Misogyny and Racism in Disney Star Wars: A Compilation of Fan's Complaints | Video Essay Analysis

In this video essay, I searched every online forum I could find and gathered every semi-credible complaint that fans have levied against the Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy. Join me for an in-depth analysis of the very subtle anti-feminist and racist undertones that the films contain, despite being promoted as positive portrayals of female and minority characters. (old vid, sorry for the poor audio)
UPDATE 5/12/20
There is a ton I wish I had done differently in making this, primarily, not showing my sources, which makes this entire video just look like one guy's opinion. Yes, I included personal opinions I didn't read elsewhere, but most of this video is a compilation of many people's complaints, not just my own. I will do better with future content, making sure I show sources and how they support my theories.
Sources:
#1 Source: / saltierthancrait
(this sub gets a lot of hate but they've been calling out the racism/sexism in the ST for years. Yes, it's an annoyingly salty place but they have been on the side of equality since the beginning, yet been attacked and labeled as racist misogynists.…....sound familiar?)
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racial stereotypes in Hollywood that exactly fit our star wars characters:
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[@DarthdYT]

Edit 1: Apologies to John Boyega for referring to him as "African American". He loses the accent so flawlessly I completely forgot he was British. Edit 2: There is a ton I wish I had done differently in making this, primarily, not showing my sources, which makes this entire video just look like one guy's opinion. Yes, I included personal opinions I didn't read elsewhere, but most of this video is a compilation of many people's complaints, not just my own. I will do better with future content, making sure I show sources and how they support my theories. Intro & review of filmmaking technique 1:00-7:59 Finn 8:00 Phasma 16:53 Leia 19:08 Maz 28:11 Rose 30:20 Poe 33:59 Holdo 35:11 Rey 43:46 Misc 1:05:11 R1 1:43:32 extras 1:51:17 Where you finally subscribed 1:52:44 Remember: I'm a tiny channel, less than 500 subs. NO ONE will see this if you don't help share it, and help begin the discussion of how Hollywood needs to change.

[@bhd7721]

To be honest if JJAdams and John and Daisy were against Kylo and Rey together romantically than why didn't they just had George Lucas add them as brother and sister liked It was for Luke and Leia and had Rey get together romantically with Finn romantically like they did with Leia to get together romantically with Han instead of Luke? Lucasfilm is so racist that they can't see two people that deserve to be together romantically no matter what color the man or woman is in this movie, tv show, tv movie, or any other movie directed by George Lucas or anyone white or black. Lucasfilm doesn't care how much Finn and Rey had chemistry together romantically in Force Awakening and not put them together romantically in the Rise of the Skywalker.

[@kingjerrodthelion]

I don't know what to think of this video, I didn't even know this video existed until you were mentioned briefly on EFAP, I want to like you, but I'm not sure, I went through your video nodding my head in agreement, than you say something that's not quite correct, such as stormtroopers being clones, baby Yoda being more powerful than Rey (which was laughable) and saying all men might be secretly sexist at the end of video, like I said, I want to like you, me and you have a lot in common, I'm a fan of Xena, Voyager, Battlestar Galactica and Dark Matter as well, so you were hitting all my right spots, I just think you were a bit silly in some parts, though I agree with your sentiment about proper equality, not this woky Disney bullshit equality they like to preach.

[@DarthdYT]

@@kingjerrodthelion I'm sure there's much that I said that could be proven to be incorrect, and some people in the comments have corrected me on one or two things, but for the most part I'd stand behind what I've said if you'd like to discuss anything specific.

[@kingjerrodthelion]

Sorry it took me awhile, I was bit busy during the day and I was very tired last night and the night before. I read through the entire comment section before making this message, and quite a few people brought up the clones aren't troopers thing, so I probably should of read the comments first before making the same criticism, I'll admit. However, I don't think anyone brought up baby Yoda, and the reason I say you are wrong about him being more powerful than Rey, is because she is the epitome of a Mary Sue, to the point the name should be changed to Rey Palpatine, while baby Yoda on the other hand is not, not yet anyway, when he lift's the Mudhorn to save the Mandalorian, he is knocked out for a entire day, now that doesn't excuse the laziness of not explaining how a infant! Of Yoda's species can be that powerful, other than, oh, Yoda is extremely powerful in the Force, so there by Yoda's entire race is as well, it's not good, but it's better than any explanation for Rey, even the Palpatine bloodline excuse. Another note, I do apologise if you think I presumed any motivations on your part, when I commented on you saying all white men probably have biases, in regards to how they portray women and people of certain ethnicities in media, at the end of your video, but maybe not say all! If you don't want anyone ascribe any motivations to you, also maybe not use the Bechdel test if you want to be taken seriously, as for any other criticisms I might have, I think everyone else has covered them already, and I don't think I'll be subscribing until I watched all your content, and if you continue to make great videos, nothing personal, just picky and paranoid when it comes to I subscribed to, I do wish you the best though.

[@DarthdYT]

@@kingjerrodthelion you summed up my thoughts on Rey very nicely, and as far as baby Yoda, yes I acknowledge he's different, but the reason I dislike him is that's he's a confirmation of how Disney is re-defining the Force. I'll be covering that in a video before long. Thanks and I wish you the best as well ✌️

[@killgriffinnow]

Under Geroge Lucas, the most famous black Star Wars character was a powerful Jedi Master who was the only person in the whole Saga AND EU who was capable of straight up beating Palpatine in a lightsaber duel. Under Disney, the most famous black Star Wars character is a bumbling comic relief who only exists to be laughed at and humiliated. So much for "progressive" Disney.

[@DarthdYT]

Especially in the books, Mace is amazing. Finn had some amazing potential too, very sad it wasn't realized.

[@CruelestChris]

Um, but the most famous black Star Wars character is Lando Calrissian, not Mace Windu. Who if anything is even better, given we meet him as a self-made man in charge of an important mining colony and ends up a Rebel General and the guy who destroys the second Death Star. Plus he's the coolest guy ever.

[@DarthdYT]

@@CruelestChris great point about Lando working hard to build his business and how respectable that is. It probably just depends on which trilogy you grew up with though, Mace means a lot more to me as well because I feel I spent more time with him through the films and novels than I did Lando. Not that Lando isn't cool too.

[@DarthdYT]

@Peter Lewis no clue what you're referring to, mind elaborating?

[@CynicallyObnoxious]

Also he wasnt really a combat trooper he was a janitor

[@Tomzo711]

Finn should have been a pacifist. That was the logical character arch for him. He doesn't want to hurt people in the resistance but he doesn't want to hurt the people he was raised with. His growth should have been realizing that without action his new friends who he sides with will die without his aid and the only way to save his brothers and sisters is to end the conflict.

[@DarthdYT]

That's actually a video I've got in editing right now, analyzing his character and how wasted his backstory was. I actually lean the other way, I think the best story would have been having he and Rey being very "evil" but over the trilogy they turn good; so it rhymes with Anakin's turn in the prequels.

[@Tomzo711]

@@DarthdYT that also would have been good. Pretty much anything would have been better for his character other than side lined comedy relief.

[@DarthdYT]

@@Tomzo711 same with Rey honestly. I did a long video about how wasted her character was; honestly once you really break down her backstory I think she's one of the most wasted characters of all time.

[@dontcare2782]

Finn was supposed to be the main protagonist, but they switched it for some reason

[@Shrilaraune]

I think the growing hatred in Finn for the first order was REALLY interesting and would have been amazing to explore. Especially when I think about the fact that he was a kidnapped slave beholden to largely white masters. The allegory would have been incredible. Especially if they managed to handle the other characters within the orbit of that narrative. Who am I kidding. Too risqué for Disney *

[@pac-man2907]

There's a reason why John Boyega was absolutely done with Disney. It was almost nothing but "shuck and jive" for his character throughout the trilogy -- and only got worse.

[@Dr.Oofers]

Oof

[@justaghostinthesea]

He deserves the world

[@williamhamilton1154]

He did so well with what they gave him in TFA. He his character had so much potential.

[@FriedFreezer]

He has also said that he was monumentally pissed at Disney for basically doing a bait and switch to the Black community by staging his as a main character and then backtracking and making him flimsy and sidelining him

[@Row_of_E]

The Sequel Trilogy is like that one person with just the wrong vibe. They make this odd choice every now and then and say those things that could be interpreted as kinda mean, but you never call them out because it always feels like nitpicking. You don't actively hate them but you'll never choose their presence. They're a walking red flag

[@DarthdYT]

wow...that's exactly it. It's so under the surface it's always hard to put a finger on "why I didn't like that scene", and you're right, that description is spot on👍

[@killgriffinnow]

I miss Asajj Ventress. She was a complex, badass female character who actually had some truly epic and heroic moments. Now we just have awful, garbage stereotypes like Rey which we're apparently "sexist" if we don't like.

[@DarthdYT]

Ditto, she was awesome, really wished the films had been able to include her too.

[@wormwood861]

Mara Jade is gone forever...😰

[@DarthdYT]

@@wormwood861 the novels are still there and she's just as awesome as when we first met her. The EU will always be canon in my book.

[@SaviorCross]

Fact!

[@SardonicJosh]

@@wormwood861 I hope Dave Filoni makes her canon again and retcons Rey.

[@JohnDoe-zt2co]

Poe Dameron is no longer hot shot brave pilot but Latino drug man.

[@DarthdYT]

On the one hand, I feel like we shouldn't read too much into that, since Han was a spice smuggler too so it's not like it's a rare thing, but on the other hand, it turns into a Latino stereotype that was very easily avoided. There's actually a lot of Poe's character in RoS that didn't feel right, like, he killed dozens of fighters singlehandedly in TFA/TLJ but I don't remember him getting a single kill in RoS (really just a cheap way of making the fleet arriving more impactful)

[@ChupeTTe]

The space mexican switched to Dune in order to deal with spice in SW. Jar Jar Abrams at work

[@Skinkledorf]

I gotta be honest I thought that the fact that stormtroopers in the OT weren’t clones was common knowledge

[@DarthdYT]

I've heard a few compelling arguments, but the problem is, we have 2 films dealing with the fact that "Stormtroopers" are clones grown on Kamino. We have no explanation in any film of clones not being used anymore. I'd always assumed the troopers in the OT were just recruits, but now I have to assume they're still clones based on the films themselves at least. (side note: the problem wasn't the Clone thing, the problem was Disney intentionally causing and then ignoring the racism talk)

[@spearfisherman308]

it was mentioned in battlefront 2 that after a clone rebellion they used different sources for the clone troopers except the 501st legion.

[@CruelestChris]

@@spearfisherman308 Please never correct that typo. Edit: dammit, he did. Post above used to say "clown rebellion."

[@DemonKing-oi4jd]

You are ignoring the fact that storm troopers in the ot were introduced first, and they were different sizes and voices. They were introduced as anything but clones. You can't watch them chronologically then say they weren't explained better...

[@CruelestChris]

@@DemonKing-oi4jd Yeah, but one could argue that might only prove that the Stormtroopers being clones was a retcon that contradicted the old films (the Prequels have no shortage of those). We didn't know of any event that could have got rid of the Clone army between the Prequels and the OT, or any origin of a new set of Stormtroopers in that time.

[@billmcdermott9647]

I think what they did to Hux was disgusting. He’s suffered terrible emotional and physical abuse as a kid and they show him on screen being brutalized and play it for comedy

[@DarthdYT]

I've not heard anything about his backstory, that's terrible 😔

[@billmcdermott9647]

@@DarthdYT yes so much potential as a character

[@virgogaming6488]

@BK Beatty I think JJ created Pryde to replace Hux because Rian treated the character like a joke in TLJ.

[@riverskipworth2657]

Pride wasn’t related to him. He was created indeed cuz Hux was ruined in tlj. If Johnson didn’t turn him into a joke, he might have done the things Pride did in tros. Nobody planned anything in this trilogy.

[@billmcdermott9647]

@@riverskipworth2657 agreed

[@aguy9771]

I never actually heard the backlash of a black stormtrooper until now. I'm pretty sure that in the OT stormtroopers were never clones, only during the clone wars.

[@DarthdYT]

Really the media painted as a bigger deal than it was. People just posted "why is the stormtrooper black?" and the media turned it into a racist controversy. And I'm not sure of anything in the movies or their novelizations that says the OT stormtroopers aren't still clones, especially since Disney axed most of the EU, we know very little. The most logical conclusion is that clones are still in use because we had an entire movie devoted to their creation and not a single mention of them ever being replaced.

[@aguy9771]

@@DarthdYT Yea, I don't think is explicitly stated, but didn't Luke want to apply to the Imperial Academy at first? That would lead me to assume that the army is comprised of volunteers, like real life, unlike clones. Also, while not in the original movies, Ezra infiltrates the Academy when he poses as a stormtrooper cadet.

[@DarthdYT]

@@aguy9771 I'll admit I'm not positive, but I always assumed the academy Luke spoke of was just "college", not the actual military. Plus he said he always dreamt of up being up there fighting with Biggs, so I don't think he ever wanted to be an Imperial. I'm not at all up to speed on the current TV shows, and I could accept if they addressed the clone issue there, BUT...the clones were such a HUGE part of the story, ending their story arc needs to be explicitly and thoroughly addressed, not something "possibly hinted at since Ezra might have passed as a recruit". Which just leads me back to my original conclusion: the main films show all Troopers are clones and never show otherwise until ep7. Additionally, at the very least, the average audience would still expect clones, because even if some comic, TV show, or novel explained them away, if it's not in a main film, the average moviegoer doesn't know about it.

[@TheNthMouse]

In the original film, most if not all of the stormtroopers speak with distinct voices. The Scout Trooper that speaks in RotJ also has a distinct voice. It's one of the major continuity issues that the Prequels have.

[@DarthdYT]

@@TheNthMouse I agree with the practicality of that interpretation, the voices do indicate they're not clones, but at the same time for total story continuity I'm more inclined to ignore the voices, we had 2 movies focused on the clones and 0 story focused on the clones not being used in the ST. And even if the TV shows/comics did cover it, I'd still have the same issue, because the general public only knows the films.

[@Charles-e4x]

Honestly, the whole bit about young women finding Rei and Kylo's interactions to be romantic, as well as the writers encouraging it saddens me. Whether or not it was all intentional, a movie trilogy that was touted as "progressive" only potentially helped cultivate another generation of women ripe for abuse, as well as a generation of people in general who are insecure about their sexuality.

[@DarthdYT]

Agreed, that single aspect alone should have alarm bells ringing for people. I couldn't believe how many people idolized their relationship.

[@MelonTartVA]

Agreed. FinnXRey was far healthier.

[@Deriv44]

It nothing new 50 shades of grey and that 365 days movies got the same mess up relationship about a powerful bad boy seducing a woman with his wealth and power with the help of the fact she sexualy inexperienced and starting her life in the real world in Anastasia for 50 shades or have successful women be kidnap by a good looking powerful rich mafia Don to make her fall in love with him so Star wars sequel trilogy are taking a woman in Rey that never really had any real personal relationship that also has a lot of potential with her connection to the force not fall for Finn who care for her and try to treat her well but the good looking, white powerful bad boy Sith lord Kylo Ren who mind rape her after kidnapping her

[@xAy3x]

Reminds me of the Southpark episode with the Disney boy band and the purity rings.

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

​ @Deriv44 Because female submission natural? Ironically, I have a femdom fetish myself, but I can also face hard biological reality. Fleeing into fantasy realms is what creationists do. - Adûnâi

[@Sergeant_Camacho]

The first time I saw Force Awakens, when Finn was drinking the same water of that pig-creature, I cringed. I don't know why people laughed, it was insulting to the character. Finn should have been a badass ex-Stormtrooper but they decided to make him a clown.

[@DarthdYT]

I mean, John plays physical comedy very well, it was enjoyable to watch. It just didn't feel at all right for the franchise.

[@Sergeant_Camacho]

@@DarthdYT Yeah, Boyega is a great actor, there is no doubt about that. The only thing I complain is that he was supposed to be a Stormtrooper that never knew anything but just to obey orders and kill. Being the comical relief character don't make any sense. He should have been a cold-killer stoic badass. Great video by the way and Merry Xmas!

[@DarthdYT]

@@Sergeant_Camacho Thanks so much! Just finishing up another one to release as a Christmas present tomorrow 😅. Hope you have a great one!

[@Sergeant_Camacho]

@@DarthdYT Keep the good work, bro! And your takes are on point! Happy Holidays!

[@billmcdermott9647]

@@DarthdYT he was originally going to be more cold and fearsome but they told him not to play it that way

[@mariopantoja8259]

There was something that bothered me about the Disney trilogy. It felt like a troll. It is subtle but the movie distracts you with the rapid fire b.s. cgi effects that the more you think about it ..the more it insults you.

[@DarthdYT]

It's really interesting how many potential issues you can find, this video was probably only a fraction of them.

[@jedilittlebee]

Disney stuck it to George Lucas in every way. Palpatine really won. The sith’s, MarySue of a character,, granddaughter became the chosen one that ended up balancing the force and then, as if that wasn’t enough , she highjacked Luke and Anakin’s last name. The coup de grace!

[@ForzaMara]

Rian did say women were teaching men in the movie because "mansplaining" and women need to listened to because everything that comes out of our mouths is pure gold. Unfortunately this creates another anti feminist depiction of the women running around after the men serving their needs, not them serving ours. The other is women should never be questioned because how dare you hold our actions up to the same scrutiny as men, lest they be exposed as terrible all along.

[@DarthdYT]

That last sentence...👍👏👏

[@etsequentia6765]

Kind of a roundabout way of saying feminism is anti-male sexism and an irrational hostility to any male human. Which it certainly is.

[@IshtarNike]

​@@etsequentia6765 lol no it isn't and you missed the point. Same way that saying black civil rights movements are anti-white because of the existence of Malcolm X. It's purposely tarring the entire movement with a broad brush because of the existence of extremists.

[@LilacSreya]

@@etsequentia6765THAT is the meaning you got from op’s comment? Sheesh. You guys will make up and project anything at this point. 🙄

[@etsequentia6765]

@@LilacSreya All I said was the truth. The factual truth regarding your feminist ideology, and it remains the ugly truth no matter how much you try to block, suppress, repress, belittle, diminish, mock or ignore it. What I said might have triggered and intimidated you, threatening your very identity which you substituted for fanatic feminist belief, but it's true nonetheless. You are left to deal with the consequences. Yes, your feminism *IS* anti-male sexism and an irrational hostility to any male human. Your feminism has no moral right to exist. Maybe you girls would be in a position to try to deny it if you weren't so stupid as to advertise your built-in misandry to the entire world, systematically and publicly. A little too late for denial now. I love how you think your clumsy gaslighting is somehow enough to make me ignore the feminist hate industry targeting men and boys. I love how I'm supposed to shut up about prominent feminists openly advocating for cancellation of men's social status, for the removal of all men's basic human, civil and legal rights, for enforced curfew on all men, for mass incarceration for all men, for mass castration for all men and of course - your feminism *final solution* to the male problem - killallmen. If that makes your feminist ideology sound like nazis, it's because you are. Your ideology is openly and brazenly the female supremacist version of the nazis, with men substituting for the Jews. That based on the words of your greatest feminist luminaries and icons. Your psychotic verbal, emotional, psychological and physical violence against the male half of humanity is undeniable. It's something you need to answer to. It's something you refuse to answer to and you pretend does not exist. But they're not the problem. *YOU* are the problem. You and every other feminist who couldn't be bothered to raise as much as a finger to kick open misandrists out of your so called "equality feminism." You didn't make it clear misandrists have no place in feminism. Your failure to do that speaks volumes. It clearly states YOU AGREE with open hatred of human beings because of their sex. It means your ideology *IS* a sexist, misandrist hate ideology that has no place in modern civil society and belongs in the trash heap of history. You had your chance to show the rest of the world feminism is what you claim it is - devoid of any sexism and fighting against sexual injustice. You had your chance and you blew it. You have only yourself to blame.

[@Yellowshirtmann]

I love when people call someone sexist or a racist because they didnt like the sequels. Like yeah ok or we just prefer well written and developed characters but hey I guess Ahsoka being my current favorite star wars character and Mace Windu being my favorite childhood Jedi growing up means im a racist/sexist. I wanted Finn to be a Jedi really bad after TFA but they reduced his character to the tag along side character that screams "Reyyyyyyyyyy!" 24/7 and I would've loved to see Rey with a well written story but she wasnt interesting and never failed at anything she was just good at everything and it made it boring and sad to watch, thats just really shitty writing. No/bad character development ruined so many good things the TFA tried to set up and it was all cast aside. The sequel trilogy is objectively bad no matter what way you try to bend it or make it make sense in your mind but it had potential.

[@DarthdYT]

It definitely had potential, like my idea of Finn being a "Forcetrooper", which would tie in his story with nearly every character so much better than what they did.

[@totalawesomeness2310]

I know it's a year but there are even archetypical storylines they could have thrown the trio into that would have been much better than what we got: Finn could have been like a mixed Jedi and Resistance trooper as suggested in the video, while Rey could have actually been forced to come to terms with the fact her granddad is the Star Wars equivalent of Satan, which would have told a much greater story of independence and personal empowerment than the woke shit they shoved in there. Poe probably got the closest to the arc he needed, which was the 'hotshot soldier gets humbled then rises through the ranks again,' but, we don't talk about anything that happened in the travesty called Episode IX... As for Kylo... the best character of the lot, but that's not saying much, well, just erase EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT CREEPY FUCKING SHIP, BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND AND LET IT NEVER BE SEEN AGAIN. His arc was FINE without the fucking KISS at the end, I SERIOUSLY QUESTION THE SANITY OF THE WRITERS WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS FINE. HE IS THE 'VILLAIN'

[@serwinzzalot9989]

We were bamboozled. Just look at all the cosplaying characters. What do black, Latino, Asian kids look up to in the avengers or star wars universe

[@geggy310]

@@totalawesomeness2310 in the Lego game they removed the kiss. Makes the rise of skywalker a little better

[@gingergamer3270]

Aayla Secura and Mace Windu are the best Jedi from the prequels in my opinion

[@figrindantatooine]

Even the aliens are white washed. There are no blue, green, purple etc it's all peachy flesh tones.They coulda kept Finn with the British accent since most of the officers we see in the 1st Order talk like British people but no, they have him talking like a token "Black character" where as Black Panther did their best to not do that.

[@DarthdYT]

Wow, great point about the aliens, I'd never noticed 🤔

[@figrindantatooine]

@@DarthdYT Why couldn't they just use aliens we seen in the Prequels or the best idea yet, have a Star Wars alien as the top character in a show.

[@tristanphillips7275]

“Even the aliens are whitewashed” 🙃 Star Wars literally has every color shape and size alien you could think of. My goodness.. Specifically the colors you mentioned ..

[@hitthefloorhurttheground3263]

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[@HeyMomonia]

Rey can keep her accent but not finn. I always thought it was weird.

[@heintz256]

I always blame the writers for bad scripts instead of the actors for the portrayals.

[@DarthdYT]

I definitely think that is the case here as well, the actors did a fairly good job with what they were given.

[@nathanflinchum1153]

Unironically Adam Drivers performance of Kylo made me genuinely enjoy his specific character, though there were still a good few problems with the character, the performance was well done though

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@nathanflinchum1153That’s what made most of the Force Awakens decent, even it’s poorly done moments (like Han trying to convince Kylo to leave the order like a father son moment even though we never see their past together) were still captivating specifically from the acting alone.

[@DMZZ_DZDM]

With big budget projects like this with big names like this, it's almost never the actor's fault

[@wray2real]

Disney figured they could recreate a Boba Fett type character. Phasma just looked cool and didn't really do anything.

[@DarthdYT]

Yeah, I covered her a bit more in my Finn video, both she and the Knights of Ren could so easily have been amazing.

[@virgogaming6488]

I was disappointed in her character after I saw The Force Awakens and what her role ended up being.

[@linusmota9712]

I mean at least Boba opened the door to the creation of the mandalorians which became the most popular non force related faction in Star Wars. Phasma is just Stormtrooper but chrome plated

[@leonrussell9607]

Boba at least tracked the millennium falcon to bespin

[@occam7382]

I actually had an idea for Phasma in that she could've been the leader of a pro-Imperial New Republic volunterr group, and that when sh*t goes down, she betrays the New Republic o help overthrow it. I'd also throw in that she and Poe had actually fought together before, adding some personal conflict between them, which leads to Poe making an actual reckless screw-up in Episode Xlll that gets someone killed and would set up his arc.

[@Miguelnumbers]

"Many of you will hate the theory I'm presenting and think the evidence is laughable" Not me dude, I just wanna find more reasons to hate the sequel trilogy, It's that simple.

[@Miguelnumbers]

You know, after watching this video I can't help but think that Disney wants us to hate Star Wars intentionally.

[@DarthdYT]

@@Miguelnumbers it really seems that way. Even though I think a ton of this stuff was done unintentionally, they still did intentionally bring down the old heroes to try to make the new ones more popular. No matter the franchise, that's a bad idea.

[@Miguelnumbers]

@@DarthdYT Thank you for agreeing with me and replying back! It's a shame the sequel trilogy can't be retconed, and a shame we are the generation experiencing it. I have no doubt this will go as one of the worst movements a Corporation can do to a Franchise in human history.

[@DarthdYT]

@@Miguelnumbers what I want to help people remember is the franchise still has potential for rebirth. If Disney keeps the right people in charge they could turn SW into something even more amazing than Lucas had ever done. The past movies have been huge disappointments but I'm still hopeful the next series will be worth loving again.

[@JosephQuillen]

Dude same. I always stood up for the prequels, and I found enough reason to enjoy TFA and TLJ but after rise of Skywalker, after the "conclusion" I can only look for reasons to hate this trilogy.

[@Tareltonlives]

After 60 seconds: Yep, you're absolutely right. I actually think Rey weeping and having emotions is a good idea on paper, elevating 8 and 9 over 7, but they don't really have anything to do with the story and the incidents causing her reactions don't make sense. Anakin and Luke whine and cry, but they're from genuinely traumatic experiences. Rey doesn't really do that; her biggest traumas happened at the mind-rape incidents, but she doesn't shed a tear over those. Weeping over Finn's body is perfectly natural, but she just leaves him, creating a character inconsistency. A lot of the time she's weeping over HER ABUSER, or over Luke's angst. She gets angrier at a remote than the people who tortured her. It comes off as not having any real problems. Luke cries when he's told that Darth Vader is his father. Anakin when he's seperated from his mother, when his mother dies and when he realizes he just murdered an entire village, and again after he betrayed all his friends, lied to his wife, murdered children and civilians, and joined an absolutely evil person. Rey mourning Chewie makes sense. Mourning Finn makes sense. But a lot of times she's mourning for no real reason. She's angstier in ROS than she is in TFA, which doesn't make any sense until Chewbacca's apparent death. The only time she's emotionally justified in terms of her actual actions is when she flees Kylo Ren (twice), attacks and rejects him, and flees the revelation that she's a Palpatine. A lot of times she's shown as emotional but it's not for the right reasons, and times when she should be emotional aren't. It's not consistent.

[@DarthdYT]

Great summation. It's also unsettling how she so perfectly fits the stereotype that "women just bounce around from emotion to emotion without knowing why they're feeling what they're feeling". You writing out all those examples really drives the point home.

[@occam7382]

Do characters in Star Wars even cry all that often? Maybe I forgot something, but the only time I've seen a character shed a tear in the original saga is Anakin when he decided to interfere in Palpatine's arrest. Rey by far holds the record for crying in Star Wars, and it will never, ever, EVER be broken.

[@Tareltonlives]

@@occam7382 Luke, Anakin, Leia, Padme, Obi-Wan

[@occam7382]

@@Tareltonlives, okay, now I remember.

[@Mpiewizard]

I’m so late to this video but I remember when they first started claiming that anyone who didn’t like Rey was sexist, misogynistic, every -ist under the sun and thinking…I’m a woman who even looks similar to Daisy Ridley and I don’t relate to or like Rey as a character at all. So many female fans of Star Wars were coming forward saying similar things too and I still don’t understand what they were attempting to achieve with that nonsense.

[@DarthdYT]

That's actually a fascinating topic that I hope to do a video on soon....but we were talking the other day about how the creative team was so left leaning that they legitimately can't accept criticism of a woman without assuming that criticism is coming from hate. Because they're trying to make a story that empowers women and if you're saying they did a bad job in their mind you're arguing with the message and not the delivery. ....or on the other hand, all that backlash may have been a gut reaction from the studios trying to save face by painting anyone critical of the films as someone not worth listening to.

[@etsequentia6765]

But... but... but you're empowered! sit the f*** down, shut the f*** up, and let us empower the shit out of you! gosh, we hate women with internalized misogyny!

[@orenalbertmeisel3127]

I like your theory about how all the controversy and talk in the media about racism and sexism in the fanbase was intentionally manufactured from the beginning by Disney, Lucasfilm and JJ Abrams. I also agree with you that despite the narrative about woke Star Wars, due to poor writing quality the characters in TFA & TLJ reinforce stereotypes of women and people of certain ethnicities, although it was never intended that way

[@DarthdYT]

That's the 2nd part of this theory though: what if it was intentional? At some point there's too much evidence to ignore the possibility women and minorities are being shown this way on purpose.

[@nionashborn7626]

@@DarthdYT Why does it have to be one or the other? We know there are awful people in Hollywood, so who's to say it wasn't created by people nasty enough to mean it working with people incompetent enough not to notice?

[@DarthdYT]

@@nionashborn7626 fair point, could be true.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

The idea that Disney "manufactured" people like Mauler, Nerdrotic, etc. is absurd but I can believe they used it for PR

[@Wackaz]

Intention or not, it shows they don't understand the racial or gender issues they show off about.

[@Mochitachi70]

About Rey being so frequently tortured by men, some international cinemas are already starting to inform about "sensitive scenes". One warning is for epileptic attacks, and the other points at yet another "Rey being tortured by Sith" scene. It really seems intentional at this point.

[@DarthdYT]

I really don't want to believe it is intentional but the evidence continues to point to the contrary.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

It's not as bad as Legend of Korra though.

[@DarthdYT]

@@johannesseyfried7933 I haven't gotten around to watching it yet, how's she treated similarly?

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@DarthdYT Korra gets captured and tortured at least once every Season. In Book One she gets her Bending disabled and captured by the Equalists, while Amon looms over her. He could take away all her Power forever, but doesn't want to do it right now, because it would only turn Korra into a Martyr. He promises however that, once he accomplished his Goal, he WILL destroy. It is an extremely creepy Scene and gives of kinda rapey vibes. Then we have Book 3 where, to disrupt the Reincarnation Cycle forever the Villains chain up Korra in a Cave and inject her with Mercury to poison. We get some uncomfortably long scenes of Korra in pain and hallucinating from the Poison.

[@DarthdYT]

@@johannesseyfried7933 it would be interesting to find a few more examples and compare them all, I wonder how the subtext may be different between characters/scenes/etc

[@johannesseyfried7933]

"This is an incredibly long Video..." *looks at the Time* Nah, it's manageable. I am a MauLer Veteran, I can take long Videos. 😉

[@DarthdYT]

Lol the sad thing is it could easily have been way longer. I ran out of steam, not out of material, same with my hour long analysis of TFA.

[@nickschmidt7663]

If this clownbag had a quarter the talent of MauLer he would be worth the watch, but instead we get the absurd idea that somehow making every moronic evil character a white male and every competent good character a minority is racist.

[@jtparryheb]

@@nickschmidt7663 Wow, it's sad how much you missed the many different points he made in the video

[@loganmansiongames]

I could never finish any of MauLers videos there so long & boring!

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@loganmansiongames Personally, I enjoy them. MauLer has a very nice Voice, so that makes it easy for me to listen to him, even over long Periods of Time.

[@emadSciFi]

Just remembered something! The mental rape scene then Rey falling in love with Kylo. You have a similar set up in a Robert Heinlein novel, 'Friday'. The character, a woman who is a genetically enhanced secret agent named Friday, gets raped in the opening scene then much later on in the story encounters one of her rapists and he says he did it because of hos sexy she is and so apparently its okay, and she doesn't seem to have a problem with this. Part of her training actually involved being okay with rape. You 'feel' that her sexual maturity was at issue here, and that rape was some sort of acceptable graduation party for her, although she's already a very sexually liberated person living in a very sexually liberated future world with sexual communism and group-sex families. Also, Friday is forcefully impregnated at one point in the story (not raped as such but tricked into something through a medical procedure) but decides to keep the baby anyway and is relaxed and cool about it. Any thoughts from the commentators here?!!

[@Spartan3D213]

Worse, "fans(twitter)" encouraged the reylo ship even after the red flags.

[@devinlewis3096]

When tf was Rey raped? Cause I must've missed when that happened lmao 😂

[@emadSciFi]

@@devinlewis3096 Mental rape, in the throne room scene in Last Jedi!!

[@etsequentia6765]

Heinlein also casually depicts intentional degradation, injury and death of male characters by female characters, reaching peak misandry and sexism against men, but I'm guessing that's not the sexism you'd bat an eyelash about.

[@emadSciFi]

@@etsequentia6765 really?! Please tell me where? I'll look into it.

[@evanbao93]

And now we learn that Rey's Force powers are Palpatine's Force powers (with an emphasis on *HIS* power). And Lucasfilm turned the Skywalker Saga into a Dynasty Feud between the Skywalkers and the Palpatines (even though George Lucas intended Darth Sidious to be just a devil on Anakin and Luke's shoulder and very, very dead by the end of ROTJ). And people say making Rey a nobody is actually progressive and not depriving us of a female Skywalker lead. Instead, we get a romance story between a Palpatine and a Solo.

[@DarthdYT]

And that romance story needs to be crushed at every opportunity. Rey falling in love with such a toxic man is not something that should be idolized.

[@evanbao93]

@@DarthdYT Oh John Boyega knows how to roast Reylo on Twitter... twitter.com/JohnBoyega/status/1212090062147637251

[@DarthdYT]

@@evanbao93 lol, yeah, I saw that. He's awesome, hopefully he''ll be speaking out even more now that his contract is up.

[@stevebreedlove9760]

​@@DarthdYT rewatching the prequels with my ten and seven year old daughters, we had to pause some of the "love" scenes between padme and anakin to clarify that his behavior was not okay and that they should never accept that kind of behavior. Just pointing this out to show the red flags and poor choices by female characters is actually central to Star Wars. Even Leia fell for the brash, selfish guy. Nice guys finish last I guess.

[@rachelclark6393]

@@stevebreedlove9760 I think Anakin and padme are actually a great example for this. Not because they're dangerous for young kids to watch but because the story makes you acknowledge the danger and the instability in their relationship. How something so innocent wasn't actually good or innocent at it's roots. It shows both the positive, joyful love between them, but simultaneously shows their selfishness, their lack of foresight, and the emotional immaturity. Especially Anakin's. And of course, it shows everything ending in flames. Literally. As for leia and Han, I think it's interesting their relationship doesn't go anywhere beyond tension and flirting until Han proves he's capable of committing to something and acting beyong his own self-interest. And he does, multiple times in the movies, show that despite his rough upbringing and manners, he's a good person with morals and the ability to prioritize what is right over what works best for him. Han never shows the instability or possessiveness that you see from kylo or Anakin, and also generally doesn't do much murder. You know. In general. So while he comes across as abrasive to modern sensitivities, he s not nearly as toxic as choice as either of them. The issue is pointing out to kids that leia doesn't choose him until he's buckled down and spent time working and showing his commitment to a good cause, taking responsibility, and showing how deeply he cares for her and his friends. That was who he was at the core, so the smuggler thing was not really an issue.

[@wormwood861]

RE Leia at 25:00. When general Patton struck a soldier under his command, it was so (negatively) significant to his career that it had to be included in his biopic highlighting "this is when he fucked up big time". Rian fabricated the same event and played it off as a laugh.

[@DarthdYT]

wow, that's fascinating, I wish I'd known to include that. Thanks for the TIL!

[@YvesDarbouze]

As an African American who has felt gaslighted by Disney with the Sequel films…. Thank you. This was EXCELLENT!

[@DarthdYT]

You're welcome :)

[@DemonicRemption]

@YvesDarbouze From on African American to another, I'm curious... How did you get gas-lit by Iger and Kennedy with the sequels?

[@mikegray-wt2gu]

Crickets😂😂😂🤣btw i can say am...pick one...

[@BitigoBlack]

​@@DemonicRemptiondid you not see the ads for TFA? The talk about Finn being a jedi was ALL over the place. Then to have that sidelined....and then to have Finn sidelined was just....ughh. Thank you China, I guess.

[@maxb935]

So Holdo is aTsundere...? Rey likes a abuser ? Great role models.

[@DarthdYT]

Never heard that word before, but yeah, that fits Holdo pretty well.

[@gachagav_gc]

@@DarthdYT it's a popular anime term to describe a woman who acts harsh, abusive, etc. to the MC. They always say degrading things like "you're a pervert" and hit or kick the MC, just for the sake of "comedy" but everyone loves them when they confess to the MC or something. Personally, I hate all tsundere characters

[@DarthdYT]

@@gachagav_gc I'm sure they could have their purpose in a story as an antagonist. Feels weird to have that as a main love interest though. Might harken back to the "make fun of/bully the person you actually like" temperament of younger kids.

[@bodega294]

and in TROS we have Jannah the black female who was also an ex slave, dressed like a wild woman straight from the jungle and paired with Finn to show that interracial relationships should not exist.

[@DarthdYT]

Ironic it kinda seemed that's what Rose was for. Although TFA definitely set up Finn and Rey, I'm honestly shocked JJ didn't revert to that. Makes me wonder if I may actually be right about a higher power dictating story decisions.

[@S2GUnit]

@@DarthdYT They would never have made Rey be with Finn because of China.

[@DarthdYT]

@@S2GUnit can't believe they bend over so far for that market, although maybe the franchise is bigger over there than I expect...

[@casualvanilla]

@@DarthdYT No, no, no. Star Wars is very unpopular in China. Mainly because China's big introduction to the franchise was the sequel trilogy (films that keep referring back to the original trilogy, which China has no heavy nostalgia for). Disney keeps trying to pander to that country because it provides a lot of box office sales. Even if it meant film budgets getting a bit lower, I'd prefer if big companies stopped trying to appeal to China. When are they going to learn that that country does not like us? American-made films shouldn't have to be constructed around Chinese standards.

[@DarthdYT]

@@casualvanilla you know...that leads to a pretty interesting idea: SW is a global sensation, should it stay US based? What if they had split production so each nation had their own film version in their own language with their national actors that appealed to their specific culture? Each film could have a better budget because they wouldn't be trying to pander to everyone in the world at once.

[@freedomsglory1]

I’m 15mins in and you’re talking about Finn. All I can think of is “how diverse” the walking dead was, just don’t get attached to the black guy.

[@DarthdYT]

It is a standard trope in films that the black guy dies first, but I never watched TWD much past season 1 so I'm not sure how they handled diversity, I do remember the black woman with the sword was pretty awesome.

[@freedomsglory1]

Darth'd it’s a thing that continues though season 5. Introduce a new black guy, dies some time that season, rinse and repeat.

[@SaviorCross]

Great point, I totally missed how many times she said that she wanted to go back home to wait for her parents, and her wishes are ignored each time.

[@DarthdYT]

Everything she asks is basically ignored. Like she says she's uncomfortable and asks kylo to put on a shirt and he doesn't even acknowledge her discomfort or her request, he just stands there and forces her to look.

[@mallninja9805]

"She cries more than any other lead character in any other film" _Samwise Gamgee has entered the chat_

[@DarthdYT]

lol fair point. Although I do think that was the point of his character, to have his emotions pretty close to the top. I don't recall Frodo crying nearly as often although he obviously experienced many of the same emotions. Regardless, we'd also have to examine the situations each character was in; for instance Sam cried when his best friend abandoned him, believing a virtual stranger instead.....while Rey cried because the man who abducted her, tied her up, mentally "molested" her, verbally and physically assaulted her...she cried because that man(basically) asked her to marry him and deep down she wanted to take his hand. There's a lot of other examples, but the subtext of why they're crying is pretty important in depicting to the audience whether this moment of "emotional weakness" is actually something to be admired.

[@arxyn809]

60 second pitch was great, earned my 2 hours and a like.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks!

[@kurtiswacko]

Agreed

[@maxhodge7149]

Ye same

[@jackmitchelles2646]

I never thought Finn would work as a character but when I actually saw the force awakens I was immediately attached to his character and I’m so disappointed that he couldn’t get better treatment on screen

[@DarthdYT]

It really is a shame. If you haven't seen it, I did an entire video on Finn. I think with his backstory potential he could have been one of the most interesting characters ever written. Same with Rey.

[@ElveeKaye]

I was hoping for a romance between him and Rey, but of course, there's NO WAY Disney would allow that to happen! They were trying to appeal to the Chinese audience, and the Chinese don't like black people in their movies, let alone a relationship between a black man and a white woman. Even in a galaxy far, far away, that sort of thing is frowned upon, apparently. Disney even removed him from Chinese posters. John Boyega deserved better treatment.

[@YvesDarbouze]

They didn’t just make Finn a nothing character, they used every racist black character in sci fi movies trope available. Finn was a masterclass in marginalization.

[@gman7497]

@ElveeKaye Weird that a romance between a white and black person was considered a no-go but the implied romance with Rose, an Asian character and Finn was seen as ok, even though it was quickly disposed of by JJ in TRoS. In the end China still didn't care about Star Wars, they never have really. Idk who Disney thought they were pandering to.

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@gman7497Hollywood and any industry will bend over backwards for China, always for a *slight* droplet of the money they can earn. They should just stop since it never works out, and China’s demands are so strict that it just isn’t worth it unless you’re willing to work on the Chinese release *awhile after* the initial one.

[@optimize0]

I like to think that the Leia hair line was a joke between Mark and Carrie both being critical of how insane the sequel trilogy had become lol.

[@RRzombie632]

Only thing that ever pissed me off about Finn was that he should have been the second protagonist next to Rey, not a side character.

[@DarthdYT]

Yeah it really looks like he was written that way originally. Would have been better for he and Rey to have the dyad bond I think.

[@JuggyBohab]

so i gotta say this was fascinating to listen to and illustrated a lot of the problems with these movies and rey specifically as a character. i have to lean on coincidence. i just don't think someone like rian johnson is smart enough to embed all these messages and symbols in the movie intentionally. i think it was subconscious. more often then not people like him that screech the loudest about feminism is the most misogynistic. i mean look at how many outspoken male feminists there were during gamergate that were all later revealed to have issues against women ranging from sexual harrassment to stalking to actual rape in some cases. i think he stood on a soapbox and proclaimed love for women but let all these things bleed out in his work because that's who he really is. but again i can't say it was intentional because i don't feel he's smart enough for that.

[@DarthdYT]

This. This comment is exactly what I wanted to see happen and you're the first out of 50 to make it. The "WHY" is what is important to discuss going forward, it's obvious there are problems but few people want to delve deeply into the why. And I agree with you on all points but...just to be devils advocate: IF this was a conspiracy it's crossing multiple films with multiple directors. That means the decisions (may be) coming from someone much higher up.

[@JuggyBohab]

@@DarthdYT i'm all for a good conspiracy theory and this does have the making of one. IF it is from the top it would have to involve the writers as well. it would be interesting to see who has writing credits and what else they worked on. could be a thematic or dialogue pattern with them. maybe an influence or two by producers as far as framing shots go. like i said i don't feel rian johnson is some cinematic genius to do this on purpose. i honestly feel that this is either subconscious on his part or he's so easily swayed on the set he's just a meat puppet following marching orders from the mouse. IF it is some effort to push down women and minorities he could be so dim he's easily manipulated to reframe shots or add symbolism even he doesn't notice. realistically i just can't see this being a tactic knowingly carried out by the higher ups, producers, writers, and director. that's too many moving parts and in this 'look at me' virtue signalling world we're in someone would open their mouths on twitter. i'll agree it's all too much going on to be coincidence. something had to steer this in the direction it took. i mean you did almost 2 hours on it. 2 hours is not happenstance. i feel "someone" has a vision and they influenced this movie. it's just who's a willing participant to drive this rather obvious narrative and who's a puppet too dumb to realize they're going for a ride.

[@DarthdYT]

@@JuggyBohab beautifully said, again you've summed up my thought process exactly. And to add a point, the only reason this is 2 hours is because I ran out of steam, there was easily more evidence I could have covered, I was deleting lesser evidence by the paragraph towards the end just wanting to be done.

[@JuggyBohab]

@@DarthdYT well even still i said before it was fascinating to listen to. many things were already on my mind but you've turned me on to a ton of different things i didn't even realize. you definitely earned a sub for this one. i'm gonna start diving into your other stuff after this. great work.

[@DarthdYT]

@@JuggyBohab thanks for the kind words my friend ✌️

[@MrJole777]

Subbed. What you could also call out is that a nuclear family is also now a sin at least in Hollywood/Star Wars. Luke had a child with his wife, The solos had 3 Children and both were happy families for a while, until the Jacen incident. Destroying the Skywalker's one by one and undermine their legacy is so disgusting.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks JL! And great point about the families, I hadn't considered it from that angle.

[@senatorsheevpalpatine3712]

I agree, but Luke’s family is not canon

[@rachelclark6393]

​@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 Maybe not, but it should have been. It really, really should have been. They had such a huge budget and such a clean slate. They should have used so much more of the good material they already had and less of their new, completely underdeveloped, and flat ideas.

[@alfrickarun4192]

I really appreciate this video because as a leftist these were some of my initial thoughts. Idk if you are leftist/feminist but this trilogy always felt like a sexist role playing as a feminist. It is full of stereotypes which are so well documented in literature. So when people labeled this trilogy as leftist, it never sat right with me. This was a joke to any feminist. I, however, am not sure about the more conspiratorial elements in your analysis. That, Disney purposefully created outrage to push an agenda. I think the direction and editing was done with unknowing sexism. It was poorly written and went back to old tropes to write characters, especially the rape trope which you often find in old sitcoms and movies. Other than that it was a pretty good video.

[@DarthdYT]

Your penultimate paragraph summed up my conclusion; the entire video I was posing the question "do you think this was intentional or an accident", and I definitely lean towards accident due to internal bias. Although some things have to have been conscious decisions, like not addressing the "black stormtrooper controversy".

[@emadSciFi]

Just realised something about the Holdo character. She's meant to be the mother superior type, the snooty nosed type that can't stand to be questioned by her underlings, seeing them as being like tempestous children who should just blindly trust her maternal authority. I'd watched an annoying TV series once in Egypt and you had a scene where a woman was berating her junky husband and would you know it, she was standing up while he was sitting down, she was surprisingly tall and had a big nose, and she 'smiles' whenever yelling at her husband, when she's supposed to be angry, and talk in this moralistic, self-righteous way like 'this is what'll happen to you if you don;t eat your greens'! Even so, its done in a racist way since the person she berates for being over emotional is Latin (Poe, and that's despite the fact that he respects Holdo from her reputation from a previous battle) and I'd say Laura Dern is portrayed almost in an anti-Semitic way, with the snooty nosed image. I've concluded now that Rose Tico is picked on and belittled, probably because they had to put in an Asian character to get the Chinese audience. Even when she runs across a bridge you find her 'ambling' which is hardly athletic and soldierily and decisive, and poor Finn, his case speaks for itself. I think the reason they didn;t let him sacrifice himself is that they couldn;t let a man be brave. Watch 'Solo', a disgraceful movie, where Val sacrifices herself during the train heist, and for nothing - for money, not principles. The rest of the time men are put down, for being deadbeat dads or being neutered ('clipped') then you get the ultimate traitor being Qira!! And there is some racist imagery there too, with the British bad guy - who is portrayed as effeminate - and has goons working for him who are apes (monkey see, monkey do).

[@emadSciFi]

Thanks! Honestly, I've seen lots and lots of of incredible videos about the new trilogy but this one is the most interesting and eye-opening. Keep up the good work.

[@elmeromogollon]

Finn deserved to be the jedi.

[@DarthdYT]

Apparently he was supposed to be proven force sensitive in RoS, but that scene got cut. Can't imagine how Boyega must feel if he was cast with the promise of being a Jedi only to be used as comedy relief and side plots.

[@alexwhitehead7725]

Sorry but he in no way deserved the force, no way at all, not even a tiny bit

[@DarthdYT]

@Michael Hewitt-Clarke I recently finished an entire video about Finn's wasted potential, you should check it out :)

[@arhael3594]

He deserved jack shit. Horribly made character from get go.

[@DarthdYT]

@@inevitable2485 yeah, I recently uploaded an entire video on him, talking about how they could have made him a force-user being used by the First Order. Could have been such a cool storyline....

[@cfrepublic]

Just a note, that its been well established prior to Disney's aquisition that Stormtroopers were actually a mix of Fett clones, Spartii clones, and regular conscripts. It was an explination to retcon the different heights and voices seen in the original trilogy

[@DarthdYT]

Hey Liam :) I've got a long copypasta for this because it gets brought up so much but... Go ask some random people if the troopers are still clones. I did it at work and they all looked at me in confusion. If the films don't cover a major plot point, the majority of the audience won't know. This topic wasn't talking about the diehard fans who know all the EU. Basically everyone I know is a big SW fan but none (currently) read the books, and only a couple of us watch the animated shows. It's (understandably) biased to assume that just because a percentage of fans know backstory, that everyone knows it. And my larger argument is that the clones were the single biggest plot point of the PT and Lucas failed in properly resolving that arc with the obvious complete destruction of Kamino at the end of ep3 (although that still raises the problem that the films don't address the rapid aging issue, so most of the general audience must logically still assume the troopers are clones) I've talked about this more in other videos but...go directly from the ending of ep3 into ep4. What evidence is there that the Troopers are no longer clones? There's the line from Luke about joining the Academy, BUT, just because they're recruiting, that doesn't fully convey the plot point that "all the clones aged out and are dead". I'd argue that the existence of the clones is the single biggest plot point in the ST, and it didn't get resolved, therefore, the audience is left to assume that Kamino is still active in creating clones, after all, why wouldn't they be? That's why Bad Batch made sure to have an episode where Kamino was destroyed, because from a story perspective, its existence is a gaping plot hole, and interestingly, it's presumed destruction is also a gaping plot whole if not handled correctly. (Ex. many of the old books showed how just a few cloning tanks being hidden could lead to a decent sized army. But either side could have moved the cloning tanks off-world and the cycle of the clone wars would have continued indefinitely)

[@RoaryUK]

It's OBVIOUS why the clones were replaced by regular conscripts, I thought every SW fan knew this lol. Actually it happens for 2 reasons, and doesn't even need to be in the movie to see why. The first reason is the Clones themselves, which, as explained in the Prequels, had accelerated growth so wouldn't last as long as conscripts. The second was to do with the idea of conscription itself, by doing so the Empire believed it would lesson the effect of any uprising against it, and to a certain extent they were right, but in the end they simply underestimated the Rebellion.

[@josesosa3337]

In the past, I have seen movie fans assume that storm troopers are clones as well.

[@071Mccoy]

And then came Ansoka Tano, Bo Katan and Cara Dune to make way for Master Luke Skywalker to save Star Wars... those are real strong women.

[@DarthdYT]

And then the woke people had to get Cara Dune canceled 🙄

[@071Mccoy]

@@DarthdYT I sure that master Favreau will bring her back. That is his job... to make star wars right

[@DarthdYT]

@@071Mccoy 🤞🤞

[@stevebreedlove9760]

I have to disagree. It wasnt any woke people who got carano fired. It was touching the third rail of the holocaust. Thats a big no-no especially considering Disney was built by antisemitism.

[@maverick9473]

Bro that was more interesting and informative than the last jedi and it was the same length

[@DarthdYT]

Favorite comment this week, thanks! And be sure to check out my most recent video on Rey's character arc, I definitely think it's my best yet.

[@wray2real]

Finn was basically portrayed as a runaway slave.

[@DarthdYT]

Huh..... Can't believe I've never heard that before, that's too accurate 😳

[@DarthdYT]

@@lucasoheyze4597 dang, wish I'd seen someone point that out when I was putting together this video... Actually..isn't the only other escaped stormtrooper we meet also black? 🤔

[@virgogaming6488]

Also hes named by the guy he escapes with.

[@stevebreedlove9760]

👀 this never even crossed my mind but is spot on.

[@craigusselman546]

We are sexist for roasting Rians crappy battle scenes-while he wanted HoLdo to wear a tight dress wow

[@DarthdYT]

I understand his intention, but yeah..if he's going to make her feminine form literally part of the story setting, it's not wrong for us to talk about it too.

[@TPoynt100]

I think the big takeaway is that George Lucas was more progressive when he wasn’t trying to than Disney was when they were overtly trying to.

[@DarthdYT]

Lol I love how consice yet accurate that is 👍👍

[@WhoWeBe-ro]

I don’t believe they were overtly trying .... just people with an agenda that they haven’t even thought out .... remember that Disney is wealthy white males & that obviously means that is the final lense that it will go through & believe that wealthy makes them as biased as anything else & the more wealth one has the more they become the smallest minority - the one percent.

[@WhoWeBe-ro]

Personally I am offended that the absolute primary focus of actors (especially young-adult actors) is that they are attractive & fit .... this is absolute BS in all media .... if you are doing a show set in New York then absolutely take what percentage of each group of people & have that percentage be reflected on screen, in as many scenes as possible just like if you are doing a show in New Jersey or New Mexico.... find out what percentage of that area is overweight & have that percentage be reflected on screen, in as many scenes as possible. Why are there never any overweight people in gym scenes in films & shows like already fit people are the only ones whom go to gyms get fit. Not all of your friends are attractive because you are a real person & your friends are real people, but yet when studios set out to makes a film/show about real people & real friends they use 100% reel people. Fit & attractive & saving the day .... or sitting in a coffee shop being overly judgy about everything & don’t forget that poor people whom can’t pay their bills still end every day in a bar before returning to an apartment larger & eternally cleaner than yours. All your friends & love interests are fit & attractive & don’t have substance-abuse issues. How discriminatory is it to only use larger character actors for comic relief - why is it okay to put out that message that fat HAS TO equal funny or you have no purpose, no scenes, & in all reel sentiments are either a failure as a fat person & as an entertainer while a fit attractive person can be an entertainer in an genre, but if you are overweight then you HAVE TO provide studios with a reason to consider you as an entertainer. Maybe Hollywoob makes so much money because it is the only thing that helps them work & live in such a hypocriical livelihood. Actors that take terrible roles are to blame & writers that leave very large plot holes are to blame & someone whom improperly prepares food is too blame for your food poisoning .... Hollywoob-types are responsible for poisoning the minds of the too easily influenced just the same. Also anyone whom monetizes a channel that fights capitalism - you are full of absolutely nothing - no substance as every day you wake to a capitalist format where you make your living convincing idiots that you actually wish to wake up every morning & not make a video. If you are really against the evil influence of greed than you would be a hypocrite to not fight against it on your own dime/time.

[@Arander92]

After John Boyega's comments well... let's just say that vindication is pretty damn sweet, isn't it?

[@DarthdYT]

Hearing him finally speak out was pretty great. Although hopefully most people noticed an issue without him having to say it out loud.

[@jacobberry5138]

This popped up in my feed. Watched it. Don’t agree with everything but most of it. Very well said and written. I will now sub. Good form, sir. PS: I was one of the people that thought they did Finn dirty. I mean, a Stormtrooper, kidnapped as a child, raised in the First Order, to be a killer, only to escape because of a guilty conscience. Then! Find out he is force sensitive! That writes itself.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks Jacob :) I didn't totally agree with everything either, but wanted to make a compilation of all the complaints fans had, so if it seemed at least semi-legit, I included it. And I did a super indepth video on Finn that covers exactly what you mentioned: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJWXi36tp62beJI

[@jacobberry5138]

@@DarthdYT Oh damn. Thanks. I’ll check it out.

[@MrBrothasky]

I was so excited for Finn. He was my favorite character in TFA. I honestly thought that he would end up being the main hero of the trilogy. Then they did absolutely nothing of note with him.

[@BullGator-kd6ge]

🤔 The Force Unleashed?

[@MrBrothasky]

@@BullGator-kd6ge changed

[@abes.4040]

I am mixed race, and I have noticed that too. I thought I was the only one who came with this conclusion

[@DarthdYT]

You're not alone Abe, this video was a compilation of many, many people's complaints. I wish I had quoted each person directly to show how many different people felt the same way.

[@mardukmd919]

im asian and the racism of the disney sequels is as nauseating as the virtue signalling. disgusting.

[@invaderIRK1]

Storm troopers were never supposed to be clones, it was only for the first few years during the raise of the empire. Even in legends the clones fell out of service as they got older and were gradually replaced with conscripts. By the end of the empire most storms troopers were conscripts, there were barely any clones still serving.

[@ashuosake2323]

I watched this and shared instead of watching the new film so I can have a real discussion about this. Thank you for your time and the work it took to make this. It is an important video and the kind of video that makes this platform great. Good job. The Force is with you.

[@DarthdYT]

Ashu, comments like yours make the weeks of work all worthwhile. Thanks so much and may the Force be with you my friend.

[@jamesturner1625]

"That's just lazy writing."-- Deadpool

[@DarthdYT]

Lol yeah, probably. But there's a heck of a lot of issues inherent in the writers if so.

[@g_aware_nerd]

You're one of the few creators than criticizes these movies in a very detailed, comprehensive, un-ranty manner. It's feels far more impartial and simply points out what is evident.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks 🙂

[@raymond-reviews]

Thank you, I’ve been saying this to a lot of my friends. I’m Hispanic and I hate the representation in this trilogy. The way they emasculate Poe is god awful. I don’t want this representation. Plus, the disrespect they treat towards Finn, a former Stormtrooper that has been in war, as a joke you would find in a minstrel show is dog shit. I’m tired of minorities being used to make White women look good. It didn’t work for white men, it shouldn’t work well for white women either.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks for this comment Raymond. Knowing this video is connecting with people helps validate the enormous amount of work I put into it. Hopefully if people like you keep speaking out to your friends, enough people will hear the message that things need to change in Hollywood. Thanks for watching my friend.

[@jayl878]

Darth'd on Leia - "Something an actual commander would never do" George S Patton - "hold my beer"

[@DarthdYT]

😅 Yeah I guess there probably is a counter argument for just about everything

[@jayl878]

@@DarthdYT Sorry, I just thought it was funny and I hope you did as well.

[@DarthdYT]

@@jayl878 yeah no worries

[@dinofelis9343]

"Thrawn you magnificent bastard I read your Book!" General Leia Organa Solo, Battle of Kessel 23 ABY

[@DarthdYT]

@@dinofelis9343 😅

[@asxulxetesteronsxez538]

Just finding this now. And while I don’t necessarily agree that each thing was intended, it does remind me of when Marvel said that they didn’t know female led action films could be great successes and that Wonder Woman revealed that to them. But you just have to look back and you’ll find beloved female led action films and beloved black led films. You can even find example of such arrogance that some think they were the first to do a thing when it was done before.

[@DarthdYT]

I don't think hardly any of it was intentional. But that's almost a moot point as the problem still exists, the question is whether it's knowingly malicious sexism/racism or subconscious sexism/racism.

[@RaikenXion]

You called this and Boyega has only just came out with this stuff now.

[@DarthdYT]

A ton of fans have been talking about these issues for years, all I did was research and compile those complaints into a video. Hopefully now that the actors are starting to speak out we'll see more people talk about these issues.

[@VesnaVK]

59:43 Leia was indeed heralded as a revolutionary female adventure character for an enlightened feminist age. I remember. "Someone's got to save our skins." As a feminist teenage girl and convention-going SF fan, I was thrilled!

[@DarthdYT]

Yeah it was hard seeing her go from that to what we got in the Sequels. The few cool scenes she had made little sense.

[@ElveeKaye]

@@DarthdYT Carrie should have been given a role that she could have been proud of, in the last years of her life, but instead died with the burden of this turd of a movie forever in everyone's memories of her.

[@DarthdYT]

@@ElveeKaye thankfully I'm pretty sure she enjoyed the process and getting to act with Mark again. From what I've seen of her I doubt the bad reviews would have bothered her.

[@markcobuzzi826]

I’m just commenting some thoughts as I occasionally watch parts of the video: 5:40 Ironically, if someone in Hollywood is acting as though a character immediately gains the most merit from being of a minority race, the implications are a little racist, whether intended or not. Also, the fact that a minority “representing” character can be damaging, if the portrayal is bad, reminds me of quote that Bishop Barron once cited. I am paraphrasing, but it essentially said “a badly written book about the glory of God is a badly written book”. Replace “book” with “character” and “about the glory of God” with “that is associated with a minority group”, and I think it still holds true.

[@DarthdYT]

Agreed, and I should have focused more on how often they put not just Phasma, but Rose and Holdo center stage in promotions/interviews, just to show their progressiveness, when in reality it was just showing their sexism to think badly written characters are good just because they are female.

[@HolyknightVader999]

I remember when I played old Jedi games like KOTOR and Jedi Academy using female Jedi. I remember how they start out with no Force skills and they had to use guns and swords and other weapons just to get by, how they learned weak, starting Force Powers when they first grasped their lightsabers. I remember playing through whole missions and levels that must have taken like, days, weeks, even months, where my Jedi waifu grows stronger bit by bit through experience, training, and honing their skills, until finally, they become like Starkiller from Force Unleashed or Palpatine from Revenge of the Sith when it comes to power. And of course, they didn't become that powerful on their own, right off the bat-they became that powerful due to training, experience, blood, sweat, and tears. And then I take a good look at how Rey is presented in the Sequels. What an insulting way to introduce female Jedi on the silver screen. As a kid, I fantasized about buying up Lucasfilm one day and bringing my own vision of Star Wars on the screen, with a female Jedi being a main character fighting against, say, SWTOR's Sith Emperor or KOTOR's Darth Malak or something. I imagined how people would react to a female Jedi being the lead for the first time on a major blockbuster SW film. And now, such a dream is dashed into the waves, with the corporate Disney/Hollywood machine utterly botching the very idea of it. But what can I expect from a bunch of "male feminists" who pander to women in the morning while forcing actresses to blow them for favors and roles at night? Harvey Weinstein wasn't an anomaly-he was the standard. He just got caught. But make no mistake-the people in Hollywood are the real racists and sexists here. They accused Lucas of racism against blacks due to Jar Jar Binks, but they treat Finn, their own black character, with less honor and dignity than what Jar Jar eventually got in the Prequels when he became a distinguished general and politician, while Finn got stuck as a sidekick and a source of comedy relief. Lucas' idea of a black hero is either a self-made man like Lando Calrissian who rules his own kingdom in the clouds, or a badass killing machine like Jedi Master Mace Windu, the man who defeated the leader of the Mandalorians (Jango Fett) as well as the Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Sidious. In fair, one-on-one, face-to-face battles, no less. Lucas didn't have any major Asian roles, but he showed respect to Asian influences with his creation of the Jedi and the Sith. Disney took a Vietnamese actress for a main role and tried to use her to pander to Chinese audiences, which is so insulting in so many levels, considering that it looks as if Disney sees all Asians as similar, when the Chinese and the Vietnamese have a long history of hating each other that predates their contact with the white man. It's no wonder that their attempts to create black, Latino, Asian, and female characters come off as insulting to people with brains, especially when in the end, they either didn't earn their power or they act like stereotypes. They didn't have heart when it came to their creations the way me and many other fans and authors in the Expanded Universe had, especially when the latter created good female Jedi like An'ya Kuro, Mara Jade, Bastila Shan, Shaak Ti, Aayla Secura, Adi Gallia, among others. A whole Justice League's worth of female Jedi, and the ones Disney burps out makes people barf at the concept of a female Jedi.

[@DarthdYT]

Wow..I'm going to copy and save all that, especially the video game reference to learning skills hit really strong. Thanks for the great comment and the sub today :)

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@DarthdYT Thanks. As for many of your other comments: That whole rape analogy hits home real hard. I've seen enough to know where that imagery was headed, especially the one where Snoke held Rey up in the air and she screamed as he *ahem* entered her mind. It would have been more honest if, instead of chest-beating about how feminist they were, Disney Lucasfilm just openly told us that they were doing a story on the effects of rape and Stockholm syndrome right off the bat. Some stories I've written have dealt with similar matters, but I've never trumpeted my work as some kind of feminist epic. Stories involving evildoers tying down a strong, female character and forcing themselves onto her aren't evil in themselves, but it definitely doesn't fit with their whole "girl power" talk, especially since they went the extra step and promoted the Kylo-Rey romance subplot in EP IX, meaning that they were doubling down in the abusive relationship started in EPVIII. It's the Fifty Shades of Grey syndrome all over again, where the female audience is made to admire a man who is utterly abusive towards a woman that serves as an audience avatar. And that whole point about Kylo gaslighting Rey into a relationship-sounds very familiar when you consider the kind of environment that Hollywood is. I imagine there's a lot of gaslighting going on in the casting couch where directors and producers remind actresses that they're nothing on their own. The fact that such a disjointed relationship has become what many new fans have as their introduction to romance in the big screen bothers me, as if we're supposed to accept this abusive relationship as something desirable. As I said before, this reeks of Hollywood shenanigans where mostly straight white male directors gaslight young women into accepting a lopsided relationship that leaves the latter in a disadvantage. Is it just my jaded mind that sees all the womb imagery as something that they go for by instinct because they're obsessed with sex? Well, considering how much they tried to shoehorn Rey into literally getting wet for an abuser and a murderer, I shouldn't be surprised. The fact that Rey got everything she had from men really does bother me. As someone who wrote his own female Jedi stories, it really irks me that their first female Jedi didn't accomplish anything on her own. She stole Kylo's training, Anakin's saber, Han Solo's blaster and ship, and her clothes are styled after Luke's. This contrasts again with the female Jedi I played as in the SW Jedi games like Jedi Academy and KOTOR where they let you play as a female Jedi, where the game invites you to shape your female Jedi's lightsaber, powers, training, strengths, looks, etc.. I gave one female Jedi a double-bladed lightsaber and Force Lightning as her specialty, basically turning her into a weird mix of Darth Sidious and Darth Maul, while I gave another female Jedi Force Wave, Force Choke, and improved melee attack strength, essentially making her into the female version of Darth Vader from Force Unleashed. But just because they fought like someone from the movies, doesn't mean they had to nick everything from them, since I had the former dress up as some valley girl with a green Jedi robe over what appears to be yoga pants, while the latter wore a snazzy black Dark Jedi Master robe or a black and red undersuit. They were allowed to come into their own and be their own characters, instead of a God Mode Sue who just nicks everything from past characters and adventurers. And of course, when I write their stories, they don't act like the "emotionally unstable woman" stereotypes, they act as players on the chessboard with their own agenda. Sex and romance is something they engage in on the side, not something they get themselves captured by the bad guys for. They've got their own goals on how they want to shape the galaxy, and being someone else's love doll is something that's at the bottom of their bucket list, considering how there's a whole galaxy to save/conquer.

[@DarthdYT]

@@HolyknightVader999 A. I feel the need to point out I did a terrible job of citing sources; I hope viewers see this as a compilation of many people's complaints, several of which I linked to in the description. B. If I wanted to make a "part 2" I'd use a lot from these two comments of yours, well said.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@DarthdYT Well, you still brought up valid complaints, which is what matters here. I'm looking forward to seeing that Part 2. Thanks.

[@egyptianboy2013]

After reading these conversations here all I have to say is holy shit! This actually hit me deep and is now making me hate the Sequels even further, mainly because of how they turned one of my favorite characters, Finn, into a joke throughout the trilogy. Imagine this: JJ comes up to you and says that you’re gonna be the MAIN star of the trilogy, only for have the rug swept out from underneath you. Finn should have been THE hero’s journey that everyone, especially the next generation, could have looked up to and aspired to be, hell John Boyega could have been the next Chadwick Boseman with a role like that! But nope, Hollywood being Hollywood tells us that our lives don’t even matter and that we are only relegated to advancing our superior’s agenda. It’s absolutely disgusting!

[@AdmiralOctopus]

The complaints about Finn's initial reveal never really made sense to me. Did people really expect to see Jango Fett clones as troopers 50+ years after the end of the Clone Wars?

[@DarthdYT]

I'm not sure, I'm just guessing here, but I'd say...maybe? For 1 big reason: we had 2 films about the clones, exactly what they looked/sounded like, and how they were bred on Kamino. We had zero explanation in any film covering the fact that Kamino was no longer in operation. And really why would you shut down an efficient, tried and tested method of making soldiers who are trained from birth to be perfect soldiers, to instead recruiting "normal" people who get maybe a couple years of training? If one can argue it's logical the Empire stopped using clones, I think it's more logical to argue they'd have fought tooth and nail NOT to stop using them. Edit: also they've got his genes on file, they can keep cloning him forever. This was actually a big oversight on Lucas' part, he needed to address Kamino at the end of ep3, otherwise we have to assume he intentionally left the Clone program running in the OT.

[@AdmiralOctopus]

@@DarthdYT Even with that, the Empire fell after Return of the Jedi. This is 30 years after that, so even with the limited knowledge of the film at the time, surely people would reason that this isn't the same faction, and that they most likely wouldn't have access to the cloning facilities on Kamino. Also throughout the Original Trilogy we see Stormtroopers with different voices and heights. Clearly they're not all Clones. I think the backlash towards it was pretty stupid, tbh.

[@DarthdYT]

@@AdmiralOctopus maybe it was stupid. The thing is, it happened. People were confused, and the issue of the "black stormtrooper" because a fairly widely discussed topic. Theories about the actual plot aside, the point of even brining it up was to analyze Disney's reaction, which was to do nothing and let the racism discussion continue.

[@gman7497]

@Darth'd I have to agree, I mean I watched the OT and I recognized that the stormtroopers were different sizes and sounded slightly different so I assumed they weren't clones and it was never explicitly said they were. In the prequels it was majorly delved into but I don't remember it being explicitly stated that the clones were gotten rid of. In the Clone Wars animated series they go deep into what happens but it can't be assumed that general audiences are fans of that particular series. So yeah, I think at a certain point it needed to be explained definitively.

[@Ankka5]

I want to make one correction 9:50: there was clone troopers in prequels and originals had stormtroopers (which had normal people recruited as soldier and also the surviving clone troopers from clone wars.) And because of clone troopers quick aging all of them would been dead from old age before the force awakening.

[@DarthdYT]

The thing is the average viewer doesn't know that, because the films never covered clone aging or Kamino being destroyed. That's part of the problem, they expect people to know side stories for the main plot to make sense.

[@Ankka5]

@@DarthdYT Yeah that is true. But still more ”hard core” star wars fans would not argue againts black stormtrooper. Still great video mate! 👍Even if some points are bit far fetched. (For me the new thing video showed was the mind rape of rey and now I am more disgusted of those disney fan films.)

[@DarthdYT]

@@Ankka5 yeah, I thought a few were a bit far fetched too, but this was a huge compilation of everyone's complaints and if something was well reasoned and a possible issue I went on and included it.

[@WitchPixel]

Normally I’m not one to watch a video like this because I’m sick of critical theory nitpicking a la Anita Sarkeesian, however, given the controversy of the old fan base being labeled bigots while the studio huffed its own farts about being woke, turning critical theory on this series is a master stroke on showing the hypocrisy of the studio. This analysis has given me a lot to think about when developing my own characters, along with your other videos on Finn and Rey. Thanks for putting your thoughts out here.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks Syren :) And for this particular video there were a ton of different people's input, some of the sources are definitely worth a read. And just finishing up a new video, should be up tomorrow!

[@WitchPixel]

@@DarthdYT I will check them out and look forward to your upcoming videos. Your comedy edits give me a chuckle and I’m excited for your video on Kylo Ren!

[@thalljoben3551]

In my personal opinion, Ruin Johnson personally took the directors chair for the purpose of trolling the fans. I have a deep, seething rage for him. AND NOBODY STILL TALKS ABOUT THE FOOTAGE OF HIM RECORDING DAISY RIDLY WORKING OUT IN LEGGINGS AND A SPORTS BRA ON HIS PERSONAL CELLPHONE

[@DarthdYT]

I think if anything, he intended to surprise people by doing the opposite of what fans would expect. He also seems like an actual nerd and fan of the franchise from the behind the scenes stuff and from scrolling his twitter feed, so I really don't think he bombed the franchise on purpose. I do think his ego massively got in the way, like...two of the lead characters came to him before filming and said they had a problem with the characters and he ignores that? Unbelievable to discount the opinions of people you're literally paying to get into the mind of that character. (also, any source on the cell phone thing? I've tried to find it and I'm coming up blank)

[@MrAjking808]

lol people like you read something on the internet & run with it without fact checking

[@markparkinson6947]

This is a fantastic video, and is not only a great review, but helped me learn so much more about the use of subtext and symbolism in film regarding racism and sexism in film history. What a wonderful video, and am equally wonderful introductory hook.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks Mark :)

[@markparkinson6947]

@@DarthdYT After all that hard work you put in the video, you deserve all the praise, revenue and sub increase you got. So much time and effort should be recognized, and I am glad I contributed to that praise. 👍

[@DarthdYT]

@@markparkinson6947 thanks ❤ I try to put that much effort into all my big videos as often as I can :)

[@markparkinson6947]

@@DarthdYT That’s great! Love your hard work and passion. Just remember to don’t tire yourself too much. 😁👍

[@eziorobetthesecond4776]

Also Finn should have been Reys love interest

[@DarthdYT]

Yeah, that's absolutely what TFA had been setting up.

[@bhd7721]

Exzackly

[@johannesseyfried7933]

To be honest: Finn deserves better. Granted, most Characters in these Movies deserve better, but he especially.

[@rutger7452]

Nah, they had a friendly relationship. FinnPoe is the real deal

[@carlrogge94]

I was fine with Rey having no love interest.

[@momoglo1644]

I've been trying to figure out why all these franchises have been destroyed right before the eyes of their fans. Your theory answers my question. TV shows, movies and other entertainment are used to condition the masses, most often slowly and subliminally. It's honestly no different than how the industry is slowly normalizing pedophilia thru the use of comedy. Thank you for your video. I really hope more people can view it with an open mind, especially people who belong to these fandoms. They are being used as pawns in a game of chess against the public.

[@DarthdYT]

It's interesting, I just addressed that topic briefly in a script I'm finishing up. But it's interesting to research how people are conditioned never to have an open mind as a subconscious self defense mechanism. (I first learned about it from the book Effective Communication Skills by Prof. Dalton Kehoe)

[@ricgeorge21]

Great video. This clearly took you a rediculous amount of time to make. You deserve a larger audience

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks Richard! Yeah, I compiled everyone's complaints I could find, and the script was I think 26 pages or something. Most of my other videos are in the 30min range though.

[@ricgeorge21]

@@DarthdYT that's nuts :) looking forward to watching the rest of your work!

[@urktheturtle2988]

i am glad you learned the diffference between "subliminal" and "subtext" partway through

[@DarthdYT]

Fair enough, although by definition one could define "subtext" by the same definition of "supraliminal" I used, meaning something that most people tend not to notice until it's pointed out. Do you think there is any subtext in these films that is problematic?

[@istrumguitars]

Holy shit can't believe I'm just coming across this video in late 2021. You weren't joking about the algorithms working against content creators. (UPDATE: I had a feeling about this being the ugly truth beforehand, but had no idea the extent of it. You've completely exposed them-great job dude! You should consider an updated version of this investigation comparing the writing in the sequel trilogy to the writing we've gotten from the Filoniverse).

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks for the compliments! Honestly this is a topic I'd be very hesitant to tackle again. It's one thing to make analytical videos pointing out errors in filmmaking/storytelling, but to dedicate so many hours to talking about how the people in charge may be intentionally trying to destroy a franchise you love...is pretty darn depressing. I've actually been trying to make my videos much more sarcastically funny lately just so I don't get too disheartened 😅😞

[@brucejuice350]

Best two hours of my life... this video is much better than the rise of Skywalker. Keep up the good work my friend

[@DarthdYT]

Loving all the great comments, thanks my friend ✌

[@hian]

The idea that film makers, or indeed artists, bake meaning into everything they create is extremely contentious. It very much depends on the work and the style of the artist. It's extremely important to tread carefully when analyzing art and media, specifically because humans are pattern seeking animals that routinely attribute patterns and conscious choices to things that in reality have non. This is why religious people manage to find the face of Jesus on their burnt toast, or why people fall for "mediums" and other quacks who engage in cold-reading and use Barnum Statements to appear as if they can communicate with the dead etc. The impact of subliminal messages is also extremely contentious within psychology. For every study you find that suggests this works, you can find studies that suggests it doesn't. Again, it very much depend on the message, the target of the message and the context of its delivery. Marketing, for example, relies largely on mass-proliferation tactics precisely because the individual function of subliminal messaging is inconsistent and unreliable. Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise probably has no proper background or training in psychology and it's working entirely off of intuition.

[@DarthdYT]

Very solid points. When I originally made this video, I thought taking the "conspiracy" approach would be more engaging, although my personal opinion is it's likely not a conspiracy, but ingrained bias on part of the writers. Because I do think your first paragraph is arguable; we unknowingly have meaning behind all our actions, frequently it's a mental defense mechanism and nothing nefarious, but everything we create does have some deeper meaning, just probably not a consciously conveyed one.

[@Willowy13]

Padme and Lea were rich women who would naturally dress up sometimes to look feminine. The gold bikini, while being veeeery feminine, kind fell away when Lea had to fight Jabba. By the end of New Hope, Lea is fully commited to the actions to destroy the DeathStar. You don't see her mooning over Han Solo leaving because she has more important things to do. Padme was a Queen and while she dressed up while in Naboo with Anakin she changed clothes to functional battle ready ones. Let's not forget that very young Queen Padme was the one to design the diversion so she could get her castle back in Naboo. Neither Padme or Lea will be know for being air heads. Lea was sad Han left, but hey! That's life. Padme last words to Anakin was that he was in path she couldn't follow when she realized how far under the dark side he was. Padme and Lea were strong, independent woman, with things to do that eventually fell in love with characters that changed. One for the bad and one for the best. Rey is character for "modern audiences" which hate the feminine as we have seen by now with men taking over our places. Rey dressed up like a Potato sac so she would have her feminity erased not to upset the modern audiences. Then, Rey is an air head. She is being taking along the ride and has no real investiment in it. Why did Rey accept she was the one to go find Luke? What any of this have to do with her? There is no explanation for her character to be involved in fighting the first order. Poe? Sure! He was the one sent by Lea to get the map to Luke. Finn is a stormstrooper that left the FO after a crisis of conscience. Why did Rey stay??? She could have been dropped of back in Jaku after Han finds the Falcon. And Rey's "love story" is also made for the modern audiences that love the bad boy no matter what he does. Rey fell in love with a dude she knew was a Monster. Would Padme fall for Vader? Rey is a disgrace.

[@DarthdYT]

Fantastic. Saving this.

[@CarterBartram]

The evidence you lay out is certainly compelling. However, I would take great care to not misinterpret incompetence as maliciousness. It can be too easy to ascribe a large trend of problematic-ness like this to a sinister cabal of individuals. But I find that in cases like this, the real cause is more often the underlying system, social pressures, and the fact that most of the people whose decisions matter are far removed from the issues being discussed. I don't think your evidence points toward a deliberate attempt to spread an evil message, but rather an attempt to send a good message that was so poorly understood and executed, that the end result was the same. It's a much harder problem to fix, in my opinion. As hard as it is to find and expose a bigot in power, it can be even harder to convince a huge group of powerful, well-intentioned idiots that what they're doing isn't helping.

[@DarthdYT]

It's interesting, you're at least the 4th person to say something like "why attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence". If we develop that mindset we stop holding people/corporations accountable for their actions because "they didn't do it on purpose". But to address your main point, I obviously failed to properly convey my point. After ever main example I ended with "do you think they did _____ on purpose, or was it an accident". I actually agree with you, as I explicitly stated at the end "I don't think there is any conspiracy, it's far more likely this is just bias bleeding through and it's a bias many of us have". But what I had intended was to create a video that forced people to think and come to their own conclusions about whether they believed it was malice or incompetence.

[@CarterBartram]

@@DarthdYT I agree, and think I understand the point you're trying to make. I'm all for holding people accountable. It's good to call out instances of bigotry when you see them, which this video does brilliantly. If someone's message is this problematic, they should know it. But the point of the malice/incompetence saying isn't that "they didn't do it on purpose"; it's that calling it out isn't enough. It takes a concerted effort to teach people to be able to recognize their own biases, and even more to get them to the point where they can think critically about how their actions and words might convey those biases. If the argument ends with "you're being a bigot," then all that work has to be done by someone else. In my opinion, one of the biggest problems with Star Wars right now is Disney's organizational culture. Calling out problematic decisions won't change much if those decisions are part of the organizational culture. (That said, I doubt Disney's organizational culture is "let's try to harm minorities;" it's probably more along the lines of "let's make obscene amounts of money.") But to affect change at the cultural level, you have to change the minds of most of the people who participate in it.

[@DarthdYT]

@@CarterBartram good explanation, thank you. I had always thought the malice/incompetence saying felt like a brush off: "nothing evil, they're just idiots, ignore them". But I hadn't considered it the way you describe it. Maybe the phrase should become something like: "don't infer malicious intent when it may be subconscious bigotry". Granted that's not catchy enough to ever be repeated...

[@CarterBartram]

@@DarthdYT Well, in my opinion the best weapon against subconscious bigotry is education, and getting people to think about it is a great step in that direction. Maybe I'm jaded, but it feels so much easier and more rewarding to lash out at a perceived enemy than to try to educate them. I wish more people thought about how to go about using the information they get from videos like yours in an effective and positive way.

[@DarthdYT]

@@CarterBartram one problem I've noticed with getting people to more deeply analyze film is that when it comes to entertainment they just want a chance to turn their brain off. Using my coworkers as an example, they'll hyper-analyze the politicians they vote for, the school districts for their kids, etc, but when it comes to video games/tv/film nobody really wants to look at the deeper meanings, they just want something fun for an hour. That's why the numerous plot holes in films these days don't bother a majority of the audience, they're intentionally only there for surface level entertainment. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does leave you vulnerable to be influenced in all the ways this video describes.

[@maverick9473]

At 1:09:03 she achually says 'why you looking at me, HE' s incharge

[@freman007]

The idea that women would vote for a female president just because they saw one on television is terrifying.

[@DarthdYT]

Quite. But then again, film/tv media are some of the most influential things in our current culture so it's also not surprising that we're influenced by fictional portrayals.

[@SerWhiskeyfeet]

1:35:50 the only black character is struck by a lightsaber and he could have been hit anywhere on his body but they chose to have him be struck across the back like a whip

[@Wargulpartal]

> Finn was janitor > droids could do mundane job Make sense... 😑 Heart comes before mind...

[@DarthdYT]

Lol wow, I can't believe I've never heard that comparison. You're right, why in the world would a human be working sanitation when droids exist?

[@Wargulpartal]

@@DarthdYT You know? Mauler in his 'Last Jedi' review, did an observation about child labor, so I noticed patern looking at your review. It is repeatable pattern during whole series. It is comparable somehow to Solo critiques of using trains instead of hover crafts, but I pressume trains may use less energy than hovercrafts for the same cargo weight.

[@Vossenator]

@@DarthdYT perhaps because they are soldiers? I mean being assigned menial tasks like janitorial work when you're not on duty sounds like something a military would do to maintain discipline.

[@stevebreedlove9760]

​@@Vossenator 100% as a veteran this is the correct position. He was obviously an infantryman or even an elite fighter being assigned to Phasma or Kylo. But even elite fighters still gotta mop the barracks and clean their weapons.

[@Vossenator]

@@stevebreedlove9760 Thank you. Quick question, was Admiral Holdo not telling Poe that there was any plan (not necessarily the details but that a plan existed) a normal practice between a higher up and subordinate or just the work of someone writing who knows nothing about military command structure.

[@starwelters9011]

Excellent video. In your anaylsis, however, there are three main characters that you avoided delving in to very deeply: Han, Luke, and Kylo. I suppose you avoided them because there's nothing to be gleaned towards the writers mistreatment of females or visible minorities. Nevertheless, these three are depicted as inept, selfish and cowardly in their own rite. This leads me to believe that the writers were simply clueless as to how to create good characters in general, irrespective of their race and gender...rather that malicious. Anyway. Very well done! You have my sub.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks! And yeah, good point, each of them could have been covered in some way.

[@starwelters9011]

@@DarthdYT This video is so insightful. The more I think about it, the more plausible it seems. I can’t help but wonder if this same phenomenon played a role in the character of Galadriel in The Rings of Power and in She-Hulk. Both those instances seem to be using the same strategies to get the same result.

[@DemonicRemption]

Buddy, you asked for 60 seconds to get the point across of this video, and as a 34 year old black man who became a fan ever since he saw the Death Star trench run around 1997 on t.v. at 8 years of age, you had me in 40 seconds.

[@ssnowbarbiemoone2088]

Thank you for your great effort on this. When I first watched the sequel trilogy I was able to pickup the elements but not this much. It’s must take you a long time to make this and I appreciate your work so much.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks :) The biggest effort was in trying to organize everything. I'd set out to compile ever complaint fans had made against these films and it turned out to be more than I'd expected to find 😅

[@bionic-tale4313]

You know, when you really think about this, I get the feeling that they are doing this because they're afraid of losing power, because of what the backlash of the sequels cause them to lose fans who felt disrespected either by the movies or by the media attacking them.

[@DarthdYT]

Thing is they'd have had way more power if they'd made movies everyone loved. It's weird I just see the motivation..

[@peteg475]

My only beef is you keep calling Boyega "African American". Sorry, but A-A shouldn't just be a synonym for "black" anywhere and everywhere. Boyega's not American.

[@DarthdYT]

Oh, crap, yeah, definitely my bad on that, thanks for pointing that out. He loses his accent so perfectly I totally forgot he wasn't American.😔

[@DarthdYT]

@Bolaji Windapo yeah and I actually love his accent I just completely forgot about it when I was making this

[@dionmarbury]

Rian Johnson has the perfect "punch me" face.

[@WhatsReallyGoingOn84]

I'm kinda confused on this on; not sure if it's a joke, ha...all these intentional things you're pointing out, I thought it was just bad writing.

[@DarthdYT]

That's the big question; were all these examples just bad writing or were they done intentionally? And if it was just bad writing that doesn't let them off the hook, because the problems are still there. There's some good info in the sources section, I compiled a ton of people's opinions for this video, a bunch noticed things I didn't. Like how someone just pointed out the only 2 escaped stormtroopers we see are both black, and are treated like escaped slaves and still called by their slave names.

[@eoris12]

That explosion of the rebel base being destroyed in the shape of Mickey Mouse at 25:46 says it all about how the great D has treated Starwars.

[@DarthdYT]

Wow, I've never seen anyone point that out before

[@annieandelsieofarendelle3294]

Oh before I forget, this how I would write Finn, Phasma, and others First up, Finn. Instead of a janitor, I would write him as a stormtrooper in an elite group of force sensitives where they would practically torture the members to increase their connection to the dark side and kill off members who weren't seen as 'worthy' which caused Finn to experience a lot of PTSD when the main story takes place and trouble keeping the force under control. Because of this and where he came from, he is despised by many members in the New Republic who are at best suspicious of him and at worst wanting him dead. He still maintains his friendship with Poe who was one of the few to see him as a person and not a weapon. Phasma is a loyal soldier who will happily kill anyone not fully dedicated to the cause of the First Order because she had seen the corruption of the New Republic and how many systems were left bankrupt and lawless upon the fall of the Empire leading her to idolize the latter and thinking that if it was still around that order and peace would've endured especially on planets like her homeworld which had fallen into disarray which led to deaths of her entire family at the hands of gang members. Rose, I would've made her a former stormtrooper who starts out completely loyal to the First Order until the death of her sister and her commander's apathy to her death and starts to question if she really is doing the right thing in being on their side or it just being programmed into her mind that she was supposed. In a battle between the First Order and New Republic, she along with a few other stormtroopers were arrested after the latter won and once she's in the hands of the people who she had been told all her life were vile monsters who destroyed the galaxy she finds that they aren't. That they are just people as well which continues to make her question everything she had been taught. For Holdo, I would've made her a senator who survived the destruction of Hosnian Prime who is one of the ones who despises and his suspicious of Finn but openly respects Poe and vice versa for his bravery which becomes the first test for their new friendship. Rey. I would've written her as extremely untrusting and at the start looking out for herself only until she is wrapped up in this adventure which forces her to learn to give her faith in others which she never had due to amenisa and growing up in a hostile environment where nobody cared if you lived her died. As her journey goes on however, she starts opening up and even allowing herself to let her friends in through the wall she had barricaded herself in. I would've also added in the fact that she knows how to pilot due to the Yon Gar Plukk forced her to act as his delivery girl across the planet and delivers materials and supplies to clients, however, preventing her from leaving with a slave chip. As for her Mary Sueness, we are taking a lot of that away. She knows about piloting and technology since she was forced to work on it for so long, however, she is very out of her depth when gunning or using a blaster since she had never been allowed weapons besides her staff. She also would not be able to use most of the force abilities until later and it is shown by pure luck and stealth that she was able to free herself. In the next movie, she does get actual training from Luke who is much less angry and embittered but more heartbroken of how everything turned out and was happy to do anything that might help.

[@DarthdYT]

Love that idea for Holdo. I've actually got a huge video planned for exploring the lost opportunity with Finn/Rey. Imo, they have 2 of the most wasted character arcs in film history. I'll delve into that project before long. After I finish up this current video I'm going to do a few comedy edits and try to start alternating between comedy and video essay.

[@annieandelsieofarendelle3294]

@@DarthdYT First, thank you. And I can't wait to see what that's about because what happened to them was a travesty.

[@jeremymnemonic5226]

Force Troopers.

[@ReconNarwhal]

The stormtrooper argument is fairly weak tbh. We’ve known since the OG trilogy that stormtroopers weren’t clones of one another. The prequels don’t contradict that either. The clone army is merely the precursor to the stormtroopers. They aren’t one in the same.

[@patataeve]

Dude, this should have millions of views. A lot of angry sjws in twitter can't just see Disney is only using them :/ I'm a gay woman, I guess I get minority pass?, and I don't like these movies and agree with you... so... am I only "hating" because I'm racist and problematic? Come on. Disney has always had ulterior motives.

[@DarthdYT]

Thank you! I tried to compile every seemingly legit complaint I could find; figured having them all listed together in video form may be better than spreading them out over multiple forums. I'm now really wishing I'd taken the time to credit all the people who unknowingly contributed, that would have made the whole thing feel way more legit and less "crazy guy ranting".

[@DewarSon]

Jynn not easily leaving her dead father is typical of a person related genetically to a dead/tragically killed person. That coupled with the fact you mentioned of her separation anxiety for her parents, as well as the example her mom gave of standing to support her dad, makes it harder to part. So, she gets the easy pass for having to be dragged away. By far my favorite of the sequels/prequels, so far.

[@DarthdYT]

Agreed. That was an example of a stereotypical weak moment that actually tracked fairly logically from what we saw. I do consistently have an issue with scenes such as these where people's sorrow somehow completely cuts off their own sense of self-preservation (meaning the "having to be dragged away" part). Maybe that's realistic for some people, but the fight or flight response pretty much overpowers emotions, as is (partially) its purpose.

[@DewarSon]

@@DarthdYT .. You nailed it. And she let herself be pulled back to her senses, all the while bawling. Very realistic, when you put yourself in her shoes; she was so close to getting what she wanted most. Motivation for revenge.

[@Tareltonlives]

Maz Kinata embodies the sequels; she had so much hype on paper. Han's friend, a pirate queen, wise and powerful....turns out she just owns a bar and a lightsaber and says "wise" things and then that's it. It's a disgusting waste of Lupita Nyongo. It's even worse with her design-she's "generic alien, only short". The Force Awakens is plagued by horrible production design, and Maz Kinata is example 1, but it's deeper than that; it's a horrible useless character, even more useless than Holdo and Rose. She's Yoda, the bad version. She doesn't teach Rey and Finn and Han anything. "I am no Jedi but I know the Force" How does that make any sense? She's just another mystery box that makes things confusing, another lazy plot device without anything in the way of character or agency. Rose is just like Finn; she starts out very compelling but it's dropped immediately and she goes on to be useless for the rest of the series. Again, the message of the sequels is White Man>White Woman>POC man>POC woman The novels are completely different from the films, it's ridiculous. They're better too To be fair, those other women are background characters. Rose, like Finn and Poe, is played up to be a main character but isn't, at all It's interesting; in TFA Poe is played up to be a major character, the third leg of the trio...and he disappears for half the movie for no reason. It could have fixed the "Rey knows how to fly" plot hole if he had been with Finn. There's a rumor he was actually planned to be killed off. Yes, the first minority character in the film....becomes the second named character to die, about 10 minutes into the film after bringing Finn to Jakku. Knowing Abrams and Disney, that was probably the original idea but they brought him back inexplicably anyway. The problem is, he remains "the guy who flies the X-wing" for the rest of the film, and really plays second fiddle to Rey and Han. TLJ made him a hot-headed idiot whose only successes were at the cost of half the Resistance and still needing Rey to save him at the end. ROS then added the stereotype of him being a womanizing drug dealer, and once again has to be saved by Rey in the final battle. Lovely. In all three films, Poe is only marginally less useless than Finn, having one skill rather than zero. Rey>Latino Guy>Black guy I never liked Poe; he's boring. Oscar Isaacs oozes charm and charisma the same way John Boyega does, but like John he's given a nothing character Holdo is a random and pointless character, introduced randomly, has no consistency, refuses to explain anything even when it's her best interest (JJ Abrams in a purple wig I guess) and then dies. Holdo had more character in a prequel novel about Leia, and that was only because it was based on her Luna-style character. In Rogue One, at least the heroic sacrifices of absolutely everyone built up Luke's triumph. In TLJ, everyone sacrifices for absolutely nothing. Rose and Holdo are so problematic; they are hated by sexist fans because they embody sexist stereotypes. Once again, the sequels try to be progressive but undermine their own messages. It doesn't matter how many women heroes there are when they all enforce stereotypes sexists can latch onto. The sequels didn't defy the racists and sexists; they gave them ammunition And again, bad production design. One of the few pieces of production design that worked in TFA was Leia's pants and vest. Holdo's gown is ugly and impractical. Padme, who usually wears something completely elaborate and impractical, dressed to fit the part. In both battles she participated in, she wore something practical; a longcoat over pants and boots, and a jumpsuit with cape. Holdo flirting with Poe is something that doesnt' fit the script at all. When Padme wore flirty gowns, it was for when she was spending intimate time at a palatial retreat. Why would an admiral flirt with her junior officer in the middle of a life or death battle? And again, it reduces her character to be an appendage of Poe. Excellent point about the women officers. Why weren't they there before? Why did the staff change? Again, this is making a target for sexists Johnson isn't that terrible a filmmaker; I think he was being coy and trying to be clever. Abrams is an inept lazy fanboy, but Johnson is an inflated troll. I didn't know about that change with Laura Dern. I suspect something similar happened with Kelly Tran, John Boyega and Oscar Isaac, being promised a big role but getting switched out in the final script. This can happen with good movies;Christopher Lee was quite cross that the death of Saruman was cut from the theatrical version of Return of the King. This is worse, though, as this is a complete character change, more akin to the Super Mario Brothers cast signing on to a faithful fantasy film before the jarring technopunk rewrite.

[@DarthdYT]

Wow, some great points here. I had never looked that closely at Poe, great writeup regarding him 👍

[@ProjectRedfoot]

The one word I had in my head when Finn was on-screen during TLJ was, "minstrel" ... Sorry if that triggers anyone. It's just the truth. That was when I knew I was done with all of it. [Edit: to say nothing of what they did to literally *every-other character]*

[@DarthdYT]

Yeah, it's pretty weird how they seemed to tear down nearly every character for no reason.

[@jpanduezadlf]

Holdo wasn't brave... She was trying to escape and she was unbelievably unlucky... I mean she had a one in a million chance to have his actions ending up like it did

[@SASLEAD666]

Please keep making these videos. It's very important for white people to see other white people speaking out about wtf is going on with star wars, Disney, and hollywood in general.

[@DarthdYT]

Thanks Kyle :) I actually wish I had taken the time to show how diverse the opinions represented here were. Black people saying they hated Poe, Asains saying they hated Rose, women hating Rey...it'd probably have a bigger impact for the minorities&women to speak vocally about how bad these films were, since the white males like Kylo in the film I identify with were probably the most engaging characters. And I probably won't do a ton of videos like this, it's way too dark a topic and is pretty depressing from a creative energy perspective. The last critique I did I framed as a parody, which was a lot more fun for me.

[@mardukmd919]

you know the fans arent racist when the mandalorian has way more diversity and is universally embraced. the people that made sequels are racist, not the fans.

[@DarthdYT]

It's funny how Mandalorian had a scene with only women storming a ship and I didn't even notice until someone pointed it out. Because their sex wasn't highlighted as a selling point.

[@brotherj7328]

The racism wasn't about "diversity " it was about a black male lead in a very predominantly white male centered franchise, and about pairing that black man with a white female. If Finn was a white man they romance with Rey would have continued apace.

[@BlackShogun1]

Because Disney has given money to a political campaign, that DISCRIMINATES against the LGBTQIA community, I no longer support Disney +, Movies, TV Shows, and Products.

[@Wonder2win]

The TFA Finn and Kylo closeup thing was understandable because they were building up their antagonism that entire movie. Also, Finn was not a supporting character so him being given priority over Rey at times made sense.

[@DarthdYT]

I would be fine with that idea if that's how it actually played out, but after Finn left the FO Kylo never talks about him except to say his "name". The only moment that built up antagonism was with TR8R, which yes, could have been an indication that Kylo felt the same way, except the backstory was that TR8R was in the same squad and that's why he was angry at Finn, because they knew each other. Additionally, who you cut to first is an indication of emotional status: a character dies -->next shot is of their spouse, then their child, then their best friend, then their neighbor who barely knew them. Cutting to Finn first makes it appear that he is the one most emotionally impacted by Han's death. And finally, even if all the scenes with Kylo/Finn were shot properly to convey the building antagonism you describe, that still doesn't explain all the other times when Rey is in the back of the group for no reason.

[@Wonder2win]

@@DarthdYT Finn was one of the most impacted by Han's death because he had just spent way more time with him than Rey did and Han basically mentored him. I would say that as well the fact that he and Kylo had build up since the first scene when they have a stare down on Jakku, justifies him getting the focus in that scene. It doesn't seem like you were paying much attention to Finn and his story. Kylo and Finn were narrative foils throughout the entire movie. Rey doesn't even matter to Kylo until he mind probes her. Also you conveniently leave out all the times prior to the Han death scene where Rey is prioritized over Finn which happens way more than the opposite. If you can make the argument that Finn getting any emphasis over Rey at any time is sexist then would you also say her getting emphasis over him is racist? What about the fact that all the competent fighters, including Rey, are white? Meanwhile Finn, the one black character, who according to canon is supposed to be highly competent isn't. It would only be fair. Also the Maz scene is a bad example because Rey got a whole scene where she is offered the lightsaber that was bigger than Finn's scene with her. It's not like she got no emphasis.

[@DarthdYT]

@@Wonder2win very good points all around. And I'm not "conveniently" leaving anything out; this script was 3x larger than my senior AP English thesis, there's no way I was going to be able to cover this topic without missing a ton, and I'm sure several examples like the ones you point out, are incorrect. But if the audience isn't having the discussion about what is/isn't racist/sexist, acceptable or unacceptable, can we really expect the filmmakers to care? I don't expect anyone to immediately accept this video as fact, I'm hoping people will respond like you and start a discussion about the points they agree or disagree with.