MISC Odyssey Is The BEST Exploration Ship? | Star Citizen Q&A

[@rtek777]

What people don't realize is POIs are considered by Rich and CR to be exploration. What is missing and coming soon is Quantum Boost and more POIs. There's not going to be some magical thing they are planning to add that everyone thinks or dreams of being exploration, it's already in the game. Go back and listen to Rich and Chris at CitCon 2022 talking about it with Jared. You do a scan ping, fly to a signature and explore what is there. You're already doing it with salvage and mining. Other thing missing that's coming is map bookmarks so you can save locations and return later or share with friends. Mapping wormholes isn't going to be a thing like everyone thought. Only transient ones you'll be able to find which just about any ship with a scanner will find them. There won't be any mapping of the inside of a tunnel. It'll be like now in 4.0 just flying through and not hitting the sides.

[@senn4237]

People keep brining up finding transient jump points and that sounds really limited and boring to me. Exploration will end up being fetch quests. Go and find this object or place and bring it back/report its location.

[@Marlax-101]

The trans jumppoints are shortcuts. Backdoors to getbehind or escape and conserve fuel. This will be how you get behind enemy lines is what people don't talk about. That and they never decided if trans jump points go up to capital size. ​@@senn4237

[@MrDangerUXO]

I have been really enjoying the Starlancer MAX, would be nice to see that work transfer over to the Odyssey, I'm hoping there is a surprise rework on the Starfarer in conjunction with the focus on MISC. Great video thanks again for putting this content out!

[@marcuswynn89]

Yeah I can see how a lot of the starlancer/ hull - C assets could be used to produce the odyssey. The starlancer has one of the best internal layouts of any ship in the game currently

[@LT_Dante]

Finally someone to say it out loud: it’s “Star” Citizen, not “Comfy Planetside Base” Citizen. Great review, thanks!

[@JamelJBean]

Yooo tell em folks go play ASA

[@cidhomerimperialpneulemen2107]

I hope the Odyssey gets outfitted with Point defense cannons.

[@JDJ1213]

"It's not that long.... pause" that was a clutch pause, because I was about to say AYOOOOOO, LOL!

[@Metro2Metro]

The Odyssey I believe is a capital class paperweight. 1. The mining arm is only able to mine quantanium. You're going to be spending a lot of time trying to find quintanium to mine. This is going to drastically cut in the ship's main focus exploring surveying and etc. 2. People's perception of the hanger. It has been said that the use of this hanger could extend the ship's function. One of the greatest comparison would be the terrapin. This advance starter is no way going to be able to out scan a capital class ships, radar, and scanners. 3. This is a capital class ship, therefore the cost of maintaining maintenance running costs employing help. There are so many other ships to choose from that would do the exact same task and be A huge difference in running cost.

[@JayNut_001]

I think the most important point is 3. they allready said it will cost all a lot more and I bet something like this ship has very high operation costs, making it not very viable if you want to fly it solo. I just wish they finally did a gold pass on the Freelancer series, I love the MISC ships and it would be awesome to get a DUR for exploration ... when it´s coming ... in a few uh .. years? ^^

[@akastrak2235]

With the Starlancer release, and the "larger misc ships" news, we may see the Odyssey sooner than expected (btw meaning the onboard refinery will be inplemanted too), as the Max (or his variants) is basically a small odyssey in its general design. Furthermore, as a capital ship it'll be rly strong even for Pyro, S4 means a lot of shields (and this means a lot), size 5 turrets are deadly, and we will probably be able to carry some fury in the cargo area, plus the hangar bay, meaning a lot of deterrence. Iit's capability to be hidden in far space, and be fuel sufficient create the opportunity to use it as an operationnal base. Then, when other systems will open, some csv-fm onboard will help building outpost for example. Its global versatility makes this ship a must have for small groups of ppl and weekly missions in outer space. Definitly want CiG to release it asap !

[@arenomusic]

Dude gets access to a hangar the size of the Polaris' and the first thought about what to put in it is a Fury...

[@Luix_OS]

Hull B is still something that I'm waiting for and dont understand why its not worked on. But bigger MISC Ships is a good start

[@matthewsmith7947]

Well I got my Odyssey CCU finished at IAE so I'll be happy to see it finally made

[@banumtinielthenoob2406]

yes I picked up an Odyssey... Not sure if I'll like it yet or not

[@SpaceShortsYT]

I know it doesn't have nearly the same functionality, but I've decided to go with the Liberator for now (1-2 required crew). For smaller crew (1 or 2), I won't be out for "days" with the Liberator. I'll load up and fly it out to deep space (e.g. Aaron Halo) for long days (with a Terrapin / or comparable scanning ship, a Prospector (or maybe a larger solo miner if they make it), and the Expanse for refining "if it fits") fly off it, and return to wherever "home" is at the end of the day. The 4-7 crew requirements for the Odyssey have me scratching my chin at this point... Until they figure out how some of the bed logging mechanics are going to work... I'll stick with the Lib. I love the idea of the Odyssey and I really do like MISC ships, but I plan on specializing in mining (lol, who'd have thought it). If I have 4-7 people ready to crew for mining then we should be on the Arrastra or the Orion.

[@toecutter9372]

I’ve owned a carrack for almost 5 years and after this year’s IAE I’ve melted it and put it towards an Odyssey. I think this ship is gonna be the shiiiit. It also looks super awesome. I love MISC

[@mixjon76]

Plus you get to use a crack as a loaner ship while waiting for the odyssey 😮

[@8020erwin]

with the new resource and engineering game play, the fact it can only refine/mine fuel make nosense. When one fuse/or component breaks. your just hanging in space. If this is the ship to go further then any other it need to be able to build components and fuses. maybe ammo. And for that it needs to be able to refine and mine other stuff

[@sheetpostmodernist398]

Something interesting to note.. I believe the MISC IAE intro cinematic this year _showed_ an Odyssey, it was a quick rear shot as it headed toward a jump gate (the engine layout and upper rollbar were the key things pointing toward it). It surprised me that they threw it into the cinematic, when we've never seen much more about it since the initial pitch.

[@user-xi9iz3mk3r]

This Clip was from the original Pitch Video. Nothing new

[@Marlax-101]

Odyssey will be the casual roam around ship if it gets pds turrets itwull be fairly solid but its issue has always been redundancy. If it is damaged it is done. As for ships ect everyone always wants to put 1 ship in theback. Best case you put a few pisces and rovers in the back for backups. If you loose your only shuttle craft your in the water. Terrapin might work if you have repair funxtions.

[@Tanax13]

Since he specified "larger", I guess a rework of Freelancers is out of the question? Would love to see that be brought up to current standard..

[@VonChoker]

thank you for covering this. I was thinking about going to the Odyssey instead of Carrack but honestly with the dev answers it seems a bit too generic for my tastes especially with the lack of being able to refine ores for sale

[@xm153088]

I grabbed a CCU for the Odyssey, but I already have a Carack too. I really love the MISC design, especially with the Hulls, Odyssey, and Starlancer series. Base building isn't that appealing to me, at least base building for myself. I enjoy just flying in space and exploring the planet surfaces. I have a feeling the Odyssey and Carrack will both fit what I look forward to.

[@lystic9392]

The 'it's an exploration ship but doesn't have specialized equipment' part kinda concerns me a bit. It almost reads like: "It can explore it's just not good at it."

[@grimmsalem]

I’ve been building up my ccu chain over the past year and I’m at a 46% off. I’m definitely looking forward to having this ship along with the miri guardian as the support fighter.

[@leonidascarranza7893]

I have a question, what is exploring in this game? It is discovering a new planet, finding new materials, new animals or species. What is the mechanism to have such a large ship intended for exploring equipped with a kitchen, recreational room and other things if the trips in the game do not last more than 10 minutes. You can make the same trip with a cargo ship or some long-range combat ship

[@AUA298]

Good question, i guess they are talking about whaTs gonna happen in the next 75+ when we have hubdreds of galaxies

[@petrforst7358]

@@AUA298 exploration is just a fancy word for "larger fuel tanks and better sensors". None of this mapping jump points is ever going to make into the game. These people are living in the past grabbing onto dreams and hopes.

[@madtitan1946]

Unlike the carrack the Odyssey is a true Capital ship. That means capital ship rules apply when it comes to toughness. Not that it will compare to a Polaris but it should be difficult to take down. It may also grow in size.

[@marcuswynn89]

It’s a grower not a shower 😏

[@madtitan1946]

@ 🤣😂😅Nailed it!

[@madtitan1946]

Also they said it has the same hangar size as the Polaris.

[@marcuswynn89]

If that’s true then it’s a mini carrier

[@madtitan1946]

@@marcuswynn89checkout the ISE on it. I own one I think it’ll be great for roaming around and building small temporary bases for survival exploring then tearing them down and moving on.

[@durtyred86]

I think we throw the Carrack in this small bracket as if jump points are the only thing it'll be able to do. Forever fuel is good, no doubt, but it isn't everything. The Carrack will be able to "explore" just as well as the Odyssey. Tagging jump points is simply one tree branch section of a huge tree that is exploration.

[@marcuswynn89]

Forever fuel is meta

[@DrD3vic3]

​@marcuswynn89 unless they make the game StarFuel tm Wars, 5 solar systems is going to make refueling nothing more than a tax.

[@vasilizaitsez7455]

Ody has a hangar tall enough to squeeze a Vulcan in which is ridiculous. Hangar needs to shrink in height by about 3M so the measly 252scu cargo grid can expand to about 750scu. Mine, refine for self refuel was ill conceived. Ody should be Arrastra competitor offering the Expeditionary advantage at a premium. Vehicles and cargo occupy same space separated by where cargo grid is vs garage floor just like SL Max garage.

[@nuirueu]

750 scu cargo?... erm no lol. It's not a hauler.

[@vasilizaitsez7455]

@ by your logic Polaris shouldn’t have 576scu because it’s not a hauler. Ody is a long range deep space ship. It needs more than 252scu cargo for consumables and parts as well as what it finds out there to bring back.

[@arenomusic]

@@vasilizaitsez7455 Exactly, the hangar is just so insane on this ship. The current cargo is nice enough, but you could get so much more in that hangar footprint, even if it's just stored under it and the hangar height is reduced a little.

[@JWalker-FireFrost]

The original pic had a prospector coming out of hanger and a roc coming out of the cargo , so everyone bought it as a mining home base then 2 weeks later they said it only mines and refines quant for its self and they removed the Pic of the prospector and roc coming out of it and I think everyone refunded it .

[@JWalker-FireFrost]

I see you dreaming about the ship , you need to wait till it's out before you start day dreaming about it , everything changes

[@Orginal_Sinner]

If you go back and look at the odyssey reveal you can clearly see the hab and dual elevator layout carried over to the starlancer. Even though i enjoy my polaris, the odyssey will be easier to use. I'd like to see them rework the starfarer but in reality CIG will just make a new misc ship to replace it.

[@lameisthenewcool5277]

I just pray that instead of the mail slot window, they have an open canopy with the option to deploy blast shields/armor on the top to close it down to the mail slot - i hate the mail slot and no exploration ship should have such a grossly limited view of what they are exploring.

[@mminto]

I have a super serious desperate question /s how the heck do you get that side tab to show up after you've already entered the fleet viewer

[@kiwi4kian]

Have been thinking about upgrading my BMM to an Odyssey for a minute just don’t know if it’s worth while.

[@canop1601]

And yeah having a ship only life would be the ez way to go. To bad cig isn't going to let you. If you go ship only you will be cap out the things you could do in the game. And that gap would slowly get larger as time goes on till you are so behind that even npcs just start to slap you around.

[@xtradi]

Probably Odyssey does better for building outpost on fringe with on board refinery, manufacturers, and drones

[@drebbnittle5470]

Vulture fit?

[@marcuswynn89]

Probably so

[@Stormyy6310]

Do we know how exploration will work ? i feel like they're adding all those ships but I rarely see them mentionning how the exploration loop will actually work, i'm expecting something like in E:D but honestly I don't think it's going to have the same impact as in E:D since well 5 systems and you can only travel from marker to marker in "lanes" (ie you can't just decide to go to a random place in the middle of deep space)

[@saigyouayakashi5026]

I would imagine you that at the start only main locations like cities, space stations and some of the larger outposts will have QT markers. So you will have to explore to discover more or buy maps and charts from other players.

[@redsamurai6586]

So you just said RSI manufacturer but what they did say is “after the Polaris” they will work on larger MISC ships. I really hope they come out with the Odyssey. I mean how they can use so much of the same design from the Starlancer to hurry up and get this ship done. In addition when you’re talking about the garage separating from the hanger and you weren’t sure why didn’t you just watch the video walkthrough of the ship 😅

[@senn4237]

They said they are still on RSI i.e. the Perseus.

[@marcuswynn89]

@senn4237 he literally said out of his own mouth they are going to work on misc

[@stratoreyener461]

prospector can fit inside the polaris hangar

[@JamelJBean]

It's only one website that sells the starter packages yeah

[@Tentacl]

I finally finished a CCU to the odyssey with the last link, the hull D. No more spending for me.

[@marcuswynn89]

Good place to end your CCU chain

[@Tentacl]

@marcuswynn89 yup, I just won't go past the Ironclad Assault until they add the exploration gameplay loop and it's hopefully good.

[@494demigodd]

I hope the odyssey is the size of the Polaris when it comes out

[@cidhomerimperialpneulemen2107]

People need to stop griping on the Misc style windshield, its perfect as it is. I love the dashboard. Its not a fighter ship.

[@vakeervondelecruax8526]

Modular cargo? Yeah i dont think they are going to be working on this any time soon....

[@marcuswynn89]

Nope no time soon

[@juanecheyt]

WHO KNOWS!!.... it hasnt even been released!...... lets wait and see when it is.

[@creeperbarutu]

I have a BMM but misc odysey is always amazes me but i can have only 1 of them what should i do guys please help

[@marcuswynn89]

You’ll likely see the odyssey before the BMM

[@talentedpigeon3296]

BMM is superior, but it could likely take AT LEAST a couple more years before it's released, and will require way more crewman to operate/maintain

[@marcuswynn89]

@talentedpigeon3296 if it ever comes out

[@Roylevis]

i just melted odyn to buy some other ships and arrastra, guess i upgrade arrastra to ody again.

[@FamGamTv]

I just have so "little faith" at this point there is going to be exploration gameplay... finding a randomly spawned wormhole is the extent of it (as far as we know at this point).

[@PingWhisper]

Exploration is so far away It's hardly even real. 5 systems by the time 1.0, which will be mapped within weeks of release. 1.0 in maybe 4-5 years. For them to get even close to where EVE or Elite Dangerous is, is just not going to happen. They will need some type of exploration gameplay that isn't discovering stuff.

[@marcuswynn89]

The only way it will work if they make those secondary worm holes random and always changing locations

[@arenomusic]

It hasn't been about discovering new jump points to uncharted systems and never-before-seen planets for a long ass time

[@nmkjcjjjc6278]

Misc is amazing!

[@maxjergens]

It would be nice to finally get my Odyssey.

[@marcuswynn89]

It’s gonna be a good one for sure

[@JtheMitch]

im glad it not out yet ngl, id rather have it in a year or so when we have pyro and hopefully engineering and stuff

[@maxjergens]

@@JtheMitch I just sold my Odyssey of and picked up the Orion. So, I might have to wait till in game to try the Odyssey

[@JtheMitch]

@@maxjergens thats fair! definitely, and at least with the big ships if you like it it gives you a goal to work towards :D

[@paulyskidda387]

Means TAC and BLD

[@marcuswynn89]

Those are probably pretty far long in development

[@johnnymclemore8255]

The problem is concept ships are always 1 year away...

[@494demigodd]

They dumped the odyssey up to a capital class ship, is what I heard.

[@nexiorio321]

I think roaming in space without anything interesting to do is called touring or sightseeing , and should not be called exploration.

[@Stormyy6310]

I think they're going for something similar to in E:D but yeah I get the feeling they don't have a clear picture of what to do and I completely agree that what we currently have isn't exploration (like those clickbait videos suggests) but actually touring

[@cidhomerimperialpneulemen2107]

I dont like that CIG is nerfing fuel capacity towards the lower end. Weak!

[@HelloStarCitizens]

The Carrack is dead, not because the Odyssey killed but because the devs did. With there now being only five systems at launch, there is no reason to own a “deep” exploration ship.

[@petrforst7358]

1) Mapping jump points is wishful thinking. Will never make it to the game. 2) Exploration is fancy word for "larger fuel tanks + better sensors". 3) It will never be engaging enough for the entire crew and definitely not profitable enough for large groups. 4) Exploring procedurally generated settlements/caves/encampements will quicky become boring.

[@beeleaveme]

MISC Odyssey Is The BEST Exploration Ship? short answer? No, because it's not in the game

[@rtek777]

Also the Odyssey will likely be reconcepted because no one is going to have any fun looking for quantanium for 2 or 3 hours when they're already out of fuel just so they can warp around some more.

[@HighmageDerin]

we have a name for players that are "Less then Lawless" we call them "Griffers", and they are the scum of the online world! :)

[@Stormyy6310]

not to be that guy but yeah it's "griefers"

[@canop1601]

but no one going to be buying the worm hole data. unless they make getting around faster. bc when rep 2.0 comes out there will be no one who does pvp in the game

[@nmkjcjjjc6278]

Outsource your biome to valve man… work smart not hard… seen their biome…? Just a thought… how about PVP…

[@canop1601]

so why whould you buy a mining ship? when you can just buy an exploring ship? not only that it can also refine? so a ship is a better mining ship then mining ship will be....checks out with CIG xD what a joke of a dev team

[@andrewdavies3584]

If you listened, the dev clearly stated that the mining and refining of the Odyssey is purely a means to produce fuel and not to create refined ore in cargo.

[@canop1601]

@@andrewdavies3584 i did. and the part that lets me know it will is they said in the QA it could be. and if you know anything about CIG is they will put in and say anything to make a sell of a ship

[@cidhomerimperialpneulemen2107]

Kraken is one ugly ship, up there with the cutlass for my taste.