•Updates - • Yunjin has Eb5/E5 in her higher register, Her supported range is A3~Bb4/B4~Eb5/E5 • Yujin (IVE) will be around Jennie and Chaeyoung, Minnie can be placed somewhere around them as an estimation too. • Nayeon has a Solid G#3 in her lower register, Her supported Range is G#3~A4/Bb4 • Miyeon has A4/Bb4 in her mix, Her supported range is G#3/A3~A4/Bb4 • Sullyoon is a Weak to Average Vocalist, her place in this list remains the same. • For any updates on the dance ranking, please refer to the below document. - Dance Document ~ docs.google.com/document/d/1oiIblgTcOX0dmO2edqZ_yk6epR_E4bAOgva2f7n9CwY/edit?usp=sharing
@davakdks Жыл бұрын
There is no tier in dance, it's just made by someone
@guigzs Жыл бұрын
@@davakdks if it was made by someone, then it began to exist. Please stop trying to ignore the facts
@reinaldolemus169 Жыл бұрын
Jihyo > Yunjin, Jihyo has a better low register and her mix is much more solid compared to Yunjin, on her tour she has had quite a few solid B4s, Yunjin only beats Jihyo in HV
@Doli702 Жыл бұрын
@@davakdks isn't everything in this world made by humans ? ( except for natural components) Even the device you are holding rn is made by someone, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist lmao
@Cryforme- Жыл бұрын
Miyeon has A4/Bb4 ryt so why it's written as (Bb4)
@byuntbaek70999 ай бұрын
no way chaeryeong is below sakura and shuhua in vocal
@zyozyo246 ай бұрын
@@aidentai5867 sakura and shuhua are the worst vocalists in their respective groups. Chaeryoung is the temporary main vocalist of itzy. How can u say that😅
@elfy20066 ай бұрын
@@zyozyo24 temporary main vocalist ? Yes she is better than sakura and shuhua but she could never be in a vocal line
@zyozyo246 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 chaeryoung is infact a temporary vocalist. I don't think you have heard itzy songs. Don't worry. You should see Mr vampire and untouchable. Chaeryoung will prove herself there :)
@elfy20066 ай бұрын
@@zyozyo24 don't worry. I stan them.
@Kep1er-z4r3 ай бұрын
She cant improve herself with straining notes every stage. It'll make it worse @@zyozyo24
@fmtr-tv8ub Жыл бұрын
no matter whats the updates about vocal category with the new groups, i knew that wendy will remains at number 1 tho, the finest vocalist in kpop today
@somebodygill8666 Жыл бұрын
Not in kpop... Ailee and a few other singers are better... But for Kpop group... Especially 3rd gen.. Wendy is the best.
@solinkdc2645 Жыл бұрын
@@somebodygill8666that's why they said in kpop 💀💀
@somebodygill8666 Жыл бұрын
@@solinkdc2645 AILEE and the few other singers that I am taking about ARE IN KPOP.
@user-dy1cz4tf4f10 ай бұрын
@@somebodygill8666 kpop.... today
@yanetquesada216510 ай бұрын
@@user-dy1cz4tf4fAilee still sings
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
Jiwoo being at 18th in vocals and 2nd at dance Such an all rounder
@diamondentertainmentkpop5008 Жыл бұрын
this girl isn‘t an all-rounder. Y‘all need to stop calling everyone an all-rounder. That‘s kind of an exclusive title!
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247 Жыл бұрын
@@diamondentertainmentkpop5008SHE IS AN ALL-ROUNDER!!! Open your eyes,she outdo all your favs!!!
@ricocarpenter2189 Жыл бұрын
@diamondentertainmentkpop5008 all arounder is thrown around too much but jiwoo is definitely an all rounder. Dance, Rap, Vocals, and stage presence are all there
@cadendough10 ай бұрын
@@diamondentertainmentkpop5008 jiwoo, karina, and kyujin are definitely all-rounders.
@WAFFLE74710 ай бұрын
Seulgi being 5th in vocals and 1st in dance 💀
@martacastillo6272 Жыл бұрын
NMIXX is such an all rounder group. Haewon : 3rd (vocals) - 16th (dance) Jiwoo : 18th (vocals) - 2nd (dance) Kyujin : 14th (vocals) - 10th (dance) Lily : 2nd (vocals) - 26th (dance) Sullyoon : 9th (vocals) - 30th (dance) Bae : 30th (vocals) - 20th (dance) Out of 54 idols😮
@helloeveryone00 Жыл бұрын
bae is 20th in vocals, so nmixx is top 20 for vocals!!
@Pastelparadis9 ай бұрын
Yeah nmixx are and also they are rookie and are competing with really talented groups so iam proud of nmixx
@stafiannisa7958 ай бұрын
Top tier group
@sunhyolic6 ай бұрын
@@cutesweetdadi9495this isn't about aespa..?
@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSY4 ай бұрын
@@cutesweetdadi9495 *32nd
@Exhuberant Жыл бұрын
The way all 4 members of aespa are in the top 13 of vocals is *INSANE* , their vocal capability is one of the best of this industry..
@Safwaan_Q Жыл бұрын
Ikrrr
@jendeukie_manoban Жыл бұрын
aespa slays
@chinaramirzayeva483610 ай бұрын
Not in the industry but yes they are very good
@liana-cd9so9 ай бұрын
They're good, but the best of this industry, no
@nctthebest4 ай бұрын
@liana-cd9so there's a difference between the best and one of the best😊
@pawitwattanakool5035 Жыл бұрын
1st in vocals = Wendy (Red Velvet) 1st in (open) dance = Seulgi (Red Velvet)
@kpome Жыл бұрын
Yes, red velvet literally have the best 3th gen dancer and the best 3th gen vocalist
@martacastillo6272 Жыл бұрын
Also😮 2nd in vocals = Lily (NMIXX) 2nd in open style dance = Jiwoo (NMIXX)
@dark__ssparks Жыл бұрын
Only one problem , *ROSÉ IS THE LEAD DANCER IN BLACKPINK WHILE JISOO & JENNIE ARE LAZY . FORGET ABOUT JISOO , SHE IS IN THE PERFECT POSITION , BUT JENNIE ??????!!!!!?!?!???!!!!! U COULD'VE GIVEN 51 TO JISOO , 50 TO JENNIE & 28 TO ROSÉ . THIS IS VERY UNFAIR TO ROSÉ*
@Privatelyprodbyme Жыл бұрын
@@dark__ssparkswhy do you comment here they talk about rvv😂
@harandas812611 ай бұрын
Blackpink and twice are far better than these groups
@gwiwiin Жыл бұрын
SEULGI NEVER LEAVING TOP 5 😭💃
@sasanghaokip4106 Жыл бұрын
This is the most funny ranking ever😂😂😂......
@staycool979 ай бұрын
Aint no way u said that jisoo is better at dancing than Rosè😅
@Faithismyname8 ай бұрын
her opinion
@y2k.rosiee8 ай бұрын
@@Faithismynameyeah but Jisoo is so stiff while dancing
@flxxwersxbesties8 ай бұрын
ikr-
@staycool978 ай бұрын
@@Faithismyname no they ranked according to dance tiers which is (supposed to be) accurate
@vibestown-td8 ай бұрын
@@y2k.rosiee who told you so
@loveyou4695 Жыл бұрын
What did u expect ? # 1 vocal : Wendy # 1 dance : Seulgi Best kpop duo
@@ANDODARREXJBSHSthis is based on open style, momo is the best in idol dance
@kunpunko Жыл бұрын
this is one of the craziest rankings ever LOL
@Rkive_thv-cr7be Жыл бұрын
Let's see, according to you which is correct ranking?
@GawsLaws2 ай бұрын
Right now newjeans dancers better than kyujin kinda a joke to me ngl sorry!!
@kunpunko16 күн бұрын
@@Rkive_thv-cr7be if you genuinely think this is a correct ranking you are insane and have no idea what skills are lmfaoo. i’m not doing all that.
@yeontan12thv10 ай бұрын
Irene and rose is lead dencer, mina is main dancer 💀
@singingwhale9779 ай бұрын
This is about freestyle dancing. And positions doesn't mean your better.
@yeontan12thv9 ай бұрын
@@singingwhale977 Oh, Ok then
@getuliocesar62758 ай бұрын
@@singingwhale977 dizer que Jisso dança mais que Rosé é até crime
@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSY4 ай бұрын
So? Idk about Irene but Rosé and Mina are very stiff(due to them being flexible, it’s also the case with Lia and Kazuha), they often mess up the footwork, have little control over their body power, Rosé also has problems controlling her arms and legs due to their length and more.
@@kpopstan636 Giselle is stronger vocally than Karina. Her vocal range is wider.
@Minty_Sana Жыл бұрын
@@beautiful4816 Karina’s range is wider, Giselle has less materials. Gis > Rina, because Giselle is better in the range of A4/Bb4
@kpopstan636 Жыл бұрын
@@Minty_Sana oh ok bc people say that she better and I thought she was
@afeliz2642 Жыл бұрын
@@Minty_Sana giselle and karina are literally at the same level, giselle just being a little more consistently open in her mix, but karina having so many good moments as well, plus karina having better lows than giselle at G#3
@NingKook_ Жыл бұрын
i can't wait for aespa comeback !
@redvelvet9503 Жыл бұрын
Same🎉
@atikavanesa2288 Жыл бұрын
aespa Will comeback on 8th may And aespa Will realease prelerease song tomorrow 2th may
@NingKook_ Жыл бұрын
@@atikavanesa2288 yes !
@cxli318 Жыл бұрын
Same ik they gonna slay
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
Nmixx being in top 20 for vocals and top 30 for dance Slayyyyyy
@maliha_anjum11 Жыл бұрын
Lisa vocal is better than jisoo?😅
@AASTHAPATIL-gh5kn10 ай бұрын
No bro.
@manupate798610 ай бұрын
Yea Lisa’s voice is way better your right
@sooya_dream10 ай бұрын
No.
@-_jnn_-9 ай бұрын
Never
@-_jnn_-9 ай бұрын
@@manupate7986no, Jisoo is a powerfull vocalist with a range C+ (In CVT) she can support C5 and D5.
@anetaomar16449 ай бұрын
Seulgi ace 1st in dance and 5th in vocal 💛
@Iuslays4 ай бұрын
If she can rap, write, and compose then yeah she's an ace!
@cristopherabuan6563 Жыл бұрын
At last someone appreciate how great Seulgi is in dancing
@imyour_joy21710 ай бұрын
A lot of people do though…
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
OK but kyujin at 17 years being at fifteenth in vocals and 10th at dance
@mikkaill93 Жыл бұрын
Even though yeri and Irene are ranked low in vocals (based off support), I think they still have such a great sense of musicality in terms of music key, harmonies, layers, stability, and lyricism (for yeri)
@kdahitw.4389 ай бұрын
The dance ranking was crazy omg😂
@xreyishere9 ай бұрын
Truth hurts btw 🎉
@riahlexington9 ай бұрын
@@xreyishereI’ve seen other rankings that say much different. How can we know which one is “true”?
@xreyishere8 ай бұрын
@@riahlexington there are few facts there, but others are wrong
@binhtt61097 ай бұрын
@@riahlexingtoncác bảng xếp hạng theo abcde, không có dẫn chứng là sai sự thật. Bảng này có độ uy tín cao
@thiyammanglemba3564 Жыл бұрын
Already know seulgi will top vocal and dance 1st in dance 5th in vocal
@soooyaa__ Жыл бұрын
Seulgi is so talented❤️
@dontarguetoawall Жыл бұрын
Wendy 1st on vocal no surprise there. I know her dance kept improving but 18th on dance. Demmm. The improvement is crazy. Ace sonseungwan 💙💙💙
@GawsLaws2 ай бұрын
dance was a lil too crazy wrong imo but ye she’s very good!
@ryannguyen9249 Жыл бұрын
Jihyo being 8th in vocal and 3rd in dance. Our GODDD is INSANE 🤩
@kikygustami3359 Жыл бұрын
Especially in the fact that she's JYPs
@maayannir37029 ай бұрын
No way you put Ros’e that low in dance
@riki4thgenitboy11 ай бұрын
Shuhua and Sakura being higher than ANY of the ive members vocal wise is such a joke 💀
@sophiamukaevaquisanie Жыл бұрын
rose #51 in DANCE??? u're probably joking right now because WHAT
@clefdesol13 Жыл бұрын
Based in open style dance but I think she should be 50th
@lyricsarmyup29799 ай бұрын
Rose is High Tier 7
@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSY4 ай бұрын
What’s the problem? Don’t tell me, “she’s lead dancer” because that doesn’t justify it.
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
Haewon being the all rounder 16th at dance and 3th in vocals
@ferj_bat. Жыл бұрын
Everyone at NMIXX is an All Rounder!
@A_Comfy_Blanket9 ай бұрын
Will never regret her being my bias 🤍🤍🤍
@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSY4 ай бұрын
She’s not that strong in rap
@pinkystar6469 Жыл бұрын
JIWOOO YASSSSS BABEEEE ! no 2 for dancing while still a young group ! nmixx justt slayy ! 2 & 3 - haely 2 - jiwoo
@thiyammanglemba3564 Жыл бұрын
Red velvet and Aespa slay
@goodbyewithkarleyoutnowbesties Жыл бұрын
Liz > rosé for me but it’s interchangeable
@Minty_Sana Жыл бұрын
What the heck? I had a stroke
@pinkladyblogentertainment10 ай бұрын
No you are just biased
@Cupidador3 ай бұрын
hanni is truly one to look out for!! main vocal AND main dancer of her group???? truly the next it girl
@Soyaaaoa Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for rap rank :’) good video btw, it just show to some people how some idol are underrated or overrated in some categories
@binhtt61097 ай бұрын
Không có rap rank, chỉ có vocal, dance. Tất cả bảng xếp hạng rap đều là bịa đặt 🙁
@KBAE_KP10 ай бұрын
how can jisoo and chaeryong be the weakest vocals (in their groups) if they are the lead vocalists how can rosè be the weakest dance (in their groups) if she is the lead dancer
@CarameLiife10 ай бұрын
Chaeryong is sub vocalist tho
@amanpreetbrar78369 ай бұрын
Bp is rap based group and jisoo has weakest vocals among them along with lisa bruhh
@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSY4 ай бұрын
Positions don’t mean shit. Jihyo is the 2nd best dancer in her group yet she doesn’t have a dance position, Yuqi is the 2nd best vocalist and she doesn’t even have lead vocal ect. Chaer is sub vocalist and Jisoo isn’t a good vocalist, she just has an attractive voice. Rosé is stiff, dances awkwardly(due to her long limbs), has problem controlling her body and her power, often messes up the footwork and more. Chaer is my itzy bias and Rosé is my bp bias so whatever you say idk
@TwinkzyssАй бұрын
@@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSYgirl… JIHYO ISNT the best in twice, she doesn’t have a better technique, footwork, projecting and clean lines than Momo, Jihyo is a really good dancer but not the best in twice. Rosé is 2nd on her group, she isn’t “stiff” footwork, body lines, angles, fluidity, insolations in all of this she is good + she is a one of the greatest performers
@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSYАй бұрын
@@Twinkzyss she is stiff, and she doesn’t have good footwork. Jihyo and Momo are interchangeable
@lluuiizzff9 ай бұрын
Jihyo is really THAT girl, the better vocalist and best dancer in Twice ❤
@solinkdc2645 Жыл бұрын
I respect your work and omg im so surprised that Chaeryeong is so low in vocals and that Momo is below Jihyo 😨 I am sor proud of Jiwoo being second but I somehow always knew since O.O she was such a powerful dancer
@Rkive_thv-cr7be Жыл бұрын
What surprises you? Did you expect Chaeryeong to have a higher place in vocal?
@solinkdc2645 Жыл бұрын
@@Rkive_thv-cr7beyeah because I know nothing about vocals I just started learning recently, I wasn't expecting her on like the top 20 ofc but just not 50th
@Rkive_thv-cr7be Жыл бұрын
@@solinkdc2645 I don't understand much vocal either, but there are videos explaining why Chaeryeong is in the top 50
@whathexyu59499 ай бұрын
the way yeri become the last at dance and seulgi become the first at dance
@FearlessBunnyy10 ай бұрын
Newjeans being a great dance group ofc nmixx and redvelvet being amazing Hanni 8th in dance is everything
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
Selugi deserves more 5th at vocal 1st in dance Our talented queen
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
The fact that it is both rv members at top 1 for both categories their talent doesnt get recognized becuase of those dozen members ( yeri improved a lot)
@ryanlee351410 ай бұрын
which dozen? There's a lot.. TWICE 3 or 4 LE SSERAFIM 2 ITZY 1 (she's the dozen's dozen cuz she's better than most of dozens in dancing) NMIXX 0 (I'd say none cuz all of them are good imo, even Bae) IVE 1 (Leeseo is Wonyoung younger version) RV 1 BP 1
For me Twice and Ive are the vocal queens✨ And of course I don't know about dance queens but Momo and Jihyo are the Emperesses of Dancing 💖 🔴IT'S MY OPINION
@irenzhere Жыл бұрын
OMG!! I DON'T BELIEVE THE VIDEO IS GOING TO COME OUT IN 3 HOURS!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!
@lovelynicki Жыл бұрын
CHAERYOUNG IS BETTER VOCALIST THAN SAKURA(i think sakura must be the last,no hate I love her)
@JessicaSilva-qx8pr Жыл бұрын
Red velvet on top ❤
@denamacarena712311 ай бұрын
Jihyo being 8th in vocals and 3rd in dance
@swiglies6418 Жыл бұрын
nayeon is absolutely better than jennie in dance 😭😭😭
@marangelysgonzalez8203 Жыл бұрын
It's open style
@swiglies6418 Жыл бұрын
@@marangelysgonzalez8203 in open style nayeon better than hennie
@aliceyat2793 Жыл бұрын
@@swiglies6418 jennie is improve
@lluuiizzff9 ай бұрын
when jennie wants she can EAT
@annamathew7096 Жыл бұрын
can you do part 2 including rap and sp??🙂
@P.a.l.e.s.t.i.n.e Жыл бұрын
And visual
@annamathew7096 Жыл бұрын
@@P.a.l.e.s.t.i.n.e visual isn't a talent💀🤌🏻
@gwiwiin Жыл бұрын
@@annamathew7096 yes but what if we just want to know??
@guigzs Жыл бұрын
@@gwiwiin then search how much % each idol fit on kbs, visual ranking is useless
@ariazuku5 ай бұрын
@@guigzsgoogle doesn’t give the answer right away, we have to look through stuff which is quite a waste of time if we don’t find it
@sajimols3162 Жыл бұрын
all new jeans members came under 15 in dance it shows new jeans is the best dance group but many people will disagree this becuase their dance steps is not hard as itzy nmixx but their choreogrphy is based on open style thats why they are good at dancing
@kikygustami3359 Жыл бұрын
Actually NJ dance is the hardest, it's not fully coordinated dance but every member have different move when they keep in sincronisation
@yungypik435410 ай бұрын
ALL ROUNDER JIWOO APRECIATION 🔥
@aestheticgorlmatrial Жыл бұрын
Woah Jihyo beated Momo in Dancing 😱🤯
@littlered44411 ай бұрын
this is not an accurate ranking
@Hrts.4.itzyyy10 ай бұрын
Yes, unfortunately it is biased
@hqnaemu9 ай бұрын
@@littlered444It's accurate
@hqnaemu9 ай бұрын
@@Hrts.4.itzyyyNot biased, it's based on open style
@ariazuku5 ай бұрын
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPLY TO COMMENTS AND SAY THIS IS BASED ON OPEN STYLE?
@belkiyildizlaraasigimdir9 ай бұрын
Jisoo and Jennie better than Rosé?? ARE YOU OK BRO
@belkiyildizlaraasigimdir9 ай бұрын
in dance*
@user-lu8hx1dx5w9 ай бұрын
Momo twice deserves to be number 1 in the dance ranking she's better than anyone else this is insulting
@thiyammanglemba3564 Жыл бұрын
Omg i cannot with this storage i already used up im troubling 😭 very hard work you did you deserve all the views wait seulgi is mid tier 5 ?
@Minty_Sana Жыл бұрын
For now, yes
@thiyammanglemba3564 Жыл бұрын
@@Minty_Sana omg i already believe she is mid 5
@Minty_Sana Жыл бұрын
The lowest Mid T5, for now
@iamspooky2209 Жыл бұрын
I think kpop idols should be ranked as performers, not dancers. Dancing is part of performing and it's very important, but if someone dances well with stiff or bad facial expressions, even if their dancing is great, they're not good as a performer.
@riahlexington9 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@amelialalisa9 ай бұрын
Seulgi number 1 in dance??? Bro Lisa and momo-
@WoNYOUngfallingoffaBigbIgStAGe9 ай бұрын
They arent half as good lmao yes they are in top 10 but not number one 💀
@amelialalisa9 ай бұрын
@@WoNYOUngfallingoffaBigbIgStAGe ur opinion babe 😘 I was stating a fact... Momo and Lisa r better luv 😔
@WoNYOUngfallingoffaBigbIgStAGe9 ай бұрын
@@amelialalisa its not an opinion its a fact seulgi is better lol sad you cant handle the truth🫶😙
@amelialalisa9 ай бұрын
@@WoNYOUngfallingoffaBigbIgStAGe sure... Go cry to ur Plastic wonyoung pick me 😂😂😂
@ariazuku5 ай бұрын
open style~ NOT IDOL DANCE OMH
@idkymhere6 ай бұрын
NMIXX is such an Insane Group In Vocals All 6 members in Top 20 3 members in top 10 Nd 2 members In Top 3!! In Dance All 6 members r minimum at level High Tier 7!! (Which is the level of best dancer in many groups) Haewon being Low Tier 6 Kyujin High 6 ranked in Top 10 Nd Jiwoo Taking 2nd Spot Overall with her level of Low Tier 5 making her One of the best dancers in 4th Gen!! Truly Amazing NMIXX is such an All Rounded Group Even in Rap though not as strong as their Dance nd Vocals , Still is quite good and all 6 members have shown the potential as rappers while Jiwoo Being Good at Rapping Kyujin Sullyoon Haewon Bae nd Lily have proved they can rap too in their Videos!! Nd Btw Not Newjeans being one of the best dance groups in 4th gen!!
@fatihmamonto843510 ай бұрын
the dance ranking💀
@atoz44976 ай бұрын
jesus christ this makes me glad that kpop stans arent in charge of kpop idols - the mysterious "support tiers" r so useless bc support isnt even the most important part of singing. theres so many other things important to singing like pitch, vibrato, clarity, agility, etc. - the dance "tiers" r absolute trash bc theyre based on open style (which is very different from kpop dancing, which is why chaeryeong who is arguably top 5 idol dancer) and they group together a lot of dancers of very different skill levels to the same tier (like it groups weak dancers like jeongyeon with stronger dancers like sana)
@joshdun930410 ай бұрын
Lisa should be higher in the dance category
@beejork__.9 ай бұрын
Jennie must go all the way in the dance :33
@user-qk5ly3xt8s11 ай бұрын
Momo is the Queen of dance You put her in 7 place Who are you 😢
@sof921911 ай бұрын
Bro 7th place is amazing😭
@ariazuku5 ай бұрын
it’s based on o p e n s t y l e
@mvv09 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how vocals are ranked but I feel like Soyeon is definitely higher than Lisa, Eunchae and Gauel. Alsa I think Yujin is higher than Mina and Jennie. Ain't no way Rose and Irene are ranked lower than Jisoo in dance. And Jihyo is good but she isn't a btter dancer than Momo.
@CheShiny Жыл бұрын
Aight so average placement: Vocals: Aespa: 8,75 Nmixx: 11 Red Velvet: 22,6 NewJeans: 28 Twice: 31,33 (S)I-DLE: 31,4 Blackpink: 31,5 LE SSERAFIM: 32,2 Ive: 36,67 Itzy: 37 Dance: NewJeans: 11 (omg, I was not aware of that at all) Nmixx: 17,33 Itzy: 18,4 Aespa: 27,75 (S)I-DLE: 28,6 (huh, I expected them to be lower) LE SSERAFIM: 29 Twice: 32,11 Blackpink: 33,5 Red Velvet: 33,8 Ive: 40,5 (saved by Yujin💀) My fav: 1. Itzy 2. Blackpink 3. Nmixx 4. Aespa 5. (G)I-DLE with 6 members 6. LE SSERAFIM (surpassed TWICE with this comeback) 7. TWICE 8. Ive 9. Red Velvet 10. NewJeans 11. (S)I-DLE with 5 members
@onyourm_ark1711 Жыл бұрын
NMIXX ATEEEEE !
@afsh90892 ай бұрын
sakura is like 10 times worse than momo vocally
@Lss125 Жыл бұрын
Minty slaying as usual. But i have some disagreements • I don't think you should use Underdeveloped to Weak, this isn’t a real Tier. • I don't think you should put Yujin/Rei/Minnie in a different tier as Mina/Chaeyoung (I didn't said Jennie, because she could be a really low w, but That's arguable), they are the same. • Liz doesn't have G#3/A3 - A4, her supported range is A3 - A4/Bb4, she has never supported a G#3. • Hyein is Weak tier and stronger than Haerin imo. • Chaewon has enough development for say she has A3/Bb3 on her supported range. • Yunjin has supported head voice up to G#5 (at best) (but I don't know how consistent her hv is.)
@katykim Жыл бұрын
Mina jennie and chaeyoung all were weak at a time their just less consistent they have a support range arguably weak but lack engagement with their diaphragm, undeveloped are those who haven't supported but are relaxed its unfair to put people who's support is inconsistent there because they have actually supported, Liz has supported G#3 but since Debut its debatable, haerin is the second best Vocalist in New jeans ,yunjin head voice is extremely consistent but she supported Eb5/E5 in head voice no more no less.
@Lss125 Жыл бұрын
@@katykim not sure about Rei, but Yujin and Minnie have occiasional moments of support too, and are more than "just relaxed", and that is the reason why I said they should be on the same level as Jennie, Mina, Chaeyoung.
@reinaldolemus169 Жыл бұрын
@@katykim the weak tier already encompasses the differences between support, low weak is for those who have had occasional support or that is extremely inconsistent and shallow (Mina, Chaeyoung and jennie), mid weak is for those who have shown support more than low weak and is less inconsistent, but not enough to be high weak (Sinb, Yoon and Yeji), and the high weak show almost all the time shallow support but have some inconsistent moments (Chaewon, Joy and Lia), no need to invent another tier
@Oliver-uz1fs Жыл бұрын
@@reinaldolemus169 Sinb and the trio aren't weak tho
@reinaldolemus169 Жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-uz1fs They reanalyzed them and the three were left as Mid Weak (E), since they do not meet the standard of an E+
@RoyaleMusical9 ай бұрын
the fact that 4/6 nmixx members are higher than the 1/x in other groups is insane! oh also aespa all being top 13 wow
@lubematt924211 ай бұрын
Rose is a lead dancer? Why is she so low
@Safia-bla3 ай бұрын
I think she loves nmixx, which is why she puts them in the first ranks
Agree. No idea how Sakura and Shuhua got so high on their ranking, and Wonyoung absolutely isn't as far from the others in IVE as she was originally put. I still think Shuhua should be lower than everyone here except maybe Sakura since she's quite literally tone deaf, but your ranking makes much more sense. The only thing I would really change is that Yunjin is absolutely not better than Seulgi. There's an argument for Winter and Jihyo to be had but the only thing she has over Seulgi is head voice, but this is a support ranking, and I think Seulgi (and likely Jihyo) are more supported than Yunjin. Is there enough material to deem Giselle at a C- and definitively better than Nayeon? I feel like she hasn't sung enough to be able to tell how good she is but I suppose if we're going by support alone that could make sense.
@ghostii13528 ай бұрын
Ofc red velvet are the true queens
@Oliver-uz1fs Жыл бұрын
Not sure regarding Minnie but Yujin is definitely better than Jennie/Chaeyoung
@Minty_Sana Жыл бұрын
I guess Minnie had supported a few times? I saw it somewhere being mentioned I don’t quite remember
@Multistanofkpop8883 ай бұрын
@@Minty_Sanayour ranking is so stupid
@JoyRoy-pd5tz9 ай бұрын
Blackpink vocal update rose C- (low average) jennie D-/E+ (weak average) jisoo D-/E+ same as jisoo lisaF+^ shallow support
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
Sullyoon on 9th at vocal and 30th at dance most talented visual from these groups No don't feel like I am just dragging other visual down no sullyoon just is so talented despite her knowing tabt she will get in without talent Bae dozen who cares to call her that 20th at dance and vocal both
@pinkystar6469 Жыл бұрын
bae & sully outdance & outsing their main & lead vocal & dancer
@afeliz2642 Жыл бұрын
1, this ranking cleary is not the best(is not that bad but has to change a lot of things), like chaer from itzy being last in her group when she has better placement and relax momets than yuna or ryunji with that said, sullyoon is not near to being the most talent visual when winter is here, winter has better vocals, dance and rap by far than her
You're so talented I can't imagine ranking so many Idols in so many categories You deserve sm more
@imasaiko_ Жыл бұрын
HELP Karina being 13th in both vocal and dancing, also she's a great rapper she's the most talented person indeed
@somebodygill8666 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Nmixx over all rankings are really impressive.
@dalsonyan Жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s very important to recognize the supported head, voice of vocalists like yunjin, Wendy and such, that’s still a very important part of the registers, and the fact that you were completely ignoring them even in the supported range is unfair
@dalsonyan Жыл бұрын
Scratch that, you completely ignored Yunjins head voice and only hers A3-B4(C5)-G/G#5
@afeliz2642 Жыл бұрын
@@dalsonyan the G5 IS part of yunjin"s head voice😐 and yunjin mix is so inconsistent to be B4 and she doesnt support C5 IN MIX Neither, shes A3-Bb4/B4-Eb5
@dalsonyan Жыл бұрын
@@afeliz2642 yes, they completely ignored the two notes even in the update, and, if you use proper notation, you can properly acknowledge her full range
@afeliz2642 Жыл бұрын
@@dalsonyan she just has an average head voice…it’s not like she’s going to downgrade the hardest for not putting head voice The most important registers for sopranos is the mix/belt so even if she has the greatest head voice if she doesn’t fix many aspects of her mid-belts she’s not going to be better vocalist
@dalsonyan Жыл бұрын
@@afeliz2642 I’m not worried about the tiering, I’m worried about the notation
@pita0220 Жыл бұрын
Wendy ace and all rounder, vocal queen 🔥🥰
@Aaaah12310 ай бұрын
Gigi being main rapper but 13 in vocals
@yunangelxoxo Жыл бұрын
Wendy and Seulgi 🔥
@Anjan_- Жыл бұрын
The main slayer
@joshdun930410 ай бұрын
Rosé is a better dancer than Jisoo by miles
@Hazelglowwy Жыл бұрын
when u placed jisoo above rose i knew this list was damned
@vidushisharma5234 Жыл бұрын
In vocal too like Lisa above jisoo?!? Lol this list is super biased
@swagqueen8589 Жыл бұрын
Evt katılıyorum hatta video sahibi hakkında bazı once lar çok adaletlisin bayılıyorum sana fln demiş ne yasiyo bunlar rosenin dansı iyi ve kesinlikle jisoo Irene Lisa vb bikac idolden daha iyi vokalist derecesinde gostermemis ayrıca koskoca koreaboo naver gibi çok büyük ve güvenilir sitelerde hatırlatırım ki bp hakkında jennie ve jisoo ikisi BİRLİKTE LİDER VOKALİSTLER yaziyo hep hatta bazı sitelerde jisoo jennieden bir seviye yüksek olduğu yaziliyo ama sonuç olarak jennienin ses seviyesinden düşük olsaydı lider vokal olmazdı ayrıca jennienin vokali çok güzel ama jennie vokalini rahatça sergiliyo jisoo bebeğime bu şans nadir taniniyo yg gerizekalısi her zaman en popüler üyeyi önde tuttuğu için şu son iki senedir en çok fan kitlesini genişleten popüler uye jisoo ztn belli oluyo dizisi çıktı koskoca dünyanın en büyük ikinci giyim kozmedik yani moda sektörü devi Dior un önce Kore sonrada GLOBAL ELÇİSİ oldu birincisi Louis Vuitton ikicisi Dior dur ztn belki aynı şekilde bir diğer dev marka CARTİER de aynı şekilde dergi çekimleri albümdeki şarkı dağılımı born pinkte daha adaletli bir şekilde dağıtıldı eskiye göre bazı yerler biraz sıkıntılı olmasına rağmen genel olarak eskisi kadar değildi solosu çıktı bu son iki senedir jisoo popüler olduğu için ztn bukadar şirketin gözdesi oldu şuanda jisoo son iki senedir parliyo ve umarım hiç ışığı sönmez umarım bütün BP üyeleri başta jisoo hepsi sözleşmeyi yeniler ve karşımızda daha güçlü bir BP görürüz inşallah aminn
@xxlorale2 ай бұрын
12:55 How tf is Momo only 7th, she should be number 1
@hermblood21 күн бұрын
sakura and shuhua being higher than chaeryeong and girls from twice is crazy
@angelicamc837511 ай бұрын
Momo is the Best Dancer
@dive_once3 ай бұрын
I would rank 55 in both categories
@i.nthezone Жыл бұрын
This isn't about our beloved idols or the video, but I want to say this to you, Minty Sana: You've always been one of the most unbiased KZbinrs (in the k-pop community) and one of my favorites indeed. You know how to make a good ranking and list. You have some of the most agreeable rankings. I totally approve of Seulgi being moved to Mid Tier 5, she's super satisfying to watch. I agree with Ryujin being a Low Tier 5, I just love the way she dances. I agree with Chaeyoung being a Low Tier 7 instead of a Mid Tier 7, she's pretty stiff. But, back to you, your editing is super good and the format is great too. Super unbiased and great explanations and details. I feel like people value support too little. It's a big saving grace on a vocalist. Yoohyeon has support, and Siyeon doesn't. She may have it now, Dreamcatcher is a small group, so it's hard to find updated rankings on them, but I believe Yoohyeon has had it for a while. Support is what would put her above Siyeon. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, could you rank Dreamcatcher? I really need a good unbiased ranking for my ultimate group, and you happen to be very trustworthy with that question. Also, in your opinion, who is a better vocalist? Wendy or Taeyeon? I see it as a big debate everywhere, so I'd like an answer. In my opinion, I'd say Wendy, but she's my bias and I have no idea about vocal. I'm more knowledgeable on rap and dance. So, this is more me ranting about idols now, so I better finish it up before I go off about LE SSERAFIM's comeback lol. Anyways, hope you enjoyed my sweet message and love from karomi!
@Minty_Sana Жыл бұрын
Taeyeon is quite better afaik
@Lss125 Жыл бұрын
Actually Siyeon has support, she was misuvaluated. Yoohyeon is low Average Siyeon mid Weak to Average SuA and JiU Low Weak to Average Handong has some grasp of support, but is inconsistent Gahyeon and Dami doesn't support
@i.nthezone Жыл бұрын
@@Lss125 My bad, shouldn’t have assumed. I saw videos from a while ago saying she didn’t have support, and some saying she does from just a little while ago, making me assume she does have it now, but didn’t back then. So, my bad, and thanks for the kind correction. I’ll make sure to remember who supports and who doesn’t for the future. God, I’m a bad Insomnia lol.
@i.nthezone Жыл бұрын
@@Minty_Sana Thank you! Maybe shouldn’t have been biased there. Thanks for the facts. :)
@SMGENTERTAINMENT3 Жыл бұрын
@@i.nthezoneTaeyeon is really better. Tbh Wendy mix is like High AA level, She is Just in Low P due to her developed registers (Lower and upper)
@choerrylip11 ай бұрын
i'm MY but need to say this how tf mina is 8/9 in DANCE💀
@handl3rrrr10 ай бұрын
is it just me or anyone else have a feeling that Wendy will come first on the vocal list
@injunnie6568 Жыл бұрын
Y'all realize the strongest vocalist of new jeans is on par with the weakest vocalist of nmixx, y'all nmixx are next level of talented
@gillsow Жыл бұрын
the dance list is definitely a list
@folkloresxo5 ай бұрын
Anyone who states or believes Soyeon has weak vocals just proves how little they know about her and gidle. Soyeon could EASILY be a main vocalist if she wanted to.
@queen_yulia Жыл бұрын
SEULGI & WENDY SLAYSS
@Jasmineluvsroses3 ай бұрын
i actually had a panic attack when i saw minnie at 31 and cmon can yall not agree that minnie is a slighly alot better than yuqi (i am not hating yuqi also has great vocals) 😭😭
@guigzs Жыл бұрын
SLAYYYY Minty!! omg I was missing the long videos so much