Mimic Characters In Fighting Games

[@thatguyoverthere1410]

When I was a kid I had an idea of a mimic character called copycat. He was a anthropomorphic cat man with a suit and that's how far my creativity went.

[@d3nny_s3mpai]

Hm, it seems I'm far from the only one with ideas since childhood I spouse your kid self didn't had much of a wide options to make your character stand out without being odd or generic. I as someone who always dreamed to be game dev on the same level as someone like Harada or Kojima, I would've worked around your idea 🤔

[@glossedi]

i fw that

[@noishfanboy1141]

Bro knew what he was doing putting an old guy called 'edge master " in the thumbnail

[@fuckiopussigetti453]

That's me when I break out the book of slurs

[@baziworld]

come on, how could he not include Honoko into this list...when i read the title, she was first person who i remembered

[@wungomungo6177]

You're a projecting porn addict

[@ItsDarkZero]

Mokujin reached his final form copy moveset on tag tournament 2

[@shvy100]

combot in ttt2 could've had any moves from every characters mixed at your will, not to mention he got 1 unique throw for him

[@mohammadzukriezan767]

I want mokujin in Tekken 8

[@Qublidon]

A chance to see a True Tekken GOD in an offline tournament would be THE best thing to see.

[@Lizarius]

I feel obligated to mention that Rogue in Capcom's VS series was a move stealer as well. Was kinda hoping to see her mentioned in that section, so here I am crying about it. With the "um actually" out of the way, fun video, more interesting and in-depth than expected when I clicked it. Good on ya~

[@yud5980]

Yes, especially in SFvsXmen

[@lisabaldeo8418]

Double from skull girls second encore is almost the definition of mimic character the other characters even have alts when double transform into them

[@bog4612]

4:36 "Prohibited to play as Rugal" XDDDDDDDDD

[@miceeater69420]

"i myself am a master of edging" 💀

[@Tom3kkk]

wtf I didnt know mokujin can talk this has massive lore implications for Mokujin's return in Tekken Tag Tournament 6 as a 30$ dlc!

[@dragun_boss0121]

Where did he talk

[@Ramsey276one]

Didn't talk in the first game, at least. (Ending was still hilarious!)

[@liamsemicolon]

​@@dragun_boss0121 tekken 5

[@Geferulf_TAS]

>tekken falls to "accesibility" >we will never have Mokujin again >we will never have Combot again It's over

[@Lenoh]

>we will never have Combot again Random Box is thataway, we stan the guy that changes every _round,_ not every _match._

[@VarsityAthlete04]

Sad times for us Mokujin males

[@strykah92]

@@Lenohwell if we’re talking about who is just conceptually better for a mimic character and putting all nostalgia aside then Combot > Mokujin

[@Lenoh]

@@strykah92Putting all nostalgia aside, Mokujin has appeared more recently than Combot.

[@strykah92]

@@Lenoh well it’s no secret Mokujin has appeared in more games, but I’d say that’s a side effect of Namco trying to be overly ‘safe’ after the notorious backlash T4 received (most of it was deserved). But changing mimicking per round can easily be implemented for Combot too, it’s not some character shtick lol.

[@tonisnooker]

I think main reason lorewise if considered Mokujin only resurrects whenever there is something beyond evil like Ogre and another thing from business/licensing with guest fighters (Ponders in Charade from Soul Calibur*) If I remember correctly Squire Enix made a lot of fuss regarding Noctis (they kinda reimbursed for it by lending the stage assets and music for them) having his moveset likeliness being utilized by either Mokujin or Combot though aforementioned shuts it down. I hope he returns in Tekken 8 and without any external issues

[@kakugowaii5854]

In DoA there are a couple amalgamation mimic characters. Raidou, his daughter Honoka, Nyotengu and Phase 4. Raidou has moves from the original DoA1 cast only since he's that game's final boss, with a fireball and an EWGF unique to him, and Honoka copies moves from characters from DoA2 onwards, along with a unique "rekka" stance that can lead to some nasty mix-ups. Nyotengu possesses a more fleshed out moveset of a previous boss character Bankotsubo, including a flying stance and a hurricane zoning tool. And Phase 4 is a clone of Kasumi who trades her low risk, highly adaptable moveset for teleports that she can use to mix you up or extend combos. Figured I'd mention them because DoA deserves more love

[@Teriirii]

I was just about to conment this cuz ngl i was shocked honoka wasnt in this

[@anon3631]

I am edging to this video rn

[@rodrigomarcondes5857]

You would think that with the power of the Ps5's ssd they would be able to make shang tsung morph into every character again for the first time ever in 3D, but nope. Ever since 3D, Shang Tsung is not Shang Tsung anymore he's just some angry wizard.

[@terry.1428]

That would be extremely broken

[@rodrigomarcondes5857]

@@terry.1428 If they did it like they used to in the 2d era, no it would not be broken. Shang Tsung is not top tier in any of the classic MK

[@holeeshi9959]

he can morph into his opponent for the last 3 games and got several moves baked into his movesets from other fighters in MK11. loading characters is definitely a issue, but if Shang Tsung gets the morph into opponent + a few moves from other characters + have a few basic attack be a shapeshift that would be fine enough.

[@agamertagiguess2220]

EDGE MASTER?

[@Qublidon]

😓Man, though, appreciated, the fixation on things being "Balanced" has made the devs look at these fun characters as massive Red Flags, too complex to approach. In the late days of TTT2, I feel videos on how Mokujin in TT2 got better and easier combos as certain chacs, scared the devs for the next games. But people ignored how other movesets were severly hindered with Mokujin's size and shape. Which I thought was a fair and balance situation.

[@tedjomuljono3052]

Kilik & Sophitia being mimics in Soul Calibur V is one of the randomest thing ever

[@officialteamsombie]

i didnt realize you were mokujin guy for a second i was watching through this and said "man this video is great i wonder if this guy also watches those tag 2 mokujin combo videos" then you were that guy love this direction though, wouldnt mind some more

[@AttitudeIndicator]

was disappointed edge master was a mimic character cause he's the coolest design in that game

[@meganinten0078]

Glad to see someone who remembers Geegus *(Gelatinous Execute and Exterminate Genotype Ultimate Soldier)* The World Heroes series is underrated and deserves more love. About Geegus, he is fully playable in the Super Nintendo/Super Famicom port of World Heroes 2 He can defend himself in his base form in that port which is kinda cool. I would like to see Geegus in a new SNK crossover game.

[@Ramsey276one]

3:25 when I reached this comment!

[@KnightLineArtYT]

I like the "Composite/Amalgam" style like Ogre and Necrid. Something about taking bits and pieces into a single weirdo is neat. Though like you said, Mokujin is the Honored One in his style of Mimmick. Rogue and Android 21 also copy moves to a degree(but weirdly enough Mystique in Mutant Academy doesn't pull a Shang Tsung?) Not sure how to place Super Buu in Budokai 2 and 3, where he can copy certain characters, but not everyone.

[@Turai12]

Unknown is my fave mimic. Part because she looks awesome part because you can change to another random character if you get someone you have absolutely no idea how to play.

[@ChiefTakinawa]

Damn, I was literally going to make a video like this because of how much I miss Mokujin 😂 Good on you for noticing. The FGC is killing certain aspects of what made fighting games so special back in the day. No hate to them but I miss mimic characters and unlocking characters.

[@trellwhitehurst6670]

Unlocking characters? That shit can stay in the past. Half of the characters had some ridiculous requirements to unlock them. Then you had games like Capcom vs SNK 1 and Marvel vs Capcom 2 where unlocking characters were unnecessarily tedious. People claim they don't have to have the time or patience to learn fighting games as it is. I doubt bringing that back would all of a sudden change that.

[@ChiefTakinawa]

@@trellwhitehurst6670 it’s understandable you feel that way. I just miss the feeling of mystery about fighting games. Now you know everything about it before it drops and I just don’t feel the same joy anymore. DLC characters don’t quite give the same satisfaction. Announcement trailers are hype, don’t get me wrong; but after that first rush that’s pretty much it. Don’t get me wrong, I know it will stay in the past. Nostalgia plays a big part in this opinion. I liked MVC2 and CVS1 tedious unlocking systems, because it made everything feel earned. Going to a friends house and being like “oh wow, how’d you unlock (insert character)?!”. This is ignoring the FGC, and entirely going off of enjoying the experience of spending time playing the game as a whole not trying to master a single character.

[@trellwhitehurst6670]

@@ChiefTakinawa you weren't going to have that feeling of mystery even if they still had it because of the internet. No way in hell you enjoy the tedious unlocking in CVS1, especially with how stingy they were with the points.

[@ChiefTakinawa]

@@trellwhitehurst6670 that’s another issue all together, obviously. But, I did enjoy finally unlocking Morrigan, Evil Ryu, Evil Iori, and Nakoruru in CVS1. As I said, nostalgia bias. Not afraid to admit it.

[@EldenRingBuildsArchive]

FGC’s laziness is to blame regarding unlocking characters, I remember a Quan Chi main in MK9 having to complete ASAP the story every time they entered a live tournament in order to use this character, because the organisers couldn’t be bothered to have a complete save

[@akmalfakhruddin7285]

And also Amalgamation character from Dissidia Final Fantasy is Bartz. He copied moves but also twist a bit (sometimes combines or straight up copy) from other Cosmos aligned characters.

[@SnowRemnant]

If the FG youtuber likes KOF its an instant sub for me. But knowing the concepts for Rugal just shows its a real one.

[@12DAMDO]

i miss Mokujin

[@aceattorneygeneral3922]

Edge master is such a wild name lol

[@dabba_dabba]

Rogue in the Capcom versus series good steel moves in some of the games as well. In fact, now that I think about it there's a couple of characters that could be considered mimic characters in that series more or less

[@Qublidon]

Yoshi's move steal gimmick is something I've always hope for a return. As an alternative Flash.

[@vincentthe1st]

Ey you forgot about Dr. B in tekken 3. Having an input dedicated to copying heihachis entire moveset for a single move, while also having a bunch of other peoples moves speckled around

[@shaynehughes6645]

While everyone else was playing Link in Soul 2, I was a Charade main. Thanks for keeping the faith.

[@timothykessler5029]

bro please make a long ass mimic character tier list video. i would absolutely watch that

[@gpbear4]

the Cycloids, Ace and Cell from Arika’s games are really cool

[@Masonicon]

Those characters are Fighting game equivalent of Peter Petrelli

[@oz_jones]

Someone was so goated that the arcade banned Rugal from being played. Bless. EDIT: Multiple arcades.

[@edmundblackadder2741]

The cool thing with Mokujin in the TAG games specifically Tag 2 is he could be actually quite broken essentially giving you 2 Kings or 2 Laws turning the whole tag meta on its head.

[@Tom3kkk]

Armor king is massively different from normal king, the only thing that they are similar in are the fact they both have chain throws and some of the grabs use the same inputs

[@doctorduck5741]

Robot kyle guilty gear isuka my beloved

[@devinweathers7520]

I adore mimic characters the are most interesting bunch my favorite oldcadan , mokujin

[@hecksters423]

10:10 Basically, Mokujin is that one Shaq meme: Devil-Mishima family drama? A mimir Azazel?! *Real shit!*

[@Akivili420]

I love it 😂 Mokujin soon my brothers and sisters. About Xmas time I am calling it now❤

[@Hypn01013]

There is also double in skull girls too but idk if she necessarily counts but she exists

[@kirbowaffle]

they call me the edge master

[@jaodasilva7993]

My favorite type of mimic are the ones that pretend to be a chest and bite people to death

[@MagicIsaacSage]

Street Fighter 1 (released in 1987) had Ken as a mirror image of Ryu, and he was only playable as Player 2.

[@KCOCxFINGER]

Agreed Ken was always a copy of ryu until they fleshed him out as his own unique shoto.

[@KCOCxFINGER]

Agreed Ken was always a copy of ryu until they fleshed him out as his own unique shoto.

[@DianaProudmoore]

I guess my fav mimic character in fighting game is mokujin~ Tbf, I've played a lot if fighting games when I was a kid but mokujin is the first thing that comes in my mind when I think of mimic or copy characters~

[@thatsjustcolin3208]

WAIT THE WHAT MASTER???

[@Mixa_Lv]

I expected at least something on Mokujin since it seems to be the honored one, but I guess I'll check out the video you linked

[@SakuyaIyazoi]

The greatest amalgamation character Tekken 7 leroy

[@darienb1127]

So my mind jumped to Double from Skullgirls, but she actually ISN'T a mimic character! She does transform into a lot of the roster, but they are all unique moves. What so cool about Double though is that a lot of her moves where she transforms are scrapped moves from other characters. So she's basically everyone's leftovers with some original spice thrown in. I've never seen any other game do this!

[@Crooked_Mantis]

Harada's Poll for Mokujin was like, really recent, give them a chance to take the input and make him a Seasonal Update roster addition. That's what they're doing for Eddy and they already have three slots for the other seasons of this year. There's a chance he could still be in Tekken 8.

[@reillocb]

I actually fell in love with amalgamation characters because of double from skullgirls

[@normalpersonlivingtheirlife]

Bro brought up mimic characters and shapeshifters without bringing up the GOAT SF3 Twelve

[@chinmokuart]

Olcadan on TOP! I love my dorky owl boy.

[@fliperchines]

Favourites Shapeshifter: Akari (The Last Blade Series) Movestealer: Rougue (X-Men vs Street Fighter) Amalgamation: Doctor Bosconovitch (Tekken 3 ver.) Copycat: Mokujin (Tekken)

[@DoomRater]

Spinal is an odd one I didn't even know about for a long time

[@kitsunetengoku1467]

you forgot the cool guy bot from fighters destiny 2 in the n64! he has the entire command inputs of the entire cast!

[@baloonfart8082]

Seth got that amalgam of moves + copy, and don't forget Rogue in all the Marvel fighting games draining skills :)

[@LordBarros]

Technically Ken is the first. He was just a reskin of Ryu in Street Fighter 1.

[@leocarroll1948]

i hope we get mokujin back in tekken 8, i miss my wooden boy so much

[@Blaziken20052000]

My personal faves are Duodecim Bartz and Android 21. Mimics are cool.

[@lyanporto]

we want that extended cut

[@pious83]

Remember when Shang Tsung was a Shapeshifter? NRS doesn't...

[@kaihedgie1747]

Ya left out Inferno in all this. He could not only mimic characters and not only got attack bonuses based on who he mimicked, but has his own unique moves he can use separate from the playable cast. Also, Edge Master has an exclusive move when mimicking Kilik, which is just an additional hit to his Down+A, A attack. That later got added to Kilik in Soulcalibur 2 onward and was made into part of his Soul Charge moveset in SCVI Aside from Inferno and Shang Tsung, my other favorite mimic character is Double from Skullgirls. Rather than simply copying a moveset or specific moves, her attacks have her quick shifting into other characters. What's more is that the moves she uses are ones that the other characters were originally intended to have, but were scrapped and repurposed just for her use. For example, she uses a gun when transformed into Parasoul that can be angled to ricochet off the floor. While she does have a gun in cutscenes and the webcomic, it kind of clashes with her playstyle as a trap-based zoner and people would just use the gun instead of the bombs

[@sapremia]

All I'm saying is no other clone character appeared in Half Life VR but the AI is Self Aware.

[@arktype586]

This video was amazing!!! Quality content right here

[@reda29100]

10:20 speaking of venting, *WHERE IS THE IMPOSTER?!*

[@TheUltraKekster]

Bro's really named Edge Master

[@verbage432]

I think you should do a part 2 of all the ones you didn’t cover! I think a major one is Ryu in MvC who has the ability to transform into Akuma or Ken when he’s level 3

[@Ramsey276one]

I HAD forgotten THAT!

[@Elkantar_Rostorgh231]

Shinnok in Mortal Kombat 4 actually used to be a move stealer.

[@unr34L-]

No Shujinko? I feel like he represents mimic more than Shang ever could.

[@Fireafyanimations299]

Not mentioning Rubber Soul from JJBAHFTF when talking about copycat characters is the worst crime anyone has ever created

[@LordBarros]

Rubber Soul was mentioned toward the end.

[@DudeMcPunchy]

robo ky in Isuka also steals moves

[@billyfingal2992]

Bald move not to mention the Great Puma from Pro Wrestling (NES)

[@carolsilva-em7zr]

Your fav game is tekken? Especifically the 3rd one? Cause the bgm was totally the tekken 3 osts. And your main was Law?

[@Gargoyle_75]

Rogue in X-Men fighting games?

[@Lordjimbo75]

Would shujinko count in mortal kombat deception he has unlockable moves that are just other characters moves

[@FortuneKOF]

UMK3 Shang Tsung TAS reminds me how revolutionary the char is. Shang himself isnt s bad character, great special moves just no pop up launchers which means you'll be transforming into ninjas or kabal 😅

[@SalveASMR]

I'd love to be an Edgemaster myself.

[@MicheleQt]

My favorite mimic character is Rubick from Dota 2!

[@shep9194]

How Did he not mention Double but he mentioned sonic fighters

[@Quatro921]

Not mentioning double from skullgirls is an absolute crime 😢

[@Ramsey276one]

Thumbnail: Soul of Mokujin 12Edge Challenge

[@terry.1428]

Mimic/Composite characters will always be my favorite archetype, love running Shang with Shujinko in MK1

[@bones2271]

EDGE MASTER

[@Kovacsg729]

IF COMBOT DOESNT COME BACK AS DLC IN TEKKEN 8 I WILL BE PISSED

[@santocomet]

Give me my 1 hour video of copycat characters. Also about the kung fu game i would consider them more of a clone than mimic, if you were to include non-playable characters

[@trillwill93]

Loved it, subscribed

[@mamodokod]

Bro i wish i could just play marionette in darkstalkers cuz i love the design

[@darkdoctor1915]

I wish smash would do that, not counting Kirby’s inhale

[@WilliamGamer89]

Forgot to mention my wife Rogue from X-Men vs Street Fighter on the move stealer section, but doesn't matter, very good video!

[@mitrimind1027]

What about body swapping like Captain Ginyu in dragonball fighting games?

[@andy3074]

We Need EdgeMaster Back In Soulcalibur 7!

[@Guitar-Dog]

Tier 2 and the honured one are the same??? Im sure combots got different combos no? Realized you are gobbo so youll know, never heard your voice. Good video. I want mokujin in T8

[@bluetooth4916]

9:10 is that a Yu-gi-oh card.!?!?

[@beboparc2378]

tweaking because double wasnt mentioned fr

[@randomguy-re7mi]

Also olcadan soul calibur 3

[@stevesardi4826]

Wasn't shinnok a mimic character in mk4 too?

PROIBIDO JOGAR COM RUGAL

[@23lief86]

For the positive, there's a chance that Mokujin might come back in Tekken 8 as an extra character, given that now there's heck a lot of requests wanting him back. Will be crazy seeing Mokujin in tournaments, because if you see a player using him, then you can be sure that player is confident about the knowledgement of every Tekken character + Mokujin hitbox differences

[@trellwhitehurst6670]

A heck of a lot of request means nothing if the result is the same as other 'highly requested' characters which is most of those same people not touching the character.

[@CorbinMorbin08]

What does that make double from skullgirls?

[@Waveburd]

No mention of spinal. Sadge