Mini Cooper S Works 210 Review - Joe Achilles 2017

[@JoeAchilles1]

BMW & Mini UK invited me down to try a few of their latest models, I couldn't turn down the chance to try this Mini Cooper S Works 210, every journalist that walked away from it did so with massive grins, now I understand why :-) For the money, this Mini is a brilliant little car, well done guys!

[@W00LFY100]

Joe Achilles It seems BMW UK are recognising you now for the honest passionate advertising you are doing for them and the resultant sales. My M140i was bought without test drive and your videos played a large part in the decision making before even setting foot in the dealership. I couldn't be happier with the car and what an understated sleeper it is for the money.

[@onechopbuddy3849]

M140i fantastic car

[@garethjones2125]

I have had one of these as my daily drive for over a year. They really are fun cars for the money. I came from an M135i, and although clearly not as fast, it’s more fun when you want to drive the car hard on the road and not be doing silly speeds. The JCW Pro exhaust is just hilarious, like a Group B rally car from the early eighties.

[@RandomVideosFirst]

Im selling my M135 too its defo a contender as I need to down size but still have something fun for me to drive its either the Audi S1 or this. Question how would you rate the brakes and how loud it is compared to the M135i?

[@MorganNicolaysen]

Do you still enjoy the JCW? Considering M2, M140i and the JCW. Coming from a 4-series BMW, I want something a bit smaller and even more fun. Afraid I'll miss the RWD though..

[@watsoncam]

Will be buying. JCW soon and this little car has whetted my appetite. Thanks for the info, it seems like I have made a good choice.

[@vedadrokkor]

They should have that exhaust as option for every made by BMW car.

[@steverogers6921]

Hi Joe, I had the pleasure of driving one last Thursday my local BMW dealer gave it to me as a load car for the day. What a little machine they are & yes they do under steer & spin the fronts up very easy, quite tame up to 3k but after that what joy to drive. Keep up the vids pal.

[@SouthEastCashew]

Gotta love the sound of the mini exhausts. Even sound nice on a standard mini.

[@derekfinnegan734]

This is making miss my old 2009 R56 CooperS. The pops and bangs out of that too were entertaining. It was only 175bhp.

[@AnonymousJ99]

I actually think anything over 175bhp is pretty respectable

[@JIMMYHIBBS1]

I used to be very anti front wheel drive - but the torque steer, wheelspin and under steer, can make them a flipping riot day to day, and arguably more fun than the sometimes too planted rear wheel drive cars ...

[@CarObsession]

The Mini is such good fun, just a shame that it can get properly pricey once you add options on. Mind you, I would easily pick that over the Abarth 595. The Abarth is good fun, don't get me wrong, but the Mini is a nice placer to sit, feels better put together and it's better to drive.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Mini also costs more than the Abarth...you have to pay to play.

[@CarObsession]

buildmorefarms100 That is true, but the Mini has a better interior and probably more equipment, although it can get very pricey if you go mad with options. Both the Abarth and the Mini are great fun, but they are both too pricey for me.

[@pad3357]

Love them, I’m on my 5th can’t wait to get this generation mini. Gotta get that exhaust though

[@gavinhall4112]

Everyone is down on the future of the 1 Series with impending FWD etc. However this shows it doesn’t have to be boring. Well done Mini. (Out of interest, I preferred the sound of the Mini to that M240.)

[@MilesDrive]

That first experience of understeer in that corner😲🤣🤣🤣🤣.....fabulous little motor!

[@AlexOliver555]

I have one of these and it is just the best fun I've ever had in a car. I know what you mean about the understeer because I have the same issue. My car currently has the original tyres on it which are pirelli cinturato p7 which are runflats which I think brings it's own problems too. But they also require some heat in to make them work and are just useless on wet or damp roads. I am thinking of buying 4 new tyres (cause you can't mix runflats and none runflats apparently.) And going for some Pilot Super Sports which are a much grippier and softer tyre. Which hopefully will solve the understeer issue. I want to get it remapped too cause they tune very well indeed and it would give a lot of much more powerful cars a run for their money I think too.

[@clivebushnell8428]

Hi Alex and Joe, I have a 2016 cooper sd and that also suffered from understeer on the original tyres, which were Dunlops sports. I was disappointed as I'd had an R56 S petrol before which was so much fun. The fix I found was to fit Bridgestone Potenza RE050's with the W speed rating. Those were the tyres that my R56 used to such great affect and they totally fixed the oversteer on my F56 SD. Hope someone finds this useful. Clive

[@jojo9820]

What is understeering ?

[@OnlineHousehusband]

Cracking review as always Joe. Can't beat that JCW exhaust. I have the exact same one on my Cooper S 🔥👌🏼 The works 210 is basically my car with the JCW bits on it (bodykit, exhaust, decals etc) lovely spec of car though 👍🏼👍🏼

[@darrencottrell5541]

Great video Joe, one of my favourites in fact. Wish I could justify buying one for the exhaust note alone.

[@adamandersson9663]

Very underrated cars.

[@joespavin3792]

Ha ha, laughing like a naughty schoolboy with those pops and bangs! Great little car for hooning around.

[@SidNorth]

Great video. My favourite Mini of all time is the GP2 although it's flawed with no back seats etc. But maybe I'll have to have a cheeky look 👍🏽. Good Job!!

[@Vortex]

Super cool little car. I'm not sure when the new shape Mini is expected to be released but I'd like to get the new JCW as a run around.

[@Mike-mg5nn]

Thought you was going to go into that field when you tried to take that corner the first time round haha

[@russellnowak3941]

Love it Joe! A little go kart for sure.....

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah exactly! Cheers

[@nickelises]

Great review, love that exhaust, I feel aggressive turn in overcomes understeer, sometimes difficult to eliminate in the lower speed corners though!

[@RobBoothAutomotive]

That splitsecond of understeer fear on your face at 2:09 ahahah!

[@CJSVlogs]

Awesome to see you in some press cars, you deserve it!

[@peterharris7862]

Loved it mate such a pocket rocket the sound pops and bangs every review i see even just the copper s makes people smile dam it now i want one so bad... have you driven a automatic copper s ?

[@steveskipper6473]

"I feel like I'm going slower but I know I'm going faster" >> and not smiling quite as much

[@kona328WH]

Good video but need more info on the gearbox and how good it is.

[@jamesreilly8455]

That exhaust is hilarious 🤣 makes the focus RS sound quite sedate!

[@MsSimonsunburst]

Loved this video. Made me smile. I have just bought a cooper in red. :)

[@RandomVideosFirst]

Was the bluetooth switch on from the start in sport mode ?

[@markseale3235]

Achilles was the greatest Greek worrior that fought in the trojan war. So just remember that when you are competing in bike races. How well did you fit in the mini as it built by bmw is there any bmw characteristics?

[@CarsofGlasgow]

Great video Joe, beats my Cooper S video I like the red too

[@AnupC]

Camera question - what setting do you use on your GoPro Session 5? 4K (no image stability) or 2.7k (with image stability)

[@joemiller4718]

Just awesome cars arent they? When I was looking for my first car, i was looking at a swift sport. My dad suggested a Cooper S. I thought hmm ill look like a bit of hairdresser the typical mini driver in the eyes of others. Anyway purchased a 2005 cooper s the supercharger varient. Its just awesome. Had it three years now, theres no understeer as such on the older mini. Just a thought, ive not checked through your channel yet, but how about reviewing subscribers cars? Like a monthly or weekly special sort of thing. I think its a great idea time dependant of course. Awesome vid again dude

[@joemiller4718]

I dont want to sell the mini now haha. But im looking at a M135i on friday =)

[@Michalux123]

Great video as always Joe. I drove the Cooper S before and I loved it, great fun to drive. Currently, I own M135i LCI and I'm a bit tempted about swapping it for JCW. Would you say it's a big downgrade? What I found about M135i is it's a brilliant car but as soon as you start pushing, you break every speed limit in the UK and I don't find it to be that exciting. I'm after something more fun and engaging. Maybe my problem is that I picked up an auto instead of a manual?

[@m.j.41]

Michalux123 Did you trade it in?

[@yashmann]

Did you get the jcw

[@Michalux123]

@@yashmann nope. Recently parted my way with an e92 coupe in manual. If you have the funds go for one because they are definitely worth it and if you look after it, it will be an appreciating asset.

[@yashmann]

@@Michalux123 yes do love the e92 but sadly I've just turned 20 and cannot afford to insure anything apart form my mini cooper sd but wanted to get a jcw in the next couple of years, previously wanted a e92 coupe LCI but obviously insurance is a scam at my age. Lovely to hear you bought a e92, thanks for responding, take care.

[@Michalux123]

@@yashmann if you decide to go for e92, go for the pre lci with N54 engines. There is so much potential in them if you are into modifying cars

[@astradala1845]

Is that the drivetrain error? Mine has that!

[@shanes9872]

How many cars can you say put a smile on your face like that when you drive them? lol

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah genuinely not many, real fun!

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

My wife can absolutely not understand my love for my MINI and how I just can not resist blasting in and out of curves at blazing speeds. LOL! I seriously sometimes just look at my car while it's sitting in the driveway and can't resist just grabbing the keys and taking it for a spin. I live in the country and there are huge curves here and it's basically heaven for a MINI. The cars just beg you to drive them and I have had MINI's for years and I still look forward to driving it every single time I get in it. I can't think of a single car that could do that to me because I'm, ironically, very much NOT a "car guy". I'm certainly a MINIAC though. LOL!

[@benlee6931]

I swapped my M135i LCI for a 210 s works a few months ago. More fun without the potential of loosing your license (ish), plus massive savings on running costs, insurance and the initial cost of the car. Planning to swap the tyres and fit the JCW brake kit, i find the standard brakes don’t match the power of the engine

[@RandomVideosFirst]

Im selling my M135 too its defo a contender as I need to down size but still have something fun for me to drive its either the Audi S1 or this. Question how would you rate the brakes and how loud it is compared to the M135i?

[@benlee6931]

London Cars and Games the brakes aren’t the best if I’m honest, they are ok for general road use but nothing compared to the brembo’s on the M135i. As for the sound out of the mini, it’s a lot louder than the BM, it’s on a similar level as a rally car 😂

[@RandomVideosFirst]

Ben 1990 thanks for replying, oh wow lol Re the sound ill probably consider maybe getting the jcw brakes

[@jayclark4239]

Hey joe if you can be bothered coming to Scotland, I have a f56 jcw, it’s running bc coilovers, pro tune exhaust, and a race chip tune (292hp 306ft lbs) super sports all round next month as well, way better than original jcw

[@carllynch8798]

Has it got a LSD ? I think it was a option for the mini JCW ?

[@IIDaveGII]

would you say this is still a good option if i was to trade in my m140i for one of these as a cheaper alternitive?

[@ivanfoster7849]

Hi Joe Will you be testing the new 2022 mini jcw Thanks Ivan

[@JoeAchilles1]

Hey Ivan, I did test it last year actually, but really wasn't impressed and didn't bother making a video unfortunately.

[@ivanfoster7849]

@@JoeAchilles1 Hi Joe Thanks for the reply Ref 2022 mini jcw , I have just ordered a new car due for del approx 6months. I have the 18” wheels with auto box and adaptive suspension it whould have been really good to see you putting it through its passes here’s hoping Cheers Ivan

[@EdwardV20]

Are you sitting closer to the steering wheel than usual?

[@sparkford04]

So Joe, you can either have the JCW Mini or the BMW M140i on the market currently at very similar money in fact probably pick up the M140i cheaper. So what is your choice ,as if I need to ask.

[@walzke]

keith morris this was my problem. I chose the mini. Cheaper insurance for a 21 year old and also it just put a smile on my face. Oh yea and it was a two week wait as opposed to a 3 month wait for the 140 but that was circumstantial

[@sparkford04]

Better option but restricted numbers for sale.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHa3fGSpip2ki6M

[@oldmanjenkins38]

Always been partial to the Mini. Preferred the R56 2nd generation (2006-13). The newer ones are too boxy for my tastes but still make a quality product.

[@robertshetsen8691]

You have m2 as well so as 240i m do you like mini better

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

Can the popping exhaust be turned off in sport mode? Or is it always on?

[@AnCapKadse]

it´s not so loud with the valve closed

[@freddynewbert4320]

maybe this next for my dad what do you think?

[@TheHoward2011]

Great video

[@onechopbuddy3849]

It’s all about the smiles per gallon

[@staggabob]

Where's that lovely looking road?!

[@MotechPerformance]

Fun cars !!

[@michaeladgo]

Is this a good car to buy ?

[@Turbologie]

The Understeer come from the Tires because now i have Michelin Pilot super sport and thats very good !! The stock tires is Run Flat , and its shit haha :)

[@MrBebert77]

Would love to see you test drive a fiat abarth 595 competizione

[@wolf5356]

This or m240i?

[@paulkelsey2458]

"my big size 11s" *laughs in size 17s* lmao

[@IamJackPot]

lmao, understeering the whole way to the other side of the road! LMAO. Love the review. C-H-E-E-R-Z :)

[@blakewilliams9642]

word of the day kids..."fun"

[@icebreakertech]

Really like these cars apart from the interior. All to round and the stupidly big round dials, but that's just me.

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

The interior is part of the charm to me. I actually loved the old school way of having the speedometer in the middle and all the toggle switches in the middle more than the current gen of having a display that's big and round and the speedometer above the steering wheel. The little quirks in MINI's are sorta part of the fun for me. When I upgraded I was really disappointed that they had changed some of that and the dealer said I was in the minority on that quibble but there were other passionate MINIACS that didn't like it as well. I can see how it would irritate people but for me it was just kinda cool.

[@MrRenobarbican]

Neighbours would be extremely p1ssed off with anyone buying one of those

[@BLRayBanUK]

That fucking rear end just pisses me off no end

[@AbsoluteMiniacGena]

I really don’t enjoy the pops and crackles. I’m currently awaiting a Mini Cooper S, not a JCW. My car should have been ready for me on March 2nd but due to a mistake at the dealers, the wrong car arrived there and so I’m now waiting for MY car to be built.

[@MrLee1m]

Love your reviews joe but can’t help that think when I see a man in a mini that he has a hairdressing husband called vernon at home lol.

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

I've caught some flack for my MINI as well I've always felt like MINI is a really macho car in a way because it basically says "I don't give a crap what you think about me..." or something. They even ran a commercial in the Super Bowl last year where all these people were trying to stereotype the car and Harvey Keitel pops up at the end and says "This car doesn't care what you call it". Besides I never really have to worry about what people are saying about it because by the time I give it a little gas I'm too far out of sight to hear them anyway. LOL! I can definitely see how people think they're kinda "girly" I guess but man they are actually very fun and the irony is my wife hates mine because she's afraid I'm gonna get killed or kill her in it. LOL!

[@gavinivers8941]

The reason it understeers is the way you drive.

[@JoeAchilles1]

+Gavin Ivers Good to know

[@buildmorefarms1007]

You're silly.

[@wullielove8680]

@Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling 😎🙄

[@vincesplc]

No offence but the newer minis are a JOKE!! Looks fucking horrid!

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

They are pushing that 3 and 4 door crap HARD at the dealers. I was like "THEY AREN'T MINNNNNI Coopers! They are so big they are more like MAJOR Coopers and who wants that in a MINI???!!!" I definitely don't like the newer, longer, body styles as much. My 2014 still drives like a dream but my 2008 S model definitely was a little tighter and quicker I think. I still have a ton of fun in my 6 speed manual but I'd love for them to make like a "classic" line or something for people that have been fans for a while and don't want the longer bodies.