Minecraft's world IS FLAT | The SCIENCE of Minecraft

[@ShoddyCast]

All the counterpoints in the comments are going to give me an ulcer. I REFUSE to do another video on this topic! I REFUSE! YOU CAN'T MAKE ME.

[@gamefan6142]

Are you sure about that?

[@2_OP]

What if we ask politely?

[@TheWrathsblade]

It was some great information either way Austin, thanks for the hard work man!

[@heavymochagamer4624]

We won't stop until you kill them all Austin

[@TimmehWatson]

*screenshotted for when the next video comes out*

[@albertusvanlubeeck9161]

"How do I abuse this to make my life easier" is humanity's motto.

[@Naokarma]

Actually true statement

[@kzyrichm]

@@Naokarma Actually true statement.

[@Saltynerd]

​@@kzyrichm actually not false statement

[@Zeberence]

@@Saltynerd Actually truly a not false statement

[@Akira-Aerins]

no, that's imperialist capitalism.

[@bebejebe]

Funnily, hearing Austin yell and be distraught like this actually makes me feel like he's doing better.

[@KnittedSister]

Me too. Anger is better than numbness.

[@ahmadhesham1389]

If he's yelling it means he cares. I hope he enjoys it as much as we do lol.

[@KangarooKommando]

I always interpreted the nerdy ranting as being passionate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ohmanthatguy2443]

​@@KnittedSisterAre you sure about that?

[@brianbeswick]

How about instead of tethers made from impossiblenium we assume the bedrock of Minecraft is a superconducting magnetic rock that lines the underside of the world and we are revolving around a magnetar?

[@ShoddyCast]

If you make me do another video on flat minecraft worlds, I swear to god...

[@kylewhiteman]

Minecraft 2: Electromagnetic boogaloo

[@brianbeswick]

@@ShoddyCast it’s in your head now and the idea will eat away at your brain until you research it

[@silentnight6810]

@@ShoddyCast lol

[@agenti4734]

​@@ShoddyCast flat minecraft theory 4: electric bugaloo

[@joshandstufflikethat]

I love how it still ends with “sincerely, Austin” even though the video didn’t start with “Dear mojang/my discord server/people who won’t stop harassing me”

[@TheAngelBacon]

I love "THE SCIENCE" so much. I'm pretty sure Austin could just yell the measurements and directions for his grandma's family cupcake recipe and I would still be just as entertained.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

I kinda wanna see him do this for real, just to see if you're actually right about the entertainment value.

[@ICantThinkOfAUsername]

I gotta say man, I only really watched game theory due to THE SCIENCE, so I’m very glad that you are still continuing to upload on your own channel. It really means a lot, not only to me, but to all of us, and we want to thank you for that.

[@drthmik]

Likewise

[@lunarlegion7157]

Same

[@erinkarp]

same

[@MissInformer]

Yea, I agree. I always hated game theory, and sadly, I stopped watching THE SCIENCE content when Austin moved over there since it wasn't on a channel I was recommended anymore and I wasn't subbing to game theory just for one narrator. I'm glad he's back here. I just hope that all the changes Austin made has the effect he wanted them to, whether it be more time for family, more time for himself, or more time spent on projects he wants to do instead of what bigger players tell him to do all day. I just hope it makes him happy in the end.

[@drthmik]

@@MissInformer Let me tell you, It was HARD combing through every video to find the SCIENCE, they didn't make any distinctions so I'd have to watch a bit of any NON FNAF video to see if it was a good one, so MY recommended feed was FULL of game/movie/food Theory videos So happy that I was able to finally banish them!

[@Srootus]

God im so happy to see Austin continue to do his own stuff, genuinely missed this.

[@Jajareto]

I love when you scream, but I love it when it's on the script. It's basically your thing.

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

I'm addicted to that scream

[@nataliaborys1554]

Same, it just makes the whole thing funnier without having to add a word of script

[@HimitsuYami]

It's not a SCIENCE video without the scream

[@wryytart]

That's what I called, "Controlled Rage"

[@andregon4366]

I still remember the first video in which Austin didn't scream like a maniac.

[@cresythe5522]

As a student of physics right now, I almost understood everything about this video and it made my choice of studying physics not a waste. Also “The Science” video in opinion were one of the more entertaining formats and I’m glad your back.

[@VulpineFox7]

Agreed

[@Xi-Xi-Kaisoku]

Super happy to see the SCIENCE! is here once again. Hope you're doing well Austin!!

[@cameronjadewallace]

Didn't expect this video, but I absolutely love it. Something about Austin's voice saying science things just... Makes the world a lot more comfortable

[@Krissssz]

"Gravity" would be different between the center and the edges of the flat plane. For example, the center of the plane would be closer to the center of rotation, lowering the centripetal force, and thus the perceived gravity (compared to other regions of the plane). The edges would be the opposite, where "gravity" would be higher. A Halo shape fixes this by bending the plane (which then, is no longer flat) so that every part of it is the same distance from what it orbits.

[@SpontaneousProcess]

I think the world could be curved around the center without becoming non-flat (assuming that we’re willing to allow “flat” and “planar” to be two different things). As long as it’s not an orb, toroid, cylinder, cube, or some sort of other closed polyhedron, I think we could say it’s flat.

[@Starnite_]

@@SpontaneousProcess or if the sun and moon both orbit the world, then make the world orbit from some point really far out, you could make the forces the same more or less across the whole plane. so lets say a distance from the black hole sagitarius a to the earth and a plane the size of a minecraft world would be more like a point on a theoretical circle. to counter balance so as to not need as strong and impossible anchor either the nether or another world could be on the same spinning axis but opposite the world. as said the sun and moon would be tethered off of the minecraft world then and not typical to how its in our world. we also dont know the gravity on either so they can be flat planes closer to the world

[@AppImage]

It could just be that at the distance out it starts becoming noticeable is beyond the world border.

[@theskull1030]

He pretty much chose the distance to the center of rotation arbitrarily, though, so if the actual radius is long enough, those differences will be neglectable.

[@massimocole9689]

@@SpontaneousProcess The problem with curving the plate is it would cause the sun to appear at a different angle in the sky when he teleports across the world.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

I'd love more Minecraft videos, just maybe not ones discussing whether it's flat or not. But there's still so much to analyse, like how does the Warden's sense of hearing and smell compare to real world animals? Or what are the physical properties of the Nether and could two species of fungus evolve and grow into massive forests there? Or are the hunger and saturation values of different food items accurate? Great video Austin, can't wait to see more!

[@Croike]

It makes me smile to see you come back to KZbin, Austin. When I was younger your content was something that I would always come around to come and see, and it's great to see that you're back despite all the struggles and strife of the last few years.

[@bricvstudios]

Yes, I remember watching you all the time in prep for the release of Fallout 4 and afterward. Genuinely, I missed you and your goofy logic. You're like the video game V Sauce of 2014 ❤

[@kaejuka6249]

I'm glad you're continuing to make these. Was one of my favorite parts of the GT channel, and I'm happy to see it lives on

[@danielskorka2365]

Love seeing this channel get active again, glad to see you're in a much better place too. Great video.

[@TKDB13]

How to debunk the ludicrous cosmology in this video in 3 easy steps: 1) Start a new Minecraft world 2) Start punching trees, as one does in a new Minecraft world 3) Notice that the upper logs do not fall when the ones below are removed, thereby proving that gravity as we know it IRL does not apply here and thus the entire latter half of the video working from premises of IRL gravity physics is entirely inapplicable.

[@ThatAlchemistGuy]

How I've missed "The SCIENCE of..." videos. I'm so glad you're back at it and having fun with it. Hope you continue to do well!

[@nixsonhenderson]

Your insanity mixed with science is why I am following you here. I was beginning to wonder why I hadn’t seen any of your videos on Game Theorists. Happy to see you back! :)

[@Nightshiftwonderlands]

Oh yes. This is just what I needed today. The pure serotonin boost I got hearing that fantastic yelling at the beginning. 🎉 Glad to hear you Austin! ❤

[@opensauce04]

It couldn't make me happier that you are continuing to do science videos on your channel

[@Random_Chiroptera]

I just always assumed it was a VR simulation used to imprison the mind of a prison inmate. BTW, so awesome to see Austin back on his own channel.

[@whenthemoon]

With love and light, what the fuck made you assume that?

[@tristanemery8748]

Uhhhhhhhhhh??????? (I mean, I can kinda see it, but damn dude, this is a kids game)

[@Random_Chiroptera]

@@tristanemery8748 suuuuuure it is. That's why little kids rage quit, and adults call it a survival game.

[@blarg2429]

If you consider the End poem (the bit of creative writing that shows up before the credits when you beat the game), you're... not _quite_ right, but closer to being right than wrong. It describes both the game and real life as being self-imposed illusions we use to prepare ourselves for some kind of higher state of being. So basically a simulation, yes.

[@YagerMaelStrom]

@@Random_Chiroptera it’s a sandbox, the only reason kids rage quit is because of losing there stuff due to lava, the void or on the rare occasion, cactus, Or they rage because of servers like hypixel or something like the hive.

[@mr.h1262]

I appreciate the tongue in cheek snark in the video to appease the flat earthers 😂 It's good to see Austin back

[@MJ-98]

You've covered this topic so many times that I thought this was a reupload. Glad it isn't!!!

[@ShoddyCast]

THIS IS THE LAST TIME.

[@Thedestroyer2031]

@@ShoddyCast maybe

[@afrothekobold]

Glad you're back Austin! The SCIENCE! is my preferred playlist to put on when trying to sleep and seeing one drop in my sub box always makes my day better

[@MagnaWingX]

You Mad Man!! All the memories from your previous proposal for this model are flooding back to me and you corrected the one major gripe I had with it: the day night cycle! Now how we to fix the problem we encountered on the Halo rings regarding projectiles/gunfights?

[@MobyTheMerpup1852]

I made a play list with the 90+ videos, now it was on another playlist with 132+ videos. You’re welcome my math friend.

[@jayboyne1660]

Great to have you back Austin, the science was always my favourite videos from the game theorists 🎉

[@warrenbutson8491]

Ahhhhhh Austin I have missed hearing your voice talking about video game science. Stay healthy and keep up the awesome work, and I look forward to your next video man!

[@func_e]

im so happy that the quality of this video is the way it is. I really like this channel and Im happy you're still doing these. you were my favorite GT series, so im overjoyed that not only you continue to do this, but that you're doing it yourself. ill be here with you for as long as I can be =D

[@Starcat5]

0:23 Wait... Those Discord comments are from 2023! This isn't a re-upload, this is a *NEW VIDEO! WOO!*

[@Dryym]

I am really happy to see that I have been featured in a video. I honestly wasn't sure you would ever cover this topic until you made that discord channel and I am glad to see that you even found other ways to prove the flatness of the world separate to the ones I came up with.

[@ozthebeeman]

if we're already talking about Minecraft mistakes: the nether and by extension the end are different dimensions, NOT different parts of the Minecraft world this was confirmed cannonically by mojang

[@glenngriffon8032]

It's good to have you back Austin. Also, i fear this video may now start getting referenced by real life flat earthers.

[@youdontknowwho505]

They’ve just gotta find the tethers first.

[@nadtz]

Cept it shows in the beginning there is no way the earth is flat. The high noon thing at opposite sides of the earth alone disproves any possibility of the earth being flat.

[@glenngriffon8032]

@@nadtz you've never spoken to one of these creatures in person have you? They don't listen to reason

[@nadtz]

@@glenngriffon8032 I have and I know, just pointing out the obvious.

[@studentoferror]

I'm really glad you've started making these again. They're a rare comfort in a less and less delightful haze.

[@overestimatedforesight]

You can create a nonspherical gravitational field by having matter underneath the bedrock. More of it is on the edges to counter the inwards pull of gravity. You'd also have to account for the corners. Given that we don't see matter under bedrock, it's possible that it's in the form of black holes being contained.

[@crackedemerald4930]

Or, literal dark matter lmao

[@PeterDanielBerg]

well the number i got for p = (32m/s/s) / (2pi*384 meters*G) is a mean column density of about 200,000 g/cc, ten million times the mean density of a supermassive black hole. so it could also be that the minecraft world is much thicker than we can see since we can't dig through bedrock and there's just way more stuff under there.

[@Softie.uwu13]

So glad you're back Austin!!! Gonna miss you on game theory, but I think this is even better, since you can now get the recognition you deserve

[@ultimategreen5252]

3:52 Or the playable area could just be a tiny little chunk of the world.

[@sebastianrain6895]

austin, i’ve missed you so much! i stopped really watching game theory and i realize now it’s because i had mostly lost interest and was only watching THE SCIENCE at that point. i’m so happy you’re still making videos and that you’re feeling better now :)

[@Murmelthier]

Uuuh, nice to have my all time favourite Game-World Scientist back yelling again 🎉 ... really hope you're doing fine and had as much fun making the video as I just had watching it.

[@connormingo4489]

glad to see you back buddy! looking forward to all the content. keep up the good work!

[@yamato9753]

Yeah, more SCIENCE Videos!! I love those. I learn about science, i learn about game lore, i hear Austin scream, It's perfection!

[@nimbusnerd]

I have one small correction for something that always gets under my skin: centrifugal force does not exist. The gravity in this scenario is caused by inertia. The only acceleration is inward, being the centripetal acceleration due to the rope things. Inertia makes it feel like Steve is being pulled downward, just like when you get pushed forward when braking in a car. That's all, otherwise great video :)

[@carlborneke8641]

Austin I will just say this. I’m happy to see you do videos again. Especially after your video explaining your dark place. I wish you nothing but the absolute best because you deserve it.

[@neimenovani7256]

0:08 Thank you for seeing reason friend

[@RT-oy7mu]

I missed these. Glad that you're back on the SCIENCE! wagon.

[@ZXMFG]

Just saw your vid about "why I left GT" and honestly. YOU were the reason I kept going back to Game Theory's videos. Let it be known now, I am HERE for the content.

[@anyanP]

Yes, good old SCIENCE is back! Good to hear you screaming numbers, Austin ❤

[@surpreemleadernoot]

I thought Minecraft was round since there is a official picture showing the curve of the Minecraft planet

[@Danund81]

Austin, it's. So much worse. The sun revolves around **YOU**. Imagine taking a trip across the map? Imagine the sheer scale of damage that would cause?

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

It's so great to see a good ol The Science video again!! Fabulous work, Austin, and I hope to see more! Hope you're doing well!

[@seanduncan3958]

I enjoy your videos. Thank you for the product and the time you take to make it.

[@un-bear-able8722]

Good to have you back. Glad you are getting better. Solid video, can't wait to see what else you have cooking up.

[@colew9330]

NOOOO AUSTIN I BELIEVED IN YOU! THE ONE GOD I BELIEVED IN… I trusted you. It can’t be flat… it would need 2 Neptunes worth of fuel to create gravity for a flat world, you taught me that. Was it all a lie?

[@leen8430]

Nothing better to start the day... this is exactly the kind of stuff I've been hoping for, so glad you're back.

[@Stimm002]

The issue is the sun wouldn't look the same at sunrise and sunset. The nearest edge to the sun it would look different to the furthest edge. I always thought the walls at the edge of the world were just separating different parts of the world so they wouldn't need to match. I.e there is another walled of section of the world next to ours but we can't access it. But that also presents its own issues.

[@SpartanNat]

Watching the video and beginning a little after 8:00 I hear “Neptune, the Mystic.” What a beautiful peace of music, along with the other pieces in The Planets. It’s one of my favorite pieces of music overall. It captures so much about how we characterize each planet, and Uranus and Neptune having names of sort of mystical beings is cool, as we didn’t know the specifics about them except how they orbited our Sun and had moons (only 1 in Neptune’s case).

[@Failedlegend]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off if this theory shows up in some flat earthers video at some point

[@Spygirl812]

Oh my goodness

[@deltawolfgaming9347]

I love it when you get pumped up and scream when the video hits its climax. It gives your videos a higher energy level and gives it heart instead of sounding monotone

[@lapisdragon1237]

The Steve in the thumbnail is a cutie pie :)

[@jamesbenthul4590]

HEY AUSTIN!!! I'm a fan, and knowing about your struggles only makes me more fond of your work. Thank you for being real, and thank you for continuing your pursuit. I don't even play Minecraft. Sincerely, James.

[@suprizeoptomist4680]

32m/s² is terminal velocity in earth's atmosphere. Anyway, gravity in most video games (minecraft included) isn't a result of mass. It's just downward force applied to objects. Usually there is a modifier that is univerally applied to all objects, but can be modified independently by individual object, object types, areas of the map, etc... this happens even in games set in space, where gravity is effectively zero, and the physics engine really only has to account for velocity and momentum.

[@ShoddyCast]

nerd

[@src248]

What? Terminal velocity would be m/s not m/s², depends on the specific object's air resistance, and is way higher than that for a human

[@ShoddyCast]

Yeah I just thought of that after I replied with "nerd." Still, I respect the effort.

[@eliotoole4534]

10:01 thanks for including us (Any/all)

[@vastolorde5733]

Hope you're doing well Austin 😊

[@PhantomDogman]

~3:00 I guess because Mojang didn't code so generation match at borders that's why they also didn't make it so Minecraft world loops. I wonder if there are mods that make it appen.

[@ginironeko8254]

I might be oversimplifying this A LOT however, the sun and moon could act as a binary star system. Though instead of two stars it a star and a moon(obviously). Also might be a stretch but if the minecraft world was orbiting a blackhole(bedrock facing the blackhole) just strong enough to hold the world at the same constant distance(which would explain the player taking damage past bedrock) while the sun and moon still acting as a binary star system would that be plausible?

[@WorldWeave]

Wow…seeing Austin illustrate and explain all that goes into flat Minecraft…no…Minecraft is not flat…it is either a very large sphere, or a cube…and I will hear no arguments to the contrary

[@Unclevertitle]

14:05 Yes. Yes, I am satsfied. Legitimately, though. I found it quite interesting.

[@NinjaStevE21]

Great job! I love seeing the science videos you make!

[@tessajalloh3914]

Good to see ya Austin, looking forward to more shoddycast videos! But don't ignore your health and wellbeing, ok?

[@scuffedmusic4004]

Good vid man im actually very glad that we get just austin content now, ik leaving gt was probably dummy stressful but your content is going to do nothing but shine bro

[@Marcus-it9ss]

I’ve missed your videos so much!!!! Glad to see you’re having fun and I hope everything is doing well!

[@TommyCrosby]

I'm so glad you are back! I love getting shot mathematics formulas that I can't understand and won't ever remember but MUST watch as it make me feel smart for a minute xD

[@WillMoff0]

Glad to see you doing stuff again, came over from GT to keep getting your vids

[@Cassiopea525]

I always figured the minecraft world was like a terrarium, on a much larger world but unable to perceive beyond a certain point.

[@Cassiopea525]

The human like beings a a different size than we assume, and the development of its surface being observed by outside forces beyond perception. It would allow it to have round planet physics while also having the sun appear in the same location from the whole map.

[@haph2087]

The speed of light isn't actually a problem for an accelerating reference frame as a method of pseudo-gravity generation. This is because you were using Newtonian mechanics to calculate how acceleration works, and then expecting it to respect relativity. Instead, if you actually used special relativity, you would find that accelerating at 32 m/s/s continuously is possible, it's just that doing so won't get you to light speed. The energy problem that somehow fuels this acceleration would still be a problem, because there's no particular lore-accurate source of such movement. I think it'd make more sense to just add mass to the sheet of rock such that the normal gravity works as experimentally shown. This would require an extremely dense layer of mass at the bottom of the world (to pull stuff down appropriately), and probably to extend the edges of the world out long past the 60 milllion width (to make the gravity still point down 30 million blocks from 0,0, rather than towards 0,0)

[@trevormalkoski1611]

Welcome back Austin, it's good to see you again. I just caught up with the channel but I'm getting updates again and it's like hearing from an old friend as parasocial as that is

[@InsomniacsAnonymous36]

Centrifugal Force is not a thing. It IS NOT A FORCE. It’s an application of inertia, not in of itself a force, but the result of the CENTRIPETAL FORCE yanking it toward the center of a rotating axis while Inertia wants to fling it into a straight line in the direction of motion. This results in Centrifugal Inertia, the thing many still call a force, but it is NOT.

[@ChromiumFilms]

I love this episode!! only complaint is the font you used even though it fit the theme was really hard to read!! Glad to see you putting new stuff up!

[@BobzBlue]

It is also due to relativity that you will never reach the speed of light no matter how long you accelerate at 32m/s². But of course explosions are not pleasant.

[@KainaX122]

Yay! New “Science of” video! I made sure to sub so I don’t miss any more. I like this series.

[@victormelanda8711]

Hey, I love your channel and your screaming. You’re awesome and I’ve missed you content man.

[@PhonyLyzard]

Isn't the minecraft world canonically a cube because of the globe banner pattern.

[@loonyroxxs2482]

I love your style of content and wish the best for your future endeavors

[@TrueInvisible]

it's really good to see you back!! welcome back bro!!

[@Andrew1B20]

YES, BACK TO TRUE FORM. keep with the good work my friend!

[@lastwymsi]

MAN this video scratches an itch I didnt know I had. Good stuff Austin!

[@CrazyFlyingMonk]

hey austin its great to have videos from you and you sound calm but happier than before so im glad, thanksfor the vid

[@thatoneguy3840]

you make some of the best content ive seen on youtube. keep doing what youre doing!

[@mesaplayer9636]

I said this before when the other video came out ages ago but like you said at 11:17 the acceleration depends on how far you are from the center. So the amount you calculate would be at the location closest to the center. As you move in any direction you are increasing your distance from that point the acceleration from the spin doesn't really point towards the ground. Also the direction of gravity would be different if you went in the x direction compared to the z direction. Spinning works on a small scale or when the distance between the center spin and the plate is big compared to the plate size.

[@macksii]

Never got to watch your content ever since the switch to gt. Now it comes up on my feed again!

[@roundabout4727]

Love your content! Hope you'll have closed captions for your videos soon

[@lionheartx-ray4135]

Hell yeah great to have you back making videos like this.

[@floppydingus]

Dude it is SO GREAT to have you back. Keep up the hard work you're great. We needed this more than you could have ever know. ShodHeads for life

[@robertscott7812]

It's awesome to see videos here again, and it's even cooler to see you loving your work! I hope you're taking care of yourself and that these videos continue to be something worthwhile for you😄

[@chrisxd146]

This is a pretty good explanation of the physics that could make a Minecraft world theoretically possible. However, the issues that arise stem from a few things: 1) if the sun is fixed to the center you'd still see a slight difference in where the sun is located in the sky unless perfectly tangential to both the rising and falling edges (dawn/dusk). This fix is easy though by assuming the sun is far enough away that the differences in locations on the surface equate to a fraction of an arc minute. 2) The moon would have issues rotating around a flat square as the effects of gravity from the planet increase the closer it gets to the surface (the edges in this case). The moon would have an irregular orbit around the world which would cause an overlapping moon and sun within a few days depending on its average proximity to the surface. 3) This delves into the physics a bit more, but what makes a sphere model work so well is the uniform gravity and pressure that prevent the planet from both collapsing in on itself and losing its material to the gravitational pull of the sun. A flat planet would mean there's no pressure to balance out the gravity, this all of our material would just fly off into space the moment we started moving. There are somewhat "flat" objects that do exist in space, those primarily being spiral galaxies. However there still isn't an explanation of what exactly is adding the missing 95% of the mass which prevents the galaxy from behaving "normally". Great video and excellent job with the physics! If you ever return to the flat Minecraft theory it'd be interesting to see how you expand your model to cover more complex dynamics at play.

[@zazymendez]

I'm so glad you are back stay strong brother God bless you or just bless you but stay up ✌🏼 peace be with you & thanks for the content over the years

[@KYCDK]

dude, I love it when you shout, it's funny, it's what drew me to your videos

[@Chronicler9]

9:45 they wouldn't just go through? Like with after a tornado where we can find strands of hay inside cement blocks with no other damage to either? Or be forced around like when there's an air current around a speeding vehicle the smaller particles in the surrounding air get caught up in the current and whip around the car? ... >_> 'course a car is rounded and bigger particles like rocks DO hit windshields, but I'm just curious if there are other more anomalous outcomes at higher and higher speeds