Mirage F1 vs MiG-21 | Cobus Toerien

Former SAAF Mirage F1 pilot, Cobus Toerien, shares going up against Angolan MiG-21s during the Angolan Conflict.
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[@javiermarrero3525]

My uncle, Raciel Marrero was the lead of the group that flew on october 5 1982 against Toerien and Rankin. He got shot down by gun fire from Major Rankin, but managed to reach the airport.

[@iqbalsandu8182]

Is he still around?

[@gerhardtnell5541]

Outstanding! What a super guy. One of our best.

[@johannschachtner7539]

What an amazing story!!! As youngster I was mesmerised by the SAAF “vlamgatte” and to hear this interview almost 40 years later is just priceless!!! Such a great channel with brilliant content.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks very much, Johann!

[@Farweasel]

It really is. There's one thing that really comes across time after, time after time 'though .................. They're all really great guys that are being interviewed. Sure, you wouldn't trust half of them with your wife, your girlfriend or misstresses. But you'd be delighted to have them coving your back if there was trouble around.

[@iphoneupdate]

My Uncle served in the Mig 21 Squadron, respect to the SAAF pilots. Glad the war finally ended.

[@robertjacobsfishing]

Amazing to hear the story from Cobus!

[@Fast85FoxGT]

This is awesome. What a cool experience and story.

[@andrewferguson3535]

Great interview what an amazing man 👏

[@Tyroniusmaximus92]

Amazing interview!

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thank you!

[@user-ez9en7vk2z]

Amazing untold stories.

[@CarlosMoreno-dq3kg]

Great video, do you know at what altitudes was the shotdown? And if he felt that the F1 wing grab the air better at high altitude than the delta of the mig21?, I would like to know the opinion of Cobus, because I understand that the delta wing is better at high altitude than the wing of the F1.

[@pabl841]

How vs Cuban MiG-23?

[@useryggfdcc]

Nice.

[@kpsig]

I have not seen the interview yet, I vote for Mirage in all aspects but climb. Let me see ;-)

[@keyboardcommando9046]

You can probably only use that extra climbing capability if you can risk the extra fuel losses, which the migs usually couldn't. Their operation range was pretty limited.

[@tonyaughney8945]

The SAAF was the finest Air Force in Africa, but not anymore.

[@mybru1]

And why not? do you currently serve in the the air force have you undergone air force training in the past 20+ years

[@mazambane286]

@@mybru1 Have been under a rock the past 27 odd years?

[@robinfist]

Correct. The number of aircraft that can be put in the air is extremely low. The budget is non existent too, so combat proficiency suffers heavily. Look at 28Sqn. How many C-130s are still flying? And this is at a time when parts are readily available. The SAAF is now a stitch of what it was. Facts speak fro themselves.

[@Me-mr8wk]

@@robinfist it's a waste of money if saaf puts all the aircraft in the air now, plus we don't need to worry because our neighbors don't even have a working airforce

[@robinfist]

@@Me-mr8wk the SAAF could never put all of them in the air. There is no money and limited skill. And if there is really no threats as you say, then why even have the aircraft in the first place? The F1AZ and Cheetahs are still flying elsewhere, so why spend on Gripens ($$$$$ in the pocket for politicians). The SAAF has become a joke. Half the SAAF can't even spell Gripen. Feel so sorry for my friends that served there, to see their air force go this way. Where I am from, our aircraft are all well maintained and even though our neighbors are allies, if we need to deploy, we are ready.

[@Magpie...]

Hey does anyone know the book he was talking about?

[@0MoTheG]

6:10 I did not understand what was everyone's vectors. Were they in a turning fight or not? What happened after the first merge?

[@CPiGTi]

The pair of Mirage F1's crossed head on with the pair of MIG's. They then made a 180 degree turn and chased the MIG's, As the MIG's were accelerating out of range, Maj Rankin flicked his intercept radar onto transmit in the hope that the MiG radar warning receiver would alert their pilots and force them to turn into the F1's, which they did. The F1's closed the gap and shot down one of the MIG's. While there was another MIG pair following a few miles behind the first pair. So essentially the were following one pair while being chased by another pair. Hope that makes sense?

[@useryggfdcc]

@@CPiGTi Major Rankin was my Squadron Commander at 89 Combat Flying School in Petersburg. The Cheetah D were stationed here till '90. Saw him yelling at pilots after ACM flights if they make stupid mistakes... Was very interesting time....

[@CPiGTi]

@@useryggfdcc what a guy to learn from though

[@nardusellis655]

If my memory serves me right first MIG 21 that was shot down in operation Daisy by a Mirage MK 3 R on a foto recce...the pilots nickname "Cheronky" (Kapt). Two Mirages where involved....but the number two try to shoot down his MiG that he followed and the sidewinder missile trigger mail functioned...pilot Kapt "Schabord" I was ground crew at the time and based at 2 Squadron Hoedspruit.

[@useryggfdcc]

I was working in Hoedspruit '83 till '85 1 Sqn

[@nardusellis655]

@@useryggfdcc I left in 1982 to do flight engineer course in Bloemspruit on Alo's.

[@useryggfdcc]

@@nardusellis655 It was interesting time. In '85 while working as a Radar/avionics tech on the MirageF1 AZ they send me to work on the Cheetah project. Stayed on that till '95. Now live in Canada 🇨🇦.

[@martinlagrange8821]

FYI - since the introduction of the Mirage F-1C to DCS World, the encounter has now been simulated to some precision - do have a look here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/boWZeGStja1mqJI&ab_channel=Showtime112

[@user-qo7zf1wo6u]

This battle was epic in one side you have the mirage F1 able to carry up to six baguettes and 200 round of Croissant and on the other side the mig able to carry up to 4 vodka heat seeking missiles and 120 rounds of babushka

[@kpsig]

Κάπως έτσι

[@garynew9637]

Haha

[@sargesacker2599]

120 rounds of grandmother? Must be the size of a village.

[@user-ez9en7vk2z]

Aspera Ad Astra.

[@Deontjie]

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[@chrisp4170]

No idea what this guy was talking about.

[@Farweasel]

Wombles. You might be missing them right now. Better go and check.

[@travellingsawyer]

Chris P, you clearly are not a South African or a military veteran …. Read up and enjoy the true tales of combat.

[@MrSiciro]

So you cant hear in English :-)

[@chrisp4170]

@@MrSiciro Yes, English is fine. What language was that?

[@Farweasel]

@@chrisp4170 Serf Effrikan English (You may wish to reconsider your assertion you're OK with English)