Minecart Unloader Hopper Collection Stations | Minecraft 1.20

Minecart unloading (collection) and loading system, with overload protection. Minecraft 1.20
I really struggled to find an up-to-date guide about these systems and no information at all about overload protection. So I made this video to explain it all. I hope it helps.
This KZbin adventure is new to me, so I hope you enjoy the content as much as I enjoyed creating it. All feedback is appreciated :)
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[@jimmyolsen7089]

The hopper clock is an older design by ethoslab its been common knowledge in the Redstone community and its also often referred to as an etho hopperclock

[@ianlawson94]

You sir, have given me a hint to solve a problem I have with one of my Redstone circuits. Thank you. Super cool of you to give credit to Mumbo too. Nice Video!

[@r3crypt]

Thank you for your comment. I'm so glad my video helped you :)

[@ClonserHalphalive]

The first design was the fix to what I was trying to do, I was using a repeater instead of a dust and my redstone wiring was sideways. When I thought I had it on my own, I failed myself 🙃 Thanks!

[@r3crypt]

No worries, glad you found a solution

[@airxzen1]

Thanks for this R3crypt! Simple solutions work best for me thank you!

[@r3crypt]

Hey, thanks! Can you tell me which part helped you?

[@bmart1804]

In the process of making a through portal item transportation system for my gold farm and so far this in the most compact loader/unloader that I've not only come across but it actually works. (however I run java 1.19 and your clock won't work for me, will substitute another in its place) also props for giving mumbo his credit will follow for more ideas

[@r3crypt]

Thank you. I'm actually planning to make an updated version in the near future with some new features. I can't understand why the clock isn't working for you because I'm also on Java 1.19, hmm.. Maybe give the clock another go, maybe you missed something?

[@ADHAMEDITZ]

This really helped i really needed an unloader for my bamboo farm

[@r3crypt]

Great news! I'm glad it helped 😄

[@jazzdg81]

Great video!

[@r3crypt]

Thank You Jazz 😄

[@Adler96]

Hi R3CRYPT, firstly thank you so much for this tutorial, very helpful! Also, for the automatic overflow override hopper timer set up, how many items/stacks do you put into the hopper timer? Like what's your go-to amount for reliable timing? I don't exactly know how to calculate the timing, I know hopper xfer speed is 2.5 items/second, but beyond that I am lost. Thanks again!

[@r3crypt]

Hey AJ, thank you for your lovely comment. I think the timings you need really depend on your individual needs. For example, if you want work out how long it takes to fill a chest so that the auto override sends the minecart off just as the chest becomes full, then you'll first need to count how long it takes the chest to fill the minecart chest by just watching it fill up and taking note of the time. Next with the timings for the auto clock override you should put one stack into one of the hoppers and see how long it takes to transfer the entire stack into the other hopper, and work the rest of from there, e.g. 2 stacks, 3 stacks, 3.5 stack.. etc I hope this helps

[@gamingnscience]

Heyo. That hopper clock at the end that you found in Mumbo’s design is originally credited to Ethoslab. It’s usually even refered to as Etho Hopperclock

[@r3crypt]

Hey, Thanks for letting me know about this! I just rewatched Mumbo's video, and he did actually refer to it as the Etho Hopper Timer. But he only referred to it by name and didn't specify that it came from another creator. It can be hard to determine where original designs came from. I may stop referencing creators by name altogether and simply say something like, " I found this design on KZbin." What do you think? Would this be better?

[@gamingnscience]

@@r3crypt nah, I think crediting is the right thing, even if you get it not quite right. Saying I found it on this person’s channel is the best compromise I guess. Mumbo and Etho know each other btw. Both are part of the Hermitcraft SMP.

[@r3crypt]

@@gamingnscience Ok then, I think I have the perfect solution. "Disclaimer: I don't know where the original design came from but I found this from the KZbinr.. so and so... Maybe even have it as a pop-up on screen?

[@2GoodGambling]

THANKS THIS HELPED SO MUCH

[@r3crypt]

You're welcome. Sorry about the quality. I plan to remake this video

[@2GoodGambling]

@@r3crypt been watching alot of your farms and stuff today really helpfull your fr underated

[@jorgen_10]

My advice for the overload protection would probably be to take an output from the minecart, compare it to a signal strength of 15 and then hook that back to the rail. that means that if either the hopper is empty, or if the minecart is full then it forces the minecart to go. overall a great video though

[@r3crypt]

Thanks for the advice, I'm planning to redo this video in the future to improve the quality. I'll also be looking to improve these designs and make them easier and more efficient. I'll be sure to test your idea out. Thanks agains

[@DrakeNAllen]

This is a great idea, how would i do this? just make a 15 Redstone loop from the comparator to the powered rail?

[@r3crypt]

@DrakeNAllen Compatators can be used on chests, so you could just put enough items in a chest to make it reach level 15. There is no need to create a 15 red stone loop. This would take too much space.

[@casperghost9808]

How do you read the signal with replacing the powered rail? Thats the problem with that plus torches emmit 15 you plug that into the side of the comparator to make so it only turns in when its full. The real way around this is just make a better unloader. Stick a hopper mincart ontop of 2×2 regular hopper align it as best you can to the center it'll pull the item out of inventories at 4x the speed of one hopper or the same speed as the mincart hopper. Idk why youd hook a clock up to it if it isnt collecting items if your farm is too efficient for your collection it will always back up and you'll have to keep unclogging it.

[@havokchaos6882]

It's an Etho Hopper Clock by Etho Mumbo is a redstone master as well, but not the creater

[@LucianoVeryNiceHi]

instead of using eth0s clock you should use comparator to read and evaluate signal from minecart itself to unlock it/power it's rail up or not; your loader should not depend on state of the chest being unloaded but on the state of cart being loaded or not (premise is that there's always more to unload and take away so why check unloading system when you should be checking system that's transporting and is your bottleneck here?)

[@r3crypt]

Good idea. I plan to remake this video eventually, so will test this for sure

[@user-co6rl4de3h]

how do i make that when a chest is full the hopper that goes into it transfers items straight into a chest thats below the first one (1.20 java)

[@r3crypt]

I'm sorry. I don't fully understand your question. Are you referring to the collection system or the loading system?

[@avvti]

can you do a system that makes it so the cart wont move if there arent items and times it if there are?

[@r3crypt]

Hey, this is definitely something I'll look into when I come to re-create this video.

[@HenkGootjes66]

I would appreciate more than 2 frames to pause the clock though. Besides that a good video.

[@r3crypt]

Hey, this was one of the first videos that I created for this channel. I plan to remake it in the future with improved quality.

[@jeffranzubouvoir]

Hi mate! I have a question! The Minecart will keep on riding up and down to my unloader, because there are no items to load. is it possible to keep the Minecart stay at the loading dock when the chest/hopper is empty?

[@r3crypt]

Hey, it's definitely possible. You would basically need to add on an element that detects the contents of the loading chest and then deactivates the power rail if empty. It would make the system a little bit more bulky though. I'm planning to remake this video in the future to improve the quality and add some more features. But that won't be for a while.

[@jeffranzubouvoir]

@@r3crypt hi mate! Thanks for your reply! As first thing, your video and knowledge is great! Although In was able to fix the problem. I took the loading system from someone else that makes the cart stop, but had the problem you explained about the cart not leaving when 100% full I combined that build with your timer to override the signal and now it works perfectly! Just gotta make the timing right now. Once again, thanks! Much respect and love, Jeff

[@r3crypt]

@Jeffran Zu Bouvoir Hey, no problem. But if you want the minecart to stop when empty, you may have to intergeate the powr rail cut off with the override timing system. Otherwise, the timed override will keep sending the minecart off, even when your other system has stopped it

[@jeffranzubouvoir]

@@r3crypt Hi Bro, I've tested that, and the unload/load system I used still blocks the movement if the cart,hopper or chest is empty :) I could show you if you want, I can send you a screenshot or w/e, you got discord?

[@r3crypt]

Hey, sorry for such a late reply. The way youtube displays my video's comments is really bad. I was just scrolling through older videos and noticed your reply. Anyway, I think you may have done something wrong, although my guess is that it was 5 months ago and that issue is long forgotten. But if you still need help, let me know

[@felipos17]

Does the unload station work with a chest minecart too?

[@r3crypt]

Yes, as long as the collecting hopper is underneath the minecart chest

[@samayahone3497]

with the unloader i have issues with the minecarts not always moving off again when theyve unloaded - any suggestions?

[@r3crypt]

This happens when the chest is full and the hopper still has items inside it. So, if you're finding this to be a common issue for you, then you need to use the overload protection that I demonstrated in this video

[@samayahone3497]

@@r3crypt this is definitely not the issue as i only just started the farm and it's not even had one full harvest yet. It's probably a client-side issue though so dont worry.

[@r3crypt]

I'm client side also, and even with lag, the unloader works normally. I think maybe double-check your circuits. Test the overload protection by filling up the chest and hopper. If the overload protection doesn't work, then you've done something wrong. If it suddenly works, then yes, perhaps something wrong with the client. Best to test it to know for sure.

[@samayahone3497]

@@r3crypt the circuits are definitely right. I moved the loader further away from the farm and it seems to be working now. I think maybe the carts were picking something up on their way out to the main rails while also close enough to the hopper to put it in unloading mode which caused the glitch. I explained that horribly but it works now and that's what matters lol. Thanks for the help though!

[@r3crypt]

Ah, no worries. I'm glad you've got it fixed 🥳

[@Flyer5]

Hi, I have been looking for a smart loading system with a minecart chest for transporting items but the ones I have tried don't work for transporting items to a chest leading to a sorting system. hope you can help. by the way this is for bedrock 1.19

[@r3crypt]

Hi, thanks for your comment. Have you tried these loading systems yet? I'm unsure if they work for bedrock, but should be worth a try as they're fairly simple designs, so you might be in luck

[@Flyer5]

@@r3crypt I have tried all of them and they don't work how I need them too

[@r3crypt]

@@Flyer5 I think you should break down each element so you can focus on a workaround for the problem area. Some elements might work on bedrock, whilst others might not. If you can find the specific issue then I might be able to help you find a solution.

[@Flyer5]

@@r3crypt thank you I will try that and I will get back to you

[@flufflessMC]

So, you still need the clock to be activated when the lore reaches the loader and to be deactivated, when it arrives.

[@r3crypt]

You don't need to deactivate the clock. That's what the timer is for, it will activate and deactivate the circuit according to the time you choose (determined by the number of items you are sending back and forth)

[@flufflessMC]

@@r3crypt but the timer should start when the lore arrives. When it already started befor, it maybe only run for 2 seconds before it sends it back.

[@r3crypt]

@@flufflessMC Ah, I see your point, that is a very good idea actually. I'm planning to remake this video in the future. I'll create a way to do this in the next video.

[@flufflessMC]

@@r3crypt I worked out a even more compact solution and it will be in my next Video. It is in german, so feel free to copy the idea for the english community. Thank you for the Inspiration.

[@r3crypt]

Hey, thanks. I'll check it out

[@antezelda]

I was having a problem where the unloading dock didn't stop the minecart properly. This was because the hopper only took one item at a time, resulting in the redstone circut pulsating (wich led to the powered rail activating and sending away the minecart) A quick fix to this is to add another hopper under the rail before the powered rail, facing the hopper connected to the circut. Hope i helped someone :)

[@r3crypt]

Hey, thanks for sharing

[@antezelda]

@@r3crypt My pleasure

[@zlajachallenge9384]

still doesnt stop it for me. I have the same issue

[@Arman420_69]

Same Issue

[@MrWeekendCQ]

It doesn't work, at least on my server? Minecart is moving too fast, or, the hopper isnt registering the items being transferred and the minecart just goes back the way it came.

[@r3crypt]

You'll need to link me pictures and / or video so I can see what's happening.

[@MrWeekendCQ]

I sadly deleted the system since it didn’t work for me, but can rebuild

[@r3crypt]

Ok, no problem. If you rebuild and are still having issues, then link me a video or some pictures so I can advise you better. Good luck!

[@domzi]

Thanks for the video, good tips. But not even halfway through I got dizzy because of your mouse movement. Please do not shake your mouse so much…

[@r3crypt]

Hey Domzi, thanks for this feedback. I noticed this too. The shaking is a bit much due to the high sensitivity of my mouse. I've reduced this sensitivity for later episodes and will reduce even more if the shaking doesn't improve. Thanks again for the feedback. This really helps me to improve!

[@playplay7690]

When i put the first design i found out that you cant put them next to a another

[@r3crypt]

Oh no 😬 Yes, I imagine that would cause alot of interference between circuits

[@playplay7690]

@@r3crypt yea

[@DarkSax96]

is this currently not working for anyone in 1.20.6? Primarily the first unloader shown.

[@r3crypt]

I don't see why it wouldn't work?

[@shucksv]

​@r3crypt I have basically a copy of the first design, but a couple extra hoppers behind the unloader and it is winding rails. the rail above the hopper isn't turning off quickly enough I think, but it isn't stopping the cart to unload.

[@r3crypt]

I think something is wrong with your redstone Circuit. I've had a similar issue before. Make sure that the powered redstone at the unloader is connected to a none powered rail. If it's connected to another powered rail that is active, then the minecart won't stop. If this isn't your issue, then upload a photo or video of the unloader so I can see what's wrong and post the link here.

[@shucksv]

@r3crypt OK I had my Redstone engineer little brother help me and I believe I solved it. With a longer track more Redstone rails are needed thus the cart goes faster. I've seen a couple people with this issue only in the past couple week where the rail simply doesn't turn off fast enough and the cart bounces back too fast for the rail to stop it completely, at least on bedrock. I don't know why this is a sudden issue apparently, maybe some bug or just coincidence. If you move the Redstone circuit to the side and extend the hopper and Redstone rail at the offloader by one on the end, having two Redstone rails on the end and the comparator on the original (second in line) hopper/rail it will work as intended. The delay on the rail turning off still happens but 2 rails gives it the time to bounce back and stop on the second one before unloading then moving again.

[@r3crypt]

@@shucksv That's great news! You've got a cool little brother! I am a little confused though. Are you using a loop where the minecart will stop on a certain part of that loop to unload? Or are you stopping the minecart at one end, unloading, and then sending the minecart in the opposite direction from which it came?

[@DogeHalo398]

lol I just want the 3d rails

[@r3crypt]

😄

[@maxdenoux7263]

Why my minecart doesnt move and don't bounce

[@r3crypt]

With out seeing your design it will be hard to tell. If you're referring to the return end then... the minecart needs to be on powered rail, which will need to be powered by a redstone torch or a redstone block

[@maxdenoux7263]

@@r3crypt i just saw that i used the wrong rail. Rookie mistake

[@r3crypt]

Glad you've sorted it 😀

[@PandaFan2443]

I have a powered rail, on a multiplayer realm, but the minecart just stops at the end.

[@r3crypt]

@nathan8556 I'm not familiar with the mechanics of a multiplayer realm. But, make sure the block at the end is a solid block. If you are using a redstone block at the end, then the minecart won't return. If you are using a redstone block, then place it underneath the rail.

[@tombell000]

My minecart won’t stop????

[@r3crypt]

Then you've built it wrong. Are you able to post a picture of the collection system online and share the link so I cam help you fix it?

[@MrBlackr0w]

etho clock

[@r3crypt]

Yep, I didn't know this at the time of recording

[@krishnegi5008]

1 loader doesn't work

[@r3crypt]

Which one?

[@r3crypt]

Which one? They all appear to work on my end. If you can post a video or some pictures of your design online, then I can help you fix the area where you've going wrong

[@Arman420_69]

​@@r3crypt I built he first one on version 1.20.4, The Minecraft doesn't stop at the hopper but keeps moving back and fourth but the items still get transferred ( 1 at a time ) What shall I do?