If u ever want a mirage pilot im down. Its the plane im really good with.
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
100% Join the discord!!!
@dnfluffles7726 ай бұрын
@@AeroTurtle o shi- hel ya I'm evil things on your server
@dankaloww10676 ай бұрын
The Su-27 Got shadow buffed btw, I've already seen it turning way better then usual from my own tests.
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Rr????!!
@Registered_Simp6 ай бұрын
Was doing this very matchup a week or so ago with a buddy of mine in his M2K-5F and holy fuck that thing is scary as fuck to fight. If I wasn't taking an F-15 or Gripen I was pretty much at a given disadvantage. I can't extend at all since Magic-2 + HMD just means I die, and it's hard to AOA fight a Mirage. I could win fights against him in Su-27, but it required me going into manual controls the whole fight, keeping my speed, and precisely choosing when to dump it all and slam my nose onto him for an R-73. If I fuck it up, I die. if I take too long to decide when to use it, he gets in Magic-2 WEZ, and I likely die.
@dnfluffles7726 ай бұрын
Ayyy he talkin bout me boiz
@charliec84346 ай бұрын
You can outrate the mirage. But the time required to drain its enery down in rate is somewhere between long and forever😂😂
@Registered_Simp6 ай бұрын
@@charliec8434 It's more a problem of "Can I survive to the deck transition to take advantage of that" than anything else 😆
@Registered_Simp6 ай бұрын
@@dnfluffles772 **Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson eyebrow raise + vine boom**
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
That sums up the flanker. Aoa + r-73 = kill. But if you mess up, you die
@Epic_candle6 ай бұрын
Mirage was never fool proof tho, the limited weapon load requires wise planning and discipline, the 2000-5F has a better radar and way more countermeasures, both are really fun to use and I always loved them!
@Epic_candle6 ай бұрын
Also the DEFA are pretty hard to aim with
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Tbh your right. The only time the mirage was really fool proof, was when they first added it. The only top tier bird you faced was the mig-21bis.
@syfury34036 ай бұрын
@@AeroTurtle No, when first 2000 was added, MiG 23 MLD, and F14 were already in the game 😅 (however I agree Mirage 2000 beat them without that much difficulty in dogfight)
@cleverlaziness6 ай бұрын
The SU-27’s flight model in War Thunder is very disappointing to me. I fly it the most on DCS and it performs very well. The flanker in WT feels like a brick even with dampening off and does not perform as well at low speeds in comparison to DCS. Perhaps my friend and I should upload a flight model comparison video between the two games
@okurkingcz68826 ай бұрын
The flight model is butchered, but since its a russian vehicle no one really cares. I wonder how it would look like if the f-16 behaved as bad as the flanker.
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
This would be awesome!
@user45g-4c5rf6 ай бұрын
Sur WT il devient très bon qu'avec moins de 12 min de fuel, j'ai remarqué ça par hasard en simu face à un F16C qui avait son nez sur mon cul mais a clairement était surpris quand d'un coup j'ai repris l'avantage à force de perdre en carburant... Avec le max de fuel il est beaucoup moins dangereux. Même si tous les avions sont sensibles à ça aucun ne devient aussi bon que le SU27 (à part le F15) quand il arrive à 10 min de fuel. Le F15 c'est la même chose, au merge il est numéro 1 dans WT quand il a 10 min de fuel. 😂
@lilMungo2 ай бұрын
@@okurkingcz6882it did before lol
@ItzCPU_6 ай бұрын
I think I’m seeing things. Oh wait, it’s just a mirage. 😂
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Xddd
@alaricpumani53726 ай бұрын
In mirages its crucial to not waist your opportunities, also don't be to soft GO AGRESSIVE that's how a m2k is supposed to be flown
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Aggressive is a good play style
@alaricpumani53726 ай бұрын
@@AeroTurtle 😅sorry not native English, so I hope it still makes sense
@FatherExo6 ай бұрын
As a sim player in both the flanker and the 2k, its a matter of skill 😐😐😐 rate fighting applies to any at all aircraft its just what best suits your aircraft. All in all you’ve brought great shame to mirage 2k fighter all around
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
I have dishonored the French Dorito
@StukaNova6 ай бұрын
"Nobody here but us trees" plz tell me someone gets that reference 💀
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
H u h
6 ай бұрын
I think you need to fight using the Damping mode, so that you don't bleed so much energy. Mirage bleeds a lot of energy but you bleed it even faster with manual mode. I use damping mode and I usually always try to retain my energy as much as possible and with it I win most of my fights against flankers.
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@warthundershowcasing89056 ай бұрын
Ngl, it def felt like you weren't even trying, just so you could make it a bit more entertaining
@specc_s14526 ай бұрын
Or maybe he doesn't know how to fly the 2k
@warthundershowcasing89056 ай бұрын
@@specc_s1452 How hard is it to brainlessly pull the plane in a one circle? Just pull on the stick. I think he's just doing a ragebait video with the comments hes making and the title.
@specc_s14526 ай бұрын
@@warthundershowcasing8905 he just aint good
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Yes your 100% right. I'm actually the best mirage pilot in the universe, I'm so good I bet I could beat the guy who made the mirage IRL in it. Yeah I said it!!! I'm rage baiting yall so hard rn!!!
@СергейНикольский-я2ц6 ай бұрын
@@specc_s1452he just tried to play it like if WT was DCS, in WT it is as brain dead plane as Gripen. The only difference is that the Gripen outrates everything because it has 0 drag in the game and doesn’t lose any speed so you just pull and you win 2C fight while M2K has no stall speed at all and can pull 18deg/s with 30 deg of AoA at 150km/h so you just pull and win 1C fight
@mrgarland52106 ай бұрын
The low speed performance and AoA pull on the mirage is superior. Merging at 900-1000kph also gives better early rate performance. Also you can remove that NVD action bar in the options btw. Gives you a but letter clutter
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm gonna remove that. Gets in the way.
@JIMYAL3X6 ай бұрын
Nice one ! slow flight , high AoA, HMS offboresight missiles .... this is why we wanted new gen jets in game😊, isn't true ? Please try to do some merges at min. 5km alt. and use some maps with high mountains peaks. The low alt + flat terrain is puting at advantage the plane that can rate fight better (when is just 1vs1) Thanks for your work and keep it going !
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
I'll add some hill maps for sure!
@Mr.Su-35Flanker-E6 ай бұрын
The Su-27 seem to be good at dog fighting, but when the Su-35 or other jets coms out, the su-27 would have lil chance of winning dog fighting.
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Su-35 with thrust vectoring will be insane
@Mr.Su-35Flanker-E6 ай бұрын
@@AeroTurtle fr
@adriancoric17216 ай бұрын
in air rb, the m2k wins almost every time. The fact that it can keep up with the gripen is enough proof that it can beat the flanker. SU-27 is just too heavy to keep up with them after a longer sustained dogfight it would just fall out of the sky while the mirage would just dunk on it
@СергейНикольский-я2ц6 ай бұрын
0:34 it will never work like this))) magic 2 has 1.5s fuse delay(r-73 for instance has 0.3s or something) so it just won’t explode if you launch it up close
@MrFoxtanz6 ай бұрын
Nevermind now the Magic 2 like the 1 rush the first flare he see...
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Ohh gotcha.
@MrFoxtanz6 ай бұрын
But in a true game, i think the Mirage directly died with r27....and magic 2 was nerfed and nit buffed! They gain a better tight turn and longer range but loose their irccm😮💨
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Perhaps
@user45g-4c5rf6 ай бұрын
Il faut savoir aussi que le SU27 devient un monstre quand il a moins de 12min de fuel... C'est clairement plus le même avion, pour le F15 c'est pareil.
@tom334305 ай бұрын
Why use m2k C when u got m2k 5f? Bad comparison here... HMD change everything.
@AeroTurtle5 ай бұрын
I don't have the later mirage
@Hey-im-Michael146 ай бұрын
Hey i do wanna seethe j 11 go agianst the su 27.
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
I'll do this!
@Hey-im-Michael146 ай бұрын
Thanks again.
@avantyofi_eri6 ай бұрын
can you do mig 29 smt vs su 27 ?
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Perhaps 0_0
@davidborrazvelazquez84076 ай бұрын
Man, but if I beat them with an f20, you made a lot of mistakes with the Mirage in the last duel you simply gave him the kill, how are you going to stop turning to give him your tail that easy?
@Marfius_Au_Marfongus6 ай бұрын
Nuh uh the mirage is the best plane ever made
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
Real
@Marfius_Au_Marfongus6 ай бұрын
@@AeroTurtle the French could never possibly make a bad aircraft
@RogueBeatsARG6 ай бұрын
You can rate fight with a Flanker, people need to stop taking Growling Sidewinder so serious
@RoachEatsVipers6 ай бұрын
Idk if gs ever said u cant, but in war thunder the flanker is a pretty mid rate fighter, most of the US jets will outrate it in a neutral scenario
@hemendraravi47876 ай бұрын
yea lol mirage outrates the flanker easily , its not exactly outrating the flanker but in a 2 circle fight its engines are powerful enough that it just keeps cutting into your turn so it will stay on your tail. (u can do this to shit on any mig29 and su27 in game with the mirage). rip russian tt none of their fighters are even on the top 5 list of best dogfighters. after fox 3 update , with just mig29smt with r77 yea i think they will get shit on by everything else in the game (gripen/f16/f15/mirage all with fox3s) as the r27er advantage wont be as huge.
@hyiv6 ай бұрын
Bro what the hell are u talking about where does Gs come from? and when has he ever said u cant rate with a flanker Lmfao. The flanker is dogshit in wt and a mirage dog walks any jet ingame rn unless u delta counter and unless the mirage pilot can counter that its gg. Aero clearly doesnt know what he's doing and there's nothing wrong with that but i have no idea what ur on about.
@specc_s14526 ай бұрын
@@hyiv couldn't have said it better myself
@AeroTurtle6 ай бұрын
The early flanker cannot rate most American fighter jets. The later flanker models. Perhaps.