ON THE LIMIT 🔥 Honda Civic Type R FL5 // Nürburgring

[@mgcharoudin]

We just released our new FL5 wing: www.vulcan-alpha.com/shop#!/VA320-for-Honda-r-2024-Civic-Type-R-FL5/p/715646941

[@MannbacktVideo]

Nice! TÜV 😂😂

[@yogimaster2654]

That wing 😮 it’s big😂

[@BjorkensteinvanJurgenheim]

massive wang

[@Earl_VTEC]

i prefer the Honda Access parts full carbon OEM wing!

[@brandonharlow7067]

3300 euros lol. People just have way more money than sense these days

[@PolbeRacing]

It's amazing how much more grown up the FL5 looks compared to its predecessor and it still performs amazingly good

[@samserious1337]

128°C oil temp for 10°C ambient temp is horrible though.

[@gt-r9035]

​​@@samserious1337for racetrack the the Radiator of the air-conditioning must be deleted. Maybe in next future Misha will release a Video of a FK2R without heat-issues without air-conditioning. Its already recorded long ago.

[@SantosST170]

Basta meter um ep3 atmosférico com 250cv com bons pneus que bate o tempo disso aí

[@anticarnick]

The FK8 looks great. This definitely has a more Accord look to it but if I had to buy another Type R I'd buy another FK8. No one says that about a two-seater roadster or supercar-that it has to look like a mature sedan. Why is the Type R always held to this unusual standard?

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@anticarnick because the other type Rs before the FK2 were very dull styled in comparison to an fk2 or fk8

[@upbeatmantis86]

5:12 “lovely turn in”, thats what type r is all about. The king of corners!! ❤

[@LP-bt4jk]

Heel cats and demos are the king of corners and straights

[@petekaiser]

Wow this was an amazing lap. The FL5 was definitely quick along the corners and this is the only one that didn't overheat through the entire lap as well

[@lordzed83]

cause its cold day would cook like othewrs haah

[@SWOgottaGO]

In summer it would have cooked within 3 minutes

[@ameerfarid2005]

🤣 ​@@SWOgottaGO

[@scherzobenhaadi]

almost 130 degrees Oiltemp at 11 degrees outside temp.? Not so sure about that...😂 Never met a Civic Type R on a (Gand Prix-) racetrack that did not overheat.

[@gt-r9035]

@@scherzobenhaadi you need to delete the ac-radiator. Temps drop by 15K. I know some ppl regulary driving green hell & Spa or even Slalom (FK2R / FK8) without temp-issues anymore.

[@nikolavrckovic1588]

4:25 "New Curb Corner" at 170 Km/h is quite impressive speed.

[@MikeTreu-u6r]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss. Misha.. "hey look an 850csi" at 125kph through a corner.. lol. what a legend..

[@kutayarcan911]

3:19 "Yes officer it's just a stock Yaris" I was NOT expecting that GR flying off like that

[@ziyanbaloch8225]

Is it not a GR?

[@G2020-]

Gr yaris is very tunable.

[@filipbojkovic2217]

@@G2020- until that lawnmower engine blows up hahaha

[@wubziz4769]

@@filipbojkovic2217Toyota must trust that „lawnmower“-engine pretty much if you get free of charge 15 years of guarantee here in germany.

[@wil_leighton1618]

Awesome lap! The turn in rotation looked amazing, especially around aremberg and adenauer forst

[@harrmuu]

i always love to see fl5 runs on the ring. My dream car

[@duck8280]

Loved my FL5, best car for the $ hands down. Handles way above its class

[@stevecarter5084]

Great lap,you could see the passenger relax as he enjoyed the lap as it progressed. Nice driving Misha and Happy New Year,looking forward to lots more laps in 2025🎉

[@bor.is.coffee]

You must put thermal tape on the downpipe. Right next to it is an oil bath. Therefore it overheats. The exhaust is extremely hot.

[@gt-r9035]

Just delete the radiator of air conditioning. It's like in FK2R & FK8.

[@andys31337]

Like every civic, get an oil cooler for trackdays

[@gt-r9035]

@@andys31337 traditional oil coolers won't work proper. With those Sandwich plates with thermostate the oil pressure is getting low. I know a Tuner, who is driving Slalom with FK8 & he says ac-radiator-delete is the only proper sollution. It would be easy money for him selling oil coolers, but ac-radiator is the best sollution...

[@jimmyvu7533]

Honda inputs are top notch, truly a driver's car

[@ahmadrezasariaslani4650]

Fl5 does not have a dedicated oil temp sensor and the oil temperature is load base, so it may not be accurate . Moreover if you use it for track it's better to use 5w30 oil instead of 0w20.

[@volvo09]

I thought it was estimated.

[@Earl_VTEC]

I had written it before, a Honda mechanic from german maxrev forum once sent a batch of OEM 0w20 to Liqui Moly to have them offer a comparable oil or recreate it. After Liqui Moly's analysis, they responded that they couldn't offer an alternative because they don't have anything similar in their product range, and recreating it would be too expensive due to the many additives in the Honda OEM 0w20 - ultimately, the oil would then be more expensive than the original. Alternatively, I would suggest looking at the Motul V300 series. But ask MOTUL which oil can be used in the K20C1 engine!!!

[@ASJC27]

I believe the European cars have an actual sensor mounted to the bottom of the oil pan. The us cars just have the empty indentation where the sensor is mounted on the euro cars.

[@ASJC27]

@@Earl_VTEC I use motul 300v 5w30 in my fl5. The 0w20 is specced just to meet cafe requirements, but will result in greater wear, especially in a track environment. I used 300v 0w20 but decided to switch to the 5w30 (which the manual says is fine to use) for added protection. HTHS is 2.6-2.7 for 0w20 vs 3.5 for the 5w30 - that’s a massive difference, and engine wear at high loads is strongly correlated to HTHS.

[@chrisvigo4880]

Fl5 owner here...only issue compared to the older civics is vtec, exhuast sound/engine sound. But.....this car is fun as hell and me being a vtec fiene find no issue wanting vtec....the torque and handling alone is amazing!!!

[@saviorstyles9148]

Everyone let’s come together to se Misha drive an FD2 type R!

[@mgcharoudin]

One booked for this year!

[@igvtec]

​@@mgcharoudin Can't wait to see that one!

[@lordjuzblah3403]

I believe Misha is the living meme of "I don't always pass slow drivers, but when I do I check to see if they look as stupid as they drive" 🤣

[@lucagorrini5990]

One of the best FWD of all time

[@blacksilver877]

It's sad that modern cars can't match their older counterparts in terms of emotion. The new Civic is undoubtedly faster, but I still prefer watching videos of the old naturally aspirated Hondas. Great video as always!

[@garyhall7183]

Unless you have driven this car your option is irrelevant. Armchair race drivers smh.

[@nielsdebakker3283]

Only those NA cars can't keep up with this. Small powerband loses from Torque.

[@SparklingWalrus]

Lmfao the fl5 is fun af to drive what are you on

[@ApexwithDavin]

I'm so frustrated that that FL5 overheats and loses brakes doing what it's supposed to.

[@SSR_RedDevil]

I was thinking the same. The "old" ones, before 2007....are the best. Engines revving to 9+k instead of 7. Unfortunately, smaller engines and turbos are taking over everything. Being fast is irrelevant, if you're not having fun.

[@GWOTKoolAid]

I really love these FL5s. Like a BTCC car for the road. Blue looks great, too!

[@epark5687]

Misha looks like he’s just going for a leisurely drive on a Sunday.

[@shonen84]

Looks like Tony had the time of his life. Thanks for sharing, nice lap! Love the car

[@HKFIJIHK]

Great driving as always Misha! Love the Type R!

[@MaddVisions]

I own the exact color 2025 FL5 and absolutely love it. Now haven’t tracked it since it’s still breaking in. It not the fastest but it sure does everything I need it to do.

[@Flying_Lexus]

The new Honda design reminds me of the 90s. I think they're going in the right direction.

[@CaseyCollier]

I'm with a lot of other people in saying that the car would be better in individual mode with the sport or comfort suspension setting. Plus, you basically have to do the pedal dance if you want the brakes to last at all. If the owner wants to go even further, they can do the Integra suspension mod which makes the ride even better.

[@CyberTerrorism]

Honda power!! Last 4 year F1 manufacturer winner!

[@E63s_Scott]

Looks like it has mega grip and turn in wow, that back end swings around but then sticks, impressive

[@endless_touge]

Good start of the year. Hondas. The cars i mostly care about

[@joshuabenoit724]

I love this car and the color the camera doesn’t do it justice tbh.I own a sport touring 6mt in boost blue pearl and it looks amazing in person!

[@Aaronws98]

Mega Lap! Might be Worth looking into a intercooler. the IAT was looking abit warm!

[@fabrb26]

Imagine flashing the ecu to change that shift up sound to a rod knock one on april 1st

[@tahahaider5836]

😂😂

[@bokiNYC]

😂😂😂👍

[@gt-r9035]

@@fabrb26 then you delete the McLaren vibe ;-)

[@agios1913]

One of the best car of all time in world history

[@volvo09]

The braking is so hard it throws off my mind! Icm thinking "you can't downshift now!" And by the time the shift is complete the car has slowed to where the downshift is perfect!

[@redspud1293]

That was a really good watch that one 👌

[@dobie_bellaruby]

Love the FL5. Perfect family car and track day beast !

[@gouldnj]

Loving the continued content Misha. The aero parts are beautiful, but you have to find a US distributor so we can get it from you and you can grow.

[@mgcharoudin]

We're working on something :)

[@mroshfosh]

I looked up the song on the dashboard lol “stars will align kygo” it’s a good one

[@RWL2012]

lol same, it's alright for what it is

[@RDSAlphard]

Finally an FL5 that perform 10/10 for entire track, but IMO still need to watch for oil temp... IDK if 128°C at 10°C day is actually ideal. 😅

[@hondanickx]

Great lap and simple setup .I've been eyeballing the Endless Mx72+ brake pads for a while but now I'm sure they can survive a lap on the ring😊.Allthough on different calipers on my 10thgen civic.

[@MDEV-86x86]

And Endless CC40 brake pads ?.

[@hondanickx]

@MDEV-86x86 anything from mx72 plus and higher can take track use. Only the lower specs pads like CCM and SSS and others only take street abuse.

[@MDEV-86x86]

@@hondanickx OK. Thank you for your answer.

[@tenshiba249]

Day 3 of 2025 and already two Honda Civics on the channel? Count me in! ❤

[@nynms203]

0:27 "4 degrees or so" *wearing a short-sleeved t-shirt* Peak male performance

[@SHIZURAKU]

Used to drive this car in Assetto Corsa on touge serves and I remember it was capable of passing all the other cars on server especially in the corners. People would cry it's a broken car mod cause there's no way it would be turning like that in corners. Now watching this video I'm reminded of that mod and it makes me want to download AC again to drive this car once more lol. (of course I would love to drive this irl more than in AC, but I don't have the money for it 😆)

[@doolanbrian]

Impressive cornering speeds

[@Spooner_OG]

Who are the 25 sad people, who disliked the video, lol. This was a great lap.

[@Edizzle15]

How do I be able to see dislikes??

[@jon3021]

Son del grupo vag

[@skkane]

Previous one, stock, reached like 146 C oil and ~120 C water if I remember it right. Guess it was 25C amb that time? Pretty bad temps for stock and 9C amb.

[@dair919]

The rear wing looks like an afterthought, other than that I think these look great. Entertaining lap 👍

[@nicet73]

Best gearbox of the world ❤

[@vjd222]

Still want to know if you remove the rain guard from the hood vent (like your supposed to) before tracking? Seems like it would make a big difference, but nobody ever mentions it when they talk about their track temps

[@Xchax3]

I have to mention from the FL5 Nurburgring record judgment by many others: I don't understand the animosity of the few people who say it's cheating. And here's why: For reference, the record set before the FL5 was by the "Renault Megane RS Trophy R" and no one cared when that one “wasn’t stock” and released in limited numbers (about 500) for homologation purposes (If you could call it that). Basically to say: "We released this version to the public, so the record stands". Meanwhile, Honda comes out with the FL5 Type R “S” (also releases it in limited quantities to the public) and everyone calls it cheating… As far as I’m concerned, Renault started with the “not stock” record. And making the Type R "S" version the stock Type R (as in: the one sold as the ONLY Civic Type R available) would be too bare bones for most buyers to bare with no comfort for the normal road. As it is a race car version with many items/functions of comfort stripped and a different gearing that is not suitable for street driving. It's kind of like a double-edged sword: damned if you do, damned if you don't. Not to mention, lots of FL5 owners are switching to the Integra Type S's ADS because they find the ride to be too stiff. So the FL5 broke the record. But I still see people calling it cheating. It makes no sense. P.S. Any change made to the original design of a mass produced car, is a change nonetheless. Meaning that we could argue about what should be considered the record holder. But the reality is that *both* corporations released these in limited quantities. The inconsistency in gearing that I mentioned is based on a video by Misha and several others stating that it's definitely different. But the fact remains: *Both* of these are not mass produced cars... where is the arbitrary limit to what can be considered stock and not stock? Where and When did Honda say it was "stock"? It's clear that there were assumptions made. The basis of the Type R S existing based on an FB group is laughable at the least. There could have been far less than what Renault made. But they couldn't beat the FK8 without tweaking their car. And the same happened with the FL5 Type R S after the Trophy R pushed the goal further. And the cycle will continue. I'm starting to understand why there's so many debates on lap times at the Nürburgring: especially, due to European bias. Which is clear. I remember seeing judgement on the price point in the comments of several videos about the Mustang GTD vs Porsche's RS options currently and in the past on Misha's and other car videos. The consensus on my comment is here regardless of Misha's siding and European bias shown by un-liking/hearting my comment after I mentioned said "European bias". That's disappointing. But what's kind of funny is watching everyone grasp for straws below.

[@FreestylerAlbert]

Ohh so in the type R you can complain the gearing was changed and in the ECU target NM was modified. (because there the ecu target NM NOT the boost). But for some reason in the Megan RS the gearing is the same. How weird right? (you can compare it feel free people done it already) Also the FK2,FK8,FL5 gearing 1-6 is the same as the FL5 so people not complain in the FK2 but complain in the FL5 what a weird thing. (The FK8 have a 3% shorter final gear) So sayn it's not suitable for road usage is a freakin lie because not just in this case but all other cases the manufacturers doesn't change the gearing just for the nüburgring laptime. Show me !!!!1!!!! one single type RS. because in the facebook group in the FL5 group there is 0. (I'm member of the group) We got the official paper from Honda of the type RS and you can't order it. Even when you place order it's rejected. I can send you the official Honda paper (with price) of it. Do you need it? Even as Honda owner (DC2, SK2, NSX) I found it shame what honda done, freakin shame. Cheating with the laptime. And everyone know the overheating of the FK8 FL5 and (less FK2s). Honda know it too, did they done anything to fix that in the FL5 ? Nope. They changed the water pump pulley to transfer more water and that's all, and still not fixed. I mean we're speaking about Honda.... what the heck is happpening at them. I'm also open to see what Renault done and you call it cheating. Tell me.

[@allan2k195]

With all the megane RS versions is a trophy R model so you could say it was made for the record but it was also made for consumers to buy and use almost spacificly for the circuit :)

[@duress8801]

the megane was stock because it was possible to buy the same car that broke the record and did it in a legit way, the civic was factory modified and wasnt avaible for the public to buy with the gearbox and ecu tune being different then in the stock civic if honda could beat the renault team with the civic staying stock they would have done it, but alas here we are

[@Instarentner]

@@FreestylerAlbertsame with their Motorcycles! In every racing class, MotoGP or superbike aso they are not good! In Superbike, their team is developing their bikes.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

lol europeans getting this upset over which fwd shopping cart posts the fastest laptime around a track. enjoy your $90k renaults

[@dmfd123]

Perfect upgrades. That car rocks!

[@Blinkydabill]

Great car, great driving

[@jaksacurepic1635]

Nice lap !👍

[@ENGBriseB]

Great drive Misha Great car.

[@EvoBeard]

That thing is like Fast Forward mode, epic lap.

[@hdavey72]

This guy is a real driver

[@PressurenFlames]

Sppedy Japanese Smurf 😉 Hopefully we get to see a version with 400+ hp and a similar setup 👌

[@antonispetrou4472]

Amazing!!! Mate, have Misha sign your car on the hood!!! You never gonna see it turning faster than this!!!

[@NoLimitSquad]

Whenever I run this on gt7, it handles the ring like a 🏆

[@guillermoyelamo5816]

GR Yaris FTW! But Misha better driver 😂 good video dude!

[@EF_Kevis]

Can’t wait to take my type R to the track

[@Scheltokeeper]

The FL5 looks awesome in blue! 🤗

[@RWL2012]

even with that instrument screen the "traction control off" indicator displays instead of the odometer lol

[@Mamerto.]

Misha please get to drive that 8 series CSI please do!! 🔥

[@Porkycheun]

The stars did align indeed... 😎😎

[@RWL2012]

haha I even checked out the song lol

[@isoufacker]

7:31 read the traffic , you know... great advice!

[@bamboosho0t]

🎶 _Push it to the limit! Walk along the razor's edge!_ _But don't look down, just keep your head, or you'll be finished!_ 🎶

[@SjplayinCODMO]

Misha, u fkin quick bro❤

[@AudreyH48]

That FL5 chassis looked planted. Really impressed with the drive.

[@hornet9192]

At 8:08 that was no matter forget to downshift because its a turbo . Almost enough torque at 4000 rpm

[@MONEQ.]

Im big fan Honda cars! nice lab bro.

[@AxM2012]

This car like magic when turn corner I cant belief how the diff its work❤

[@eliesercarrero4523]

This video comes out after I just crashed mine 2 days ago😭😭In the same spec as well. So much pain. Hopefully it gets fixed.

[@ROVA00]

Why’d you crash it?

[@avgnfannn]

Nice one Tony!

[@NEWNATURE777]

It's mostly because of the headifold design(overheating problem). It absorbs just too much heat from the exhaust gases. Honda always underestimated the rejected heat of this engine.🤔

[@NEWNATURE777]

I think the turbo is a huge contributor. Larger turbo and a less restrictive exhaust would likely completely eliminate the issue.😀

[@ShaiyanHossain]

the coolant runs through too many loops on the stock car. also the turbo inlet goes right over the turbo as well which leads to high IATs when you push it hard

[@NEWNATURE777]

@@ShaiyanHossain 👍

[@barandas5225]

those rims are nice touch btw

[@bluegold5186]

Been waiting for this one

[@samwes1065]

It’s a great car but it’s badly missing the classic Honda scream

[@guillaumegonzalez3513]

💖💖💖 FL5, the Best Sport Car in the World...

[@Miicho]

I don’t see the traction light blinking, you didn’t do the pedal dance. Turning traction fully off saves the pads in the rear since the car will use the rear to oversteer (or so I’ve heard)

[@ruikazane5123]

It looks like it just turns in! Is the hazard flash on deceleration a feature of some sort? Very nice!

[@zerri08]

Depends it's emergency stop. If u break hard hazards come on, almost all new cars have it it's a way to alert the drivers beind u

[@nomiss6674]

@@zerri08 If you brake super hard,yes..but these came on on medium braking aswell...

[@Greg-k4j]

Stars will align x Kygo appeared to be up next on the sound system!!

[@RWL2012]

I had to check it out lol

[@JaeToy]

Great Car. Great Lap

[@BeFreeBeHappyJC]

Awesome driving love this track race it daily sim racing that is

[@brothaman1312]

same, although i am admittedly not great at it (tend to do better on small tracks, but the 'ring is far more exhilarating)

[@ricksanchez8295]

Civic na torze i Misha ma banana od uch do ucha 😆💪💪

[@E63s_Scott]

128 oil temps on a cold day is still very high that’s m156 6.2 high and that thing has the smallest oil cooler vs engine size in history limo mode was 130! You’d think a sporty track focused R would keep them 108-115 range

[@WhyTravis]

Dumb question, do all the type Rs have that shift light? That’s sick if so

[@ISOLATICN1]

fk8 had a better one and it didnt make this dumb ass noise when you came near red line lol.

[@jimmyvu7533]

@@ISOLATICN1you can turn it off

[@30hours51]

@@ISOLATICN1fk8 does not have a better one 🤣

[@Xchax3]

@@ISOLATICN1 The FK8 had a screen showing shift lights. The FL5 has actual shift lights 🤣

[@ISOLATICN1]

@ explains why the dash looks shit then

[@paulstack2431]

It's fine for its intended purpose of being a fun vehicle for the road ' if you want to track any road vehicle I'd advise oil cooler' and upgrade the radiator like a smart person would 😉

[@JLneonhug]

Casual Sunday drive it looks like 😅

[@hooviedoovie5220]

Were you rev matching or was auto rev match on? Does the auto rev match work well for track driving in the Type R? My iMT in my corolla is fine for daily driving but it sucks for spirited or track driving. And the pedals suck for Rev matching manually too.

[@toyotacorollaae86l]

Is it me o the flywheel for this new Type R seems to feel a little bit heavy with some rev hanging? Any opinions?

[@barhydttyler]

Brand new civic tyoe R did about the same speed as the 3uz swapped is300.. thats pretty good for an old toyota... esspecially for a stanced out toyota with no ABS that isnt even set up properly.

[@Dane-p8s]

What’s has been modified or upgraded ? The water and oil temp much better

[@TheMuddatrucker]

Once upon a time, there used to be small lightweight fast hatchback, called a civic type r. It cost around £16,500 and was fkin fantastic! Now we have this to replace it 😢😢😢

[@victorwilks88]

Very fast but so soft conpared to the golden era Honda's

[@MrIrish1]

I seen a black FL5 and it looked great. Made me want one. Former k20 dc2 owner.

[@LITTEULCEVENN]

That CSI 🔥

[@H1GHD3FF]

Looks comfortable

[@icsunonove72]

That's 7:45-ish BTG with some traffic slowdowns, no bad.

[@ISOLATICN1]

no

[@Kingkong-bn6sl]

That speedometer is anoying,but good run good car,best driver 💯😎