Miss America 1984 - In Context With Original Ads and News Clips After

[@rubylewis865]

Greetings, debunkmates

[@marieskis]

hey Ruby!

[@katiethimons1220]

"This is like when Hilary Swank won an oscar without thanking her stupid husband."

[@jetis878]

Hi there!

[@dvoraksa]

Thank you, listeners to podcast You're Wrong About. You seem cool. Thank you for watching my video many thousands of times.

[@grantjoseph2878]

you probably dont care but does anybody know a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot my account password. I love any help you can give me

[@sammavacaist]

I am so glad that Vanessa Williams kept all the hate mail and death threats she received for being the first black Miss America so she could print it years later in her autobiography.

[@jrubybowman]

My goodness - Vanessa Williams was SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL - and she still is.

[@bryanedney2723]

Before this year, there was never an African American crowned Miss America. Vanessa Williams broke the color barrier. No matter what they said about her to what they did to her, she's the most popular and most famous past winner...with the most "Kick A**" Story. Now she's married to a Gazillionaire!

[@zachhoran]

Lee Meriwether, Bess Myerson, and Gretchen Carlson gained a bit of fame after being Miss America, also

[@pika23]

My mom swears if it was a white girl they wouldn't have said word one,and she'd have kept the crown

[@shannonharrison9240]

@@zachhoran nope. they arent household names.

[@kellydixson9221]

@@pika23 your mom is wrong

[@renegaderunner332]

Phyllis George did as well.

[@Wonderhussy]

Amazing to think Miss America was once disqualified for having nude faux-lesbian photos...meanwhile 30+ years later, the first Lady of the USA had nude faux-lesbian photos! Reminds me of the Virginia Slims ad of the day..."You've come a long way, baby"

[@chunk2596]

Exactly! I agree with you......Those same "conservatives" headed to the polls and voted for a presidential candidate that sleeps with porn stars and supported a first lady that posed for countless nude racy photos!

[@hankrogers8431]

*THANK YOU!*

[@radiolusitanabermuda70]

My Favourite Miss America Proud of you Vanessa Williams

[@DilAbadyi]

I'm here to see the historic moment that Vanessa Williams-- the first black american crowned Miss America. Beautiful memory ❤️

[@dbrown9495]

Quite a lovely pageant that year!!

[@davidseay7790]

i met wanda gayle gettie when she was the maid of cotton whenn she was here in memphis1 she was so beautiful and delightfully personable she made you feel happy and at ease as soon as you met her

[@VTMCompany]

1:12:37 It's a shame Miss Ohio, later 4th runner-up, (and also a former Miss Alabama and 3rd runner-up to Miss USA 1980) had to be burdened with a cord microphone. The next year, contestants were able to use newer technology that saw the mic cord gone.

[@danielhauser1115]

It wouldn't have mattered. That talent was dreadful. Kimberly Boyce should have been in the top 5.

[@randyseay3115]

To this day, Vanessa Williams and Suzette Charles (‘84) and Terry Muessen (‘73) are the best talent presentations in pageant history. They all sang Streisand.

[@williammials6080]

Terry UGGGGGGGH

[@williamverlaber3984]

There is no telling what Terry did with Pat Robertson.

[@jonathangill6584]

How did they make a group of 17-25 yr olds look 40-55?

[@timothyleon558]

She may well have been the one Miss America who stood out from her peers more than any other. She was an overwhelming choice, and rightly so. Judgment itself is such nasty thing, and humans do it so well.

[@VTMCompany]

9:27 Three title holders in a row: Miss New Jersey (Miss America 1984); Miss New Mexico (Miss USA 1984); Miss New York (Miss America 1984).

[@emmarose4234]

THAT’S MAI SHANLEY?! 😭

[@user-hx7mi7ml8u]

This is so goofy compared to today. 😂

[@charlesfranklinlambeth3944]

Very interesting clips...thanks for including the Nightline interviews. Whoever thought that nearly 40 years after the fact, the woman from Penthouse would be making more sense than Tawny and the “feminist”?! The true irony here is that Tawny probably regrets the comments she made at this time as much as Vanessa regrets posing for the pictures she did at that time. As history showed us, the pictures may have indeed made Vanessa more famous than she ever would have been as simply the first Black Miss America...and perhaps the MA pageant proved to be the most infamous party involved by forcing her to resign.

[@Chicoandtheman]

I always wondered how Tawny feels about her comments today. Both Tawny and the feminist woman (but mostly Tawny) seemed so archaic in their thinking. The Penthouse woman was spot on, maybe not at that time, but at the end of the day...she was correct and probably was more a feminist than all of them.

[@gwp5066]

@@Chicoandtheman Tawny's comment didn't even make sense. These former Miss America's love having a microphone in front of them.

[@bryanedney2723]

Good points. Like say all the time, "Tawny WHO?"

[@malcolmmarshall5946]

Miss Missouri went on to Miss USA 1986 but didn't place.

[@zachhoran]

9/17/1983 is the airdate of this pageant

[@alvarofavela2918]

9 days before my birth.

[@reprolover11]

The three woman debate was very interesting to me and shows how far society has come. I must say I didn't really get a sense of sisterhood from what I saw from the former miss americas. Both suzette and tawny were very cut throat. Although I did read somewhere that lee meriwether sent Vanessa an encouraging letter after he scandal

[@lexlib]

I remember seeing a clip of tawny calling vanessa out.

[@liamh6862]

Lee Meriwether is a sweetheart.

[@johnorlando9839]

Interesting since Tawny was also considered controversial with her views on abortion and Marijuana.

[@johnorlando9839]

@@liamh6862 Yes, you could see it that Lee was genuinely happy for Vanessa. Just watch the way she looks at her when congratulating.

[@Harringtonml54]

@@liamh6862 Indeed, she is. I met her when I attended the pageant in 1978 (a friend was Miss Massachusetts) and she could not have been more pleasant, accessible, sincere, and lovely. She was also the thinnest woman I had ever seen!

[@williammaddox3547]

Love Miss America 1984. I don't care that she posed nude. And apparently the Miss America Organization did not care either. The Miss America Organization apologize to her for any harm that the Miss America Organization had caused her and she is now known and will forever be Miss America 1984 and Miss New Jersey will always be the 1st runner up as it should be. Love you Vanessa Williams.

[@BigGene]

Vanessa should have won, but Suzette was the BEST pop singer ever on the Miss A stage. I was there and, at rehearsal when Suzette sang, a very inattentive audience was stunned.

[@paengs.delrosario7804]

Most beautiful and talented batch. Almost all the top 10 could have done very well at Miss USA.

[@timothywilliams9642]

Pamela Rigas (OH) represented AL at Miss USA 1980 and got 3rd Runner Up. Barbara Webster (MO) did compete at Miss USA but did not place.

[@emmarose4234]

Awww, Tawny Godin missed her plane. 🙁

[@liamh6862]

Lol......

[@forestine_]

They couldn't even do a voiceover of what she's doing now! They must have been pissed 😆

[@mk202]

GO FOR IT...!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@malcolmmarshall5946]

I remember reading that Miss New York was the favorite to win.

[@bootheduke]

Good lord...was the theme 'My Mother's Closet' ?

[@tomcatonyoutube]

It’s 1984 hahaha

[@vashtikelly6837]

im so glad nessa showed all them she is a real winner!!!!!

[@vashtikelly6837]

STRATOSPHERE THANKS OR YOUR HEART....PLEASE POST MORE 80S NESSA...OR ANYTHING YOU GOT 80S....VANITY/PRINCE/VANESSA....ANY 80S

[@jaradaniels9289]

Vanessa is the only miss America that actually kept herself going after the pageant. She should not have lost her crown.

[@jrubybowman]

Vanessa Williams has a very very successful acting and singing career she wouldn't have otherwise had - even though they took her crown away - she will always be a queen

[@malcolmmarshall5946]

Phyllis George did pretty good too

[@somewereinwisconsin]

Classy!! Bring it back!!

[@jrubybowman]

yep - Miss Williams really had "IT" soooo much more than the other girls

[@johnorlando9839]

Pamela Rigas had the unfortunate opportunity to compete against two juggernauts: Shawn Weatherly and Vanessa Williams.

[@gwp5066]

And the nose and chin job didn't improve her placement.

[@johnorlando9839]

Yes, at MUSA, when she was called 3RU, several contestants in the back turned their heads to each other in surprise.

[@anjolalayeni5503]

38:24 is so creepy 😭 like these are siblingssss

[@dallastucker2404]

Miss Mississippi should have placed higher, imo, she had a awesome talent and swimsuit. Better than SC for sure.

[@jeromejackson6111]

Never realized how much Suzette Charles looks alot like Halle Berry.

[@HectorRojas-he8g]

WOW,esa mujer es bellísima

[@crowleytancioco4620]

Wow, Lee Meriwether is stunning.

[@jonldavis]

nice words saying it was stripped from her

[@tarakelly8640]

Why does almost everyone want to be in broadcasting or marketing

[@sammavacaist]

That was where the money was in those days.

[@kserial8491]

Where you found those old show?

[@tapiokatajisto9566]

I am sorry to say this but this is not a beauty pageant (doesn't MAO also admit this?). There are some beauties but some of the contestants look older than my mother and mind you my mother was a model in her youth. Vanessa Williams is a beauty though and I love her.

[@gwp5066]

I wonder if the first 9 called were thinking and hoping....maybe, maybe...that beautiful and talented woman from NY won't make the Top 10.

[@cloudanimal5209]

1:44:38 Vanessa Williams on education and also walking in a swimsuit

[@gwp5066]

those interview segments are taken out of context because Vanessa's comment doesn't. quite. make sense. And, geez, Suzette actually used the phrase "world. peace." And Missouri...ugh.

[@JohnSmith-zr1pi]

Wow

[@charleswilliamsjr2095]

Vanessa Williams gave up the 👑 when Suzette Charles won the new miss america and also Vanessa Williams wore a white Swimsuit And clear heels later she was posing in the magazine!

[@cloudanimal5209]

2:01:28 winner

[@greenlantern9577]

Are they robots? No nice elegant sophisticated walks with attitude

[@sophiaglover5589]

Where are all the lesbians?

[@dannycarrington1601]

Trelynda Kerr, Miss Oklahoma, later came out and is married to a woman.

[@BarryCorbett-x9m]

The year the pageant died.