving knife will mitigate most kickback outright. I have the bosch saw and the instance of kickback I experienced actually lifted the saw lifted the saw up and backwards off the rail (and left some knicks in the aluminum) . It has no riving knife but needs one. I don't know if a track based anti reverse feature would've stopped it. -the xc 5.0 battery is OK for intermittent tasks where capacity is more important than sustained intense application (high discharge). The high output range are drawing electricity from more battery cells at once, which keeps the apparatus cooler and also more efficient. You're running fewer current thru more channels instead of lots of current thru fewer channels. Even tho its the same total, the transmission is more efficient in HD range. I understand this is how milwakuee's 18v holds up against the 40v makita and 60v dewalt etc. -The blade arbor is 20mm , so you can run bosch, makita, etc 6.5" blades on this unit - as long as it is the same kerf thickness as the riving knife. not necessarily proprietary
@teddybeardesigns
@teddybeardesigns Жыл бұрын
Great review. The prices are similar but how often is festool on sale? Everything I've bought of Milwaukee came with a free tool or free battery or a good discount. I would assume by Black Friday this will have some kind of discount or promo.
@dholbrook08
@dholbrook08 Жыл бұрын
Hey, a point for Milwaukee...if you are a veteran, you can pick up the pack-out kit for only $575.10. Im not sure of any military discounts on Festool.
@ligngood3787
@ligngood3787 Ай бұрын
Awesome video!! Can the Milwaukee be adjusted so that the shoe allows it to fit exactly to have zero clearance on the strip already cut by another saw so that both Festool and Milwaukee can be used on the same rail and BOTH saws will have true zero clearance without having to change the strip?
@mikemccrary2831
@mikemccrary2831 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Matt. I was wondering how you square up your track to get a square cut? Thanks!
@robertsei5605
@robertsei5605 Жыл бұрын
Measure on both ends and match the track Or even better, use a track Square such as the TSO product or Woodpeckers
@makingstuff242
@makingstuff242 Жыл бұрын
debating between the M18 vs makita... leaning towards makita though
@user-zd7id9rx3f
@user-zd7id9rx3f 10 ай бұрын
The Festool multifunction table allows their rail to be mounted on a hinge so it can be easily flipped out of the way when changing pieces and then locked down again when cutting. Will the Milwaukee rail properly mate with that hinge system?
@batmansdad3195
@batmansdad3195 Жыл бұрын
All these track saws and so far kreg gas nailed it on making a right handers saw.
@glennm449
@glennm449 Жыл бұрын
Bosch needs to get more love. They make outstanding tools
@RobertBarth1
@RobertBarth1 Жыл бұрын
I own both the corded and cordless Bosch track saws. They're every bit as good as the corded Festool, which I also own (actually, quite a bit more powerful, IMO).
@Rompestromper
@Rompestromper Жыл бұрын
Mafell is my team red, much better then any other saws including the festool. Good review
@mrt7512
@mrt7512 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do a Makita track saw comparison? You really outlined the features and differences between the two. Thanks
@boonecowoodwerks2682
@boonecowoodwerks2682 Жыл бұрын
For your own edification, Techtronic Industries or TTI makes Ryobi, Ridgid (non plumbing tools) and Milwaukee tools in a good-better-best tiered offering.
@gmi109
@gmi109 4 ай бұрын
I got this saw for $350 on a sale and got a 110" Wen track for $90. Not too shabby and the saw works great! Even the anti-tip feature seems to work on the Wen tracks.
@DeathLikeWebz
@DeathLikeWebz 3 ай бұрын
I just got the milwaukee saw and router for 389! Good to know the wen track works for the milwaukee
@MrJamesv004
@MrJamesv004 Ай бұрын
@@DeathLikeWebz How did you manage to get that deal?
@DeathLikeWebz
@DeathLikeWebz Ай бұрын
@@MrJamesv004 It was a home depot special deal somehow behind the scenes. It was kinda like pick 2 tools deal and somehow I managed. I legit thought the app was broken lol
@genelynne9628
@genelynne9628 Жыл бұрын
I saw the TSO 90degree guide attached to the milwaukee track, do you know if the Benchdog guide is also compatible due to the thickness of the center being slightly bigger than festool's?
@5280Woodworking
@5280Woodworking Жыл бұрын
Insightful review. I’m a huge team red fan, but not giving up my Festool anytime soon. The “off track” features are interesting but I’ve cut THOUSANDS of feet, never off the track. Just don’t get it. The MW case is just better IMHO but I’m a certifiable packout collector. I do wonder though, maybe I should pickup a 106 MW track for rips instead of having to sell my first born.
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