Minisforum UM780 XTX Review With Oculink RTX 4090 eGPU Test!

Minisforum UM780XTX Review. It has an Oculink port which allows for the best eGPU speeds possible up to 63Gbps with no TB3 overhead. Starts from €569 (Barebones) s.minisforum.com/TechTablets_... Minisforum RGB keyboard: s.minisforum.com/TechTablets_...
00:00 - Intro
01:20 - Unboxing
03:09 - Design and features
04:51 - How to open it and install the Oculink M.2 adapter
06:39 - The bios, TDP plus allocating more RAM to the Radeon 780M
07:59 - Windows, benchmarks, devices and performance
09:55 - Thermals and fan noise sample
10:31 - 4k video editing plus 780M Vs RTX 4090
11:44 - My Oculink eGPU setup with RTX 4090
12:58 - 3Dmark Timespy Oculink score
13:29 - iGPU Vs Oculink eGPU gaming tests
17:16 - UM780XTX Linux support
17:35 - Final words with Pros and Cons

[@Techtablets]

Starts from €569 (Barebones) s.minisforum.com/TechTablets_UM780XTX Minisforum RGB keyboard: s.minisforum.com/TechTablets_MKBi83 00:00 - Intro 01:20 - Unboxing 03:09 - Design and features 04:51 - How to open it and install the Oculink M.2 adapter 06:39 - The bios, TDP plus allocating more RAM to the Radeon 780M 07:59 - Windows, benchmarks, devices and performance 09:55 - Thermals and fan noise sample 10:31 - 4k video editing plus 780M Vs RTX 4090 11:44 - My Oculink eGPU setup with RTX 4090 12:58 - 3Dmark Timespy Oculink score 13:29 - iGPU Vs Oculink eGPU gaming tests 17:16 - UM780XTX Linux support 17:35 - Final words with Pros and Cons

[@riccardo2109]

Which is better between the um790 pro minisforum and the um780xtx minisforum?

[@joelconolly5574]

Dang it only came out and you already have a review unit. Now that's some great recognition 👏🏻.

[@Techtablets]

Got it it a week ago to test :)

[@muSPKWoW]

To be fair, minisforum said from the beginning that the release date was set to the end of October, though it never happend. I am glad Chris got it fast, so he could review it for us.

[@Techtablets]

@@muSPKWoWI also hope to get hold of that new Mini ITX board they have with PCIE 5 slot and twice PCIE 5.0 M2 slots.

[@shinnicko5]

This has actually settled it for me, will be picking this up and setting up some kind of eGPU after Christmas as well. Great video!

[@Techtablets]

Glad I could help!

[@icantwait]

Professionally done review. Mate I've seen you growing soooooo much! Awesome job!

[@Techtablets]

Thanks for watching!

[@Dom_Mason]

Barebone is like $479 not bad. Plus options to add more GPU power with the Oculink port. Amazing! Best mini PC by far. Thanks for review!

[@Techtablets]

I think this really is the best Mini PC yet, really no cons I cannot fault it and the performance for such a tiny unit is amazing. Running 70W performance mode it's even better and if I dedicate 8GB to the 780M games have slightly better average FPS. Playing some AAA titles with playable FPS on an iGPU is amazing. I can't wait to see the next Gen Intel iGPU in action.

[@RUHappyATM]

USD 150 extra for 32GB, 1TB and Win 11 (Pro?) is also a good deal for out-of-the-box experience.

[@aqf0786]

What about next gen AMD?

[@abdu9754]

​@Techtablets Please, I'd like to know, how important is it that minisforum provide BIOS updates? I've read that that is an issue for some people, but I don't even fully understand whether that's an important factor in whether I purchase this or not. Please, answer if you have any insight on this matter, you seem to know alot about the topic. Thanks.

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@RUHappyATMYeah dude. If you bought that yourself it would be a similar price! Excellent prices imo

[@DSS553]

No one had heard of this unit yet when you first uploaded it. But the word is out now and it's officially gone on sale at their web shop, so the video should do a lot better. Excellent review as always. I just trust reviews more when you do them, I know we're getting your honest opinion no matter what.

[@Techtablets]

Yes part of the reason I pulled the first video, nobody knew about it. Hope it does better, KZbin loves killing videos lol. Thanks for the support, this is the Mini PC i've been waiting for, the best yet but the eGPU support makes it nice and tidy having the plug on the rear instead of my cutting a gap for the cable like before.

[@superghetto420]

Well in terms of nobody knowing about it in the Mainstream I can agree but I have been waiting for this for most of the year and I am glad that it finally made its release and that it actually performs the way they said it would good video for sure thanks

[@muSPKWoW]

Yes, Chris is one of the best China tech reviewers out there, and have been so for years!

[@Techtablets]

@@muSPKWoW Far from the best but thank you for the support it means a lot espcially nowadays with views becoming hard to come by.

[@ivovass195]

Very power mini pc that can be expanded to even faster setup with external gpu via the oculink, quite impressive indeed. Thanks for sharing with us

[@Techtablets]

No problem!

[@crikitaviation]

Really like the fact that you tested this with Premiere Pro 2024 for us non-gamers that need GPU power for Video Editing and CAD. We seem to be the forgotten GPU users! Excellent review, I have one on order for Christmas!

[@Techtablets]

I've been using this as my desktop PC, just the 780M can handle my own video editing just fine. Quite a surprise and only add some 8k footage has caused it to lag.

[@crikitaviation]

@@Techtablets That's great to hear! I'm replacing a 4 year old Lenovo Laptop with this as my desktop. Premiere Pro said my UHD 620 graphics were not compatible with PP 2024 and Lenovo doesn't have any driver updates. I also use Solidworks and Fusion 360 so having the ability to add a GPU with Oculink is great. In fact, I bought my son a new GPU card for his gaming PC for Christmas so I can use his current AMD GPU Card as an eGPU for my new MinisForum 780!

[@muSPKWoW]

Welcome back! I was so sad when you took this video down!

[@Techtablets]

Sorry KZbin killed it dead at 2k views so I deleted it and now this is doing much better

[@nerd26373]

We appreciate your reviews. Keep working hard.

[@Techtablets]

Thanks for watching and your support.

[@mcal27]

Thanks for this. I think this is the one I've been waiting for. I have an Oculink eGPU already and this will be the ideal match

[@Techtablets]

It's perfect then with the Oculink port on the back it makes it a lot cleaner before I had the cable sticking out of a mini pc with a hole cut fir the cable this is of course much better now. Easier to plug in and out.

[@vladNMP]

awesome review, keep it up!

[@pandaDotDragon]

thank you for the quick linux test

[@hadespaganism2405]

That is a great mini computer, and I have one. I bought it last week from Amazon and also had a coupon for 180 dollars off, and I paid 719. I only bought the computer to play games, like doom eternal, halo, fear and half life. I did do research and comparing to other mini computers and this is one of the best

[@benjiro8793]

To be honest, i expect the Oculink to be build in, not just a addon PCB, that uses one of your m.2 slots. You can just as well use a k43sg (m.2 to PCIe 4.0 4x) at that point. Costs $50, combine that with a morefine m600 and voila, same benefits but the m600 cost you $450 ($400 if you use the "start buy, enter data, do not finish buying, wait a few hours for $50 discount coupon" trick). So you can have the ~ same setup for $450, where the UM780XTX is $480 + Oculink cable (not cheap) + Oculink PCB. With the M600 also giving you a SATA connector for more storage, so even if you go eGPU, you have two storage options (1x m.2 + 1x SATA), where the UM780XTX fixes you down to x1 m.2. And hidden bonus, the M600 has Intel LGA 1155 Cooler mounting holes, so you can get a slow profile ID-Cooling IS-27 or ID-Cooling IS-30 for way more quiet noise and thermals (take in account, you need 3mm extra high on backside). Example (Brazil video): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJSaYol_eL2Nndksi=7rlkgGdky5auuCOx The UM780XTX Oculink is not what i expected. I expected a actual dedicated port, like we see on GPD Win Max 2 (2023) or Mini (2023).

[@2000jalebi]

The Oculink while still take PCIe lanes from the CPU. They could have just gave 3 m.2 slots better yet or just built in like you said

[@bilwit]

i think you can technically use oculink for storage expansion if you wanted. With the dual 2.5Gbps ports it's probably better for NAS storage if you really need mass storage beyond a single M.2

[@denmaakujin9161]

Need more oculink videos 😮

[@Techtablets]

Yes maybe more coming since I bought all the stuff for it.

[@jeffsaw2008]

You're great Chris......

[@Techtablets]

Thanks and you for watching!

[@nelsonngu]

I heard you said DYI haha, just messing with ya bud ;) very well explain. Love the video!

[@Techtablets]

Yeah lol I meant obviously DIY eGPU not DYU :D

[@BertSineanLindeboom]

I have my um790 pro w/ oculink and my 7900xt . Really really happy with it. No issues with any AAA titles. I still may buy the 780 xtx once they have it on Amazon. Now I'm just waiting on the review of their new minisforum keyboard.

[@Techtablets]

I'll have that keyboard soon, but likely just a twitter post for that, not worth a dedicated video but it looks good. Minisforum are moving in the right direction.

[@Techtablets]

Also I was using my UM790 (No issues) with this RTX 4090 and oculink, but not as clean as this now with the port on the back makes it more tidy.

[@superghetto420]

I was also looking at that keyboard. I am sure that someone will make a vid of it or at least a youtube short

[@BertSineanLindeboom]

@@superghetto420 Just wonder how it stacks up against a keychron board. Using the v1 atm.

[@superghetto420]

@@BertSineanLindeboom I am going to look that keyboard you have up right now is it any good?

[@MaxPower-11]

Thanks for the review. It looks like you might be able to replace the Thunderbolt board in that eGPU enclosure with the OCULink one if the screw holes line up.

[@Techtablets]

Yes that's the plan I will be doing that as I really don't liek the performance loss using TB3 so I'm done with that TB3 PCB.

[@daveandrews6384]

Did the holes line up for the oculink board? If they did please can you send a link for the thunder bolt 4 dock? Thank you, great video 👍

[@alb.1911]

Fantastic!!!!

[@biocyber4544]

..thanks for the review! IMO they should include the Occulink as standard to Laptops and Mini PCs..

[@Techtablets]

Agreed! We are going to see more Mini PCs with it now, but we need this on laptops as standard 100% until Thunderbolt 5.0.

[@sflxn]

Thunderbolt 5 is coming next year. 80gbps.

[@Techtablets]

120 Gbps max I thought I read?

[@sflxn]

@@Techtablets I stand corrected. Wow, even better.

[@cmathieu]

Great review...would be interesting to see how it handles a Plex hardware transcode with and without the eGPU. Also, how does this compare to the UM790 Pro? Deciding between the 2 at the moment and only as a Plex server

[@Techtablets]

I think it's better than the UM790 has a higher power limit set. As for Plex sorry haven't tested it I can't cover everything.

[@hokayson6518]

If you're only after a Plex box this is WAY overkill. You can get something for a quarter of the price to do that job, plus last I looked an Intel chip is better for the built-in HW transcoding.

[@cmathieu]

@@hokayson6518very true but it will also be use as my work PC - I ended up getting the NUC 13 Pro i7 - very happy with its performance both for Plex and the other stuff I use it for

[@AdjointGaming]

Why should s/one choose 780xtx instead of HX80g for gaming (without adding Oculink) ? (other than the size). Prices in amazon Germany are almost identical.

[@obarthelemy]

Very interesting thank you . A few things: - I'm using a 3-monitor setup, gaming on the main one and playing a video on #2 and browsing on #3. The outputs are there, with integrated graphics can I assume there won't be any catastrophic performance degradation w/ that setup ? I'm only gaming on #1, at 1080p. - it would have been nice to have a comparision w/ TB4 or USB, to ascertain Oculink does make a difference ? Especially with a more realistic vidcard, nobody is using a 4090 that way, more plausibly a 4060 ? - Would an HX CPU be much better, or is HS 90% of the way there anyway ? - is there an easy way to undervolt + downclock when I'm not gaming ? I was hoping for a "quiet" setting besides "Balanced" and "Performance".

[@Techtablets]

Hi, so a 3 monitor set up will be fine, but the Ouclink port is so close to the HDMI port I had to slice a bit off my HMDI cable to make both fit at once. As for TB3/4 eGPU its not so noticeable at 4k but more at lower res the difference. The video was getting a bit long so TB3 eGPU Vs Oculink might have to come in anotehr video but I want to see how this video does. Right now KZbin is killing my Mini PCs really bad since I cover a lot of other topics. As for undervolting and downclock well maybe with Universal X86 Tuning Utility? AMD I've never been able to undervolt these APUs another reason I like Intel is undervolt and RAM tweaks work wonders. Also never been able to tweak the RAM with the AMD APUs. I'm seriously concidering giving up my loud dust magnet water cooled 13900K tower PC for one of these Mini PCs and eGPU. So I Might tweak this more. Also waiting on a 13900H Mini PC with DDR5 support and PCIe 4.0 x 2, this I belive will be the best eGPU Oculink set up for performance.

[@eraldorh]

Given that one of the m.2 drives is reserved for the oculink i would have hoped they would at least add a 3rd m.2 slot or provide a sata slot for 2.5inch sata ssds.

[@laska125]

First time I saw it. I was thinking that oculink out is already mounted and you have 2x m.2 ssd. so yeah shame to eat second slot

[@jaimee.campuzanot.2702]

Muchas gracias!

[@Techtablets]

De nada

[@dzibanart8521]

GREAT!

[@JaypegQ]

I had the opportunity to try out the new Steam Link app that just launched on the Meta store last night - Half Life: Alyx is now playable at what I consider an acceptable/playable framerate using the UM780 XTX, WITHOUT an external GPU! I haven't checked exact frame rates yet, but here is the test setup I used (note that I haven't had much time to do additional testing yet): UM780 XTX 64GB RAM BIOS Performance Mode (70 Watts) BIOS UMA Frame Buffer Size 16GB Wired USB-C connection Win11 Pro Meta Quest 3 72Hz Refresh Rate Low Graphics settings

[@VHyuro]

5600 MHz Ram right?

[@JaypegQ]

Yep

[@asan1050]

TechTablets , Thanks Much !.......

[@Techtablets]

Thanks again for watching!!

[@TheFrenchy82]

NIce video. ONly trouble : it looks like a geek's configuration with all those cables and electric power.. I must an old schmuck : I like clean PC. But it's really impressive. One day, one day.. Mini PCs will rule the world !!

[@Techtablets]

I can place the PSU in a rack under my desk now which hides it completely so it's just the tiny PC, huge RTX 4090 on my desk but looks a lot cleaner. It was messy for this video to show it all and what is required. But yes Mini PC's will rule soon enough I've always thought they would get there they have. I'm just waiting for a 13980HX Mini PC with Oculink whic hI'm sure is coming next year. Then and I'm ditching my watercooled tower PC, or jsut run with this UM780 XTX I'm so impressive with it. I love I can unplug the GPU and move this PC about or travel with it with ease.

[@TheFrenchy82]

@@Techtablets Yes , time of the huge towers is gone... it's good.

[@bacphan7582]

13:26 i think the main factor of low score is oculink. They are basically pcie gen 4 x4, while in your desktop the rtx4090 can enjoy the pcie 4 x16 bandwidth

[@Techtablets]

Yes of course it's bandwidth limited and CPU bottleneck maybe at 4k heavy games. But my desktop gets 37k GPU score in timespy so this getting 32k (my best now is 35k almost) it's not bad at all. Much better than thunderbolt egpus.

[@itsmomanyii]

Thank you for this review. I’m a big fan from Kenya. I’m in the market for a MiniPC and would love to hear your thoughts on how this compares with Beelink’s GTR 7 PRO or Minisforum’s UM790 PRO. I’m completely conflicted. Would be using this for work, and light gaming. I’m keen on future proofing my tech as well.

[@Techtablets]

This so far is the better of those models. The UM790 Pro is also good but I find this has better thermals as performance wise they are about the same.

[@bitgamerx9574]

Nice review. Does the A\C adapter support both 100V and 240V?

[@Techtablets]

Yes it does, i'm reading 100v-240v on the adapter.

[@anubis3647]

This video is great! There's not much content talking about this. Can you make a video comparing this setup to a desktop 4090?

[@Techtablets]

Bit hard I sold my desktop to just use these mini PCs with eGPU set ups.

[@hunson_picks]

Thanks for your review. The only thing I was missing is a WiFi and bluetooth test since the UM790 Pro had some serious issues with this. In your disassembly you can see the new orientation of the antennas, but how is the performance? Did it fix the issues?

[@Techtablets]

So far it seems fine for me but my router is very powerful and not far from my studio and filming location. What I am having issues is Wifi 6E is not showing but I didn't mention this as I not sure if it's my router which is funny with some Wifi 6E cards.

[@naitcalo2141]

I have this mini PC for over a week now and despite it is a great mini PC I ended up return it because poor and unreliable wifi. Basically it has the same problems like um790pro, the wifi car is good intel ax210 but problem is with the antennas and metal housing. The whole unit makes efect like faraday cage so signal is just poor and unreliable thus not being able to pick wifi 6E network. Other than that is a great mini PC

[@xy10000]

Hey Chris, thanks for the great review. Please answer me, how does this device compare to HX100G in terms of thermals and noise ? Thank you, que te vaya bien 😊.

[@kunalshah1581]

I really appreciated your video and it helped me purchase this little guy. It's amazing and everything I was hoping for. Thank you. Out of curiosity, did you get the Nvidia error 43 issue when you hooked up your GPU? Or is that something that doesn't happen to newer gen gpus?

[@Techtablets]

Yes I got that issue google error 43 fix on eGPU forums and that will fix it.

[@kunalshah1581]

@@Techtablets That sounds great! Thank you for info!

[@brokengames9020]

Great review. Seems like a decent mini pc. But out reachable.

[@Techtablets]

It is very good this one.

[@brokengames9020]

Also does it support linux?@@Techtablets

[@superghetto420]

@@brokengames9020 yes it does he mentions it later on in this video

[@jackipiegg]

17:16 Have you tried chimeraos and an amd gpu? Would be great to have a steam deck home console using this.

[@Techtablets]

Not on this no.

[@danlen28]

Can't wait for the updated version of this with thunderbolt 5 next year.

[@Techtablets]

Same here next year awesome once we get TB5 mini PC's and TB5 eGPU's it's going to be great. Hopefully the 8000 series AMD APU with TB5 and that's me set. I'm done with huge tower PC's.

[@aaronsoldier]

I'm debating getting this but I'm curious if the RAM will be Crucial like yours is or they cheap out with some unknown brand, I might be better getting it barebones.

[@Techtablets]

Know they are normally good I bought some models for family and it was the same spec as my review unit. Kingston SSD, Crucial RAM.

[@cutesammie]

Thanks for the detailed review. Do you know when minisforum is going to release UM790XTX or are they skipping that one? Cheers

[@Techtablets]

No info on that one they might have 7940HS supply issues from AMD I did read something about it.

[@hvasya]

I think this great companion for GPD g1 external graphics card with rx7600m & oculink connector. It's small and have integrated psu.

[@Techtablets]

Yes it would work great with that, not my bulky non portable solution. Just using what I have on hand of course.

[@anon7931]

Spectacular review!! 😁 I just have one question, how much would be the maximum storage capacity supported in one of the M.2 SSD?? (it is to replace the 1 Tb SSD with a larger one and thus leave the other port free for an eGPU)

[@Techtablets]

Hi 8TB is the max.

[@mkunikow]

Great devcie. Missing info: power usage idle, noise idle.

[@Techtablets]

Yes and yes I'm sure there is always something missing.

[@saintsinister8597]

What adapter are you using to connect the Oculink dock to the mini pc ? USBC to DVI ?

[@ericjansen9042]

Any ideas on how to mak your own etching sheet logo...for those not keen on glowing tigers?

[@JaypegQ]

How well does VR work with this rig? Would like to see some benchmarks with a Quest 2 or 3 attached and playing Half Life: Alyx, or even Microsoft Flight Simulator to really push the boundaries of what's possible.

[@Techtablets]

I don't have any of those games sorry. And not buying them.

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

It's a amazing Mini Pc 🤩

[@Techtablets]

Sure is.

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

@@Techtablets i wish in this form factor, someday they will include GPU like RX7600M XT

[@Techtablets]

They will do it but in a slighty larger size liek a SFF PC we have seen from them in the likes of the HX99G.

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

@@Techtablets yeah, hope in the future GPU gets smaller, not like outlet AC size🤣😂

[@josephk6136]

Can you provide the link to the oculink dock and cable? I have a gpd win max 2 coming in next week and I have been trying to figure out a dock and cable for my 7900xtx because apparently a lot of setups out there struggle keeping high end cards in pcie 4x4 and end up reverting to pcie 3. Obviously your setup doesn't have that issue since it's pushing a 4090 so I would like to copy it if you would be so kind.

[@ooferrell]

What about the gpd g1 ?? It is a portable gpu with oculink

[@mythydamashii9978]

This thing is crazy! I wonder how much cheaper this is compared to desktop builds.

[@eternalsphere3676]

If anyone is the type who only buys a PC every 5 years or so, they'd be crazy to build their own desktop instead of choosing this. Only caveat is if they're buying a 4080 or anything more powerful than that in the future, then there's too much performance loss on Oculink. That's the only time they should DIY build.

[@MidoriOtoko]

question. if u set the v ram usage till 16 gigs, how much is the difference? assuming u have like 32 gigs of ram

[@pkpnyt4711]

Was this video re-released? I remember watching this already... or is it deja vu?

[@Techtablets]

It's the matrix messing with you! Yes I reposted it as the first video was killed off by YT.

[@robertbacklund4438]

I just bought one (02/08/2024)with 64GB's of ram on Amazon (US) for $899 there was a $180 coupon so the total was $719.00. The model with 32Gb of ram has a $150 discount coupon while the bare bones model is $479 without any discount. If you buy this one by the time you purchase ram, storage and a Windows 11 Pro OEM key you will spend more than just buying the ones with everything. I have one of Minis Forum's UM 690's and they use name brand ram and storage. I am going to use the older one as a car PC.

[@robertbacklund4438]

I recently purchased this mini PC and I am in the process of building an oculink eGPU. Do you have any idea what cable and 16x pci interface board?

[@aspuzling]

What is the performance difference when using occulink vs thunderbolt? It would be good to know when deciding whether to give up that m.2 slot.

[@tobiasmyllynen5999]

The Phawx has a great video covering the difference between TB and Oculink. Oculink is WAY better.

[@Techtablets]

With TB3 which I don't use now I got 27k in Timespy and this close to 36k my best run. Shadow of the Tomb raider 4k highest setting with 189fps average TB3 101 FPS so a huge difference a good 80 fps+ average with Oculink Vs TB3 in Tomb Raider.

[@superghetto420]

You mentioned being able to make your own LED card like the one with the tiger? How do you go about doing that?

[@Techtablets]

Minis forum will have delails on that I think. But clear plastic and black outline.

[@BR0KK85]

All we need now is a mini PC that can be powered by that EGPU powersupply via TB 4 I like single cable solutions (ok this would be a 2 cable solution but hey one less powersupply 😅

[@jonevansauthor]

Seems like a strange choice to not put in the 7940HS that's in their other high end one. Although I'd rather have the glowing Eye of the Tiger logo. I mean, errr... the Oculink connection. Yes, that. But seriously, it's promising that they're doing it for the future, and I hope some future variant of Oculink is faster and/or Asus make their XG Mobile a standard available for others (which I *think* is really just Oculink with a USB connection on top). Regardless, a future where I could realistically get a desktop graphics card, in it's own case, with little or no performance hit and whatever cooling solution I wanted, and the ability to plug it in to different devices as per my requirements.... would be amazing. I'm really hoping to get a Flow Z13 at some point to give me a work PC, tablet, and the option to have the eGPU should I need it. But err... if wishes were horses and their products are limited to mobile chips atm which is great for portability, massive downside for performance.

[@Techtablets]

I think they they went with the 7840HS is two reasons, mostly because of supply issues with AMD and two so they can later release a slightly more expensive UM790 XTX model :) Not too much of a fan of the Tiger logo I unplugged the LED cable. Yes same as myself I really like the idea of a smaller lower powered PC and when needed I plug in my RTX 4090 if I need the GPU power. I Love how quite this little unit is under normal loads.

[@jonevansauthor]

@@Techtablets Right, yes, that makes a lot of sense. If they can easily get the lower end chip, I suppose the most important bit for gamers is really that they can add a graphics card. The specific chip is probably not the bigger problem for them. I said elsewhere I'd feel forced to change the Windows startup sound to the opening bars of Eye of the Tiger. I think it'd get old quickly but is presumably designed to appear to kids. :D Clever that they can do it and you can potentially swap out your own design though. The future is bright :)

[@laska125]

another reason could be that it's power/efience is better for 7840 that it would be for 7940. And for gamers 7840 would be enough xD. But yeah it won't be strange to see 7940 xtx version

[@willcurry6964]

Could a external 2.5 SAS Drive be connected via the Oculink for very large storage (15.6 Tb) and high speed?

[@Techtablets]

If you have an Oculink dock that can do than then use. You get the 63gbps max.

[@heirtothethrone000]

I like some of these small PCs but if the built in graphics aren't good enough to play games without oculink it's not worth it to me. I was thinking about getting the MinisForum HN2673 but I really can't wait for Ryzen to drop their new G series CPUs next year.

[@Techtablets]

Well if you watch the video gaming at 1080p is fine, the game I tested are really demanding. Older titles run really well.

[@delpinsky]

Clearly it's kind of a Frankentein MiniPC, a style exercise so to speak, if you connect an external GPU and an external PSU 😅 But hey, powerful, it's powerful! Well done Chris.

[@Techtablets]

Pretty much! Ugly with the eGPU I showed but just buy itself looks great.

[@user-jm9sv3yi8g]

I hope there will be better egpu doc equipped with oculink connectors, but none on the market are complete yet.

[@Techtablets]

I hope so too. But for now some rough looking ones that are cheap that do the job.

[@recklessbandito]

What product is the m.2 oculink adapter used in the video?

[@ffcc4974]

Yea i wonder olso this neeed link

[@giutarmanjosh]

Good review, but I would rather see more game benchmarks with the eGPU rather than seeing any at all with an external GPU. Is the Oculink something that is new and that is why it is also being tested?

[@timpoulsen4363]

I'm glad the tiger logo is optional ;)

[@Techtablets]

Same you can also unplug the cable to the LEDs to turn it off forever!

[@Picapalito]

Which is best option: UM780XTX or UM790Pro ? Thx !

[@hermanthotan]

When you set the iGPU 16G, is there any improvement in Gaming as well the Media Export?

[@Techtablets]

Been testing that not by much, you need 64GB of RAM to set 16GB it seems. As with 32GB it didn't work. Honestly it's not worth it for a few more FPS average.

[@c01nd01r]

Minisforum EliteMini B550 with GPU-dock also was good

[@Techtablets]

Yes that was a great unit, I really want to see them make that with 13th Gen Intel or Ryzen 7XX0HX

[@ritawang8979]

Hello sir, I have bought this UM780XTX and also have a 4070 graphics card, but I don’t know how to choose the Oculink dock. I wonder if there are compatibility issues such as interfaces. Can you recommend one to me?

[@user-nu1dp4el6h]

Hello, I ordered a 0:02 barebone UM780 XTX. I plan buying this RAM: Kingston Fury Impact PnP 32GB (2x16GB) 5600MT/S DDR5 CL40 SODIMM. Do you think it is a good option in regards to thermals for this Minipc? For storage I plan buying a 2 Teras single SSD unit. Still have not decided the model. Specs of the UM780 XTX indicate: SSD M.2 2280 PCIe4.0 Would a two-sided SSD unit fit in this Minipc model? Any recommendation about SSD considering the thermal constrinctions of a Minipc? Better one-side or two-sided (if the latter would fit)? Should not get a top-speed SSD to avoid overheating? I want 2 Teras in a single SSD unit because plan using the ocu-link port... Thank you!

[@nikitaluger]

"I got really excited about the Oculink support until I saw that you have to sacrifice one M.2 slot for it. Almost a viable upgrade from the Elitemini B550, where I assumed it only sacrifices the 2.5" SSD."

[@Techtablets]

Yes you have two give up on M.2 for it sadly. I hope they can add it to other models with without having to do this.

[@JaypegQ]

Get a 4TB SSD, clone the 1TB SSD over to it using the secondary m.2 slot, switch the SSDs around afterward to use the 4TB as primary, then the secondary m.2 slot can be used for OcuLink with plenty of storage space available. Afterward use the original 1TB SSD for storage expansion on a PS5 or other computer, or extra storage for the UM780 XTX using one of the external USB-C ports it has attached to a dock/adapter that has an m.2 slot.

[@redscorpion9325]

Do you have the link to where you bought the OcCulink Chip or board add more Graphics boost?

[@Techtablets]

Amazon just search eGPU Oculink and you'll find a few venders that sell what I used.

[@daveandrews6384]

How did you get windows to use the rtx eGPU? What drivers are you using for rtx4090? I'm struggling with my set-up!

[@Techtablets]

Do you have an error like error 43? Google error 43 egpu fix. But I used the latest desktop drivers.

[@CertifiedGreatDeal]

Can you still run an eGPU via the USB4 ports? If so, does the ports support resize bar?

[@_JustBeingCasual]

How about making a test with TB3, oculink and Native pcie for comparison. We don't know how much faster Oculink is over TB3.

[@billyvalero2130]

I'd Say that what's holding it back is the oculink, it's just 1/4 of the pcie lines

[@Techtablets]

Yes but it's still so much better than thunderbolt bolt egpus.

[@Berecutecu]

I may missed it but the oculink + eGPU only works on Windows or it works with Linux as well?

[@skatar01887]

Would like to know from where & what source you are stating that Oculink is getting 63 GBS, I can only find that it's 32 GBS with a Oculink cable. Thanks for the review

[@superghetto420]

I am guessing from his video and his results

[@Techtablets]

63Gbps bandwidth for oculink (max) and Thunderbolt 4 and USB 4.0 is 40Gbps max theoretical i'm talking about here, this is why those GPU scores are better than TB3. Wasn't included in the video but SoTR via TB3 eGPU RTX4090 4k highest setting got 108 Fps average, Oculink 189 FPS same exact test so huge difference. I might make a video on this. Oculink with PCIe 4.0 x 4 and if it's PCie 3.0 to Oculink then the result was 150 fps average.

[@skatar01887]

@@Techtablets Thanks for the info, BTW would you know where & how to get the manual for this item?

[@RyanEllerbe]

So you have to order the oculink separately or does it come with it and you have install it?

[@Techtablets]

It comes with only the m.2 to oculink port for the mini pc. The rest you need to supply

[@svettnabb]

No negative comment on the barrel connector for the PSU? USB Type C would be tons better.

[@Techtablets]

Well both type-C's support PD 100W and I would rather the barrel plug than loosing one type-C to powering it!

[@SvenHeidemann-uo2yl]

I feel the need to mention that it is Not the cpu bottlenecking the gpu in timespy score, it is the m. 2 Port (4x pcie is the max)

[@fromabove422]

Anyway to get better results with this thing

[@JamesJones-zt2yx]

Glad to know that it's possible to run Linux on it. Next question: how? I presume I need to turn off secure boot, but even after setting admin and user passwords, it won't let me choose to turn Secure Boot off. I note that I have BIOS version 1.04.

[@hidden_name7469]

Does this include the oculink connector? Or you had to buy it and the cable?

[@Techtablets]

I bought the oculink cable and pcie mount separately.

[@hidden_name7469]

@@Techtablets do you have any links? I would like to do a similar set-up. Great video!

[@hidden_name7469]

To be clear I mean the PCIe to oculink for the actual UM 780

[@hidden_name7469]

Any chance you could share a picture of your setup? How are you holding the card since it's super heavy. Thanks!

[@txwt5109]

Is there any difference in speed with M.2 gen 4 vs OCuLink?

[@yissnakklives8866]

can you increase the memory speed t0 6000MT? The 690S allowed up to DDR5 6000MT

[@newr90]

Does somebody know if the egpu via oculink is hotpluggable? Like to use it to Save some power by only enabling it when needed.

[@ivanlee2896]

Hi, is this much better compared to 790 pro? Anybody able to help on this? I placed order for 790 pro, but it's out of stock and they're offering me 780xtx in exchange. Either i accept the offer or request for a refund. Need help from any expert please, thank you.

[@Techtablets]

Slightly different layout of the ports the 790 Pro has both USB 4.0 at the front and only 1 2.5G LAN port this has two. This mode has Oculink adapter included for eGPU's if you're into that. Thermals I found this unit to be better and the power limit is higher. Overall this having tested both I think is the better of the two despite on paper the 7940HS being slightly faster VS 7840HS.

[@en6ads]

Noob question here. Do you download AMD drivers from AMD directly, or do you need to download from Minisforum? If the latter, would the device AMD drivers no longer be updated if the company goes out of business? Thank you.

[@Techtablets]

Nope, just get them straight from AMD.

[@freedomisdead9638]

I wish you could have spend more time describing your egpu dock with spec, was it a PCIE 4.0 X4 or PCIE 3.0, How much performance is lost compare to a desktop Test? All these questions are left with no answers and it s a shame. What are the best egpu options to get the most out of high ends GPU?

[@ciprianiacob100]

hi! is there space to install ssd with its own heatsink? thinking about samsung 990 pro heatsink. thanks

[@Techtablets]

No as that plate goes on top of the SSDs, unless you remove it then use your own.

[@Akakakakak353]

What is the um780 xtx's 780m igpu maximum TGP??

[@prfrag]

can you add a link for that egpu adapter??

[@chiboreache]

would be great to see losses in % vs desktop setup

[@mmdragon3722]

Can anyone tell me what the difference in cooling is between the PRO and the XTX? After removing the case, the cooling looks the same. The manufacturer promised improved cooling in the XTX. What exactly is the network card there? Does the case on the other side also open?

[@Techtablets]

Network card is covered in the video the Killer 1675X (Wifi 6E) This has better thermals. My 790UM review is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXbEqp6rea-FhbM for more info.

[@mmdragon3722]

@@Techtablets Thank you. I have been watching your review of the Minisforum UM790 Pro. But I was referring to the XTX, which is structurally a bit different from the Pro. That's why I'm asking you if on the other side the case can also be opened. You say that the thermals on the XTX have improved, but physically I don't see any change in the heatsink and fans.

[@julianfp1952]

@@mmdragon3722It is a taller case I think with pretty much the whole of the left and right sides being air grills so maybe with the extra air vent area on this vs the UM790 those same fans see less back pressure so can produce higher airflow?

[@mmdragon3722]

@@julianfp1952 Thanks

[@WishinIwasFishin1]

I just saw they're coming out with a HX200G with a 7600m XT. But like some of their other popular models, they'll be so woefully underproduced that it'll drive the price past upper mid tier gaming laptops.

[@gregz83]

Can you confirm if the unit HDMI 2.1 is TDMS or FRL? Can it do 4K @ 120Hz over HDMI?

[@Techtablets]

I get 4k120hz no problem

[@timsenecal1727]

what are the physical dimensions? NO-ONE is posting what its HxWxD are.

[@Techtablets]

12.5 x 13 x 6.4cm high. It's defiantly mini.

[@vesper8]

What's the reasoning behind having two ethernet ports instead of just one?

[@Techtablets]

Router or server use. I would rather have two more USB 3.2 ports and just the one ethernet.