Minelab Manticore vs XP Deus 2: Which is THE BEST Treasure Metal Detector?

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Metal Detecting NYC

Metal Detecting NYC

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@discovermetaldetecting
@discovermetaldetecting Жыл бұрын
Another great, no BS video! You are the genuine article! I’m an Equinox 800 user and here in the UK, we are forced to ignore the numbers to ID targets. I really only use the numbers to determine if the Nox is trying to lock onto something by giving me the same number amongst jumping numbers. The big take away from your video is to pull the coil back and front tip the target. 👊🏼
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@billstaff4655
@billstaff4655 Жыл бұрын
@gaz419 Yes, this is how I attempt to quickest pinpoint & target separate with a DD coil. I even sometimes use the back tip for the same reason, to avoid turning 180° around & front tipping, if the best target to dig of multiple targets is furthest away from me.
@jawadmajeedahmed6933
@jawadmajeedahmed6933 Жыл бұрын
though I had some problem with sea water It also kzbin.infoUgkxa-FNYUOM93a388gi9a4brtSCEVmrHgJH land for finding any things very easily. (thought it would work as normal due to it being water proof within certain parts of the detector), on dry land and sand worked well. My first one, so still have lots to learn
@karlbesser1696
@karlbesser1696 Жыл бұрын
I bought my first detector kit from Heathkit for Christmas 1974. I first went searching in the spring of 1975 as the ground thawed. It still works as well today as it did back then.
@yomismo5711
@yomismo5711 Жыл бұрын
Old times are better than new ones 😂😂😂
@19jody72
@19jody72 Ай бұрын
I still to this day use my 20 year old bounty hunter quick silver! I do have a nox 900 as well
@karlbesser1696
@karlbesser1696 Ай бұрын
@@19jody72 Very good. The brochure for my GD-48 promised a maximum search depth of 1.8 m. But in reality I can only locate a large iron door at 1.2 m.
@wallywagner673
@wallywagner673 Жыл бұрын
Merrill, it is refreshing to see a few people, like yourself, post comparison videos with careful and truthful explanations and conclusions.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you Wally!
@metaldetectingbrooklyn9896
@metaldetectingbrooklyn9896 Жыл бұрын
I really think Minelab should have done a Re-Call. They knew there was a leakage problem with the Equinox 600 and 800 they should have addressed it in some way. Fix it or extend the warranty for a couple more years if water in the control box is the problem.
@scoutingforhistory4584
@scoutingforhistory4584 Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive video as always. For most people in the hobby, Deus II vs Manticore is like Mercedes vs BMW. Thanks but I'll stick with my Toyota, it's gets me to the same place at a fraction of the cost.
@ingeludvigsen7849
@ingeludvigsen7849 Жыл бұрын
In fact ... Manticore need probability an sw update. Xp deus ll needed this several times 🤔
@CoinandRelicOntario
@CoinandRelicOntario Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I swing the 800 and it has found me great things, even at depth. I'm not buying either one of these or anything for that matter just to have the latest.
@jaystrongbow6111
@jaystrongbow6111 Жыл бұрын
I used to think the same thing, but you cannot get where a Deus 2 can take you with a Toyota.
@scoutingforhistory4584
@scoutingforhistory4584 Жыл бұрын
@@jaystrongbow6111 I really think my Legend can find 95% of what the Deus can find, and at 35% of the price. A bargain no matter how you look at it.
@jaystrongbow6111
@jaystrongbow6111 Жыл бұрын
@@scoutingforhistory4584 I used to think that too. I tested a legend this past summer, Great machine, great bargain. In iron about 75%, on open ground, yes 95 % is probably close. Where I live, that could be 1700s silver I am not willing to miss.
@alv1700
@alv1700 Жыл бұрын
I really like the Deus 2... Has alot of power. Been digging coins over 13 inches deep. I had the Deus 2 for almost 7 months and have found 84 pieces of gold to this date. It's a big learning curve but once you get the hang of it WOW!!!! thanks for what you do. Hey how's the "Badger" going???
@serhunboranks7965
@serhunboranks7965 9 ай бұрын
Hangi ayarı kullanıyorsun?
@RYBOKOP39
@RYBOKOP39 Жыл бұрын
I have been using Deus 2 for 1 year. I think its the best detector for now! But i hope the Manticore will be in Russia soon and i will be able to test it👍 Best wishes from Russia, Kaliningrad region 🎄👍💫
@19jody72
@19jody72 Ай бұрын
How do you like that deus... any regrets in getting it?
@harrysurtees8710
@harrysurtees8710 Жыл бұрын
Wrong Merrill, I'm not here because I'm going to take the plunge into one of these detetors. I'm here because this is your video and your videos are top notch. Your videos are the most intertaining, and the best for learing how to metal detect. I love my Deus II, and am still waiting for my Manticore. No problem my waiting, my Deus II is an awesome machine. Last time out I found two wheats, two Buffalo Nickels, and a Mercury Dime, that I'm positive I passed my NOX 800 over. That being said, I'm hoping I will like the Manticore more than I love my Deus II. Thank you Marrill.
@everdaydetectorist
@everdaydetectorist Жыл бұрын
Merrill, I really appreciate you! Thanks for everything you do!
@robertbray7855
@robertbray7855 Жыл бұрын
Thank God. Someone with balls. You are the only person to water test the Manicore and you even showed it. Nice job. Now we need a depth water test and timed water test. Who will buy that machine without a water test after the poor, poor showing of the 800 in water.
@tonydean1262
@tonydean1262 Жыл бұрын
I got bored during the Deus menu settings Fantastic vlog great unbiased view Can't wait to see more vlogs on manticore
@socalmetaldetecting
@socalmetaldetecting Жыл бұрын
Something to consider is the WS6 Master setup for the Deus 2 ($899 new). Bought used for $650. Much more affordable and zero compromises! Much closer price to Legend and all the same features as remote unit that sells for 1.6K. Would the WS6 Master take the #1 spot?
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
That is a great point.
@Bradleyscience
@Bradleyscience Жыл бұрын
Merrill, you bring up an interesting aspect of audio. You have trained your ear to listen carefully to the sounds and recognize many of them. You state you like the Deus 2 sounds because they are square waves. Square waves do in fact produce a great deal of harmonics, which perhaps you have begun to mentally analyze in a superior fashion, providing greater insight. As a suggestion, try setting up your detectors at the outset, then cover the displays with cardboard (or paper) and go detecting. You will now be able to see your results when dug up by sound only, and it may provide some excellent results. Just a thought. Cheers
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Interesting thought
@DaihatsuMiraWalk-Through
@DaihatsuMiraWalk-Through Жыл бұрын
Awesome informational video❗️ I'll stick with my Equinox 800.🙂
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheTimijay
@TheTimijay Жыл бұрын
Thanks Meryl I have them all too with about 30 hrs on the Manticore. Time will tell but so far it is incredible.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thanks Timjay!
@papermaker2726
@papermaker2726 9 ай бұрын
Has time told yet ? 🤔
@Yakena1
@Yakena1 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. BTW, if you have an old coax cable from your tv, use about 2 feet of it for a test. Connect it to the xp coil and bring it up the shaft the remainder 15 inches or so. Put the coil in the tub of water to cover. You should still hear the signals, You should only need to run the coil to the remote if everything is under water. So you can submerge the coil to the end of the cable going up the shaft 15 inches or so as long as the cable end is not submerged.
@markmeyer194
@markmeyer194 Жыл бұрын
How would you connect it to the coil?
@alfasud1972
@alfasud1972 Жыл бұрын
@@markmeyer194 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGizmpadoctlmaM
@Yakena1
@Yakena1 Жыл бұрын
@@markmeyer194 Strip the outer insulation about an inch, and zip tie it to where it mounts.
@fabianwylie8707
@fabianwylie8707 Жыл бұрын
Here’s something that is a fact , beach 2 on a nox 800 , sensitivity ti only 15 in house air test on a 916 3 gram ring only can pick up at 4 inches , Now the Manticore with a 11 inch coil , sensitivity to 15 was double that , 8 inches . I purchased a manticore and was lucky to get it . From UK and living in Malaysia 🇲🇾, lucky for me, Malaysia gif a batch in from Minelab , Christmas came with a nice surprise. Now the build is brilliant and I have baptised the manticore ans no leaks at all , not that I had any with my Nox 800 . So all in all the Manticore is a beast 👍
@dutch-detector
@dutch-detector Жыл бұрын
Thanks Merrill, after watching this video I am (for now!😅) not worried I bought into the Deus2 to early. When the manticore came out, I was really afraid I spent €1600 on the deus2 and had to replace it 10 months later already and splash out another 2k (that I could also spend on my family 😂) for the manticore. I can now sleep again. You’re the best.
@jaystrongbow6111
@jaystrongbow6111 Жыл бұрын
It really depends on what you want to do. If you are into pulling that last Reale or half dime off an old cellar hole lip you will buy a Deus, take the time to learn it and do just that ....... find the few remaining items you missed over the last 30 years in HEAVY iron. If that's not your thing, honestly, most any quality machine will be great.
@thekeystonechronicler9147
@thekeystonechronicler9147 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. I am a current owner of a Garrett AT Max. I just started researching and detecting seriously last year and decided to upgrade to a multi-frequency detector since I felt like I was missing good targets due to lack of separation technology. I would prefer to stay with American made but we are not there compared to Minelab or Deus. If I had a Minelab 800, I would hold tight on the Manticore purchase since I feel the 800 can compete with both the 900 and Manticore at this time. Since I have neither and mostly a land hunter, I am going with the Manticore for simplicity and the opportunity for programming upgrades in the future that can combat the nail falsing in the future. I plan to keep the Manticore for many years and the AT Max as a backup since I am not the type who runs out and grabs the latest and greatest.
@jaystrongbow6111
@jaystrongbow6111 Жыл бұрын
Get a nice used 800 ...... BUT, make sure you hunt all the spot you have wore out with your Max. You will find things at those spots, especially deep silver. You should be able to pick up a used Nox for less that you paid for your Max.
@jeanponce2017
@jeanponce2017 Жыл бұрын
American technology put multi frequencies in DFX detector in the late 90s and in the early 2000's the V3i ran 3 with a display screen that rivals detectors today. They were ahead of their time and people didn't want to spend time to learn them. Meanwhile their patents expired and Mi elab took them and ran with it. The difference today is the speed of micro processors which is the only reason they get better depth but for over 50 years detectors never changed the basic principle of transmitting a magnetic field through a coil inducing a response in the target metal and picked up by the receiver coil. Pulse induction is about the only other difference in how these detectors work. With all of these new detectors coming out in the last 5 years when you look back at it they aren't really pushing the needle very much other then bells and whistles on a digital screen. And now they use colors to drive market share. Minelab put out the Nox 600, 700, 800, 900 Manticore and even that is going back to somewhat the same platform they started with in the CTX 3030. They flood the market with detectors for maximum profit. They are notorious for releasing machines that should never be released until all problems get worked out. I think it's horrible the customer has to inform them that they release detectors that aren't ready to be released and they've done this back to the late 90's with the Excalibre that leaked. The batteries would die in weeks and it took months sometimes up to 6 months to send it in to be repaired and have it returned. They do this with your money in their pocket and 40 years later the Manticore is gonna do the same thing. By 40 years they still can't get rid of an iron nail where my old DFX clearly shows bars on a screen saying there's iron wrapping around and causing the falsing of a signal and it would give reading on the display warning that literally says "target overload" when a signal over big iron like a horseshoe that wraps around the VDI scale. Yet today Minelab detectors are still digging horseshoes??? Why am I the only person that questions this lol IDK sheeze . If they use old out dated tech at least use that tech in their discrimination also instead of selling a new machine a year later claiming to be the best and it's not. It's possibly gone backwards??? They are concentrated more on profits then developing a great product for it's price which is exactly what Makro has done. In fact they are about to break out soon mark my word they are starting to develope the tech to image the ground in real time. This is a leap forward everything else is bells and whistles if you look how far they push the bar It's literally micro but their price point increase is macro (pun intended)
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Amazing comment! I am turning this in to a video. Thank you!
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Here is the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6G2eYdsjblgqqM
@jeanponce2017
@jeanponce2017 Жыл бұрын
@@MetalDetectingNYC Merrill I just saw that video on my other device I was gonna reply to it later. Different tablets I have have different KZbin material subscribed. But I would like to follow up on a couple of things. For instance I might've been off a year or two on my memory of when certain detectors came out but that's what happens when you get old. At least it shows I try helping with comments from experience and I'm not one of those guys who google something then they come on and post as if they know everything. I also deal with PTS from a near death accident so at times my might gets a little excited and I may not word things the way I should and posting comments 2:00 a.m. half a sleep doesn't help. I'll explain a little better when I reply on your video. But yeah it was a surprise to first see that comment in highlights which I thought someone commented the same thing as I did but it was more of a surprise to see how you found that video of White engineer explaining "dual frequency" not this multi simultaneously blah blah blah nonsense sales pitch of Minelab when it doesn't process as many as it leads people to believe. I have a cool story about why Whites didn't apply for that patent yet Minelab sneaks in and does it. Thanks for the videos keep em coming
@justinzwaan6704
@justinzwaan6704 Жыл бұрын
Started with a Nokta simplex + and since 5 months with the equinox 900. Great machine’s up to now 💪🏼 The separation of the Nox is next level and the multi frequency of course a major plus compared to the Simplex. The simplex only uses the 15 kHz frequency, which is a great medium ranged frequency. I’m not using it on the beach anymore though… I think the Nokta Legend is a way better option for the frequent beach hunter.
@OnlyBelieve7
@OnlyBelieve7 Жыл бұрын
I think you are or were a very good school teacher, as you have indicated your profession before. I’ll get to md’ing shortly. I have had some good teachers and some really bad ones. There is an honesty and a skill that comes across through your videos that teachers need to have to get across to students, whatever the subject. I’ll bet your kids and students appreciate that about you. The Deus 2 seems to be a nightmare to get to know. I had an 800, and if they ever become available, I’m leaning toward the Manticore. Thanks for the video on them. On another channel, the guy says “cawl” for coil, and other language hurdles to try and understand. Thanks for your good teaching technique.
@bells1054
@bells1054 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Everything you said about the D2 is so true. We came from the Equinox 800 straight to the D2. Thank you so much for your honest opinions on each; and all your work to put out the videos.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@williampaxton871
@williampaxton871 Жыл бұрын
Merrill, I just had to say I am impressed that you have solid gold fixtures in your bathtub. No doubt made from all of the gold rings that you have found.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@chuckswenson8044
@chuckswenson8044 Жыл бұрын
I have the manticore on order but am a little concerned about some of the tests I have seen so far, it appears it loves nails and gives a false signal I presently have a D2 and a legend I will keep the D2 the legend has to go although it is a good detector for the money. Also considering changing my order to the equinox 900 looks to me like the 2D screen is just a big distraction not that accurate
@timbrown8581
@timbrown8581 Жыл бұрын
Some great summations Merrill. Definitely gives one food for thought. I'm thinking of giving the manticore a miss and going for a nox900. Just don't think I can justify the price difference. At this early stage the advantages of the manticore just don't appear to be there. Looking forward to your next posts.
@dansteffee9759
@dansteffee9759 Жыл бұрын
Plus the 900 you get 2 coils , I am not sold on either
@dpg12pr
@dpg12pr Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely leaning more on the nox 900
@billstaff4655
@billstaff4655 Жыл бұрын
What improvements are expected with the Equinox 900?
@dansteffee9759
@dansteffee9759 Жыл бұрын
Update , I purchased Nox 900 , it’s pretty close to the Legend I have . I have using it for several weeks now. I believe legend is made better , but 900 software is a little better … but to be honest both still find same items
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to stick with the nox.800 to see what the updates might bring.
@ohdannyboyjustadiggin
@ohdannyboyjustadiggin Жыл бұрын
Thanks For this video. If I had the money I would buy them both. 1 I love the hobby 2 I love learning new detectors 3 I really want the best detector out there. But it still comes down to the user and how well they know there detector. Depth has always been a problem on fringe depth objects. Our Ears are still our best things we can use for determining weather or not to dig it up. Happy New Year
@joekaufman4707
@joekaufman4707 7 ай бұрын
I've been using a nox 800 for about 5 years and almost elusively beach and water detect. Since the warranty ran out I use my excal in the water. I've been toying with getting a new machine that can do both and leaning to the Deus 2 -but after hearing your review I'm having doubts(re beach water set up)..Now that you mentioned a new minelab machine maybe I'll wait, and also give the nox 900 some more research effort. Thanks for a great review
@alefra746
@alefra746 Жыл бұрын
I forgot. It comes with a cable to not lose the control box, use it😅and if you have the opportunity buy the Gray Ghost headphones with special underwater attack/connector. I use them and they are fantastic.👋👋
@ingeludvigsen7849
@ingeludvigsen7849 Жыл бұрын
I like the style you make people thinking about a metaldetector 👍😎. I been searching since 1983 or so. Whites detector this time. Later fisher f75 Ltd. Then nox 800 and ctx. Xp deus ll also. Waiting for the Manticore now. The only detector i have now is the ctx-3030. Just amazing. Hope that Manticore will do a similar job 😎
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jaystrongbow6111
@jaystrongbow6111 Жыл бұрын
Merrill, pull your coil cover and file the area where the coil charger slips over, take a little rat tail file and put a bevel on top. Your charger will pop right on now.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Great idea
@MR-rl3qo
@MR-rl3qo Жыл бұрын
Merrill you can solve the problem with the speaker by swapping the dark plug for the red one and blowing into the speaker.
@oscarnavarro748
@oscarnavarro748 Жыл бұрын
The idea that you are gonna completely clear all the targets from one area or that you never gonna miss a target I think is not possible, let's start with that. No matter which metal detector you choose you always gonna miss some targets, the way I see it is how much time are you going to take to get to know your metal detector and base on my experience of more than 13 years with my minelab xplorer II (yes is an old metal detector but still working till today) I will definitely go with a minelab metal detector cause I know, with the proper care that is gonna last me for a really long time. Thanks for the video and can't way to see when you take the manticore to the beach. Greetings from California.
@jboat571x9
@jboat571x9 Жыл бұрын
I think the best point you made in this video is something I’ve already pondered when considering buying a manticore. “How much deeper do you really want to dig?” I own a nox 600 and I bought the Legend when so many people started having issues with the nox leaking. So now I keep the nox for a backup detector. 99% of my hunting is done in the water and those 2 detectors find targets pretty much as deep as I’m able to recover a target in the water and sometimes deeper than I can dig. I just can’t come up with a good reason to throw $1500 at another detector. I agree with you the Legend is a tremendous detector for the price. It’s basically an equinox that doesn’t leak. Maybe the manticore might be more stable in salt water than the legend? I can crank the sensitivity pretty high with the legend tho. I’d love to buy a manticore. I just need someone to give me a good reason to own it over the legend and I haven’t heard one yet.
@paull7228
@paull7228 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have been using a explorer SE and it is terrible… have to dig everything. i was looking at the deus 2 but I really don’t like the wireless coil , seams like this will just be another something to mess with.. so right now I’m looking at the legend, or the 900. As for the manticore I’m not likening the nail problem. Thanks for the information it is really helping with my decision..
@alefra746
@alefra746 Жыл бұрын
Why you don't like wireless coil? Deus2 is a great metal detector, has a great deep ...In search at sea currently is the n1 as depth and ease of use
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Paul! If you are going from an Explorer, I would go Legend first. It is 95% of the capability for 1/3 of the price. Having that said you will be happy with either the Deus 2 or Manticore (or Equinox for that matter). The value is in the Legend. The top of the line performance is in the Manticore or Deus 2.
@paull7228
@paull7228 Жыл бұрын
My thought when I saw the wireless coil. If I’m out in the field and the battery is dead on the head set i can use the external speaker, If the box goes dead i can use a external battery charge and still operate (providing the unit will run while being changed) if the coil goes dead I’m done for the day.
@pigeonbloodruby5330
@pigeonbloodruby5330 Жыл бұрын
Nwdetectors demonstrates metal detecting techniques to work around nails and the halo, with the Manticore. Minelab Manticore Test on 12-inch Silver Quarter with Iron VS Nails! Buried over 1.5 years! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpa9gKqdnrJmfqM
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@rpp7768
@rpp7768 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video, thanks. Would you recommend one of this detectors for beginners or will be to complicated for me?
@risingtrout2513
@risingtrout2513 Жыл бұрын
My Deus 2 experience dovetails yours on several un-ease of use parameters, and the hella good performance parameters. Paid for itself with one find as well. It could be sooo much better if the ease of use, and the uncomfortable afterthought headphone design were addressed. Great video and congrats on the peer review!
@dieucanonbogoslover7088
@dieucanonbogoslover7088 Жыл бұрын
un casque confortable,il y en a un.
@riezllokits
@riezllokits 4 ай бұрын
I have the Deus 2, I’ve used it for about a month in tropical salt water and it got moisture in it which shouldn’t have been possible using the red plug and not close to the max depth of 20m (only in the surf line). It detects great but to be honest target ID is very difficult (maybe only me) because a 10k ring and a pull tab can read the same (33), or a silver item reads the same as a bottle cap(77-80). All these are in sand on the beach or in the surf. The Deus reads pretty deep (12 inches all day easy). So I end up digging almost everything!! lol
@js-sound
@js-sound Ай бұрын
Manticore has an even worse discriminator, ID shows gold 20...30...50...70....80. The best discriminator was only in Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
@TerryKnipschield
@TerryKnipschield Жыл бұрын
From what I've seen demonstrated (not your channel, Merrill), I have some reservations about both of these detectors. The reason I won't ever buy a Deus2 (or any Deus model) is that every component has to be charged...i.e. the detector, the coil AND the headphones. Forget to charge one and your hunt may be ruined. It takes hours to charge these in the field. Call me old fashioned, but I like the flexibility of changing out batteries on site, or swapping a charged battery pack for quick hunt continuation. Rechargeable batteries have shorter run times too. Though the Deus2 is supposedly wireless, you have to run a fragile looking supplemental antenna wire if the coil is submerged. Likewise, if the control box is submerged, audio to the wireless headphones stops. There may be a hardwired headphone option for the Deus, but I haven't seen it talked about. Necessary for shallow water diving! You also pointed out the complexity of the Deus. I feel I would be paying for many options and features I would never end up using. I MIGHT consider the Manticore, but i don't like the relatively short run time (7-9 hours), and don't like being forced to use proprietary headphones, which may or may not sound good to my ears. Until there is more testing, I continue to be gun shy about leakage and build quality. Minelab knew about coil ears breaking, arm rests breaking and control box leaking on the Equinox 600 and 800 models early on. It's as if they thought "Well, we're selling all we make the way they are...why change anything?". They could have re-done the coil ears adding just 1/16" of plastic to each coil lug and solved the problem. Leakage wasn't (potentially) fixed until the 700, 900 and Manticore (hopefully). So yes. These are very good detectors. I've used Minelab detectors and have been a fan for decades with no problems, though I don't water hunt. I will wait until the Manticore has been in the field for a while before I invest $1600 to see if it holds up! I do wish they'd reinforce their coil ears though. Having to buy some aftermarket gadget that does what Minelab should have done to begin with ruffles my feathers a bit.
@GENOBURRITO1
@GENOBURRITO1 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the deus 2 and the manticore but I will stick with my Legend and nox 600 for now. Pulling up nice things with them both.
@bsharaboata7861
@bsharaboata7861 Жыл бұрын
Which one is deeper?
@GENOBURRITO1
@GENOBURRITO1 Жыл бұрын
@@bsharaboata7861 I really think both are pretty close in depth. I’ve pulled up items 16”+ with both.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Right on
@brotherskeepers111
@brotherskeepers111 Жыл бұрын
Great fair video, hoping for a Manticore target ID VDI bible
@anthonyperkins6364
@anthonyperkins6364 Жыл бұрын
Which is best??? They are both excellent choices, both high end detectors!!! The best thing one could do for themself , is buy one and actually really learn the detector!!! Having many detectors doesn’t guarantee more treasures! I have been doing MDing for 46 years and have never needed a backup detector… ever !! I will say I am getting excellent results with my D2 Ws6 !! It has plenty of features that I have learned to use. The right size coil for my needs. Build quality is perfect for me. You have to remember….. what is right for me , might not be right for you. Thanks Merrill
@MarinoDetectorEmmanuelHedding
@MarinoDetectorEmmanuelHedding Жыл бұрын
That was an excellent comparison, with points in favor of one over the other, showing the real differences. greetings from 🇲🇽 Playa del Carmen Mexico
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Thank you Emmanuel!
@gregparker5732
@gregparker5732 Жыл бұрын
If you have ta tired old or injured swing shoulder there is only one clear choice - Deus 2! Few comparisons mention this fact that can be crucial to some of us. A great detector that you can't bear swinging for long will not find much.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Yes! Great point that I really should have gone in to. Ergonomics Deus is king. But in fairness you do not feel the weight of the Manticore. It is distributed so well. But advantage Deus 2 with ergonomics.
@gregparker5732
@gregparker5732 Жыл бұрын
You may not, but I would feel the difference after an hour.@@MetalDetectingNYC
@DiggingRob
@DiggingRob Жыл бұрын
I only want the Manticore for 1 reason …..EMI shielding….. It’s the first multi frequency detector with EMI enhancements
@scottwhitaker414
@scottwhitaker414 Жыл бұрын
Excellent as usual Merrill. I love my 800, will wait and see about the 900 and or Mant
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Scott!
@susantoker7254
@susantoker7254 Жыл бұрын
Well done video but it does not help decide what to buy, though practically speaking the Legend probably solve getting in the water problem of the Nox 800. I like the simplicity of the Manicore, but it is not fully tested and a smaller coil would be essential amongst suburban trash. The Deus II has a steeper learning curve and some design weaknesses. People are already getting alternate shafts for instance. I guess time will tell.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Yes more time and testing is needed. I think it is a peer with the Deus 2. The Legend is a touch more iron allergic but 95% of the D2 or Manticore for 1/3 of the price.
@fredc3543
@fredc3543 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Merryl: Thus far its the Manticore [M], based upon the menu comparisons. I don't want to fight the interface. If the M has the same access to parameters, it wins on usability.
@AngloCelticMetalDetecting
@AngloCelticMetalDetecting Жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of getting the Deus 2 on release date. Will leave it a year before thinking of getting the manticore. Very disappointed that XP didn’t bring out an update for it in December like they said they would. Is a good job I’ve still got my Deus 1 with HF coil. Thanks for the video mate.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Interesting! You prefer the D1 to the D2. I love the D2 on the beach especially
@AngloCelticMetalDetecting
@AngloCelticMetalDetecting Жыл бұрын
@@MetalDetectingNYC yes I never do beaches I hear the Deus 2 is great on them. It’s also found me lots of silver hammered coins and a gold coin on quiet pasture. In the U.K. the Roman fields are highly mineralised. That’s my by far preferred place to detect. Deus 1 with HF coil is awesome in those sites but Deus 2 struggles unfortunately.
@Nikolay-Boroda
@Nikolay-Boroda Жыл бұрын
@@AngloCelticMetalDetecting добрый день! Подскажите пожалуйста, какие настройки вы применяете на римских полях с Д1 и с Д2? Я стою перед выбором: менять д1 на д2 или нет. С Д1 давно хожу с белой катушкой, находки меня радуют. Но хочу попробовать Д2. Если не затруднит вас, напишите настройки.
@yomismo5711
@yomismo5711 Жыл бұрын
@@AngloCelticMetalDetecting Deus II has problems in mineralised fields (coil hunting)? Thx!
@S.Alenze
@S.Alenze 5 ай бұрын
Excellent demonstration! what do you think the deepest, Deus 2 (digital) or Nexsus mp3 (analog)? I'm having a hard time to pick one
@tomdelorge268
@tomdelorge268 Жыл бұрын
I was an Air Metal Detector backer and never received one. Delivery was supposed to be back in 2020 and they had one delay after another. I finally gave up but wondering if anyone heard what happen. Found your channel and thought it was worth an ask.. great stuff BTW!
@tomdelorge268
@tomdelorge268 Жыл бұрын
As was I. They are Ukrainian, so I stopped holding my breath.
@MurphyMcMurphster
@MurphyMcMurphster Жыл бұрын
Was all a sham.
@donaldphelps536
@donaldphelps536 Жыл бұрын
Good video Merrill, I am patiently waiting for my manticore and think it will be great. I am really impressed with the new equinoxes also, I think they will be totally awesome. I love the new scale and the color screen looks cool. There are so many good choices now and different machines will work better for different people, it depends on the person.
@MW-vj1cw
@MW-vj1cw 9 ай бұрын
'First KZbin Ive EVER Subscribed to in all these years.. and we are talking RElco detector user of the 1960s ..Thankfully I moved quickly the whites Coinmaster4...OH those Virgin Grounds!!! Anyway this was so damn good if you dont mind me saying and so well presented and im going to want to here everything this gentleman has to say... Not sur ebut i got a feeling I got him by a few years... Just wondering when he started.... Me 1966... Back in those days they had no ideas what we had or what we were doing... Can you imagine that!
@goldsmith001
@goldsmith001 Жыл бұрын
Very good video Merryl! For a knuckle head like myself, I'm going with the Manticore, it looks so much easier to navigate and operate. Looking forward to your comparison videos to come, thanks.
@cristianhernandez7849
@cristianhernandez7849 5 ай бұрын
If you have to pick one thats better in finding gold, which one would you go for? As simple as you can get
@scarsprospecting
@scarsprospecting Жыл бұрын
Great video ! I may just keep the nox 800 . Was thinking bout getting the manticore. Maybe some day
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
I do love the manticore. But I don’t see evidence that it can vastly outperform the equinox. My new video I’m really excited about a great pull it made.
@scarsprospecting
@scarsprospecting Жыл бұрын
@@MetalDetectingNYC well brother , I got the beast ! It’s great ! 2 hunts later and I’m starting to get to down . 😊
@GarysMetalDetecting
@GarysMetalDetecting Жыл бұрын
Always so informational and educational. Great work Merrill.
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the the noise cancel trick on the manticore yet.where yo push and hold the noise cancel button down till it settles down.in all terrain normal.high as you can get high conductors.or single frequency 5 for depth.
@josemanuelr.r.7916
@josemanuelr.r.7916 Жыл бұрын
The minelab manticore is the best reason I have found to buy the xp deus 2
@hotroddder1
@hotroddder1 4 ай бұрын
lol! TRUER WORDS COULDN’T OF BEEN SAID!!!
@roamingrevsoriginal
@roamingrevsoriginal Жыл бұрын
So the only detector I own an Equinox 800 and bought the large and small coils. Works well and have enjoyed using it. With limited funds, and can only have one (not 21), would you dump the 800 and buy a Manticore or Deus 2? Do the 800 coils work on a Manticore?
@raydunhill5160
@raydunhill5160 Жыл бұрын
Great info Merrill! I bought the 900 for the simple reason to see if I can flood it? Have always used minelab machines but have flooded the CTX, 2 800s and 2 600s? The only machine I havent flooded is my Xcal! The only true water machine! Im a water hunter in Florida and have to say I hunt with several friends (in water) that have the Deus 2 and have not had a water issue? WHATS UP MINELAB??? Love the machines so I thought I would take a chance on it being EXTREMELY WATERPROOFED???? We will see? Another super video Merrill! Always enjoy!! 👍👍👍👍👍
@sagemajka4871
@sagemajka4871 Жыл бұрын
Out of the Equinox 900, & Manticore, is the Manticore worth the price difference ? Also what are your thoughts, on the Deus 2 WS6 Master Detector, Would you buy the WS6 Master over the Equinox 900?
@robschorr6201
@robschorr6201 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this Merrill. This helps a lot. I'm #15 on the waiting list with my dealer for the Manticore. Been strongly looking at the deus2, wondering if i made the right choice. After your video I can see that it's going to be okay either way. Thanks. Down the road I'll pick up a deus2 for the beach. Learning The tones on the deus2 would be Great to learn and use. Thanks again for the information.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
It is! You are going to love your Manticore! There is no question about that!
@robschorr6201
@robschorr6201 Жыл бұрын
@@MetalDetectingNYC I've learned so much from watching your videos thanks for taking the time to produce them. Also, fair warning, I own the same wooden chairs you do around your table... Those things are dangerous man, they break.. I've lost two of them in the last year. I'm not heavy either It's something about the design. They're flawed to break. My dad just broke one at Thanksgiving... Down to only two left. They break at the leg... something about them. Lol. Thanks again for everything you do.
@TreasureByMeasure
@TreasureByMeasure Жыл бұрын
😂 I'm here for you buddy. I'm not upgrading anytime soon but I stay for the SAVAGE SMACKDOWNS. Thank you for the quality info. It's great to have a trusted source. 👍 ...target trace was REALLY INTERESTING. I've got ferrous volume control on the Vanquish 540. I'm planning a trip back to the park to try my functions against the steel playground equipment. I WILL DEFEAT THEM! ... for fun, I saw online, pairs of metal detecting shoes. Would love to see a savage review.. would also love to be surprised! Just my mad-man ramblings. 😂 you're easily distracted 😂 nice I think I could be persuade to buy the DEUS II as I enjoy the beach the most. At least, on my level. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Enjoying the 'Inner voice' cutaways. That slayed me! Baptizing the Manticore. COMMITMENT. Have not seen others do that 👍 It's alive and cussing you out! 😂 I worked big box retail and can relate to your color television example. But, I bet you could still bring out the best in any equipment because your experience is sushi 👍
@shaddixj
@shaddixj Жыл бұрын
Great video, but on the Deus test you had to swing the coil faster because of the high reactivity.
@edyoung6573
@edyoung6573 Жыл бұрын
Well you earned a new subscriber! My wife loves metal detecting, I picked her up a ACE 250 with the Pro Pointer 5 years ago for Christmas. Looking to upgrade her (metal detector not her LOL) and found your channel. We live 20 miles South of Boston (beaches full of rubbish) She cleans more beaches and parks than our parks and beaches department! LOL
@charlesmarkette
@charlesmarkette Жыл бұрын
Waiting for my manticore pre order. Any idea when they're shipping out to the public? Looking forward to seeing your future hunts with it. Cheers sir love your videos. Happy new year!! 🥂😊
@dirtlifedetecting
@dirtlifedetecting Жыл бұрын
The real question...will either the Deus II or the Manticore unlock trashy or older/deeper areas that the Equinox/Legend/Deus I just can't touch. And, the big AND...do they do it to the degree that makes the extra cost worth it. We've got a year's worth of data on the Deus II and I'm beginning to see some hardcore 'Nox guys swear by the Deus II and what it is finding for them in their pounded areas. Will take another year for that same data set on the Manticore. Full Disclosure-'Nox 600 user here.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
I loved my Nox 600. That detector got me more treasure than any other detector..
@historydeantected
@historydeantected Жыл бұрын
Great vid again. I have the D2 and I love it but the charging coil situation and the control box falling off drive me crazy. The manticore looks really cool but I doubt I’ll swap but I’ll keep an eye on your channel to see how you get on.
@russellmueller604
@russellmueller604 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Merrill. Absolutely right about needing time with the manticore before actually saying what it is or isn’t…really looking forward to your future videos with the manticore. Hopefully this warm weather coming the next few days in New York/ Long Island sticks around for as long as possible before the metal detecting hibernation starts for us
@19jody72
@19jody72 Ай бұрын
My wife wants to get into it.. I have the nox 900 and like it. Im looking at the manticore or the deus2 for her
@mossig
@mossig Жыл бұрын
Tap water doesn't penetrate as well as rain water. It's a phenomena known in the car industry. Something about ionization I believe. If lake or sea water penetrates better I don't know. Also the temperature makes a difference. If the box is cold it will leak easier. Submerging it in a barrel of freezing rainwater would be the ultimate leak test. I wouldn't try it though unless under warranty.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Someone wanted me to take it to the lake and dunk it.....Im like BRO its 9 degrees here!
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 Жыл бұрын
It seems to make the manticore and 900 perform better all around.
@walksuponwater7261
@walksuponwater7261 Жыл бұрын
Hi Merrill, thanks for all those great little tips on the pros and cons of both those two. But the reason as you mentioned that you felt more are ease with the Minelab is common for all us older people ( which is probably the vast majority of people in this sport/hobby/obsession). It is the screen is larger, the fonts are bolder and easier to see, the Deus screen is faint and not easy to see the tiny icons in the bright sunshine. Thanks for warning me about the Desus coil it is a pain to charge and the wire breaks? I guess after this video of yours Desus 3 will becoming out soon. Oh by the way there is a brand new Electric car on the market.....the Chevrolet "EQUINOX" ....come on man how cool would you look driving that up to the beach, make, Phil, Lou, and Adel green with Envy!
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
LOL I saw the Chevy Equinox on the road today! Thanks WUW!
@ggolds5
@ggolds5 Жыл бұрын
TIME for a Legend comparison again. XP, Manticore, Legend. PLEASE!
@PursueTheUnknown
@PursueTheUnknown Жыл бұрын
CTX 3030 has entered the chat... I have a CZ21, Legend, TDI, Minelab F1A4, and CTX at the moment. Had basically every other detector (V3i, Deus 2, Equinox, Sovereign GT, beach hunter, Infinium LS, etc.) but sold them. I grab the CTX every time I hunt unless I'm hunting super heavy trash, in which case I grab the TDI (TDI can cherry pick low conductors better than any VLF), or water hunting where I grab the Legend because the CTX always sports the 17" coil. Everyone runs the CTX in Auto+3 and doesn't realize how crazy sensitive it is when you switch to manual sensitivity... literally like 6 inches deeper. Even Minelab still calls the CTX their Flagship machine, with Manticore between Equinox and CTX.
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
I know my opinion on it isnt popular with some. I just couldnt get past the lack of separation compared to the Nox. It literally sat in my basement for 2 years. Its a matter of resonating with a persons detecting worldview. It resonated with you and not me.
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 Жыл бұрын
I believe it will help in separation,depth,emi, target identification on the manticore and 900 because of stronger signal it sends into the ground in multi and sometimes in single frequencies it depend on your area.you might get better readings on the graph also between ferrous and none ferrous.
@jimmymalone3494
@jimmymalone3494 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Merrill it was a great job and thank you for sharing.
@andreaskramkowski4318
@andreaskramkowski4318 Жыл бұрын
Hey Merrill, first i like your channel very much !! My question : When i use the Equinox 800 with the 15 inch coil on the wet beach, how much depth would i loose in comparison with the Deus 2 ? Thank you in advance , best regards from Trier (Germany), Andreas
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
The 11 inch coil on the deus is the depth equivalent of the 15 on the nox.
@arneltan5380
@arneltan5380 Жыл бұрын
Sir merril we want to see the. Manticore on beach
@acem7749
@acem7749 2 ай бұрын
Just found your channel, Got the Deus II as my 1st detector. It's main use is for fresh water diving. Had for a bout a week. Start making my own programs for it. I set up coins I have already found visually with in wrought iron field of nails, spikes and bolts from the debris field I discovered. I bought this tool for to help find the hidden coins. Mainly gold and silver. The big issue is all the iron hardware that my be next to, below or partially over the coins. My program with a maxed reactivity and low frequency seems the do the best with my tests. But I am open to any suggestions. Thanks.
@ForGodandKeiki
@ForGodandKeiki Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Merril. True test for us tropical detectorist will be 3-5 day a week shallow saltwater divers. If it doesn’t become a Floodacore for 1 year, then it’s a true competitor to D2 🤙🏽 send me a demo mindlab
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Well said!!!
@danielkemp4187
@danielkemp4187 10 ай бұрын
Deus 2 Manticore Nox 900 What is best for gold in hot mineralised ground in Australia?
@Pledgeman
@Pledgeman Жыл бұрын
As a novice that wants to get into finding things, what is the detector of choice? I am not a tech person.
@ReversXC
@ReversXC Жыл бұрын
10:24 What does the blue wavy bar below the numbers mean? Red seems to mean iron.
@paulblanton1793
@paulblanton1793 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I own the D2. Ran the Nox for years. Minelab still hasn’t caught up with deus in heavy iron separation, But they are getting CLOSER. The xp is a feather with the 9” coil and is REALLY deep! However the ease of operation and charging, menu, 3D screen with manticore is great! I ordered a manticore, But will only be using it in certain situations. My answer is buy both! They will eventually pay for themselves😊
@jeanponce2017
@jeanponce2017 Жыл бұрын
You can go to a swimming hole with a shovel and a screen and eventually pay for a detector. A $300 detector has dug targets that sold for 6 figure and by a kid? I think they are going overboard with bells and whistles to sell detectors but as far as the basic principle goes these detectors work the same 2ay they have for 50 years. Coils and microchips changed more then the actually technology on how they work and after how many millions in sales their top detector can't get past an iron nail? But the screen looks cool though???
@bkjustice9390
@bkjustice9390 Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm old school, I still use the E trac but it's getting long in the tooth. Been contemplating a new detector so I've been watching for something to pop out at me on the Manticore by watching these trials. So far I can only assume it's a great detector but I have not seen anything yet that screams that it's better than the Equinox yet. I might be more inclined to look at the 700 or 900 coming out if they fixed the leaking problem. Thanks for the video
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
I agree with you! Nothing has proven to me either that it is leaps and bounds better than the Equinox yet.
@MadisonMainedetecting
@MadisonMainedetecting Жыл бұрын
Merrill, you have the most honest reviews on detectors, keep up the excellent work. 👍👍
@hank6887
@hank6887 Жыл бұрын
Good video, where would you put the legend on performance with the manticore and Deus 2 ? Thank you
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
95% of the performance at 1/3 of the price!
@hank6887
@hank6887 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information, I heard the legend will get new coils, that would be awesome, HHHANK
@Aussat
@Aussat Жыл бұрын
Great video, just purchased the 800 and worried about going in the water at the beach, beach all around me here in NZ.... Thanks for the time you spend putting these video's together.. New to all this so a big learning curve!
@Stack_Silver
@Stack_Silver 5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a barrage of comments from Deus 2 owners discussing the needed and anticpated updates for the Deus 2 or maybe a new machine altogether. Some are hoping for a better coil selection, a color screen and improved capabilites. Iffy Signals just did an umasking comparison video posted yesterday, and the Deus II underperformed both the new Nokta Triple Score and the Minelab Xterra Elite SMF detectors. Some Deus II owners weiging in with their dispappointment and calling upon XP to step it up… At this point, I would choose the Manticore over the current Deus II. Better screen and menu layout, better coil choices, and the lack of backwards and sideways updates that many Deaus II owners are complaining about, I’d wait for a new release from XP in maybe what could be a Deus III to address al these complaints…
@MRWALLEYZ
@MRWALLEYZ Жыл бұрын
Thx for this one..I find myself leaning toward simplicity these days..you bring up great points..On to the next..
@ChineseDetective
@ChineseDetective Жыл бұрын
When the dogs came running TO YOU instead of AWAY from you when you were running that bath, that was hilarious! Especially if you've been following your channel for a long time and seen all your interactions with the dogs! HA HA HA!!! Thanks for taking all this time to compare and share your insights! You're the best! :D PS! I'm a die-hard Equinox 600 user, but I do like what I see and hear about both Deus II and Manticore! :D
@ohiofredl
@ohiofredl Жыл бұрын
I see you read a lot.I hope some vid you will study the making of the coil and relations in the signal it sends to the box or the machine .My are some after market coils are better than stock coils.Is the. Box just a tuner after the signal is produce by the coil
@MetalDetectingNYC
@MetalDetectingNYC Жыл бұрын
Georgi Chaushev from Nexus says the same thing and I believe him. The coil is the most important component of a detector.
@TerryKnipschield
@TerryKnipschield Жыл бұрын
Regardless of brand, I'm getting very frustrated with companies who announce new machines, and then don't ship in quantity for six months after the announcement! This applies to new coil sizes and updates as well as the actual detector. I don't like being "played" with or teased like some child being told "Yes we bought you that new toy you wanted, but you'll have to wait 6 months before we give it to you!".
@g0vlf454
@g0vlf454 Жыл бұрын
A thoroughly in-depth (ah hem) review on detectors from somebody who uses them regularly.... with a little twist of humour
@capecoddiggerzmetaldetecti5718
@capecoddiggerzmetaldetecti5718 Жыл бұрын
Love the simplicity of the Nox, hoping the Manticore will proof to be a little better then my nox 600, I already love the new features ❤️ Thanks for your info, really helpful 😀 I will see how the machine works out over the year 😁
@pero1337
@pero1337 3 ай бұрын
Time to update this review, did you use manticore more?
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