Too small and janky or perfect to get started and your projects?
@robertobrenes52832 жыл бұрын
Too small! I think a work volume of 15cmx15cmx5cm is the minimum to do some pcbs and small parts
@mauminimus2 жыл бұрын
This is perfec for making gears into 1/24 scale rc cars, and small pcbs with smd components
@axelSixtySix2 жыл бұрын
IMHO price decreasing CNC routers claims goes the wrong way. Should we buy a price or a proper tool ? Anyone who experienced CNC routing someday knows the goal is to get a capable machine. And the "capable" word can takes various sense from everyone. Let's propose a definition, shall we ? A capable CNC router is a machine who can get perfect results at the required machining parameters of the biggest tool the spindle can hold, on the harder material the bit itself is able to machine. Let's take as example a Genmitsu 3018. Its ER11 splindle can hold a 7mm carbide bit, so the machine should be able to take 7mm deep in aluminium at 400mm.mn. Unfortunately the machine can't hold it. This is not a capable machine. About the machine shown in your video, can it hold 3mm deep in aluminium at 300mm.mn ? Obviously not. So it's $50 wasted.
@tinayoga88442 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the small size. I am concerned about how fiddly it may be. (need to check into it more) I have a first starter cnc router build in progress with a machining envelope of 200mm x 300mm x 120mm . (parts stage only) It was to be a stepping stone for a later more substantial build. My starter project still will be a substantial effort. The Minimalistic CNC Router now has me rethinking my plans. Now I think I should make a small cnc router than my planned first build. Similar in design of the 3018 but with a smaller build volume of 180mm x 180mm, but more ridged, and a more accurate spindle. Or maybe a derivative of Nikodem Bartnik's original Dremel CNC project. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGScknl3pr51prM
@axelSixtySix2 жыл бұрын
@@tinayoga8844 you should take reference from proper CNC routers. When 3D printed parts are more than 20 times less stiff than aluminium (which is already not the best material to build a CNC router), guess what you get ?
@properprinting2 жыл бұрын
This machine was so small I overlooked it at first. This definitely was one of the hidden gems at mrrf and Paul is an awesome guy! Cool that you've featured him!
@arminth2 жыл бұрын
Jon, I spotted you in the video! Great! Kartoffelsalat!
@properprinting2 жыл бұрын
@@arminth Bratwurst!
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
It was great to meet you Jon! and to get a close-up hands-on look at your belt-drive extruder.
@yschroder2 жыл бұрын
Back in 2009 a friend and I started to build a CNC router out of drawer rails like you did. Back then there was not a lot to build upon. We wanted to do everything ourselves. We built the stepper drivers from L293 and L298 chips. We etched our own PCBs. We programmed an Atmel microcontroller without Arduino. We learned how to create acceleration ramps for the steppers (and that we needed them!). We learned about the Bresenham algorithm to travel diagonally. We even built software to translate SVG files to something the Atmel could parse. We created our own protocol for the serial communication, ignoring the existence of gcode. We only managed a few drawings with a pen and some cuts with a Dremel. We never finished the project, but we learned a ton! We called it "Käsefräse" (cheese mill) because it was basically only capable of cutting cheese.
@cellularmitosis22 жыл бұрын
This sounds like an epically good time! Some rabbit holes are extremely satisfying
@vishnu77948 ай бұрын
You can consider it as incredible journey and learning.
@yschroder8 ай бұрын
Yes, we had an incredible time and what I learned helped me to today. I now pay my bills doing stuff like that.
@vishnu77948 ай бұрын
@@yschroder Happy to hear that. I m sure you enjoyed those diy moments. Diy is tough and some times turns expensive but learning and experience we gain really matter.
@literalghost9292 жыл бұрын
The coolest thing about tools such as CNC, 3d printers, lathe, etc., is that once you have the tool, you can use the tool improve or build a better version of the tool using the tool. Just an incredible concept!
@yschroder2 жыл бұрын
This is done in a lot of software projects as well. Ever wondered which operating system the Linux developers use? Or what version control system is used to develop git? A big milestone when creating a new compiler is reached when it is able to compile its own source code. I guess it can become confusing at times 😅
@literalghost9292 жыл бұрын
@@yschroder Yeah. The 'ultimate' tool will be the AI. Once an AI can improve upon itself, and then its improved version can improve itself even better, just like in the movie transcendence, the repercussions will be unfathomable.
@ravenous142 жыл бұрын
Pretty much how we got to the precision machining we know today haha
@D9ID9I2 жыл бұрын
That's how robots will enslave human being one day.
@literalghost9292 жыл бұрын
@@D9ID9I Don't think we'll get to that point. Humanity in the next couple of decades will suffer the repercussions of overpopulation and there's a very good chance that society will collapse, there will be mass human starvation, deaths, and anyone who survives will be far more concerned with staying alive and finding food than coding AI. So very likely, there won't be an humanity to enslave because humanity is in the final process of making itself extinct. So sentient self improving AI will very likely never get to be born.
@hullinstruments2 жыл бұрын
I had a well known company approach me about a decade ago. When I was doing a lot of engineering and machining in my business but my wife was getting into wholesale industrial scale jewelry production. They wanted me to help them develop a very very precise and expensive desktop CNC machine for jewelers and watchmakers. Something not only capable of machining stuff for Jewelry like lost wax forms and molds…. but also something capable of ridiculously tiny and precise mechanical watch parts. A buddy of mine ended up helping them develop it instead, and that little tiny thing was the size of a shoebox and cost tens of thousands of dollars. But was super impressive and there are a lot of them in use in Switzerland and other places known for small precise parts. Long story short… After being involved with that process a bit……me and my buddy both decided we could make something nearly as good and have it manufactured in Shenzhen. Since we both visited a few times a year back in those days and we can kind of watch the manufacturing process and keep tabs on everything. But you could make an insanely accurate watchmakers style tabletop machine … Capable of five axis machining of any type of material imaginable. for a surprisingly cheap amount. I can’t imagine how well and cheaply that could be done these days. Over the last decade 3-D printing and hobbyist stuff has made it unbelievably easy and cheap to tackle a project like that especially if you have a good team of guys working on it together. It’s been one of the best parts of my life getting to watch over the last 10 or 20 years… How incredibly precise and nice equipment is available on Amazon second day air mail to anyone who wants to start the Hobby. As an old timer machinist, engineer, and tool and die maker type guy… It’s just been a great thing to watch it become more readily available to everyone. Obviously China isn’t perfect but it wouldn’t have been possible without them. I hate the CCP because of how they treat their people but the Chinese people themselves… Salt of the earth type folks and then anyone hasn’t had a chance to go over there and learn a bit… I highly suggest it before spreading around ignorant BS that people always talk about and badmouth the Chinese people for. To hell with their government but the people are awesome This video is super cool because someone could develop that and take it as far as they wanted. And be able to get absolutely incredible space-age tight parts off of it if they wanted to invest a bit of time and money in rigidity
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Is your cost-reduced watchmaker machine an available thing?
@WPGinfo2 жыл бұрын
Every project that teaches you something you did not know or do before is worth the effort, regardless of the 'result'. This is FUN!
@iangirvan81412 жыл бұрын
In my experience, building a 3D printer based on old CD drives not only broaden my understanding of 3D printing but also machine control in general. My aim in doing it wasn't to create a practical printer, but the fun and the challenging in actually doing it. I fully related to the water bottle Z-axis counter weight! I used combination of fishing sinkers as my counter weights. Cool post.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
😀
@EngineeringVignettes2 жыл бұрын
It's a great $50 tutorial and educational experience on understanding CNC machines and, more importantly, what is critical to get right when making one. The initial size is not so much of a problem... all CNC machines use the same basic principals. Cheers Stefan, nice to see how you are progressing on your channel (I have not made a comment in a long time).
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eddy, appreciate it! It's a nice change trying another format for some weeks here and I'm glad to see that viewers enjoy it as well.
@repalmore2 жыл бұрын
I think this is PERFECT STEM school project. Allowing students to make something they can take home and continue to grow their technology skills. Really cool project.
@sedon70982 жыл бұрын
Always great to get an accessible option. And i always love the idea of fully building something yourself to get a sense how it works.
@Guardian_Arias2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, a diy cnc, printer, lathe, band saw, or 120cm x 60cm router table is a great way to learn a lot about machining fast. I made a massive router table and it lead me down a path to learn about flat surfaces. Although not cnc there is still a lot to be learned about feed speeds and spindle speeds that are intuitively learned from manually feeding stock.
@MrBlakBunny2 жыл бұрын
Honestly be a good place to start, go the route a lot of hobbysts seem to "Build the thing to build the thing to upgrade the thing to build the thing" I could see using this to make more detailed parts, and slowly upgrading the machine over time
@CNCmachiningisfun2 жыл бұрын
WOW! I just had a HUGE CNC mill delivered to my farm today, and it took a crew of skilled staff to set it up, so it is such a great pleasure to see this tiny homemade machine going thru its paces. Well done, guys :) .
@planckstudios2 жыл бұрын
Those parts are beautiful! Great find at the show - love seeing a maker's home brew precision break through a common barrier. Besting the dremel collet's runout is badass
@NicksStuff2 жыл бұрын
I love the "filter"
@robertobrenes52832 жыл бұрын
I built a cheap CNC back in 2017 using arduino UNO, plywood and nema 17 and the whole process opened my eyes !
@TechsScience2 жыл бұрын
Amazing The hanging water bottle made me amazed
@tozpeak2 жыл бұрын
What a cool solution with counterweight! I definetely will remember this, it is a good way to move a heavy part if much less force available.
@Crushonius2 жыл бұрын
its literally how an elevator works i thought this was common knowledge
@tozpeak2 жыл бұрын
@@Crushonius it is a common obvious knowledge if your number one task is to lift things. But using it to compensate a weak servo is kinda clever. First thought would be just taking bigger servo and calling it done.
@Carbon_2 жыл бұрын
This is a cool addition to a 3d printer. You can do the heavy parts with the 3d printer and the small and detailled parts with the CNC
@amethystleigh46462 жыл бұрын
my first thought was that this would be worthless because of its miniscule build area, but then i realized that by bulding this machine i could then use that gained knowledge to the n build myself a larger, more powerful machine, and that knowledge would also be priceless for future projects!
@yeroca2 жыл бұрын
How can this little machine not be useful and super fun? Thanks for posting this!
@AzaB2C2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Stefan. Turned my 4 feet x 8 feet self built CNC on today. Great learning experience.
@thethubbedone2 жыл бұрын
I worked on a large industrial CNC mill that used a simple weight to counterbalance the Z axis. I love the water bottle counterbalance
@Londrino2 жыл бұрын
When all you've got is a 3d printer, something that can make small precise parts like these is a perfect complement.
@PaulDominguez2 жыл бұрын
I love these short DIY build vids that fire up the imagination. But please don't stop making the science type analysis vids.
@homemadetools2 жыл бұрын
Clever. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@tvathome5622 жыл бұрын
Excellent RepRap spirit, taking things back to basics....overcoming issues on a budget the reason why we have 3d printers now... I think I could build that for about $ 50, by salvaging parts and buying second hand, I don't see an issue again its overcoming issues by being creative.
@AerialWaviator2 жыл бұрын
Like all tools, each has a set problem space where it works well, and many that it wouldn't be an ideal solution enabler. So no don't think this too janky a CNC machine. For someone wanting to learn about CNC machine fundamentals, this would be a great learning. The amount of learning provided for $50 is exceptional value. For creators making jewelry, or other smaller items this could be a pragmatic way to learn and test design ideas. Bigger is not always better.
@reverse_engineered2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great idea. Lots of these things could be scavenged or would be available in leftovers from another project. The main materials are available at your local hardware store - no need to buy things online and pay for shipping. The larger parts (like the rotary tool) you might already have or could be used for other things. The size might be too small for some things, but it's large enough for a lot of small, detailed pieces where that small collet and bit would make sense. You could even size it up without too much trouble. For the cost, I think it's a great platform for getting started in designing, assembling, and troubleshooting something like this. It's a much smaller investment and less dangerous than starting with larger, more expensive machines. There's also plenty of room to start upgrading it. You can use HDPE or aluminum for the frame, larger ACME lead screws and stepper motors, a proper spindle, add a small pump and some oil for lubrication and cooling, and so much more. You can do it in steps, replacing one part at a time, while maintaining a working machine. This isn't so different from the CNC mill my hackerspace first build over 10 years ago and we still use it to this day. We started with a larger frame and a trim router instead of a rotary tool, but considering the difference in scale, I think the capabilities would otherwise be quite similar. Building such a large machine required some expensive parts that weren't easy to get, whereas something smaller like this is much more approachable and obtainable. Now that I don't have a CNC mill of my own, but I do have a laser cutter and 3D printer, I'm tempted to build something along these lines. I might not go with quite as cheap of linear actuators, but otherwise it's not that different from building a small 3D printer. Thanks for the inspiration!
@boiclyde2 жыл бұрын
Almost a pocket CNC! This is wild, imagine just spending a little extra money on materials. I'm excited to see where the project goes and what the community will do with it.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Check out "PocketNC". It's more than a little extra money but you can call it "aspirational" :) (apparently comments with links look too much like spam)
@PaulDominguez2 жыл бұрын
I like the built in water bottle holder
@HoffmanTactical2 жыл бұрын
When I was young I always wanted to do one of these!
@rklauco2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing - would fit on any desk, which is advantage comparing to the off-the-shelf CNC machines. I've learned from printing that making the biggest parts is far from the most important capability.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
The small footprint and chip/dust containment are a couple of my favorite things about this that make it usable without dedicating space for it.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and just look at his dust filtering solution 😉
@caseykline23272 жыл бұрын
The potential I see here is for making small injection molded parts. Being able to make a reusable high definition mold for that just at home with minimal cost is amazing
@jimmysgameclips2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I've wondered about this idea because like, why not. A dremel CAN do it
@Breakfast_and_Bullets2 жыл бұрын
Of course, the year I can't make it to MRRF all my favorite creators are there and people bring amazing builds. I'm gonna have to build one of these.
@imqqmi2 жыл бұрын
I love building machines, I've went through several iterations of 3d printer as well as cnc machines. I've started out with kits and ended up building my own. I spend quite a bit of money so ai can't say it's a minimalist approach, but apso not the most difficult one. I can hughly recommend building your own, I had a lot of fun during these projects. Now I enjoy using them. The 3d prins and cnc parts are leaps and bounds ahead of what I could do with the kits I started out with.
@Rebar77_real2 жыл бұрын
Perfect if you need plenty of small things without tying up a larger machine. You can get flexible extensions for rotary tools. Wouldn't that solve some weight issues if you could mount the actual tool separately?
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
There was a "MicroMill" Kickstarter that used a rotary tool+flex shaft. (apparently links in comments look too much like spam) In this case, the other problem is that the shallow pitch lead screws chatter when loaded in the direction of motion, so the Z axis needs counterbalance to move downward even with no tool mounted. Assuming success, the next rev will lose the Z leadscrew and the whole problem will go away.
@FreshAlacrity Жыл бұрын
Very excited to see an inexpensive CNC for milling tiny parts! That's exactly what I was looking for ✨
@ph0t0dave2 жыл бұрын
I think this thing is awesome! We need more people coming up with things like these to spark the imaginations of others and help to move more innovations forward! :) Im definitely going to take a closer look at this thing and maybe even try to 3Dprint the MiniMill. I already have at least 4 projects where I think this would be very useful. Thanks for sharing this!
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
🙂 3D printing the cut parts might work. I suspect that re-casting some of the ideas of this project into a new design for 3D printing could gain from opportunities to do things differently. Either way, I'd love to hear from anyone who tries.
@ph0t0dave2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmcclay8697 Hey Paul Thanks for replying. I'm currently in the early stages of building a Voron 2.4r2 but after that I may look at ways to incorporate 3d printing into a build of your CNC. if I get anywhere with it Ill definitely send you a note as I love building different things especially when I can use those things to build other things lol and I have gone through a number of projects over the last 40 plus years lol. ! :)
@hithere25612 жыл бұрын
Things that actually work dont have to look good. Every journey have to start with first step and this project seems like really good first step for me. I can bet that this machine will be first step for many future backyard engineers or maybe even real engineers.
@whyldthing862 жыл бұрын
This is a good start-up project.
@literallykey32982 жыл бұрын
Super cool and clever! Hopefully I can make one someday, looks like a fun project.
@DonsArtnGames2 жыл бұрын
🤣I was LITERALLY just thinking about making my own mini mill when this popped up on my recommended videos list... Methinks it's a sign...
@rcmaniac252 жыл бұрын
Awesome project! I still love the counter weight water bottle, even if he's solved it.
@adamfilipowicz92602 жыл бұрын
I have a Old Lulzbot mini with broken controller and old Wade 2.8mm extruder. this is enspiring me to convert it into a small CNC
@madadivad19862 жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe I missed this…I live just a couple hours away from there!
@flatline-timer2 жыл бұрын
My dad is going to LOVE this video...
@LonersGuide2 жыл бұрын
Improvisation has a beauty which a perfectionist can never attain. --Me
@tonyhere70042 жыл бұрын
Could be pretty nice for making functional cuts in small metal parts, if you had an idea for a novel heatblock face geometry or similar
@Terminarch2 жыл бұрын
Always had this dream of getting a big workshop and slowly manufacturing my own machines from only starting with hand tools, spare parts, and scrap material. This is inspirational, to say the least.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Well, starting from laser cut parts cuts across your idea of starting with hand tools, but please do take any ideas from here that help you on your way!
@spankeyfish2 жыл бұрын
As somebody who owns both of them, the easiest workaround for the runout on the Dremel spindle is to buy a Proxxon IBS/E. Proxxons are much, much more precisely made but also more fragile.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
In some parallel universe, I agree. But I tried a succession of three IBS/Es (Amazon exchanges) and gave up. The first one had small enough runout with good repeatability, which I liked, but excess axial free play. The next two had better, maybe ok, but not great axial play but poor runout. And runout+repeatability=bad. So, serious question: Has Proxxon become an empty brand now, or should I wait some time for bad stock to turn over and try again?
@spankeyfish2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmcclay8697 Dunno, I got mine in 2018 and it's been perfect. I also have the right angle version (same year) which is a bit janky in that there's _a lot_ of backlash in the bevel gears. Maybe they downgraded to cheaper bearings at some point :(
@jauken832 жыл бұрын
I assume the aquarium air pump is for blowing chips away from the bit? That's pretty genius!
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's very "proof of concept" and obviously not well integrated, but it does prove that it doesn't take much air to be useful if directed right at the action. I'm still thinking about how to do it with less bulk and better integration.
@arminth2 жыл бұрын
If you have a 3D printer, you could check out MPCNC. Quite a bit more expensive, but way more capable. From a learning perspective, pretty much on par (maybe even better).
@teguh.hofstee2 жыл бұрын
After what happened a couple years ago with the creator? No thanks.
@tomatguitar2 жыл бұрын
@@teguh.hofstee What happened with creator?
@teguh.hofstee2 жыл бұрын
@@tomatguitar Thomas Sanladerer has a video about it. TL;DR: he made a part for the MPCNC and released it as CC0, creator copyright claims against him because it's supposedly a derivative work and having monetization on videos supposedly goes against the original license. A part designed from scratch to fit/upgrade an existing machine is not a violation of copyright and if that's how the creator wants to see it regardless of anything else I want nothing to do with it. The whole situation is a bit of a mess on both sides but that one point is pretty clearly in Tom's favor.
@EvertvanIngen2 жыл бұрын
That LCD monitor was straight from 2005 👏🤣
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
A bona fide trash pick. It's what I had that fit in the case I wanted to use. It did the job. :)
@rpavlik12 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. I kind of want to make one now. Certainly a useful scale: my 3d printer gets pretty annoying heat creep unless I print at large layer sizes, so my precision looks a lot lower than that.
@_spartan117962 жыл бұрын
Super clever!
@Logan.2 жыл бұрын
I just got into your channel, never knew this gathering existed, and it's right in my backyard! If you plan on being at the next one, I'll see ya there!
@piconano2 жыл бұрын
Since I built my 3D Prusa RepRap some 12 years ago, I haven't had any use for a mill. If I want a part in metal, I'll print it in PLA and use it as a mold to sand cast it in aluminum or brass. I agree 100%. If you wanna know something, study. If you wanna know something well, built it.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
I'd like to try some casting from 3d printed positives - that actually got a boost up the list recently...
@dekutree642 жыл бұрын
@@paulmcclay8697 I've done a few, and failed a surprisingly large number of times even with the help of my father who did a lot of gold and silver jewelry casting in the past. Aluminum forms such a thick oxide skin, it's hard to tell if a small quantity is actually melted or not. And then if you heat it much above the melting temperature it dissolves hydrogen from the atmosphere and comes out full of little bubbles. Larger pieces without any thin sections would probably be easy though. Use natural PLA so it burns out completely and doesn't leave any pigment residue in the mold. There's no need for carefully controlled burnout temperature. My dad's old burnout oven is just a hot plate burner in an enclosure made of fire clay, no temperature control. Leave it in there until there doesn't seem to be any plastic left, and then give it another 20-30 minutes to be sure. Let the mold cool down some before pouring, else the aluminum stays liquid in there for several minutes (found out the hard way).
@dekutree642 жыл бұрын
Casting plus machining is awesome though. Save a lot of time and money compared to machining from a solid block, but still get high precision where you need it.
@kcbrandao38022 жыл бұрын
I love this. such a hands on way to learn and have something to toy around with at the end.
@RomanoPRODUCTION2 жыл бұрын
it is so cute. so tiny.
@RandallStephens3972 жыл бұрын
"many of us may have [a dremel] at home that we rarely use" I feel attacked. >_>
@markmorgan83782 жыл бұрын
very cool
@MisterKaen2 жыл бұрын
Very cool I was looking for ideas for my next machine. Altering coins with new faces alone makes this project worth it. A pepe nickle would be one of the coolest things.
@ingusmant2 жыл бұрын
Could be good for small PCBs
@andreasthaler70682 жыл бұрын
Das ist ja geil!
@yourlocaltoad51022 жыл бұрын
I always have to smile when I hear where the festival is, as „Goshen, Indiana“ sounds quite similar to „Goschn Indiana“, which would be austrian for „Shut up Indiana“. I can only imagine that this is exactly what we would hear quite often in an austrian dub of the „Young Indiana Jones“-show they once made.
@kelvinwolf2252 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video Stefan, I am loving the content lately. What do you think about converting a 3d printer into a CNC machine? I'd love to cut carbon fiber for custom drone parts!
@dekutree642 жыл бұрын
Try cutting underwater with diamond bits. They chew through carbon with very little force, and the water keeps it cool and contains the dust.
@devilking1982 жыл бұрын
I think like you too. This is not a waste of time. If anyone can make it, he also makes a big one without any effort.
@martial4matters8 ай бұрын
don't know if you saw that but he is recreating the minamil parts to be 3d printed so no more laser cutting needed. pretty exciting! :)
@toctoc99272 жыл бұрын
That is sooo janky but at the same SO cool and creative, I don't even know what to say 😂
@michaelhagerman10742 жыл бұрын
Bro is using a covid mask as a dust filter! I love it.
@ruuman2 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@habiks2 жыл бұрын
I bought dremel some 10+ years ago, returned it to shop the same day (the most crappy tool ever), switched to proxxon and using it ever since.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I think Paul even mentioned to me that he changed to a Proxxon.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
I tried a Proxxon IBS/E, almost liked it, tried a couple of exchanges that were worse, and gave up. I wonder if Proxxon has become an empty brand since you bought yours. Anyone out there bought one lately? (semi-duplicate reply)
@TheSuitedEngineer2 жыл бұрын
Obadiah: "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!"
@dennisdecoene2 жыл бұрын
Me: but it's laser cut! Stefan: you can even print it with pla. Me: challenge accepted.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
🙂 3D printing the cut parts might work. I suspect that re-casting some of the ideas of this project into a new design for 3D printing could gain from opportunities to do things differently. Either way, I'd love to hear from anyone who tries.
@bluedeath9962 жыл бұрын
I would like to see if granite chopping boards cemented together as the base and back would make it stiffer and able to move a little faster.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Rigidity of the base hasn't been a limiting factor so far. It would be great to see cheap compact motion parts developed to where base material is the next necessary upgrade!
@zakm0n2 жыл бұрын
Hah! I'm in a CNC kitchen video! It's just my massive ass, but still.
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@XenonG2 жыл бұрын
It can precision mill small parts, far from useless.
@GNARGNARHEAD2 жыл бұрын
that's awesome. still waiting for the maker community to pick up on Electro Discharge Machining EDM, using a spark to ablate metals for incredibly precise cutting.. even as a intermediate electronics enthusiast I manages to build a spark generator, with some oversight from some engineer buddies a few years back, it's nothing more than a timed discharge of some capacitors through MOSFETs.. anyways, food for thought
@sebastianjezierski84502 жыл бұрын
Ben from Applied Science built one, but he used some professional hardware. The hard part is controlling movement (you need to adjust it based on current, backing up if it gets too high) and also keeping EMI under control.
@dekutree642 жыл бұрын
I was looking into it a while back, but am able to get by with my mini mill so can't justify spending the time and money. There is at least one person on hackaday making a sinker EDM machines using the motion system from a cheap 3D printer, which is exactly what I would do. If you're good at scavenging parts for the water system and spark generator the whole machine could be built for cheap, but transformers are expensive new. Ben Fleming's pulse EDM book is great.
@markwilliams56542 жыл бұрын
Reprap master race open source everything
@winandd86492 жыл бұрын
@1:07 "Proper printing" host spotted 🤟😄
@openlink99582 жыл бұрын
you know those videos that you know are getting like a million views only because of the thumbnail? I'm pretty sure this will be one eventually
@DejitaruJin2 жыл бұрын
That's almost identical to how I set up the first 3D printer that I built. Now that I have a 'real' 3D printer, I imagine I could repurpose the mechanics & Arduino Uno for this sort of project instead...
@medyk3D2 жыл бұрын
3:28 even a small CNC is wearing a face mask these days 🤣
@GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE2 жыл бұрын
I guess if you have the parts and it's all you got it's what you got to work with
@asdfdfggfd Жыл бұрын
LOL, I use my Dremmel tool all the time. whenever i need to grind a bit of metal smaller and more detail than my grinder can get.
@REDxFROG2 жыл бұрын
I'd move the drill horizontal
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
I would too -- that was the idea I started with. But it didn't work because shallow pitch lead screws, in some circumstances of which this is one, chatter hard when loaded in the direction of motion. If you roll the XY table on its side with the "top" axis vertical, it will easily run up but fail to move its own weight back down at any useful speed. So the XY table works only when close to horizontal. This is a problem I didn't expect and still don't see much common information about, so it's not like you overlooked something obvious.
@imwatching29012 жыл бұрын
Not saying I’m lazy but is there away I can buy one pre-built 😁
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Find someone who built one & got far enough into CNC to warrant a bigger stronger machine. 😀 I don't expect the design in this form to make sense for selling built machines because there is a lot of manual assembly. A design for complete assembly in quantity would probably use some up-front investment to reduce per-unit hand work.
@hullinstruments2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see someone take this a bit further and invest a few hundred dollars in aluminum rails, maybe a heavy steel bed or frame. And see how rigid they can get this thing. Would be incredible in my opinion.
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Agree :) ...or invest a few thousand dollars in a "PocketNC"... Also :) (would link, but apparently that looks to much like spam)
@user-tw2kr6hg4r2 жыл бұрын
Will you make a video about the new volcano CHT nozzle?
@user-tw2kr6hg4r2 жыл бұрын
So far I couldn't find anything about it except for the BondTech and the 3DJake site.
@bruderdasisteinschwerermangel Жыл бұрын
I dont think I have a use for a machine like that... But I wanna build one anyway
@MrVivi00012 жыл бұрын
Can this be scaled up ??
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean. Pretty nearly all CNC machines are bigger and stronger than this. Is there a particular feature of this design that you're asking about?
@lastundani33482 жыл бұрын
Review on proper printing belt extruder, when?
@yourlocaltoad51022 жыл бұрын
I already have a small manual mill (a Proxxon MF70) and so I might not build a cnc from the ground up, but I still intend to convert it to cnc as soon as I have the funds and figured out a way to properly control the motor speed and install a ER11 collet on it so I get get rid of the Proxxon-specific collet system. If everything works out as I hope it does, I should be able to machine steel with it and I really wanna develop my own direct drive system and Hotend for my Ender 3, so the ability to machine steel and other metals will be quite useful. It would be really cool if you could do a video that’s a introduction to diy cnc mills covering the basics of a motion system, what’s needed to control it and some of the software behind it, as that’s something that I haven’t yet been able to find a good KZbin video on. And having a good video is always nicer than having to read a bunch of blogs and websites (with half of them only mentioning things they can sell via amazon) to get a basic grasp on a topic.
@naren4wood560 Жыл бұрын
hey hey, im also intrested in cncing, but the biggest prob i run in is the electrics, im a bit scared when it comes to the buy and put together part of the electronics, so maybe you can recoment me someone that shows what to buy how to cable and how to intall in aclear and easy way? thx for the great videos, im going to start 3d printing also when my new 3d printer comes :D
@milestailprower2 жыл бұрын
Up next, overclock your $1 laser pointer into a laser cutter 🤯
@jonathanvoshell79142 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the Coding of this is the only thing that peaks my interest.
@Crushonius2 жыл бұрын
i like this project and he is a cool dude no doubt and ten years ago man this would have been such a useful cool project . but its 2022 and if you factor in the cost of the dremel you almost are at the price of a 3018 genmitsu or even cheaper a clone of it i found some on german amazon for around 165 its a sore dick deal you cant beat it
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
:) I haven't seen comparable precision from a 3018-type machine. And a rotary tool is a general purpose item that can earn it's own keep, no?
@Crushonius2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmcclay8697 i am not sure which 3018 you have used or seen in real life but i can at least talk for the genmitsu and it can easily be as precise as this diy CNC . With a little bit of tweaking it will downright outperform it
@paulmcclay86972 жыл бұрын
@@Crushonius Apparently replies here can't mention even an obfuscated pointer to other content, which makes it harder to answer directly. When I looked for examples of fine pitch circuit board milling with 3018-type machines, the cleanest example I found was an SO-pitch breakout board. That, and a couple of functional but rough examples of 0.5mm pitch were the best I found. Please send better examples of fine circuit milling or other work at similar scale, for more valid comparison!
@gizmobowen2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't that the dude from Proper Printing looking at this CNC in the beginning?
@CNCKitchen2 жыл бұрын
Yeees, that was Jón! He accompanied me on the trip to MRRF.