Minister Lawrence Wong answers questions on race, racism in Singapore | Full Q&A

Following his keynote speech at the IPS-RSIS Forum on Race and Racism in Singapore on Friday (Jun 25), Minister Lawrence Wong answered questions on topics like having a minority prime minister, the Ethnic Integration Policy for housing and the Chinese-Malay-Indian-Others (CMIO) model of categorisation.
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[@mikebrown354]

As a Singaporean Indian.. I think he would make a fine PM.

[@gha9543]

He will be the worst PM for singapore when he support cultural and religious bigotry.Remember Singapore is a red dot in culture and religious self determination . Learn from ur past but pls do not live in the past.

[@ConradSNIPER]

There are better one - like me 😀

[@ceciliang8827]

Minister Wong's replies to each question is clear and sharp. No beating about the bush.

[@muhammadzahir946]

Have to give credit to him for answering the questions to the point instead of beating around the bush

[@georgequek7996]

It's a good start for Majulah Singapura.👍

[@travel360love]

👍. He is a smart and capable minister..

[@zenweaver]

Dodgy to me.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

What talking u? Disastrous covid policies? U live in a cave with no gadget to read the world news?

[@ConradSNIPER]

You sure you'd discerned correctly?

[@maureenkam9212]

Our children have no problem intermingling with children of other race. It’s the adults. Let’s stay as pure as children and embrace other culture. The least we can do is to give each other that respectable space.

[@maureenkam9212]

@Daniel Lim I begged to defer as my daughter's best friend is a Malay.

[@angkaien704]

@@maureenkam9212 well thats actually not the case for the majority

[@maureenkam9212]

@@angkaien704 Unless you have statistics to prove what you said is true.

[@maureenkam9212]

@@vijay20 I am sad to hear because I have come across Chinese adopted by a Indian family. My daughter's best friend in primary school is an Indian from India but was adopted by a Sri Lankan father and a Singaporean Chinese mother. That never stopped their friendship. Her mother has also become my friend. 😊

[@maureenkam9212]

Have you heard of Paranakan Indians? They are the minority born in Singapore with Indian, Chinese and Malay blood. So, how do you categorise them? They would simply like to be called "Singaporean".

[@gparamaeswary7276]

Really! l am a 65yr old Singaporean from an indian ethnic group. My friends and teachers not once ever made any racists comments then. It is different now.... I have heard of even teachers having made such comments now. I think the population is not comfortable with certain minority groupe being very well to do.... This is my opinion. Though it is a small groupe of people who are racists. Such people should be brought to task.

[@stank7661]

Like Indians are not racist to non Indians. I have seen a lot of Indians being very rude and discriminatory toward the Chinese and Malays but especially toward the Chinese. You need to undestand that Singapore is a nice country now because mostly of the ideas from the people of majority there: the Chinese. Most employers and most customers are of ethnic Chinese. If you don't get a long with the people of Chinese ethnic group, then you cannot happily live in Singapore.

[@stank7661]

@Daniel Lim That's rude to say that to people. Both Chinese and Indians are not native to Singapore as in not the indigenous people of Singapore no matter how long their families have been there for. Like I said, everyone should treat and talk to others like they do to their own race people.

[@zenweaver]

@@stank7661 Its chinese many times bad to indians and malays.Now most employers are big MNC companies so its fair system.Now in Singapore no have special privilege so you no happy.You want all good job go to you.too bad.Now its fair equal system

[@gparamaeswary7276]

@Daniel Lim My mom was born here. This is my country l am not going any where. I love Singapore. Only the malays are native to this country and they have treated us very well and not told us to go back china or india. My husbands best friends were chinese and my daughters best friend in Singapore is a chinese and my sons girlfriend is chinese. Only racist people should be brought to task regardless of race.

[@laopang91362]

Please stay away from US politics... in short, US is not setting a good example.

[@gha9543]

GOP has throw Trump under the bus.

[@joshuanaidu5455]

Due to the complexity of the situations; one which we must tread carefully, I really do appreciate Minister Lawrence's answers to the questions brought up, and we as Singaporean must continue to work towards racial harmony. And never take this for granted.

[@NewmaticKe]

Agreed, really complex. Some people who seemingly champion anti racism are stirring up sentiments, they do not have the impartiality of LKY

[@limlisa]

@@soreeyez don't agree.

[@zenweaver]

@@NewmaticKe Most thinking people are aware that LKY expressed racists views.We should discount them.Its not complex actually to most people.

[@wiraarjuna899]

Bravo..

[@TK-tw7hi]

Minister Wong , appreciate your logical insights and rational views..and Singaporeans must be thankful to have such leaders ..

[@ConradSNIPER]

I hope you'd discern his elaboration correctly.

[@wenceslauslauzar4865]

Sorry but you are very straight with your answers this is the type of leader Singapore needs you will have my vote.

[@wannaberedneckprepper7030]

Seriously, take away that race (origins) and only focus on the country Singapore. Don’t be so racist that race must be remembered or honored. Like Ivy said… she is a tiger, half Indian, half Chinese 100% Singaporean. 🙈🙉🙊 🇸🇬💪👍👍👍👍

[@simaikhaw]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoi7hICVrdSFm8k

[@peien]

Regardless of race, we are still Singaporean

[@stank7661]

Also racism is usually a result of bad experiences with others. The experiences will always be remembered and be projected to those ethnic group of people who upset them for a long term. So treat and talk to others like how you treat and talk to people of your own race. The issues are made worse by the effects of covid19 whether it is employment (lost job), income, business owners (siginificant reduce in intake or even bankrupt), social distance, the wear of masks everyday, the closing of educational institution, inability to travel overseas, cannot meet loved ones, cannot meet families overseas, etc.

[@simaikhaw]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoi7hICVrdSFm8k

[@ConradSNIPER]

You are quite confused. Better for you to avoid such High-Level of Academics Symposium. Maybe 5 years later - Good Luck

[@thegametaka]

That finance minister is very charismatic politician and very careful with word he say. People start to be fan of him for sure.

[@ConradSNIPER]

HelloooO.... When you address public or talk to strangers, care & discretion is always needed. Unless you go back home & talk to your Mom & Pop, you can anyhow speak also okay.

[@matthewmann8969]

Yeah The Chinese are very privileged and high rented and rated and ranked and settled usually

[@appl2597]

Singapore society is slowly but surely tearing itself apart and that is so sad to see.... We have allowed anonymous voices on the Internet take over the conversation and discussion. What we should be doing is have more public forums and open discussions. This Q&A is a good start.

[@gha9543]

Singaporean are now more divided by wealth and education. This is why there r more racial and religious prejudice in Singapore between races and within each race. Metritocracy has establish a class divide in singapore in educations, jobs and aspirations.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

I think u r so wrong. More like the incapable ppl complaining and blaming others more capable and richer than them. Also more like the incapable ppl trying to divide themselves with the capable. Blame meritocracy why not reflect on oneself and how to improve oneself?

[@ProLim580]

A few will drop by & have a few punches to others but don't get caught & they will go to jail.

[@eggplant240]

99% are our China cousins. They have 20 million people shaping public discourse toward Han superiority. 🇨🇳

[@ConradSNIPER]

👍 there is a certain debilitative going on around. Especially, when one wants to impose themselves on others.

[@jameslim6865]

Change is now or never. Minority communities must take this opportunity to demand real change. Everyone has the common interest to keep Singapore multi-racial. Racism must stop now. There must be real change in the power dynamics of Singapore's society and more representation by the marginalized minority groups.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Change what change ?? Can't understian you? Please do not anyhow lah okay?

[@ssuwandi3240]

When i was young and naive i used to think idealism like that. Now i am much older i really don't see why a pride of race alone would qualify into a heavy lifter position in the Government. The financial world has become more complex and resources become limited and therefore extra costly. A race or gender wouldn't help a leader to navigate for long term. Very naive childish outlooks

[@sivam1368]

Educational institutions,national service and and eip are important.At the end of day,its important to realise that we are all different,and we should embrace the diversity.Drop tolerance,practice RESPECT!Cheers✌🙏

[@ConradSNIPER]

Group 1 - Family ; this is where any kinds & way of life can be done privately. Group 2 - Friends ; there is complement among inorder for them to be together. Group 3 - Public ; all are strangers, discretion & a smile is more than enough. No need to be any anything.

[@ConradSNIPER]

You are already confused.

[@sttalk2500]

If one day a minority race were to become a prime minister, just to prove that Singapore is not a racism country, then it's not a correct mindset, we should think in the way that if that person have a high wisdom, honourable,honest and have the strong ability to lead Singapore to the better level, it does not matter what is the race of the person is. And racism should not be link to political or in decision making.

[@gha9543]

Who choose the PM when LHL retires.

[@gha9543]

If u vote for WP and when they win,singapore will have a minority PM

[@kaidestinyz]

I agree, bringing race into political is stupid. The best person for the job is what we should look for. Race should not even make the list for the factors for the best person for PM.

[@ConradSNIPER]

@@gha9543 SG must choose G Ha as our next leader - since you are so so curious 😂😂😂

[@rosleeabdulaziz7733]

Not at this moment or easy as minority to be PM.

[@yangtung5237]

Who is the interviewer. Please announce your name.?

[@nicoletan2452]

Ton of works on Minister Lawrence. I can feel his stress levels. 😅 Stay well and keep the great energy's everyone.

[@kaiserko6954]

Singaporean have many labeled “names”… the latest on the list is “racist”? Kiasu, kiasi, lazy and etc?

[@tanpingyi4771]

@@kaiserko6954 because it is true.

[@kaiserko6954]

@@tanpingyi4771 If it is true, what cause all this label? Are we born with it or is it inside our DNA? Or is it the school or parenting of Singaporean and Singapore? Think deeper… World leaders should not use “race cards” in their agenda and topics… it is too sensitive and dangerous? Has meritocracy failed Singapore?

[@kaiserko6954]

@Niko Lodeon Ministers talking this topic is a bit waste of time… perhaps it should go back to the drawings board again, like our old guards of Singapore. Talk about it does not make it go away… Let’s start again from The school and parenting? Should not send a wrong signal, might think it is protecting Certain Race? should we mix blood and encourage interracial relationship and marriage to produce a new Race of Singaporean of our own?

[@ConradSNIPER]

Nicole, do not be UNNECESSARILY confuse.

[@jummaatakarim442]

I will Agree with minister Wong on the EIP policy.But why is the PR and New Citizen Status where given to more Majority Races than Minority Races and Why do the New Citizen Get to buy with fully subsidise BTO and Old Citizen Buy BTO Flat and must Pay Levy of $40k or $50k .This is not fair to a minority and Merdeka Generation people.

[@h.m6573]

Minster Lawrence Wong good job 👍👍👍👍👍

[@stank7661]

As you see, even among races within the Asia continent (such as Chinese, Malays, Indians), they don't get along. Imagine living in a country like USA etc where there are people from every single country on Earth. The racial problems there. If someone talks to someone else of another race for example, Chinese to Indian or Chinese to Malay, Malay to Indian, Indian to non-Indians, please be kind and treat others like how you treat people of your own race cause if he or she doesn't, the other one will remember the moments and treats all of the others' race groups very bad because of the bad experience he or she has had with that person who upset him or her. And when you see people of different races on the streets etc, don't do anything that upset the people of different races. Cause you will be remembered and you and the people that look like you such as your race will experience the consequences for a long term. But Lawrence is right; the racial problems are currently on the rise in Singapore and I think in many countries in the world cause I live in Australia and it's also on the rise here. I think one of the main root problems is Covid19 effects: Finance, Jobs, Security, Social Well Being, Vacation, etc. Lockdown happened many times, no international travels, job places closed down, distancing, people cannot meet their loved ones overseas, people lost jobs, people have to wear masks everywhere, schools and univetrsities closed down, general happiness is affected at a massive scale. And we don't know yet when international travel will open. People around the world are still getting vaccinated. The vaccine itself is not a silver bullet to destroy the virus though it provides some kind of defence.

[@ongernie7216]

When making a view on race please own yourself up to review your race and nationality. Don't simulate a race and nationality to have your view to complicate the racial issue that got messy already..

[@samuelwong1596]

Throughout history, ego, pride, hunger, wealth, death, disease, panic, selfishness, panic and fear of the unknown has caused chaos and divided mankind.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Are you running a High fever. Just because your Brain can imagine...you just imagine something & wrtie out one regards to your personal Feeling. 😂😂😂 Feelings, what a Feelings 😂😂

[@ConradSNIPER]

You are not only confused - but, are conceptualizing concept blindly.

[@rosemawaty4586]

Iam strongly said alwys tht he cn be a PM as my heart hv a confident to him God.Bless.U

[@bmwminicooper]

Moderator is doing a great job here. Clear coherent questions and good control overall. We appreciate that.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Really, i can only hoped that you are clear & not confused.

[@fifibeal9745]

As a Singaporean who had been living in United States for more than half decade, I have to give kudos to Singaporean. At the very least, they will admit that they r racist and will tell you their reasons. No right or wrong but that’s their experience. In United States, the Americans will argue with you in at whatever expense to prove that they r not racist... lol

[@ktan8]

As some of them in the US say, "Race does not exists". I was like what?? And I showed them my pink IC.

[@Magnatec_tank]

@@ktan8 race does not exist - it is a product of the colonial period. A social construct, really. Prior to the 1600s, people referred to each other by geography and place of origin. The concept of race came about through the campaigns of colonial eugenics and ‘scientific racism’ in order to elevate Europeans and subjugate others. So, the American in question is right. Singapore has bought into the colonial paradigm by classifying its citizens as so. I mean, there is so much scholarship and research on this.

[@fifibeal9745]

@@Magnatec_tank Yet they are so defensive. To understand the reality is to admit there are such issues exist so that we know how to move on and move forward to get to the preferable place.

[@Magnatec_tank]

@@fifibeal9745 you mean to understand the reality of race as a construct? I don’t quite understand everything you are saying.

[@fifibeal9745]

@@Magnatec_tank meaning all reality and labeling are due to our mind of which it’s influence is from the society

[@jessiejames7492]

FROM THE MAN HIMSELF. STILL holds true: Lee Kuan Yew on Living with "Fundamental and Primordial" Racial Differences - KZbin.

[@eggplant240]

I really like him. He's a calming force in difficult times.

[@eggplant240]

He's such an amazing speaker. It's really incredible

[@ConradSNIPER]

You have yet to see the better and the best.

[@eddymohd5282]

With all due respect Sir DP Minister Lawrence Wong. Thank you For Sharing This Video With Is All. Deeply Appreciates It. Dated: 4th 4:04 May 2023. 25th June 2021 That This video was updated upload and shown. It's Approximately 2yrs ago. Amazing. #StrongerTogather #StayUnited Regardless Of Race Language Or Religion. #love #hope #faith #peace #harmony #respect... #understand #careandconcern😮

[@veganath]

Wow! Minister Lawrence Wong was truly insightful on such a sensitive topic, nothing but respect, thank you Minister. It seems to me that if we humans & our light of consciousness are to survive into the future *_we will need a society that is immune to subjective offense taking by the spoken word_* with the exception as provisioned under the law where speech threatens or incites violence. Offense taking as is the case for attempted offense giving is a learned behaviour and stems from a lack of nurturing by societies of values such as love, empathy, kindness & compassion. Please hear me out... I did volunteer work at a mental health institute(I highly recommend it & no I wasn't institutionalized although my wife thinks I should be...lol....joke;) and sometimes the residents would curse me out call me a bastard, my mother a prostitute...etc all kinds of things, you get the idea, did I get upset feel offended NO, of course not, why, *_because these people were mentally ill what they needed from me was compassion, kindness & love, so this is how we should see ALL the world's people, knowing that the kind of mind they have to live with 24/7 must be so intolerable, I really felt sorry for these people._* We should also recognize that people who attempt giving offense are not contributing anything of value and it should be actively discouraged or at the very least with herd immunity be ignored. The real value of any communication is in offering feasible solutions to problems, solutions steeped in the best methodology we humans have at our disposal science, science for human concern.

[@wenyicvs]

Why not ask him about Chinese infiltration of Singapore?

[@kiaarayeona9904]

Exactly

[@glammum3395]

what about foreigners being racist towards singaporeans?

[@gha9543]

What did they say that is racist? I know Singapore Chinese being racist to PRC

[@glammum3395]

@@gha9543 thats true. you prc pls go home to china. we dont want you

[@wutuckwai8466]

Understanding and forgiveness.

[@haidendin3271]

"Whoever governs Singapore must have that iron in him. Or give it up. This is not a game of cards! This is your life and mine! I've spent a whole lifetime building this and as long as I'm in charge, nobody is going to knock it down."- Lee Kuan Yew

[@vincecarlo]

Sadly Dead n Gone

[@TheSunPrince]

Sorely missed

[@TeleeFONE]

The bearer of racist policies.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Are you Mr Confusion Din ?

[@stank7661]

On the other hand, I have seen Minister Wong frequently on television and also on youtube, too lately addressing all kinds of issues like covid19, travelling and tourism, racism issues, etc. Maybe he is on his way to become to the next PM after Lee Hsien Loong.

[@veganath]

He has my respect & support a worthy future PM

[@2bystander2]

he comes across as genuine and convicted in caring for Singapore + Singaporeans as compared to the other 2 front runners (CCS + OYK)

[@marcuswong6263]

I fully agree that he has the calibre to be the next PM.

[@zenweaver]

ya he is chinese should be ok

[@annoyingtroll8117]

I would support him to be the next pm

[@kalakhan8118]

What we were told the no Malay can be airforce fighter pilots in Singapore. Also no Malay can hold the rank of Major or above in the army. No important government post such as top ministers should be given to Malays. Are these true?

[@kalakhan8118]

@Boy Umarull In Malaysia and Indonesia, they have Chinese fighter pilots. Finance minister, a Chinese. Head of Pertimina, a Chinese. Both countries have Chinese Army Generals and important positions in the cabinets, even though their names are Indonesians.l

[@kalakhan8118]

Persecution and discrimination because of siege mentality or just pure racist mentality.

[@kalakhan8118]

@Boy Umarull like " you are a racist for marrying a Chinese girl, marry your own race"

[@jummaatakarim442]

But recently 2 is promoted to leftenan colonel and a major thats sound good .Everytime someone the issue than there is somebody will be promoted

[@kalakhan8118]

@@jummaatakarim442 maybe I have pricked their racist consciousness.

[@tokking7836]

For a long time, we didn’t have racial issues. But the increase of RADICALISATION has caused mutual suspicion, which is UNHEALTHY.. As a Singaporean, I choose to be COLOUR BLIND, period! People can hurt people, and it doesn’t need to be SEEN as racial causes Yet, there are those who are blatantly racist, but it is NOT the majority. So let’s NOT allow things like race, religion, sexual orientation and all the special interest ISSUES to be USED to DIVIDE our society for purpose of SUBVERSION - ie. Divide and Conquer--- like it’s happening in America and other countries! We have to be UNITED and hold on to our VALUES, BELIEFS and SHARED HISTORY! Common Singaporeans, there are only 3 million of us in the whole universe! EVERY ONE is RARE, PRECIOUS and PRICELESS!

[@MsEverAfterings]

"For a long time, we didn’t have racial issues"; according to who? You? It's always there but conveniently ignored or have escaped some people.

[@limchyehock6722]

Who is the cameraman?

[@nexult5439]

It’s only called racism when select individuals/ groups don’t like the response that they get, because of their actions/behavior … People of honesty don’t need to waste their breath on addressing the issue of racism…

[@gha9543]

If singaporean wants a minority PM,they should vote for WP .

[@jjr2574]

@@gha9543 yay! Let's become like the US and vote based on our skin colour 🙄🙄 piss off

[@gha9543]

@@jjr2574 how do u define a minority?

[@doublecheeseburger22]

@@jjr2574 Cause clearly there wasnt an indian pm before. Race was an issue so stop living under a rock and grow up honey

[@HG-kn3hb]

Does the term 'Malay Muslim' discriminative and divisive? There is a minority of Malays who are not Muslims and Muslims who are not Malays. Do Mendaki, MUIS and Association of Muslim Professionals serve Malay Muslims only?

[@ConradSNIPER]

"term" ... are you okay ? 😂😂🐔💨

[@ConradSNIPER]

Mai confuse pls

[@HG-kn3hb]

@@ConradSNIPER Clarity. Why must there be a Minister for Muslims? How come no Minister for Hindus, Buddhists, Christian etc? Please answer if you so clear.

[@edmundkhor]

what is that IPS survey on minority race PM?

[@veganath]

*_"IPS survey"_* what is it, sorry?

[@steventan2267]

Very good performance. Like the ways Minister Lawrence handing of these issues. Cheers!

[@gha9543]

Social policies to enhance educations and skills have become Institutions(schools &IHL) for Excellence. In the pursiut of excellence we promote meritocracy as our manifesco for progress and equal opportunities. Equal opportunities based on meritocracy is why SG is enrich in heritages and cultures ie diverse talents and skills. Skills and business opportunities is our natural resources.

[@kingstowntan4599]

Dear PM Wong , are singaporeans allowed to freely ask about HDB tenure , will one be threathened with getting arrested for asking some relevant good reasonable questions ? Will pap continue to encourage inter racial relationship to make singapore into a nation of hybrid foreign alien mixed bastards generation , during LKY and GCT management , there are no ceca and very much lesser inter racial relationship compared to past 10 years during LHL management . What is you opinion in regard to the above question ?

[@alvinlim9977]

Well presented by Mr Lawrence. All of us needs to understand each other, be tolerant, be understanding and be open with all races. Let's not let the good work and good systems failed with these exceptions. Let's not feel threatened by the races during these times as we all faces tough time and lets hold hands and weather the storm together instead

[@ConradSNIPER]

It's Harmony & Friendliness - Not tolerant yet. Are you still confused?

[@AT-pi5to]

Singapore is connected to the world. We have many foreigners in Singapore. Conflicts between countries of different races leads to racism in Singapore. The solution is not to agitate the majority, then racist incident can be reduced.

[@ssgoh4968]

Racism is inherent in all of us. It doesn’t matter if you are the minority or majority. Some of us are not very good in managing our racist behaviour unlike most of us who are able to do so. But as far as being racist, all are equally guilty. Can anyone honestly say he is not racist? That he doesn’t have an ounce or gram of racist tendencies in him? To those who are so eager to judge and throw stones, I say to you let’s not play “holier than thou" here. Who has a cure for racism? Nobody.

[@NewmaticKe]

I see your point. Thanls for putting it succinctly, could not have done better myself

[@crystalong3591]

Minsters Mr Lawrence wong welcome welldone good talk Amazingly incredibly😁 Thankfully 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@veekwok5611]

There is no way we can completely eradicate racism. It was prevalent long time ago and still exist today. We have came a long way in promoting racial harmony and I must agree with Minister Lawrence Wong that we are in a much better situation than say 50 to 60 years ago. Recent incidences were amplified because of the widespread use of social media. Having said that, the more we should not take racial harmony in our peaceful island for granted. We should love our brothers and sisters regardless of race or religion.

[@veganath]

For any *_multiracial_* society, *_multiculturalism_* shouldn't be the headline goal of government, what should be the goal of government is *unity of vision* for the future where *we don't encourage diversity of thought* for its own sake usually borne of culture, but instead we nurture *_'thinking correctly' i.e. thinking that is in line with the most successful methodology historically for arriving at solutions to problems, science._* Science is our last best hope to objectively resolve the many issues we all face today including racism, issues that if left unresolved may well be our species demise.

[@lr88xx]

Hmm, sort of.

[@teyhoonboon5853]

More brains are better than one brain, Singapore requires people regardless the race to unite as one nation to move forward as world class nation .

[@lr88xx]

Great idea! 💡💡💡

[@zenweaver]

Regarding comments on zaobao editorial he should not act blur.

[@gha9543]

Singapore was never meant to be a republic with no natural resources or hinter land. Singaporean cannot be political when it relies on goodwill and cooperations from other countries to progress in economic and trade. You cannot afford to be a political society when u rely on trade and economic cooperations with other countries to prospers and progress. Politics r for big nations with big populations. Racial and religious harmony promote singapore as a secure country with good economic and trade policies. Politics for the singaporean is progress ,education and harmony. Stop talking shop .

[@WINDYCHUNG]

I do not think Singaporeans should not be so sensitive on this issue, it is human nature that people always enjoy being with the same race or same ethnic group. But we should be always polite and nice to other races and different people without any discrimination. I am Chinese from the mainland, I have no idea why I feel uncomfortable when I see blacks, I know this is totally wrong, I obtained my Ph.D. from a top foreign university, I should not be so assole, my parents never meet blacks so they did not teach me anything about race. So I guess this is human nature's problem. I can control it, be nice and get along well with them, but I can not eliminate some feelings. Human is really bad in this sense.

[@rashminable]

Yes they are unfamiliar. But do you assume they are less than you? Less smart, less capable, less worthy of a job you might be interviewing for? When unfamiliarity leads to an individual of a different race being denied social opportunities, it becomes everyone else's problem that you are unfamiliar.

[@TheSunPrince]

There is no evidence that keke said or even infers they are any less. While so many make polarized stand for or against, all miss the point. keke's statement is very honest, well-balanced & from the bottom of one's heart because he acknowledges the possibility one might be uncomfortable with the unfamiliar, but also recognizes the fact that we are all human at the end of the day, all human lives are valuable & should be afforded the basic human respect. This is still much better than the racism you see in the west where non-whites are at best tolerated. If not, they are either harrased even by the authorities i.e police, assaulted or even killed & such violence are even institutional You shouldn't even be singling out the majority, or even the minorities. All have a part to play in mutual win-win understanding & the way forward would be to maintain regular dialogues so issues can be promptly discussed so joint win-win arrangements/agreements can be made. This will definitely be better than bottling up grievances to the point where it explodes & misunderstandings become violent. BTW, I have many friends from all races, had done national service with many of them, graduated with many of them & celebrate the festivities of many races. This is the product by which we are brought up in a society that consciously makes an effort to keep itself race blind as much as possible, having even the national anthem in bahasa & the recognized 4 languages representative of the ethnicities in Singapore, so no enthicities should be overly defensive over any racist remarks made etc. Many pioneer ancestors in Singapore here regardless of race lived through Japanese atrocities, lived through tough lives in a 3rd world environment & persevered through under lky's era to bring about better lives for successive generations. Singapore has come so far in this & racist foreigners who aren't Singaporeans or lack this contextual understanding should not & have no right to judge Singaporean society from only the filters of their own understanding. I'll simply like to end this by saying regardless of race, language or religion. Majullah Singapura. Malaysia boleh, Singapore juga boleh. Suffice to say, you can even call me an orang asli of Singapore.

[@WINDYCHUNG]

@@rashminable no, they can be smarter, more beautiful, embodied with a much better personality than me. But still, I deny them based on some superficial reasons, like color, race. I admitted this is bad. I think this kind of topic should be analyzed and discussed publicly, then we can find a way to solve this "human nature" problem instead of only pretending to be "politically correct" but hating inside their minds.

[@WINDYCHUNG]

@@TheSunPrince thank you, your discussion is really great. To be honest, I think Chinese people, including mainland Chinese and overseas Chinese, need some educations on racial issues. I once went to an academic conference in Singapore, and there are several Indonesian scholars there as well. During the dinner, I would like to sit with them, but my Chinese peers rejected it using a silent way. I definitely do not like this.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Racism is secondary. Conflict is primary. When 2 (or more) persons have a conflict, it's regarding the ONE thing leads to another. From the conflict, then, tribalism symptoms set in. These people in conflict will Race to establish a reason to greater defend their claims & further causing potent damage at the others - for example AGE GAP, RACISM, GENDERs...just about anything to enhance their Reasons & Purpose in inflicting damage & defending their claim. As these goes on & on, ill-perception is borned... even before any conflict, people will just perceive a certain ill-concept for no apparent reasons of their own. First & utmost, people should embrace & promote HARMONY & not CONFLICT. Then , racism, genders, age discrimination will CEASED. Harmony is itself a key ingredient to achieve success in E.I.P

[@eddymohd5282]

I Found It Constructive And Acceptance In This Talking Point Regarding Race And Racism In Singapore. It May Sound Simple But Sincerely Its Not Easy Especially When We Talk About It To Some, I Repeat To Some Who Seems To Be Quite Fanatic Or Too Extreme In Their Mindset regarding Race And Racism. When Comes In Contact About These Kind Of People, I think Its Better To Keep Quite Rather Than Having An Unpleasant Conversation Regarding Racism And Race. Conversation With An Open Mind And Flexibility Mindset Are Indeed Insightfull And Could Lead To A Better Understanding And Respect To Each Other. Finally The Bond Of Mutual Trust And Good Friendship Can Be Easily Established... #perspective and #views. 🤗🤗✌✌🙏🙏

[@budithibhanuraman143s7]

👍👍

[@branlow1]

Those unable to sell their houses due to the quota should be able to sell it back to hdb at market rates if that house is unable to be sold on the market by a set time limit

[@ssgoh4968]

Racism is inherent in all of us. It doesn’t matter if you are the minority or majority. Some of us are not very good in managing our racist behaviour unlike most of us who are able to do so. But as far as being racist, all are equally guilty. Can anyone honestly say he is not racist? That he doesn’t have an ounce or gram of racist tendencies in him? To those who are so eager to judge and throw stones, I say to you let’s not play “holier than thou" here. Who has a cure for racism? Nobody.

[@gha9543]

If singapore parliament is model on the UK westminister , PM are normally nominated by members of the ruling party as we witness Boris Johnnson was chosen to lead his party in a knock out system of 5 possible nominated party members.

[@yangtung5237]

, Minister Lawrence Wong, you are alright. Interviewer, please ask questions that reflect the views of the majority and minorities. You are having an agenda.

[@zenweaver]

What agenda? you want free jobs even if dont deserve or qualified?

[@yangtung5237]

@zenweaver Who needs a job? I am retired with no interest in political affairs except do not like 3rd legion trying to say wrong about Singapore. The interview is what political or activities agenda. You know or do not know, acting beholden to your master or agencies. @@zenweaver

[@yangtung5237]

@@zenweaver You are a reporter for a reputed news company. Questions you ask must be of intelligent and comprehensive opinion. Trying to act smart and bring down an untested minister with difficult questions is uncalled. Try it on LKY, and he would blow you to the ground.

[@arnielee8369]

what agenda he has? can you elaborate?

[@chenglokewee1462]

Regardless of race, language and religious, there are the good, the bad and the ugly people. Of course racism issues are all around the world, number is the only difference. To be frank, majority Singaporean are not as racist as what the reports mentioned. In facts, some Chinese are also being racist by the minorities group also, so if the majority Chinese are naive and stupid to become racist, than this society will not be as harmony until these far. Races hatred are arrogance, insidious and idiots. As a simple normal citizen, I can only do my part by bringing harmony and wishing for are races in Singapore to live peacefully together. To my personal view, the government has already done extremely well for the minorities groups Singaporean. But the government must not forget to concern the people from the majority group that also need support indeed. Harmony are much more precious than triumph. Please bare in mind that whatever good or bad things that person did, races was not the reason, the main issue was his characteristics.

[@wiraarjuna899]

We the citizen of Singapore,pledge ouself,as one united people,regardless of race language or religion . We build together ,we grow. If Not,we will b low.

[@htolas]

Why is the moderator not shown, making his voice a disembodied one?

[@kiaarayeona9904]

I think he is trying to protect himself from criticism I guess

[@0157matt]

Maybe provide a programme where young children could play together with other races in neighbourhood , schools or even in community centres ....providing multi racial environment to young children at play is a good way to promote racial harmony.

[@kiaarayeona9904]

It will be nice, if this programme of a thing can help shun racism,

[@ConradSNIPER]

You can suka suka 'maybe' this & 'maybe' that ... It's Endless.

[@vernonlam7840]

Minister Wong explained that the purpose of the EIP is to serve the nation's social engineering needs. At least the MND is willing to extend some flexibility to manage the difficulty of selling one's flat. It's not a perfect system. Wonder if there are policy wonks out there who can propose credible alternatives instead of merely proposing to do away with it.

[@arnielee8369]

He glossed over the issue... conveniently ignoring the inequality on the returns. EIP should stay but how the pricing / transaction system needs to change. Like what happened to MRT. Public goods should stay true to goals in public goos and services provision, aka stay equal (indifferent), affordable, flexible for all, not speculative investment. So removing the secondary resale market based on invisible hands (appreciation + COV) is the way to tackle it.

[@ConradSNIPER]

I'm sure you are the 1st - minister wong will give up on 📞😆

[@ConradSNIPER]

@@arnielee8369 ...hello, lee mai are ni confused leh.

[@diva555sg]

There are 3 types of activists. Focus group to address & gather views, troll (paid & ppl who oppose) & agitator to stir up trouble.

[@jchienghu]

This really shows Singapore is a very good country as the minister Lawrence Wong is not shame away to discuss racial issues incidents. It is unlike other countries like USA & China.👍👍👍

[@engsudatta276]

The root causes of a surge in racist feelings could be caused by policies, cultural differences, social circumstances and individual misunderstandings and prejudices. They have to be studied in depth and rectified. But the use of digital media to amplify the severity of a seemingly racist incident and to arouse further ill feelings among communities will.also be a matter of concern.

[@gha9543]

Newspaper that wrote about the government has been thrown out of singapore. If u say the wrong thing just once,u will be kick out of singapore. Why should a singaporean academic be above the law?

[@engsudatta276]

@@gha9543 Don't understand what you said? What has this to do with whether one can become a PM or not? In Singapore, to become a PM, he has to go through a democratic process, He or she must be elected into parliament and win the majority support of the parliament.

[@engsudatta276]

@@gha9543 Government had been thrown out? Sure? Is it in your dream?

[@gha9543]

@@engsudatta276 News editor or the Far eastern review?

[@csy897]

Using digital media itself would amplify whatever is being highlighted. I think it is not fair to say that it amplifies the severity of any incident since the feelings of the people involved are very real and very raw. I do, however, agree with Minister Lawrence that we need to be careful about it; Be ready to forgive and have the conversation on the basis of mutual trust. Perhaps what you meant was we shouldn't be quick to use social media to pass severe judgements on perpetrators.

[@alexong6646]

Same…..CeCa also prefer their own skin color for the jobs….right?

[@gha9543]

There r lots of important jobs held by Indians especially in banks ,Laws and financial services,MAS and SGX. Beware of the silent minority race doing the job of the majority race.

[@alexong6646]

@@gha9543 Our reserve in GIC and Temasek are also by majority CeCa too…..

[@gha9543]

@@alexong6646 It is the same in the UK especially in the NHS ,mayor of London . Chancellor of the exchequer,Home office..etc .Minority race in the UK r holding important government post to prevent Institutional racism? These Indians minorities hates China and communist . Why? It threatens nepotism and cronyism. Kamal Harris is the first minority VP of USA. Networking , cronyism and the stamina to compete and be awarded with accolades and recognitions. I believe they fall short in achievements compare to great inventors in history. Isaac Newton, Leonardo de Vinci , Michel Angelo..etc

[@ConradSNIPER]

Charity begins at home ... Nothing wrong. But, not appropriate.

[@htahtoo8851]

With just three main races living together, the problems are already quite a handful. Now, there are substantial mix of even more people of different races and ethnicity living and working here - PRC Chinese, Taiwanese, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Burmese, Indonesians, Filipinos, Indians, Vietnamese etc.....with some groups consisting up to 6% -10% of the citizen population in an island of only 728 square metres. The tiny island has become a multi - racial pressure pot after the govt modified the population policies.

[@gha9543]

U want economic growth and u want a labour intensive work force . Automations and robots is the answer to economic growth and reduce ur dependency on cheap migrant labour.

[@dennisfu82]

What about vaccine discrimination instead of racism. It will also divide Singapore n cause concern.

[@weirdshit]

Get that GRC racial requirement off. It is racial bias. We just need capable people to represent the area, not skin color.

[@NewmaticKe]

On the contrary, I think such equality needs to be engineered and will not naturally evolve

[@weirdshit]

@@NewmaticKe We need to vote for a president for the country similarly we need to vote for our representative politicians in for our area. If they are not comfortable with a person being that voice, they can dont vote for "it". If they are counting for a particular race as a politician/president to take care of their own skin, that would be racist in nature.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Yeah .... Get a skinless & hairless person to do it.

[@RajRaj-zx4rf]

Racial discrimination Is happening every where. People who are very educated are more racist always. We have to be very careful always

[@ConradSNIPER]

As long as people refrain from ; - not to be anyhow Judgemental - not to be anyhow Prejudice - not to be anyhow too imposing - not to be anyhow Big Headed 😂 - not to be anyhow itchy mouth - not to be anyhow Critical / troublesome - not to anyhow ANYHOW . ... Is it Nature that there is always a very few Donkey who will be so. ... Sure there is harmony.

[@philg4116]

The rise of philibuster head racism in Singapore is the greatest threat. This is when Han Chinese view Indians as all having philibuster heads, and treat them with that specific form of intolerance that leads to taunting and assaults.

[@paulineng6177]

With increasing mixtures of different races and nationalities in Spore, there is definitely higher incidents of racism especially in this covid climate. Education and social policy must continue to remind us to live harmoniously for Spore to survive and progress.

[@ConradSNIPER]

Have you eaten? Eat full full & still confused?

[@samuelwong1596]

We had a history of racial riots. Also had struggled for racial harmony where it finally got to where we were better in the 1980s and 1990s.. Back in the days, racial harmony was part of our childhood education in school, and focused on the importance of that too. (Speaking from personal experience of 1985 to 1996) However, as times had changed. Many beneficial morals had been lost.. Courtesy the lion, 好公民, the teachings of generousity, kindness, initiative, understanding, cleanliness can hardly be seen in the younger generations.. (These teachings and upbringing helped SG alot that we now can hardly hear of. Though someone tried to bring back courtesy the lion.. however.. sigh..) It has been becoming from bad to worst since 2009.. And it had been more obvious since 2019..

[@NewmaticKe]

This is an interesting point, thanks. Remember the Chinese import vs. the neighbour cooking curry.

[@samuelwong1596]

@@NewmaticKe Omg! Yes! Its like a repetition every 10 years! Those are just personal prefererences of likes and dislikes which could have easily been resolved by having mutual understanding to come out with an amicable solution instead of actions or words that may come across as offensive and hurting.

[@user-qp2cw3po4h]

I missed Courtesy the Lion

[@shirleytanbenglay7958]

Don't touch the HDB ethnic integration policy. It has achieved the desired good outcome. When any ethnic individuals bumps into a hurdle, this is level playing field as it can happen to any ethnic group at any time.

[@toquan084]

Remove all form of racism. Good racism and bad racism. Selective good racist policy by PAP government is good.

[@Kabilanalmond]

What is the desired “good” outcome in your point of view?

[@greatasia606]

We want Tharman to be the next PM, right?

[@emas88]

the last election speak for itself :D singaporean is ready for any race to be PM as long as that person does his job right!

[@gha9543]

@@emas88 do u get to choose a new PM when the present one retire?

[@limlisa]

No the IPS did not agree with you.

[@kaiserko6954]

The WP, Leader of opposition has the attributes to be a PM… btw, I am Chinese.

[@devilow170]

Frankly speaking racism has been going on for years but it was very subtle but as years progress it has become more visible as person who have experienced this for years it is nothing new to us minorities. I will guarantee not all are racist,my hubby is Chinese , my friends are from different races. What I have seen over the years is lack of understanding, unwilling to mix with other races , a kind of prejudice thoughts from older generation instilled into the younger generation , ignorant of others cultures, a mentality of superior race and lack of education of races among people.

[@lr88xx]

Correct! 👍🏻

[@ConradSNIPER]

You are surely Franklily very confused. Oh God please save D.Low

[@devilow170]

@@ConradSNIPER you sir have no idea what other races go through and believe me when say I know.

[@zenweaver]

At the end of the day, he has not addressed concerns of systemic unequal opportunity and privilege.

[@zenweaver]

At the question at 11.00 is he trying to justify something? if a superior in Govt who is a senior position express racist views for promotion how then? He should not be so ambiguous on why someone would express such views.

[@dailytravelclips612]

Good statements by mr. wong. but what i dont understand. the state of singapore is very discriminating. look at the differences in school or university fees. how much will pay sg citizen, PR, or work pass holders. there are big differences. but why??? in my home country germany its free for everybody. from the birth to pre kindergartens until universities. its free for everybody. no differences between citizens, pr or whoever. or another example. look to the differences in health care and pension. how much pension would get a singapore citizen after working 30 years compared to an spass holder worker after 30 years? differences, right? many countries in europe and specially in germany there are no differences. everybody pays into the same pension fund and get the same pension payments in old age. no differences between people and residence status in germany. mr. is speaking for equality but the state act so different.

[@lemongreensg]

Singapore is too small as compared to Germany I guess.

[@gha9543]

Social medias allows u to have ur say on any topics without prejudice. To do it offline is to remove the transparency and directions of such impromtu discussions. I think to steralised race and religious issues behind closed doors will prevent open and unsolicited views from the public. Please do not sanitise online forums just because it is too vulgar to read.

[@veganath]

*_"Please do not sanitise online forums just because it is too vulgar to read"_* being vulgar does not contribute value in communication and should be discouraged as it amounts to pixel pollution.

[@gha9543]

@@veganath SG swears every day before the internet. Why pretend to cast out bad habits when u see them everywhere in SG

[@veganath]

@@gha9543 there are no 'bad' words with the exception of of threats & incitement to violence, I hope you agree that such speech remain illegal. When it comes to swearing tell me what value it contributes, swearing isn't necessary in conveying knowledge & information with any improved efficiency if the goal of communication is to impart knowledge.

[@gha9543]

@@veganath Is SG sanitising verbal speech. I have notice no change at all. Soon SG will see no evil ,speak no evil ,hear no evil and hopefully do no evil. Gods paradise must be a delight for all those who live and work in SG.

[@veganath]

@@gha9543 I don't understand you grievance here did you want to elaborate?

[@MobileMobile-ev5ve]

Please be honest about race issues as it will be easier for people to exept the facts

[@dennislouis6069]

In this whole interview, other than solutions given in terms of various policies and systems to be put in place to address such concerns, it was very sad to see that even minsters in such high ranks have no clue about raising human consciousness. That was one word I was hoping I would hear and now I know the root of the issue. Problems can be of many forms and addressing them on a case to case basis will only lead to new versions of it. What needs to happen is a fundamental shift in human consciousness. There is a whole science about developing this to an amazing extent and I hope Singapore falls on the right path to achieve this in a beautiful way

[@NewmaticKe]

They do not have the level of understanding and impartiality as LKY

[@simroysten7963]

CMIO to the uninitiated sounds like a locally invented computer operating system. It simply means the local context of race as indicated in your NRIC (National Registration Identity Card) as in Chinese/Malay/Indian/Others (as in Eurasian, European, Arabs, Armenian etc.) Without such classification how are we to distinguish each and tailor policies accordingly. Would anybody like classifications of 1.LSC (light skin citizen), 2.MSC (Medium Skin Citizen), 3.DSC (Dark Skin Citizen) 4.OSC (Not oily skin but simply Others). OR we could be politically correct as per WEF/UN guidelines and classify as follows: 1. YSC (Yellow Skin Citizen) 2. BSC (Brown Skin Citizen) 3. BLSC (Black Skin Citizen) and 4. UNO (unknown origin). That should satisfy those whining citizens (young or inducted) who wants to forget their ancestors. This a comedy piece so do not take this seriously. And oh, why do sheep not hang around with goats and cows? Are they racist?

[@gha9543]

Structured racism and dialect group started as a population census to allow citizens to use their ID for schools and housing. PAP use this to allocate housings and schools because the demand is greater than the supply.

[@lr88xx]

Looolz 🤣🤣🤣

[@gohlayhoon5608]

I think race individual reliable religious depenal some related customer people who around important intend Lawrence Wong advice source strictly confidential Singapore

[@onnbhaialihusseingandhi2139]

This is Tanah Malayu why Chinese are majority.

[@zenweaver]

If he talk about GRCs having representation, then Lawrence should ask himself in the same vein on the representation in the govt for minorities. Many people in the govt have experienced racism even.he should introduce a kind of ethical policy or ethical hotline not managed by govt or even create a whistle blowing platform or else what he is saying is just hot air.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

He creates then ppl will link to the gov. Hahahaha. What a sohai suggestion. Hahaha

[@eugeneteo9664]

$$$$$ is the language of all race.love all serve all.

[@gohlayhoon5608]

We must guidelines comments regarding respected to other customer people but not stubborn tolerance allergy alcoholic not healthy.prime minister of Health ong yew communite better done well

[@jeevanachiappan7614]

Accept fact... All well...

[@jonharis1749]

The MOST difficult word to define... "being fair". What is fair? Is it fair to be fair? Or no such thing as being fair. Sadly, NOT EASY to be fair in a multi-racial country!!

[@jessiejames7492]

my supervisor once told me' there is no such thing as 'fair'

[@paulineng6177]

We are all not perfect, hence, it is unrealistic to expect true fairness or a perfect world to live in. More important is not to have a victim mentality that always blame society for any misfortune perceived.

[@burialsite6241]

I wish to cite how racial harmony works.. The Paramedic in-charge that attends to me is a kind Malay gentleman. Upon arrival at A & E, Chinese, Filipino, Malay nurses tookover and cared for me. A very caring Chinese Doctor then checked me. An experienced Specialist Doctor, an Indian conducted a successfull operation on me. All of them are colour blind. ALLAHUAKBAR!!! (God is Great). Races are created for us to know each other. Our differences brings strength. Just look at our 5 fingers. Each finger are different and bcos of this, we are able to clench and throw a punch. Imagine if all our fingers are similar. We cannot really do anything. No racism, pls.

[@sritharansri721]

வரும் காலங்களில் 8 மணி நேரம் போது மானாதக இருக்க வேண்டும் அதற்கு தகுந்தார் போல் சம்பள உயர்வு செய்யவேண்டும் இல்லை என்றால் சிங்கப்பூர் வேலைக்கு ஆபத்து ஏற்படும் அதற்கு தகுந்தார் போல் மாற்றம் வேண்டும்

[@clandestineclara9355]

Still not talking about anti malay sentiments and rhetoric in the SAF?

[@clandestineclara9355]

@@soreeyez been there since 5 decades if not more

[@clandestineclara9355]

@@soreeyez ahhhh ladies and gentlemen from the minority group have we not heard such rude and completely dismissive comment from ignorant bigots. When they are uncomfortable with hard facts they just say oh it's all in our heads. You have not read LKY biography have you? Or Michael D. Barr The Ruling Elite of Singapore

[@jjr2574]

@@clandestineclara9355 it's pretty clear that the person who replied to your comment hasn't served in the SAF before!

[@clandestineclara9355]

@@jjr2574 true that, might just be a foreign troll 🤣😂

[@jjr2574]

@@soreeyez just to give you some example! Malays, specially Muslims aren't actually selected to be in NSF special force units like Commando and NDU.. Ok I wouldn't say they are COMPLETELY banned! But they are of an EXTREMELY small number! When I say extremely small number, I m talking abt 1 from 3 or 4 batches of recruits! 1 batch contains about 250 enlistees.. You are telling me this doesn't have anything to do with race or religion?

[@lawrencechong7590]

In Malaysia itself, a Chinese or Indian can be the Prime Minister.It is guaranteed in the constitution.The supreme law of the country.He must command the confidence of the majority of the Members of Parliament.

[@TravelRealNew]

When will vaccination for foreigner b/w 12-39 start?

[@ibatawi]

Between 1965 till CeCA was signed, there was calmness.Those who deny CeCA has brought us this disharmony are simply in self denial.

[@MsEverAfterings]

To arbitrarily offer one (and only one) groundless explanation to a nuanced issue is inimical to this discussion. Maybe you should check yourself whether you harbor any racist thought between 1965 till CeCA was signed? Lol

[@ibatawi]

@@MsEverAfterings I have Malay and Indian friends whom we grew up together, We were perfectly happy in the good old days. Equilibrium was reached and each ethnic group knew their place in Society. CECA disrupted the delicate balance and now all hell is breaking loose. You just added yourself into the self denial list.

[@kwoowoo828]

Racism is a mindset inculcated by the environment. SG may be better off than other countries in fostering a fair and just environment which give equal opportunity to all races but the same cannot be said for other countries whose citizen are subjected to dividing racial policy and differential treatment. The racism mindset in other countries' citizen is deep ingrained in them since birth. When you import these citizen into SG as SG citizen, they bring along with them this deeply ingrained mindset. Are these new citizen gonna become less racist overnight the moment they become SG citizen? Clearly the answer is no. And when they are in SG and unconsciously (I emphasize unconsciously because it may be something that they may not have control over) behave in a way that spell racist, it will invoke a reciprocal response from SG-borned citizen in a tit-for-tat defensive response. So it is not surprising that the overall environment in terms of racism has deteriorated over time in SG. The cost for such mass immigration policy must not be lost upon us. We may reap immediate low-hanging economic benefits but the cost that we need to pay back will accrues for future generation to pay back. We are now using our 'credit card overdraft' so be careful not to bankrupt the future generation with today's easy spending.

[@ckedo6077]

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