Mini Z - Bringing the Hellfire! The Atomic SZ2 AWD Love This Motor and the Cyclos That's Powering it

[@kenneth_jensen]

I just started in the Mini-Z world. Have been racing 1/10 on-road, 1/8 buggy off-road and 1/5 truck on-road. So right now I'm looking at the new MR-04 Evo 2 and now stumbled upon this beast... :-O What to do...I already have a FlySky NB4 that I also use for my crawlers and other cars. The club I'm racing in are mainly running MR-03 and 04's. But it could be fun to come there with something else 😀 Although I'm not sure I'm then allowed in their tournament.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

there are a TON of awesome 1/28 chassis options out there. the Kyosho MR03 and 04 are toy grade compared to the Atomic, GL Racing, Nexx Racing, Reflex Racing, MWX, and other low center of gravity, lipo cars.

[@alienware5629]

Some red/purple chameleon tint and some purple wheels . Clean

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Yeasssss

[@mikeruizesparza1514]

Beatutiful machine! Congrats for the video and tips.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Glad you like it! And thanks!

[@joeyumland6809]

Hellfire! Good job man

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thanks a ton for watching!!!

[@shafiqjan1474]

Thanks for the excellent breakdown, it is gonna be helpful when I install mine 👍

[@TheShopMiniRC]

The system is fantastic.

[@shafiqjan1474]

@@TheShopMiniRC I can't decide if it should go in my Reflex RX28 or my GL-F LMP project...

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@shafiqjan1474 hard to say lol. Maybe which ever you think will have you adjusting things in the esc more since the app is so fast and good.

[@shafiqjan1474]

@@TheShopMiniRC I will probably just get more 👤

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@shafiqjan1474 I guess that works too. Lol

[@ringofthebrave]

9:55 I am sure the ESC supports "Reverse Direction" which allows you to keep the cleaner look of the wires and connect A to C and C to A. Edit: Here we go at 15:03.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

I actually didn’t even think of that. Great idea. This doesn’t mess with the “sensored” part of the motor?

[@ringofthebrave]

@@TheShopMiniRC I think it is possible because it is sensored. Used this feature with my Orca 1:10 ESC and with the sensored GL-Racing ESC.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@ringofthebrave I may have to try.

[@lektro808]

Love my MRT!! Probably add an SZ2 done the road

[@TheShopMiniRC]

This is our first Atomic. We figured if we were going to have only 1 atomic, it should be an AWD.

[@seanmmonaghan]

Can you do a video going over the electronics options for mini z racing? I find it difficult finding information on what transmitters, receivers, motors and esc that works to be competitive.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

there are a ton, but if I can find some time, I will try to go over some of the options.

[@fcukeround]

More running videos please 🙏

[@TheShopMiniRC]

If we had a class that ran AWD, I would def be able to get more! We will try.

[@kenneth_jensen]

Awesome video 💯 Just a question: I'm also into crawlers and I run sensored motors there too. But I would rather go with a higher KV and gear down there, to have more control. So back to Mini-Z. Why don't you go with a 8500 KV, if it is sensored? Wouldn't that get you more control too? 🙂 Well that is what I have done to my Evo and it works, plus added a super capacitor for even more punch 😁 I guess it depends on the track right? 🙂

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Yes, absolutely. We could definitely run more KV. This is just what we heard many felt was good for this car and gearing. The track matters as well. Also, from my understanding, the lower kv will give more torque. Too high of kv and you really have to gear down to get torque.

[@kenneth_jensen]

@@TheShopMiniRC that is true, it gives more torque, but also less rpm. So it is too fuld the right balance 🙂 I know not many run the 12000 KV's. You will also never hit the rpm limit and you miss torque in the lower end. Many run 5600 KV's if it is AWD and a good split between 5600 and 8500 KV's for RWD. I guess it is up to what the individual prefers 🙂 I run faster laps with a 8500 KV. But have also only tried 5600 and 8500, not 12000...yet 😁

[@EDCtexan]

How do you like the reciever i am looking at for my 1/24 crawler rock buggy build and thank you for showing electronics on these most just do the build

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Absolutely love it!!!

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

I have almost all 5th scale stuff, few 7th, couple 8th and one 10th. After watching this I absolutely have to have one of these. How do they handle on the average public asphalt road/sidewalks etc…

[@TheShopMiniRC]

These do not do well on roads or sidewalks. You want a smooth surface.

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

@@TheShopMiniRC ohh, that’s too bad. Sounds very restrictive. Like you need a track or a perfectly smooth garage floor. 💔

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@Mr.Wednesday. i mean, they are millimeters off the ground. They are very very small. If you want to drive them on sidewalk or road, you probably should get something like an off-road mini z buggy or something with a bit taller tires.

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

@@TheShopMiniRC I understand, I just like the idea of how well made these cars are. Maybe if I fit slightly bigger wheels? I understand it’s not the intended purpose of this car. Never stopped me before, would probably serve as more of a shelf queen

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@Mr.Wednesday. you can always try. ;)

[@ReiG3]

You were dead on on my AX1 receiver question for my Furitek upgrade. Now I am starting the build on my SZ2. What low profile servo do you recommend?

[@TheShopMiniRC]

I like the AGFrc servos. Well priced and good specs.

[@Hannsom7]

This is a sick little ride right here. you can here how smooth it is when you rev it up. oh and where is that track at ? im in SC im looking for a place to go and learn lol HELL FIRE

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thanks a ton for watching! The track is in Colorado. The car is sooooo smooth!

[@williamcamacho2235]

Question This Motors work on MR-03 or MR-04 motor mounts? Or the are only for different brand chassis?

[@TheShopMiniRC]

You would need the motor mount for the brushless motor. But yes it can work with an mr03/04

[@ninthislandrc]

First off... HELLFIRE !!! It's been 4 months since you got the Atomic SZ2. How do you like it? Also (if you've ever run either/both), how does it compare to the GL Racing Giulia and/or GLA? As I'm looking to join our local group's AWD class, these are 3 of the 5 chassis I'm currently considering...but, honestly, the SZ2 is my current #1 option.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

It’s been awesome. I wish our local club ran AWD more, but what I have driven of it, has been awesome. I also have the GLA, but it’s completely “stock” so it really needs a brass or steel chassis to get the weight low.

[@ninthislandrc]

@@TheShopMiniRC Woke up this morning, and (I believe) a "final decision" has been made - Atomic SZ2, it will (probably) be. Even better, this will meet the 'qualifications' of two different builds. On one hand, been looking to get 'something' to get into the mini AWD class...on the other hand (and, as I posted on a thread in the RC Tech forum), I've been looking for a complicated/time-consuming build (of any scale), as I'm growing tired of "simple" builds (a perfect example would be Tamiya TT-02). Until yesterday, the Losi TLR-tuned LMT monster truck (1/10 scale) was one of my top two contenders (and, I may still build one down the road). However, after looking over the manual for the SZ2, although not overly time-consuming, due to the size of the parts, it would meet the 'complicated' stipulation. In terms of how 'complicated', just based on manual, I would say it's pretty much on-par with my Reflex RX28SE. As your video was the only one in English that actually showed the chassis (several others show running video, and only one other one over the chassis...but, his were not in English), "thanks" definitely goes in your direction for helping me make this decision. Now, I'll just need to put together a list of required upgrades, as well as a list of recommended upgrades. 🤙🏼

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@ninthislandrc glad I could help! I think you are going to love it. It’s not crazy complicated but def more than the reflex (all AWD cars will be. )

[@mikeruizesparza1514]

Hellfire

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thanks for watching the whole thing!!!

[@frankietort8216]

Hey if you don’t mind me asking what kind of battery do you use in this car

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Any of the 1/28 onroad 350-380 mah batteries. pN racing makes one, GL racing, Reflex Racing, MWX performance, Atomic, they all have one.

[@frankietort8216]

Sweet man thank you I appreciate it the tipp

[@NorCal-yeti]

FOC = Front Of Center. ie Weight Distribution

[@TheShopMiniRC]

FOC when it comes to the motor and esc is Field Oriented Control.

[@NorCal-yeti]

@ lol in archery it is weight up front

[@SuperBubba360]

4WD VS RWD? Better?

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Totally subjective. I love em both.

[@iansadkovich197]

How is the motor temp? The reason I ask is that due to the SZ2's gearing, they tend to run a little hot.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Yeah, it definitely is running hot. I think it needs a 26. But I ran the hell out of it and no smoke. Lol. I need a temp gun.

[@iansadkovich197]

@@TheShopMiniRC Yeah, I was using a 26T when I had a 5500kv in my car. The one for the Giulia should fit.

[@mitch858]

are you racing at hobbytown littletown? Im trying to fins a good number of places to race mini z in the denver area.

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Yes, I race every Friday at the Littleton hobby town. They also race every Thursday in Colorado Springs. There is also a place in Pueblo that races regularly.

[@sull0253]

​@@TheShopMiniRCdo you have info on the Colorado Springs track? Building up a mod SZ2 next week!

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@sull0253 CO springs has the hobby town there and NEW HUGE place should be opening in a few months. Ask the Hobby Town guys for info on that one

[@sull0253]

@@TheShopMiniRC ok awesome thanks so much

[@LuDiamondss]

Your video was very helpful to me, thank you. Question, I have a FlySky Noble NB4, what choices do I have for receivers to fit my Atomic SZ2? That was no easy build I must say. Maybe because I'm a newbie with the mini's. Also, where can I find a 26t pinion gear for that motor? I also have the 5500kv purple motor and matching esc

[@TheShopMiniRC]

any of these will work: www.helidirect.com/products/flysky-gmr-4ch-with-built-in-gyroscope-interface-afhds-3-receiver www.helidirect.com/products/mxo-racing-micro-surface-rx-g-flysky-afhda-built-in-gyro-for-1-28-and-1-24 hobbymatehobby.com/products/flysky-gmr-2-4ghz-4ch-afhds-3-micro-rc-receiver-pwm-output-compatible-pl18-noble-nb4-lite-for-rc-car www.dasmikro.com/product/dm-racing-afhds3-nano-4ch-antennaless-receiver-for-flysky-noble-nb4/ I would check www.wolframrc.com/ for the gear or www.rcatomic.com/atomic/

[@LuDiamondss]

@@TheShopMiniRC Thanks

[@nsbob70]

Anybody make any sort of metal, or heavier duty ring and pinions for those? Those tiny little pinion gears are almost comical!

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Yep. Atomic does.

[@anotherstar8125]

what bodies can you mount to this kit? how do you mount bodies to this kit? can it bind to the mini-z kt-531p? what wheelbase is this?

[@TheShopMiniRC]

You can use any normal mini z body that has clearance. They mount just like a normal mini z. Or lexan with body clips. You Need a receiver that can bind to the kt-531p if you’re trying to use that transmitter.

[@aziminyakub7410]

What type of tyre and wheel offset?

[@TheShopMiniRC]

I think its +1.5 on front and back. and i believe the tires are KSM-Mediums on front and I think they are PN Racing RCP Radial 8 Degree.. But I will likely be putting marka 5's on the rear

[@C_Kojo_Noir]

hellfire

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thanks for watching till the end!

[@arnaudg57]

Hellfire

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thanks a ton for watching!!!

[@tonyborg6918]

This kit ready rtr?

[@TheShopMiniRC]

no, you have to build it.

[@tonyborg6918]

@@TheShopMiniRC very difficult for me

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@tonyborg6918 sorry, there aren’t really many RTR higher end 1/28 scale cars. Nexx Racing makes a slider chassis but you need to add electronics and it’s 2wd and for racing.

[@davidseychell]

i wont one but ready to go not to bilt shazy

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thanks for watchin!