Missing 411, The Sierra Camp Tapes, and Bigfoot | American Folklore

According to David Paulides and the Missing 411: The Hunted documentary, evidence for Bigfoot exists. They don't openly say it, but one can read between the lines of Ron Morehead's comments at the Sierra Camp. In 1972, he and Al Berry recorded what has become known as "the Sierra Camp Tapes", a series of recordings of odd, near human vocalizations high in the mountains. However, unlike most sasquatch "evidence", theirs has passed scientific muster, at least accordin to Dr. R. Lynn Kirlin, formerly of the University of Wyoming.
To be clear, Paulides has never claimed Bigfoot is responsible for those who go missing...but he doesn't seem to have ruled it out either. Perhaps bigfoot actually is the "411" that's missing (411 is another term for information). Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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0:00 - Intro
1:18 - Morgan & Morgan Ad
2:00 - The Sierra Camp Tapes
7:50 - Scientific Analysis of the Tapes
16:30 - Origins of the Bigfoot Legend
18:20 - Teddy Roosevelt's Bigfoot Story
27:07 - Native American Legends
31:31 - The Origins of Sasquatch
43:22 - Outro and Sponsors

[@TheLoreLodge]

If you’re ever injured in an accident, you can check out Morgan & Morgan. Their fee is free unless they win. For more information go to www.wordontheblock.biz/r/1890/86/?s=FOR_THE_PEOPLE

[@TGOB1776]

I never saw a Law Firm sponsor YT videos until this company began recently, and you are the 3rd YTer I have seen with their sponsorship, and all 3 YTers are of very different genres, so weird lol

[@josephmello4517]

Like being hit by a bigfoot? I guess this would cause a default judgment as they would not appear in court.

[@peppersaltsman6044]

Hi Aidan, wish you guys could do a collab with Bob Gymlan (the KZbinr). I find his videos very informative and entertaining. Something to consider! Glad to see the channel thriving

[@peppersaltsman6044]

@@TGOB1776 it's weird because Morgan & Morgan is my local law firm and I have seen their ads on local TV and buses my entire life. So cool to see them advertising on bigfoot videos. Lol. But honestly that's on brand for them, John Morgan is famous for showing up to bars and buying rounds for everyone there. He once said he eats KFC on the treadmill because his wife wanted him to exercise more. The man is a legend

[@bangobob3563]

@Pepper Saltsman omg this would be an amazing collab Bob is so dedicated to his Bigfoot videos

[@grungeisdead8998]

The idea of a grizzly bear walking around your camp bipedal the entire time would be more terrifying than any Bigfoot encounter

[@BelleXJ9]

IKR

[@AngraMango]

Or sleeping in ur tent and hearing something in the dark walk up to ur tent and whisper "im smarter than the average bear"

[@tammyhawk6805]

@@nuxbot919 Was that the poor bear in Asheville, NC? That's why I hate hunters.

[@themedia1271]

Bears can walk on two legs but I've heard they only do it when they're in pain or starving? I can't remember which one

[@edmondgreen7970]

@@tammyhawk6805 the hunter did it a service. A bear isn't meant to live that way and was most likely suffering.

[@VanirTraditionalist]

My favorite “Bigfoot” sighting report was on Cape Cod, in the 90s as I recall. A woman called the police claiming a Bigfoot was climbing into a window of a vacant home in her neighborhood. When police arrived they found a shirtless, hairy Portuguese guy inside who said he was house hunting and checking the place out.

[@leoleboss9414]

As an half Portuguese hairy guy I can relate

[@VanirTraditionalist]

@@leoleboss9414 my mom is half so it’s not racist for me to make fun. Plus I could totally see one of SE Mass portagee relatives doing that.

[@OCFHS]

@@VanirTraditionalist lol

[@jwconstruction9065]

That was a bigfoot talking to the police

[@ms.annthrope415]

A 1911 .45 would help show the guy another house to check out.

[@kayleehog]

I appreciate that things like "I don't know" and "that's not my area of expertise" are common and valid phrases in your explanations at the Lore Lodge. Too often people just say their best guess with confidence and end up spreading misinformation. It also makes you more credible when you do speak with confidence because I know that if your didn't know something for sure you would tell us that.

[@bacongod4967]

Oh jeez give it a break with the “misinformation” bs, sounds like you’re saying they’re out to purposely lie for nefarious reasons instead of them just being keen to express what they think l, even if they didn’t research much beforehand.

[@angiadcock8196]

@@bacongod4967 spreading information that is incorrect is “misinformation” regardless of intent. It is rampant in the true crime and “internet news” communities. I also very much appreciate the lore lodge’s commitment to stating facts, being clear about opinion vs fact and admitting when they don’t know something or made a mistake in a previous report. That takes a lot of work and I for one think we as an audience should recognize that time commitment and integrity rather than dismiss it and excuse others.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

It makes me, someone in-between "wanting to believe" and "skeptical," feel like I'm given all the info; but not being told what to think. (ik, hilariously hypocritical. Skeptic and believer don't belong in the same sentence lol) I lean towards the preternatural, and not supernatural. The idea of incomprehensible things to human brains existing is easier for me to reconcile with my (lacking) faith. *Not Lovecraftian-style* monsters- more like "energy organisms." I *can* believe in those- conceptually. I remember being on a bus leaving school, and randomly thinking "Maybe our consciousness comes from an outside source." Kinda "replacing" religion and it's a cop-out; I know. But I find the idea interesting. I could go on, but this tangent's been crazy already. TL;DR: So do I. It makes someone like me, who *never* watches "paranormal" content; *love* this channel.

[@cameron8679]

​​@@XXMatt0040XX*"maybe our consciousness comes from an outside source and is replacing religion"* DING DING DING DING

[@MegCazalet]

@@bacongod4967You’re describing disinformation, not misinformation.

[@elizabethstanley4541]

you’re never alone no matter how remote you are in the wilderness. If you have lots of experience in the wilderness, you absolutely know the difference between the noises that different creatures make. You’re also acutely aware, if something is addressing its noise towards you. There is no mistaking it.

[@steviechampagne]

When i encountered a sasquatch in 2021, 4 miles up a mountain in the north cascades, the thing i immediately noticed is the footsteps that were following me sounded bipedal. it sounded like a human not a 4 legged animal. They are real, and until you’re actually staring at one face to face , it’s almost impossible to truly know what it feels like.

[@alexhook9151]

Sometimes, people ask me why I know so many diverse wild animal sounds. It's cause I've come too close to each one of them. On accident, of course. I highly respect both, but I don't know what scares me more, bears or cougars.

[@NoName-np8ko]

@@steviechampagne You did not stare a bigfoot face to face.

[@NoName-np8ko]

Thinking you are infallible because you "have lots of experience" is probably the cause of more mistakes among those with experience than anything else. The most experienced pilots still crash planes due to pilot error. You are not Jesus, and neither am I.

[@elizabethstanley4541]

@@NoName-np8ko 😂 you comin on here telling someone else they didn’t see/experience Bigfoot. When your on here as “NoName” BigFoot at least has a name.

[@mattrogersftw]

The Bauwman story is one of the best bigfoot stories of all time. The line "Bauman, that bear is walking on two legs" is infamous.

[@ajaxslamgoody9736]

Thanks that is good...read mine above...creepy and older tale.

[@hiddenwoodsben]

it's really what got me started first on bigfoot and then on forteana in general. there's another line in it, saying something along the line of "who was of german descend and thus saturated with all kinds of ghost&goblin-lore" and i'm not just german but heir from the black forest, where 90% of german para-/supernatural lore come from. gave me a different perspective on stuff i saw, heard and, frankly, felt as a kid playing in the woods.

[@ChadOfAllChads]

Bears walk on two legs all the time. I seen a video where one walked for a solid minute in a half. Which could seem like a really long time if you thought it was a man beast coming towards you. Nothing really weird about that.

[@bowtiegaming0001]

I think this Bigfoot story is on par, if not even better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKHWqKltj81rqck

[@valdivia1234567]

@@ChadOfAllChads Yep, all kinds of easily referenceable examples of bears walking on 2 legs. It seems that's often avoided by people who hang their hats on that.

[@ShekinahGwaii]

My dad and his buddy had nearly the same experience in the Sierras in the 70 s while gold mining, but they both walked out! right down to the bear suspicion, but not quite bear behavior, then noticing the snow tracks were super deep and two legged while their 200 lb selves didn't sink too far. Dad followed the tracks for a while, then realized when the air was quiet, and his neck hair stood up, he got the heck out.

[@juliaconnell]

your dad was wise - always follow your instincts, there for a reason. mine have saved my life a few times (only 'animal' involved were human beings);

[@dr.andallbarrett4749]

The neck hair thing is what happened to me in the Coronado Nat. Forest down in Carr Canyon, AZ. I found footprints, hair in a cave entrance entrance crack, and some 30 odd backpacks ripped where one would hold it to unzip it. Claws must be sharp as hell. The positioning of the location gave a complete view of all the camp areas. ALL. With a cluster of trees to hide him at his vantage point.

[@juliaconnell]

@@dr.andallbarrett4749 wow - scary!!! - curious - did you report it? 30 odd backpacks.. lot of people...

[@ShekinahGwaii]

@@dr.andallbarrett4749 the cedar bark strips hanging from the trees look like Edward Scissorhands has been here. I've seen pics of deer flayed from the middle down, next to no meat left on the bone. I'd say they're sharp and wielded by 6 million year old Ginsu artist, lol

[@dr.andallbarrett4749]

@@juliaconnell I did not. They were just stolen backpacks that probably got blamed on other innocent campers. And at the time I wasn't sure how I felt about exposing the location.Still not sure really I suppose.

[@entrepreneursfinest]

I'm from Louisiana and both myself and nephew have heard knocking in the woods that was very "human sounding" in cadence and manner. I grew up hunting and fishing for years in those woods. I've never seen a track or physically seen anything, but I truly have no good explanation for what I have to tell. Bear in mind that I know all of the natural woodland sounds and can identify several species of woodpecker just by hearing them - so I'm not easily spooked or over imaginative. I work construction on contract jobs and travel. Returning home from a long gig I gathered all of my camping gear quickly and set off walking up into the hills because I was dying for a break and just to do some hunting the next day. I was not very well prepared and it was probably irrational but would not be talked out of going. I set up a quick camp next to a large pond, super foggy that night with heavy dew, and I had a hard time getting a fire going. I almost immediately climbed until my bag and the fire began to die down to coals. Maybe 20 minutes later as I was dozing into sleep I heard a sharp rap,rap,rap, rap. I'm fully awake and listening now. Rap. Pause. Rap, rap, rap, rap. It sounded just like the cadence of someone hammering a nail. Then there was a very large crash of something falling through limbs and brush or similar. Silence for a minute while my heart is beating despite being a 6'4" construction worker and woodsman in his prime 😂. Rap, rap, rap.... rap, rap, rap. Crash of brush again. By now I'm building my fire back up frantically and have my rifle out and side arm. It's so foggy that my flashlight won't go very far and I could almost see better with the dimmer light of the fire. "This is my dad pulling a fast one on me" I was thinking. I called out twice but no answer. I rapped on my gun butt 3 times and it was immediately echoed. Pulled out my cell phone and called mom and dad and mom answered. "Is dad up here screwing with me?" Her: "No son we've been in bed asleep." I didn't believe her. Then I heard dad on the background and my bowels turned liquacious.. I decided that if there were a person out here, 1 in the morning, no light, in a very remote area, knocking on a tree to mess with a dude who had a rifle - they had to be off in the head. That was uncomfortable considering that meth is a thing. The only other option is that it was something inhuman that was out there, yet intelligent enough to copy my pattern of knocking. From the volume of the knocking it was something very large. "Tell dad to get the four wheeler and come get me, I'm on the southeast side of the old gravel wash pond". I stayed and waited on my old man to get there while "it" continued to knock and throw things. Dad finally made it and after the noise of the four-wheeler there was no more knocking. I did record it on my cell phone though and still have it. Nothing special, just knocking. We looked the next day for trees damaged, tracks, or anything. Nothing. Not a sign. The next year within 2 miles of this event, my nephew had a similar experience in the daytime. It followed him knocking so he hid behind a tree but it would not come closer. When he continued on it continued to follow him until he crossed a creek which it appeared to stop at. He was not aware of my experience and I only related it to him after he told me his reason for not hunting alone on that section of creek. Anyway- that's about it. Proves nothing except that something large knocked threateningly at me in the woods on a dark, foggy night in November deep in the woods of Central Louisiana. Any ideas?

[@BareBandSubscription]

Can you upload the video?

[@sanic1085]

Sorry, man. My bad.

[@swipeslogjack_tgaming9472]

The Blue Devil, i know i you're out there ​@@sanic1085

[@ac1dbaths1ut]

especially when he was talking about the height, humans 7ft+ can often struggle with problems, complications or even disabilities because of their height (think joint pain, very high metabolism etc.). finding someone that tall who is human 8,500ft in the mountains because of this is also incredibly unlikely if we consider how they got there and how they’d survive

[@ah-sh9dw]

Yeah, I don't buy it either. Really curious what made those sounds but I dont see any reason it would be a 7 foot tall humanoid. Someone else in the comments said it sounds like a talking seal and bizarrely enough it really does

[@TigerLily61811]

12:40 okay I can understand how they can determine sounds outside the normal human vocal range, but to extrapolate longer vocal cords into height estimates feels like a really big stretch.

[@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532]

@TigerLily61811 I'm not sure it's that much of a stretch but I see what you mean. The line of thinking is "whatever this creature is must have a very similar shape of vocal tract/cords as humans, but for the ranges it's hitting especially on the lower end they have to be much larger in size. If that part of the body is larger, proportionally here's what the height would need to be" Whether it literally has to be proportional is up for debate, but that's my understanding of the logic

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532 I still don't buy it. In humans height doesn't make much of an impact on vocal cord thickness and we have muscles that can manipulate the thickness to get a deeper sound. As someone that loves a good bass-baritone the recording didn't even sound that deep to me. Some of my favourite baritones are really short too. I feel like it would need to be based more on timbre than pitch to get an estimate but even then I just can't imagine it being very precise

[@anon2427]

@@ah-sh9dwnot a 7ft tall human but something adapted to being that size and larger

[@devinjones1527]

Aiden sweetie... lmao "he was found dead and half eaten by a group of prospectors" made me actually stop for a sec... and then I was like OH the prospectors FOUND him half eaten omg.. lmfao 💀

[@mellowwexe]

nah because I NEVER put that together until I read your comment. I just accepted that the prospectors had eaten him and moved on bhsgjkbhvsdjk

[@devinjones1527]

@@mellowwexe sentence structure... the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, or helping your uncle jack off a horse. Lmao

[@TangySapling164]

I am glad I am not the only one that noticed that💀 I was like “whoa that’s metal af”

[@devinjones1527]

@@TangySapling164 thank you, I honestly thought I'd be swamped with comments telling me what bad taste that joke was and I was prepared to be like "ask the prospectors I wouldn't know"

[@drewdrew53]

I totally thought the prospectors ate him too.. Till I read your comment. 😂

[@Tony-rc9jb]

When my mom was a kid, she, her dad, and her brothers used to go on backpacking trips into the rockies. We're talking like, 16 miles out into the wilderness, no trail, no cars, no nothing. And she used to tell me this story about coming across a clearing in a pretty dense aspen grove. She swears up and down the wall that she and her family all instinctively knew not to step into the clearing because "something about it made my skin crawl". So they went around it and camped about half a mile away in a holloway of sorts. The next morning, they found tracks and their camp was pretty trashed, and my mom remembers seeing a footprint of what looked like a bare foot that was around 12-13 inches long. My grandpa was a bastard but the second he saw that, they all got the hell out of there and never went back. I've always wanted to hike back out there, but I'm disabled and in a wheelchair. Maybe one day I'll get my mom to draw a map or something and someone can get out there.

[@hed2410]

It's always "one foot print".

[@chpe2501]

What state? I'd be willing to trek, mattering if it's nearby enough.

[@Tony-rc9jb]

@@chpe2501 Utah, 6-7 miles off the alpine loop

[@cat_eating_sushi9372]

​@Tony-rc9jb where do you enter alpine loop?, brother you have my word as a stranger on the internet with balls and a passion for hiking I will videotape the whole place for you

[@acardenasjr1340]

Electric off road wheelchair, you still got it in you, lets go find that spot.

[@Kel_Larua]

My Bloodhound that was dead asleep in the next room just came out in full alert hunt mode with her big droopy ears even lifted when she heard that recording. I only see her do something remotely like that when a predator or coyote pack is around and it is time to work. Interesting

[@totesmcclutch6953]

There’s a story I heard as to why they were called “stone giants.” It was said they would cover themselves in tree sap or some other natural adhesive compound and would roll around rock creek beds of river banks so the stones stuck to their hair and basically created like a natural armor to stop arrows or provide better protection against spears. All of which were made of stones. The story goes they adopted this strategy after multiple run ins with natives and some of them were mortally wounded or killed, so they figured out a way to shield themselves from their weapons. Just wanted to share!

[@cjones3710]

I heard about this on the show with good old William Jvening himself.

[@CoercedJab]

More of a fun fact than valuable information. If I were you I’d start writing down sources as you come across them… or at the very least try to memorize the name of the tribe or source 💀

[@reeee-nq8re]

Actually didn't mountain monsters did an episode on that abd the giant got shot?

[@Carandini]

Theodore Roosevelt has one other 'weird' experience that is possibly Bigfoot related. He was on an expedition to Washington and both he and his guide heard sounds, vocalizations or screams, ringing out from deeper in the forest that neither of them could identify. Make of that what you will, but I think a man like Roosevelt might not be familiar with ALL the animals in a place new to him like Washington State at that time, but he was experienced enough that he'd be picking a guide who damn sure knew up from down.

[@lindabergman3127]

For sure👍👍

[@salvagemonster3612]

No not true. Buy the book read the real story. He simply recounted a campfire tale he was told.

[@johnnylego807]

A Bigfoot was literally drawn in Louis and Clark’s expedition book, it was recently released by the gov if I recall correctly, only a drawn image, don’t remember if there was a description given , it was in his journal of Animals of North America.

[@eyeopening618]

​@@johnnylego807they're also depicted in the sisteen chapel painting by Micheal Angelo in Rome. Search it.

[@JonGalloway-pu3tk]

He actually hunted for the dogman!! It was in a hunt I. Washington state!! Real shit!!

[@KD0utdoors]

Just got an ad for Dr.Squatch soap in the middle of the vid 10/10 marketing

[@stevengonzales1660]

1972 the beginning of Psy op ping and presidential cucking

[@sugarskull2392]

Scott Nelson, a retired U.S. Navy linguist has studied the Sierra sounds and identified them as a type of language. He has at least one video on KZbin, it's very interesting.

[@TheLoreLodge]

I looked into that, the reason I didn’t include it here is that he isn’t a linguist, but an expert in cyphers

[@brainretardant]

​@KZbinguy118 not if he was a cunning linguist

[@davidmichael9275]

​@brainretardant you're not getting the credit you deserve for this. But it's the youtube comment section. I don't think they get it.

[@jakek09]

Its crazy to think youve only been doing this for 2 years. Your format is so good it seems like youve been doing this a lot longer.

[@misterhat6395]

I saw a guy who was easily 7’6 in Idaho. It was indeed improbable. It was in a restaurant, poor guy looked like Gandalf inside Bilbo Baggins house.

[@tee-roni420]

Lol.Dang,that's huge.I was behind a guy at the bank that was 7ft3in and one time I was behind a guy at the auto parts store that was 7ft 1in like Shaq.Those are just a handful of times I have seen 7ft plus dudes,probably seen a couple dozen in my 40 years that were truly over 7ft.

[@daedalus1453]

@@tee-roni420a couple dozen people over 7 feet??? where the hell do you live?? that’s wild

[@tee-roni420]

@daedalus1453 I'm in South Florida. I believe I was being pretty conservative with the number. The tallest guy I saw was 7 foot 3. Then one time at Advance Auto Parts there was a guy who is 7 FT 1. When I worked at Winn-Dixie there were a couple of guys who came in and their heads were taller than the top of the aisles. Another time I was at Chili's and these two brothers I think walkthrough a six foot eight door frame and they had to duck significantly to get through the door they both were easily over 7 ft. Those are the ones that stick out the most and I come across a lot of people who are 6-6 and up. My neighbor 6 ft 9 and plays basketball professionally. My other neighbor 6 ft 7 and wants to play and one-on-one LOL. When people say I'm tall at six foot one I kind of laugh because it's all perspective. Maybe there's something in the water down here but most likely just where I live is so Multicultural and so overpopulated that I have literally seen people all Races who were giants.

[@susanlett9632]

That's crazy!! Tallest man I ever saw was in Idaho too! Stationed at mountain home AFB year's ago!

[@a-iz4pg]

@@daedalus1453 He lives in Laker Stadium

[@panchora99]

19:28 the way this sentance is structured makes it sound that the hunter was attacked and eaten by the group of local prospectors.

[@pal681118]

Prospectors gotta eat, man!

[@TheHaratashi]

It's sentence not sentance.

[@icarianirafaolan]

"I'm about to say some things that I don't know what they mean" 😂😂😂 that kind of dialogue is part of what I love about these videos. Makes it feel like I'm listening to a friend tell me about their research 10/10

[@Roger-wf8sj]

I live in Minnesota and spend a lot of time in the woods even at night. Many times miles from any residents and certainly likely no other persons were out there too. I've heard noises at night you never hear in the day such as what some describe as tree knocking like someone or something beating on trees with a club. Once I whistle and something/someone whistle back exactly the same sound/way. It was not an echo of myself because I did it again and nothing. I'm positive there was no other person there so was pretty erie.

[@salvagemonster3612]

Sounds more like men’s room at the airport.

[@dogshake]

I was taught to never whistle at night. It gives you away. And by golly, if youre in the woods at night and you hear a whistle, never ever reply. The people or things that go into forests and whistle in the night do not have good intentions, and they’re hoping for someone to call back. If you hear it once, turn everything off, stay where you are and be as quiet as possible. If you hear a whistle over and over, just leave as quietly as possible.

[@Roger-wf8sj]

@@dogshake you're right

[@rathey7999]

​@@dogshakethis just freaked me out. I'll use this info and pass it on to the kids.

[@eric1scooby]

I have never seen a 'bigfoot' but I camp and hike a lot. Once in the Hiawatha National Forest. I was reading a book by a creek at a remote campground (I was the only one there) and something walked up to me, and then started sprinting through the woods. It was so loud and sounded huge. I thought maybe a moose walked up to me and got scared when it saw me. I never got any visuals. I then started walking up the creek, because there were no trails. I'm into herping and plants and was taking many pictures and looking under logs along the way. I came to a bend in the creek and noticed a logging road to my left. I walked to the logging road, took some pictures, then a large rock fell from the canopy to my right with a loud thud on the forest floor. I went to investigate but got super freaked out. I remember grabbing a small stick and walking towards it but was panicking, which is not like me. As I walked back to my camp (just a hammock set up) more rocks were thrown at me, always about 20-30 yards behind me just where I was walking. When I got to my hammock it was starting to get kinda dark. I camped pretty close to the creek, and directly across the creek from me a tree violently fell over. I laid there thinking WTF. Was that a beaver?! What's going on. I slept fine all night. The next day while driving it occurred to me that it might have been a 'bigfoot'. I wish I would have investigated more at the time.

[@g.private9101]

Rock throwing is commonly reported when these beings are around. You were very close to one.

[@SuperWeenieHutJuniors]

And you still slept there? Balls of steel, my friend.

[@sebastianavalos5764]

@@SuperWeenieHutJuniorsthis man proceeded to STILL sleep there 😭 i would’ve been out of there so fast

[@jes6427]

​@@sebastianavalos5764would have RAN back to my car. Probly left the damn hammock 😅😂

[@NEELZE99]

Yeah, I don't believe you. You were super freaked out but than slept well. Of corse...

[@exileisland2675]

as a music producer of 13 years i can usually tell how monster sounds in movies are made or at least how they could be made in a program. and understanding that people are naturally pretty derivative when attempting to create something original to the point you can almost always catch at least one familiar thing that they may have drawn inspiration from in their work. that being said ive never heard anything like this. the closest thing i can compare it to is alien babble in star wars but it predates it by 6 years. it sounds like what it sounds like, large beings speaking in a primitive language from an entirely different path of evolution. it makes my hair stand up. im not a big believer in bigfoot but whatever is heard on this tape id put my rep on the line to say its real. its just too weird to be human.

[@dtcdtc8328]

From my understanding the Sierra sounds were sent to 3 different colleges who were asked to debunk them as human made . All 3 came back with them not being made by human nor any fakery. That the size of the lungs needed to make the sounds were several times larger than humans

[@exileisland2675]

@@dtcdtc8328 exactly. we are all speculating here but it's hard to ignore analysis like that from some of the sharpest minds in the field. It's a trip to listen and know what it's not.

[@dtcdtc8328]

@@exileisland2675 it is a trip. I can't get enough of it lol . Tho I must say it appears that we have a butt load of Americans who are suffering in silence from a traumatic encounter with that some big ass hairy Manimal "that doesn't exist"

[@baneverything5580]

UFOs and bizarre "paranormal" activity tormented my family and community for decades until the sane ones moved. We live in a ridiculous reality. Most people are afraid to admit this. Forget everything you`ve been told because they`ve lied to us. Why, I just don`t know...

[@LinksQuest]

I’ve heard seals at an exhibit mimicking human speech many times and it sounded a lot like that recording. Some seals are actually capable of saying entire phrases they have heard from humans.

[@JoeinAlaska]

A friend and I saw one here in remote Alaska. It walked in front of my pickup. He was super excited while I was speechless. Thank you for the video, Joe

[@halg5867]

My people, the Tlingit, have a story about the shapeshifting Otter-men, Kooshdakhaa. They are absolutely terrifying. If you are lost and alone in the forest, they lead you deeper into the wilderness and either tear you into pieces, or turn you into one of them, which prevents your soul from being able to reincarnated.

[@brandibucko]

I haven’t watched it just yet, as I’m trying to actually finish all of the Missing 411 videos I’ve started while falling asleep, but I know he has an Otter men/man video on his channel from one year ago! I can’t be sure it’s the same otter men mentioned, but wanted to comment just in case. :) Your comment makes them sound so scary 😦

[@corpses6662]

the way i’ve been BINGING this channel, so i’m so so so happy to see them with a sponsor!!!!! I love this channel so much and love watching it grow. I also like the new hair cut :) hope y’all have a great day and thanks again for all the amazing content y’all put out! it actually inspired me to use missing 411 cases as my topic for a school project!

[@driftertravelerman6893]

Dude istg i have his entire channel watched

[@driftertravelerman6893]

Ive never done it before his content its just so Fcking good.. i like that hes from my home state too

[@cdgchucktaylor]

Literally same, found these fine gentlemen about a week ago and I can’t stop watching. That being said this is probably my favorite video I’ve seen by you guys. Keep up the great work!

[@freeman7079]

I actually really appreciate you not depending on Paulides stuff to make content because the fact is Paulides leaves out A LOT of inconvenient details. I love Lore Lodge because he has some of the most in depth descriptions of these cases and discloses ALL the information available!

[@thevideolord]

Yeah Paulides's stuff almost feels like a conspiracy theorist running with a few details but Lore Lodge digs up as much info as possible on each of the cases and make them feel much more rooted in reality

[@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay]

What has he left out? Someone gave me one example & the example they gave me was a new detail that came to light YEARS after David wrote his book.

[@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay]

@Brandon P. Hendrick some of the things that happen to people are not clear & obvious. (Also, after the last 3 years we all should realize that "conspiracy theories" end up being partly or mostly true over time.)

[@jannythewonderwomen2215]

I'm sorry but Pailides personality is to abrupt for me

[@tammyhawk6805]

@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay There is so much that Paulides leaves out to make it fit his narrative.

[@my11badkids78]

Being Haudenosaunee, I grew up hearing all the old stories of stone giants, flying heads etc. Our verbal history is pretty exact as ones who learn must get it exactly right while speaking. They will be quietly corrected if they slip up so they eventually learn it by heart. That being said we were very familiar with the early settlers and I doubt there was confusion between their armor and a beings stone skin. Being highly interested in these stories, I asked a lot of questions and through discussion some elders believed that what we called a flying head would have been a tornado. As it spins and indiscriminately "eats" anything in its path. Others also thought that earthquakes would have been confused with a stone giant walking. Whilst these are fairly reasonable explanations they are also adamant that giants did exist. And that they were man eaters. Aside from giants there is also bigfoot or sasquatch. Off hand I forget our name for him but he said to be a protector of the woods and separate from the man eating giants.

[@xSwordLilyx]

Thank you for sharing

[@jeremyc5015]

This was one of the first videos I've seen on this channel and its easily the most informative I've seen on the topic. Very well done.

[@elleofmusic]

That audio is wild no matter how many times I hear it. Personally I'm on the side of them being a relative species that got VERY good at avoiding us, for reasons that surely need no explanation. They developed an intelligence similar to our own, but remained hunter/gatherer. Their hairiness in particular is an interesting detail, bc as I'm sure most ppl interested in this stuff already knows, cases of feral children who spent time in the wilderness develop pronounced hirsutism, a coat of coarse hair all over their bodies except the buttocks, just like apes and monkeys. This is believed to be a result of a purely raw diet, bc it goes away once they're back in civilization. As such, this can explain why a tribe of humanoids who live like animals would be so hairy. But bc they're still fairly intelligent, even with having adapted to life in cave systems, they clearly must use basic hygiene like not just pooping anywhere, and thoroughly disposing their dead. It's not as impossible a concept as it might seem. They probably live mostly in small groups, and have long lifespans, which help them to steer clear of us, but also accounts for the variety in their behavior, with some being more animalistic and hostile, while others try to "adopt" our children as if in an attempt to prevent a total collapse of their tribe or family.

[@nickmontanaro9638]

You're forgetting about trail cams. There are literally millions of trail cams all over north America even in remote regions and many are camouflaged. Not one picture to date. If they were real they died out. Impossible all those motion triggered trail cams continue to turn up nothing.

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

Well said and I think the reason Bigfoot is so elusive is also because they possessed the intelligence and logical rational thinking we humans do. They are able to strategize just like us and they probably have very heightened senses. They either have night vision or thermal vision type sight which explains why they can see so well in the dark also they probably have the smelling power of a bear if not greater that’s why they’ll know you’re in the area long before you know they are. They hunt in packs or groups. They existed in the wild so they’re in touch with nature to far greater degree than humans will ever be. They probably hide from humans because somewhere in the past they had bad experiences being shot or killed. I honestly believe Bigfoot or Sasquatch are probably the originals humans to walk the earth. It’s proven by science that thousands of years ago there at least 6 or 7 types of different humans all coexisting until we homosapians killed off all the other humans. So I don’t believe it’s a stretch to believe Bigfoot is out there.

[@cc-skits655]

@@nickmontanaro9638 If they did develop an intellect even similar to Neanderthals (which isn't even necessary since many animals already recognize that certain paths are frequented pretty often by humans and know to stay away), they would know what a hiking trail looks like, and avoid it. Not just that, if they spent their time evolving outside in the wild, they probably have extremely good senses, which means they can most likely hear where people hike often, and purposefully stay away from those areas

[@dawnrowlands2408]

A lot of animals can see a much wider spectrum than us. Not only infra-red but also ultra-violet. That would mean the trail cams are lit up like beacons. I'm subbed to a channel run by an Alaskan native. His account of his personal experiences is bloody terrifying. He's also got many accounts from Alaska, from 1st Nations folks, others that live there and also visitors. It's called 'Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch', if yer interested. Have a good day.

[@xKinjax]

​@@dawnrowlands2408 We humans have a real penchant seeing or hearing things that aren't actually there. I saw the movies Alien and Predator at a very young age and my area at the time had very poor public lighting and the large garden at the back of my house was completely shrouded in darkness at night. For years after seeing those movies i could have sworn that i was seeing all manner of things squirm and slither around in the darkness of my garden or hearing the predator's chittering or xenomorph hisses in the darkness and silence late at night. I still have an overactive imagination even now, at 35, and sometimes feel like there's something stalking me in the darkness but at most it's just a cat looking at me from the roof. Then of course you also have people that simply lie for attention, youtube is full of them. P.S Out of all the recorded primates none can see in another spectrum and the vast majority can't even see well at night, us included. If you're going with the claim that Bigfoot is some sort of relative of ours then they sure as shit can't see in infrared or ultraviolet.

[@calliewalsh7058]

The story made famous by Teddy R is exactly why I don't let my D&D group split up. Never ever ever ever. Only bad things happen when you're being stalked and you split up!

[@tcb6857]

Great episode! Id like to comment on David Paulides...I first listened to him 7 or 8 years ago, beforehand I had no idea there were "clusters" of missing persons in the National Parks and other areas, in listening to him, I became interested in this subject abd began also listening to other podcasts on the subject of disappearances. It seems that Paulides has put in a lot of work and has raised awareness on the subject. Without him, lots of people wouldn't have ever heard of all of these missing people, so I believe he's doing a good work, and since he's the one putting in the time, I can't criticize him. That being said... you're doing a lot of work as well to get this information and providing us with interesting stories, and I thank you for that. Keep up the good work!

[@brittanybell1041]

I just discovered this channel after watching literally all of Mr. Ballen’s videos. I find this all terrifyingly interesting; especially this video. I live in what’s called the northern interior of British Columbia, and for those that are unfamiliar, if you look at a satellite map of the region there’s essentially small communities dispersed between absolutely vast stretches of untouched forest. About a 15 minute walk from my front door is endless miles of rugged wilderness. You could, and many, many people do, get lost and no one will ever find your body. This video is especially interesting to me, and I’ve seen, or heard I guess, the tapes from Mr. Ballen’s video on the subject, but it was only after listening again while watching this video that I realized that those “woop” noises are something I’ve heard before. A lot, to the point that it was just another “Forest noise at night”. Now, I live in a reasonably large cosmopolitan area of ~70-80,000 people (Hint: I’m not anywhere close to Vancouver, the lower mainland is an entire day’s drive away), and I’ve only heard those noises deep in the forest, middle of nowhere type of area. Where I live, people just.. go missing, all the time, and it’s tragic for their loved ones but it’s also just a part of everyday life. People disappear, without a trace, and are never seen or heard from again. Yet hardly anyone here is ever taught to “fear” the forest and going for solo hikes and camping trips isn’t uncommon at all. As children we’re only taught to be “bear aware” and honestly it boggles my mind. My family used to have a cabin beside a lake that is *technically* close by, it takes 45 minutes to drive there on the highway, the entirety of the drive is through dense forest, though (highway 16 in bc, check it out, like google it don’t go there, and if you do for god sake don’t go alone, don’t go at night, don’t wander, and try to only stop in clear “people areas” like towns or well marked rest stops, but I would recommend avoiding the rest stops if possible). I spent a lot of time at this cabin and I would often take walks into the forest as a child, like between the ages of 8-16, by myself, just exploring. There wasn’t really any trails to follow either, I literally would just pick a spot at random and begin walking through the trees. I’ve seen some shit. One time frightened me so bad I never went that way, that far again. I spent a couple hours just walking through straight forest, it was summer, hot, and I knew the sun wouldn’t be setting until like 10 pm. Eventually I came out of the forest onto.. a dirt road I’m gonna say. This road.. the dirt was the wrong colour, that’s the first thing I noticed. I noticed that the lighting was wrong as well; when I left it was around 1pm, and I knew I had been walking for about 3 hours, possibly as much as 4, I didn’t have a watch and this was well before cell phones were even close to common, but as I’m sure anyone who grew up similarly, you could tell the passage of time pretty well. Well, the lighting was wrong because it was that orange you would see as the sun begins to set, which I thought was strange because the sun shouldn’t have been setting for another 5-6 hours. Regardless of this I decided to follow this weird road in the middle of the forest and after about 20-30 minutes of walking, and I’m about 9 at this time btw, when I see this.. house.. off in the distance. And here’s where things get fucked up. This house was enormous, there was a field leading up to it which was fenced. Ok, I thought, this must be the house that I was warned never to go near, I was told this when I was very small by my grandmother that if I’m ever walking in the forest and suddenly come across a very large, fancy looking house (it looks like an old mansion, except it wasn’t old, it was pristine), with a long road leading up to it, that I’m to immediately leave the area. She said, literally, “you run away, you understand?” This was shockingly normal to me. Can you guess what I did though? I wanted to *why* my grandma was so adamant I never go near this place, so I was going to check it out. I kept walking. This house looked hazy in the distance, and I felt like it must have been farther away than it looked because I felt like I wasn’t really getting closer to it. As I kept going, there was a mounting sense of anxiety and dread which became intense. Everything felt wrong. I was watching this house as I walked and not really watching the actual road in front of me; the house was off to the left of this road. In my peripheral vision there was movement, and even before I snapped my gaze to focus on it, the hair on my neck, all the hair on my body actually, stood on end and that feeling of dread transformed into something else entirely. I didn’t even want to look, but at this point I wasn’t thinking anymore, I was reduced to emotions and instincts. At the crest of this road, which went slightly uphill and was approximately 100 metres away, two extremely large, dark figures appeared, they made those noises, turned toward each other, made more noises and turned back towards me and they then took off running *towards me*. I didn’t scream, I just ran back the way I came faster than I thought I could. I could fucking hear them behind me for so long, and this road seemed impossibly long, so without even thinking or looking back at whatever was chasing me, I cut back into the forest and I ran directly through the woods in the direction I felt like I had come from. I was right, I came out the other side close to my family’s cabin, but in an amount of time that didn’t make any sense to me. I had walked in a straight line, without really stopping, for hours to get to that weird road, yet running back I stumbled out of the forest within 30-45 minutes. It might’ve even been 20 minutes. In my head I labelled the creatures as large dogs and kept that story to myself for a long time. Years later, I went back. I told my best friend at the time of my strange encounter and then took her to the strange road. I was a daring kid, and I think part of me wanted confirmation about *something*, whether it mundane or not. I brought her close enough to see the house, which looked exactly the same, and the same creatures appeared, except this time I was watching the road and spotted them a lot sooner. As soon as I saw them I grabbed my friend, saying in a loud whisper “they’re here, run!” And I’ll never forget the look on her face. I shouldn’t have brought her; I’m a lot more athletic than my friend and my instincts are better. She was slow, and I don’t think she would’ve made it out without me constantly telling her not to stop, go faster, etc. Even in fight or flight mode, she couldn’t run more than 20-30 seconds without wanting to fully stop to catch her breath. That was terrifying, whatever they were came into the forest this time and I feel like that was the closest I’ve ever come to “disappearing”. I never walked in the forest around there again. Now, if anyone has read the entire thing, does anyone know what the fuck this was? Those creatures were.. not dogs. Not bears. They were.. too big to be dogs or wolves, bigger than a grizzly but maybe not in weight. Man-like but not men. Weird movements, they walked like people but to run they seemed like they were on all fours. And like I said, very very tall, long limbs without being “skinny”, and not bear-like at all. Any thoughts?

[@Steven-zq6pu]

Manbearpig

[@brittanybell1041]

🤣

[@zatchbell5678]

Yo what the hell? This is a freaking trip. Could they have been dogmen? How did gour Grandma know about the house? Can you describe it in more detail? What was off about the dirt? We need more info girlfriend

[@saucexsativa7742]

Yeah sounds like dogmen to me . man thats creepy . i used to think it was bull but alot of ppl had same incidents so now i know those are real i mean if bigfoot is real which they are. Dogmen are def there as well . which leads me to believe theres worse outthere

[@all66books]

Interesting about what your grandma warned you about. I heard a creepypasta tale, which essentially warned that if you see a staircase in the wilderness, just ignore it, and by all means, don't climb it. The weird thing about these staircases is that even though they were mostly in wilderness areas, there was never any dirt on any of the steps. Apparently, despite being warned, someone did climb up one of these staircases, and experienced extensive missing time. Though I wanted to brush the whole thing off as good storytelling, your post here brought that tale back to me. So, who knows?

[@jimmyh.6233]

Having spent untold hours basically miles into the forest from a young man until now, (I’m 68) I’ve heard some very strange noises out there. I will say every now and then there are screams that sound exactly like this. Funny thing is I’ve sat posted up for hours in one spot and have never laid eyes on what’s making the sound even though I was close enough I should have. Trust me when I tell you there definitely is some animal out there with a huge set of lungs and power to push them. And then I could go into the time I and three of my buddies that I grew up with spotted three of these make believe creatures standing about one thousand feet away watching us. But who’d believe us anyway. All I can say about it was thank god we were armed!

[@Perun.Tha.Unvaxxd]

*I believe you* I've heard those sorta sounds too in Bothell Washington.

[@elizabethstanley4541]

@@Perun.Tha.Unvaxxd wow! In Bothel! I lived in Alaska for about 10 years. Hiked by myself all the time up there never once had any feelings of Sasquatch or experiences with a Sasquatch. Yeah, I came back to Washington and realized that I had a much bigger fear of going in the woods here. Part of the reason is in the area where I was in Alaska. The trees aren’t massive like they are here in Washington. There is a lot more space for a large Sasquatch to hide here.

[@anon2427]

I’d believe you Jimmy, I trust the words of people who spend countless hours in the wilderness and have seen things more than some suburbanite who is detached from nature. People who go into the woods often and have never experienced anything so resolutely claim nothing is out there don’t understand the gambler’s fallacy.

[@wirelessone2986]

@Jimmy Please share and in this day and age I think most people know sonething is out there.Did you guys fire on them or quietly observe?

[@CoercedJab]

Which make believe creatures?

[@ameliashostak4764]

I've always loved the Sierra camp story, and listening to the recordings give me the chills each and every time. It doesn't seem to matter how many times I listen to it, it gives me an almost primal reaction every single time...listen I dunno if I believe in bigfoot or not, but what I do believe is that whatever was making those noises on the tape, wasn't human! I DO believe that, now as far as what exactly it is...I just don't know, but I do hope to find out in MY lifetime!

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

As someone thats native I feel its important for folks to understand that there were long gone tribes that used copper tools armor etc before Columbus or the Vikings. Also until guns were used against them other native tribes also wore armor & used shields that were made of bone & other materials. They wouldve understood the idea of wearing protective clothing etc for battle well.

[@michaelwarenycia7588]

Good points. I think sometimes when people look back at such things, they're always using the period in time most familiar to them as the starting point and they assume everything prior to that must have been static. A good example is the popular notion (which has some foundation in fact) that "people nowadays are taller," /"human height is increasing". Comparing western countries to people in our great grandparents ' time, yes, but it's not like people have always been getting taller from some small origin. Human height basically bottomed out in the west in the early modern -victorian period due to malnutrition, overcrowding, etc caused by the industrial revolution and related phenomenon. But people in medieval Europe were often close or equal to average modern folk in height. Likewise with your example. I've also read that the Huron/Wendat(I was born in Canada) had small "cities" when the French and English first arrived...some of these have been excavated. The popular notion that they lived only in tiny groups scattered in the forest was based on observations of people already devastated by war and smallpox. as for the technology, given what was lost after the Roman Empire collapsed, it is perfectly natural that other peoples, facing social collapse, would lose some technologies, though again this is not widely thought of for some reason .

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

@@michaelwarenycia7588 agreed, most people also tend to think of "Native American" as being all one race of people w/ similar genetics & that simply just isn't the case. Also according to my peoples oral history not only were there natives that were upwards of 7ft tall but were cities all over the America's once upon a time. Though academia ignore it all b/c "obviously us primitive, superstitious natives didnt/dont know what we are talking about" which is incredibly rich for a group who have been wrong so many times i can't count.

[@michaelwarenycia7588]

@@JCOwens-zq6fd who are your people, if I may ask? Yes, I think it is strongly suggestive of the truth of such accounts that they bear such resemblance to stories told even by cultures that arrived to war with/subjugate them and suppress their culture.... I'm reminded of a tale my brother relayed to me, told by a Cree elder who came to give a talk at his university. This tale was told to early fur traders, about a kind of bear the size of a house, with two giant teeth and 5 arms, one arm growing out of the centre of its face. Ridiculous myth? In the days before Google or even public education??? Or, more likely an oral memory of a mammoth hunt...I dunno, I find folklore fascinating. The best stuff often doesn't get into textbooks. Presently, I'm in Ukraine...one of the best parts is just discovering all this stuff... folk memories etc (my people come from Ternopil, Ukraine but I was born in Toronto and never taught anything).

[@kimberlywalker_]

They had maces with obsidian blades on the sides. I would hope they knew about armor! Also, counting coupe? Hope you have head gear of some type!😁

[@theonewholurks]

0 proof of that but ok I'll take your word on it.

[@toastedtimexxx4859]

I’ve always been fascinated with the Sierra sounds and Moorhead’s take on what’s going on out there.

[@noname2-190]

I believe they are %100 authentic

[@salvagemonster3612]

Do some research into Ron. 45 years ago I thought they were real also.but I know now he faked them at the recording studio

[@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404]

@@salvagemonster3612 Where did you find that because I have been trying to find something that debunks these recordings and showing that he is a fraud but I can't find anything reliable.

[@BareBandSubscription]

@@salvagemonster3612 Source

[@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork]

Thanks for the info... I wanna say, you really do a great job discussing details, laying them out, and also doing your best on pronunciation as well as accuracy... VERY appreciated! Thanks!

[@ket451]

Hey! Chehalis isn't something I expected to hear of at all, but I do have a few stories of the Sasquatch, and even Firehall Rd. I have uncle that gives them fish, my mom had gone over to his house and turning into his driveway she'd seen the reflection of it's eyes peeking around the right side of the house. Uncle simply said that it was friendly and it was given fish every time they got some. Firehall road is plenty scarier, nobody goes down there at night as there is no streetlights and not even a house on the road. There's been a case of some homeless man going down the road and dissapearing without much a trace at all, even with a search effort put in. Along with my mom and roughly 6 others going down it with flashlights, headed over to their Aunties house, had an encounter with who they only described as The Monkey Man. Some roughly 6ft tall hairy creature of sorts had chased them down, all 7 of them can recall the story and one of them had even gotten scratched by the thing, it's believed that the homeless guy'd gotten taken by The Monkey Man as well.

[@arizona1882]

Im loving these longer form videos guys. The amount of work and passion put into them is amazing. I love seeing the change in style from for example the palmyra wolves video to this its such a massive change and Im so glad yall have stuck with it and keep putting the best quality content youre able to.

[@animalhalo5984]

I like that the bigfoot attacks for the ad reads get more and more aggressive. I assume I will hear how bigfoot actually murdered and Aidan within a few episodes. And the idea of Morgan&Morgan tracking down and finding bigfoot just to take him to court. Imagine the headlines

[@kellenwright2388]

Insurance claim brought to you by local ambulance chaser.

[@animalhalo5984]

@Not PC that or the door to door mornons

[@djmaster1real]

You covered a lot in a short period of time. Nothing like an intelligent, thought-provoking, unbiased analysis. Thank you. (New Subscriber 👍🏾)

[@jeanad.4703]

Been watching for a few days now. Conclusion: What a pro. Liked. Subscribed. Hooked. Super researcher, concise format, fast delivery, fascinating subject matter, open-minded and fair, logical, sees both sides and then some, upbeat, and even pleasant to look at. My favorite KZbin channel and host, at this point. 🎉 😉

[@nathanbrown5402]

No one likes sponsors being talked about in videos, but when you make it entertaining, it doesn’t bother me! Also, as someone who was around since like episode 10, I’m stoked to see you’re getting sponsors on your channel! Congratulations!

[@VadulTharys]

The Sierra Camp tapes were analyzed by a navy crytolinguist and after using established techniques for breaking language and coded language there is some very compelling argument that there is a complex language being spoken between three beings. The work is in the process of being published but the individual doing the work is recognized as one of the best cryptolinquists alive so it adds a great deal more credibility to the tapes. ONE important thing, the man doing the analysis knows people THINK it is a bigfoot, and he is clear that many of the vocalizations are outside human range, but states he does not know what is speaking this complex language. He uses the same techniques he used in the navy for 20 years to break coded language, and identified 3 individuals 1 adult male, one juvenile male and one adult female. There is a clear and prolonged conversation between the male and female and he identifies how the female calms the male who had worked himself into a rage, as the people in the shelter mimicked them. He is in the process of identifying and breaking out individual words, but since there is no know connection to any existing human language a translation is unlikely.

[@faxenmacher4633]

Ah codebreaking is interesting. I eat limes on Tuesdays, and sold 5 shoes in June.

[@maryjanespangler7488]

Fascinating!

[@victory8928]

The problem though is that others say it doesn’t appear like that. Researchers familiar with marine mammals say they probably belong to seals as they line up with seal noises and there are linguists who disagree with it being a language. Science is full of these types of situations so claiming that it is true based on a few of the opinions of the experts given these recordings is a bit disingenuous

[@sandrafreeman515]

I can imagine the conversation between the male and female; probably something like what occurs when a human male is enraged because somebody flipped him off or cut him off while driving; so, maybe, "Female; Oh, honey, lighten up. They are just dumb humans. Let them go. We don't need trouble up here. Male; "okay, for you baby." :)

[@emenem6131]

I first heard the Sierra recordings when I was a teenager in the 80s. I remember smiling through most of it and thinking roadside attraction come one come all kind of thing except for a couple of the parts that the vocals were more excited. Just the tone and volume seemed a bit strange to me that made me second guess myself. Now here we are decades later and with the technology that we have kind of allows us to see the vocal range sure it’s not a slam dunk but we’re no closer now with technology to saying “oh, this is how they did it back then…..” Still pretty convincing to me….but it’s interesting to me the parts of the recording that took the smile off my face as a teenager are still the parts that just seem strange and kind of convincing.

[@peggydeforest2882]

Love your channel, smooth delivery.

[@ElectricRose9001]

I seriously love those "conversations" you have with your pets, and it's even better when you swear they can understand you. Maybe they do just by tone, but I've had many an argument with my 15 yo cat who tries to get away with everything. XD "Meh!" "Stop, I'm trying to sleep.." *Lightly taps my face with her claw tips* "AH! Fuck you old woman, let me sleep!" "MYEEEEEHHHH"

[@devinjones1527]

Lol I had a cat like that and I can 100% hear her voice in that myehhh

[@baneverything5580]

My dog Zack was a Catahoula Cur and could smle. He`d smile and snicker at my jokes and he understood them even when I tried to trick him with my tone of voice. I`d start "accusing" him of something absolutely impossible for a dog to do but not make that part clear until the end and he always got the punchline and laughed. He stole the entire turkey at Thanksgiving one year and escaped out the back door with it. The bones or seasonings apparently killed him. I was also told large amounts of turkey is toxic to a dog so I don`t know.

[@mommawolf9653]

@@baneverything5580 that's freaking weird man.

[@AcaliahWolfsong]

We have 2 older cats, the girl is 10 now and about 6 or 7 lbs, our boy is about 11/12 and 20-25lbs (we are working on his weight with our vet). He will do what your old lady does lol. If I'm not out of bed, big boy will jump up and get in my face and myeeh till I get up. We call it his breakfast yodel.

[@hannahshark8080]

Animals are smart, they might not understand words but they understand tone very well.

[@markagrippa4018]

Of all the hours of bigfoot podcasts and videos I've watched Ive never even heard of the Sierra Tapes until I saw it in Missing 411 idk why it isn't one of the most researched pieces of evidence its the best that I've seen yet

[@imjustaguy8232]

Do you listen to sasquatch chronicals? I think it's the best by far of any channel. He has whole episodes on the sierra sounds and has had ron morehead on a few times.

[@lindabergman3127]

Me neither 🥵

[@kathyhenley948]

*Sasquatch Chronicles*. has the Sierra sounds in one of the episodes 👍

[@salvagemonster3612]

Must be new to this. In search of carried the story back in 70’s. Al looks like a fool yelling “friend Uog. Friend. Food uog” talking to Bigfoot. Ron was an inspiring singer. He recorded a record of gospel music. He had the equipment and ability to fake these tapes.

[@forgemaster1492]

@@salvagemonster3612 The tapes have been sent to various schools and gone through enough analysis to prove the tapes are very much real. Whether or not you believe the sounds were bigfoot is subjective but the tapes are definitely real. No matter how good of a singer you are, you will never be able to make sounds your physical body can not allow for.

[@teresa_davis]

Awesome to have found your channel..really neat! Your presentation rocks! ⭐️⭐️⭐️Can’t wait to check out the rest of your videos!

[@elgeneral5279]

I just found this channel today by accident and god damn I love it. This is the perfect content to binge while you're at work.

[@jimpemberton]

I just found your site. I'm a Bigfoot agnostic, I guess you could say. I'm open but skeptical. So much of what passes as "research" is unverified speculation but the evidence is fascinating because some of it is fairly compelling. So I appreciate your even-handed analysis here. Scientifically speaking, my background is physics. The more recent trend of "portal" speculation doesn't fit any kind of research or theoretical physics that I'm aware of and doesn't seem reasonable with the biological concerns people have regarding the more legitimate evidence we have. I also have a background in theology and the "spirit being" speculations don't fit what would pass as sound theology of any religious group that I know of. My honest opinion is similar to what you landed on there at the end, that we may have an ancient hunter-gatherer population of feral humans that have adapted to living in a harsh environment without much shelter or the need to cook or sterilize their water so that they can be more mobile in their hunting and gathering. That seems most likely if we are assume these creatures exist as have been reported by witnesses.

[@NitroKittens]

My man getting sponsors I have never seen, kudos! Also, knowing how much work these are, congrats for this recent output! Please don't burn yourself out!

[@catalystguitarguy]

For those interested A Formant is a term used in vocalization, at least in my studies of the voice in University. It’s Generally the range and tonal productions of a vocal tract in terms of acoustic resonance. The formant is when the vocal folds are actively engaged producing sound in the natural modal range with the physical limitations of a certain size “voice box” for simple terms long vocal folds lower voice, shorter folds higher voice. The modal range would include a full accompaniment of overtones present in the voice. The formant does not usually include screaming or fry, it also does not usually include falsetto or subharmonic production. There are few outliers in lower voice and sound production when associated with size. You’ll find in the vast majority of instances with exceptionally low pitch production it is associated in a far more pronounced larynx , larger neck, and usually a large barrel chest. Someone like Eric Holloway, for example, who’s 6’1” has a very very low voice and his Formant range would likely fit the lower recorded growls. Like exceptionally tall massive people, those with the physiology of someone like Eric are just as rare. Just the 2 cents of someone who studied the voice starting in university and still do outside my daily work.

[@Annathroy]

What's your take on the sounds?

[@rottingdeercorpse]

hi! cherokee person here, in the cherokee language (called tsalagi) the ts- letters create a “j-“ sound! so tsul’kalu is pronounced “jul’kalu” :)

[@nipiotrowski]

This channel is exactly what I’ve been looking for on this topic. Thoughtful arguments, doing your own footwork and letting the listener draw conclusions.

[@nikki7057]

The Bauwman encounter is an interesting one, for sure. I personally don't think that it's Bigfoot, and I'm not 100% convinced they are some other cryptids. I do think that whatever they are, they were curious, and no harm was intended. Every time I listen to the tape, I hear a little excitement, questions to make a decision to get closer or not, and curiosity. Personally I believe it is some type of human whether that be some type of human that took off in a different direction in our evolutionary line, or a group of people that are descendents of a group of people from long ago that decided to live out their lives completely separated then everyone else. The vocals of these things are different than us, but who's to say that it isn't something that was learned and passed down to keep that range. As far as height goes, it may be uncommon for humans to be taller, like what these things are said to be going off the vocals recording, but we do know that height is passed down. Who's to say that the gene passed down for height isn't just stronger in these things than in us. We shouldn't discount anything, but I truly think these things are some type of human. We will never know unless we find them. But in all honesty, if we do find them, we should just leave them alone. Everything happens for a reason, and maybe the reason we can't find them is because if we do, we will destroy their kind wether through sickness, war, experiments, or etc. The tape is a fascinating one, and it is always interesting to rehear the tapes to pick up on things we may not have before.

[@Junglehunter677]

So my great grandfather on my fathers side was a member of the Seirra Madre camp from 1986-2003. He took us grandkids there a few times after we were old enough to hunt without supervision. The 1 Rule he told us to Always remeber, was to be back at the campsite well before sundown and never go further than the next ridge over. He also told us that if a rock landed near you, run like hell back to the camp like the devil himself was chasing you. Heard the noises a few times and personally i lean more to them being wendigo instead of sadquatch.

[@johnnylego807]

Did he ever tell you why to run if a rock landed near you?? Old folk of the mountains( in any state) are usually super super knowledgeable. Genuinely curious what else he said. Thankyou for this.

[@Wote89]

@@johnnylego807 There're plenty of accounts-especially that far west-that involve prospectors and hunters being stalked or attacked by unseen entities. In many of them, hurled rocks are often the first sign of danger, if not part of an organized attack. So, presumably, their great grandfather was steeped in enough of those stories to know that *if* whatever was out there was going to be a threat, that was likely to be the opening volley.

[@dogshake]

@@johnnylego807my grandpa also told me about the flying rocks. He grew up in forests in New Mexico. His cousin got killed by a rock that came flying from a tree line they were near as they playing around.

[@johnnylego807]

@@dogshake Damn seriously? It killed his cousin ? 😳 I ask due to my own experiences with flying rocks in the mountains, luckily they’d usually land next too me, who, or whatever was throwing them didn’t seem to want to injure me. I was a child at the time.

[@johnnylego807]

@@Wote89 I was curious due to my own accounts with whatever these are flinging rocks. That’s why I was genuinely curious too more Information on it. Appreciate the comment 💪

[@sickofgreyhats]

Most people think that ALL us natives are short, but there are 2 basic types of tribes in North America: Sendentary (having Summer and Winter campgrounds) and Nomadic (following the herds of Buffalo, Elk, Reigndeer). My father is Micmac, a sedentary tribe, who are close to the ground, shorter, with pug noses, almost resembling Asian features. Us women are called "hippy". The nomadic tribes, however like the Blackfoot are built differently with very different facial features. My ex husband was 6' 5" . They have high cheekbones but they're shallow with thinner faces, not high cherub cheeks like Sendentary tribes. Thanks for the video. It was really good. 👍

[@anndriggers6660]

It is very well documented that the tallest people on earth at the time of the European conquest in North America was the American native. Men were said to be an average of 5'9 to 6'2, and European men were almost all about 5'4 or 5'5. I'm sure there were some both taller and shorter on both sides.

[@sweetlullaby5156]

love the improvement of this channel's visuals. love the stories, as always

[@jrbaxterstockman548]

My head cannon theory has to do with the Hartley mammoth locality discovered last year. It's a mammoth kill site that suggests a group of humans existed in North America up to almost 39000 years ago. Clovis people were dated to about 13000 years ago. The common suggestion is that Gigantopithecus crossed the land barrier, and its evolutionary lineage became Bigfoot. Maybe Bigfoot was really something akin to a Homo neanderthalensis or another Homo relative that crossed over into North America at the time. Their descendants became the "sasquatch." Not some great behemoth of a monster. Just an almost human, so close genetically that it would be possible for the Clovis people to have cross-bread (not suggesting they would, but that's how close we are talking about). It puts everything into a grounded realm of possibility. They didn't have super strength, just far more than the native people did. They weren't covered in hair, just far hairy than them. They weren't speaking some gorilla like language, just one they made with a completely different vocal range.

[@kimberlywalker_]

There is a genetic condition that makes people grow hair all over their body. I've wondered. What if the first nations made some of their undesirables live outside the village for some reason? Over time, they could have formed their own people. Could have gone off on their own, had kids (some with their genetic issues as well). Over time, could there be a tribe of people, covered in hair from hormonal issues, that live in the woods and shun we average humans?

[@TheOriginalSeveth]

Very interesting idea, would certainly warrant further investigations into the “when, where and where” of the first American settlers

[@WeAreInYourWall]

@@kimberlywalker_ its a recessive gene though even if they all had it , it would be bred out in a few generations their offspring wouldnt necessarily be hairy and that wouldnt explain the vocal ranges strength or infrasound.

[@mattschwanger4387]

The Clovis First Theory is wrong though, there's plenty of evidence pointing towards humans being in North America long before that, back to about 37,000 years ago possibly, and definitely 25,000 years ago. Otherwise yeah

[@jrbaxterstockman548]

@@mattschwanger4387 ... did you not read what I wrote? I was saying that the evidence of humans being here a lot earlier than Clovis implies earlier passage to the America's. That timeline would suggest it could be other closely related hominids besides just homo sapien

[@joshuasaffell6107]

Just wanted to say i watched 5 seconds of your Roanoke video and subscribed immediately you guys rock!

[@cadiehockenbary1588]

I've listened to Paulides. He goes off on rants that are very off putting. This aside, I'm always willing to listen to his thoughts. I appreciate your channel and your in-depth look at these cases. Plus, you're hilarious at points which is so engaging and refreshing.

[@jessehutchings]

The tales of native people encountering and SPEAKING with the hairy giants are especially fascinating to me. It's almost like the hairy people realized what was happening to the native tribes during European colonization and collectively decided to move further into the wild lands to avoid the unknown chaos that was taking place among the human societies

[@salvagemonster3612]

Problem is most of these so called tales are told during the internet age.

[@CameronRoser-Peet]

@@salvagemonster3612I mean unless you personally know a Native American elder when else could we have heard them lol

[@cdgee6399]

I can not tell you I have ever seen sasquatch, or know for sure it's real. I can tell you I used to coon hunt at night as a young man and teenager. I was extremely good with a gun and was not worried in the woods about anything. But for almost a year, something huge and bipedal would walk parallel with me into the woods at night for about 500 yards. It was VERY obvious, because when I would stop suddenly, it would take another step. Sometimes it accidentally broke branches. It was always just out of my flashlights range. Still don't know what it was. And NO humans were a mile into our private woods at random times, days, when I was hunting.

[@zatchbell5678]

What part of the country was this?

[@cdgee6399]

@@zatchbell5678 This was a piece of land near Lufkin TX.

[@zatchbell5678]

@@cdgee6399 that makes sense, Texas is a wild place

[@jamesienna2136]

similar experiences in sabine national forrest on toledo bend near hemphill tx. in the 1970's

[@cdgee6399]

@@jamesienna2136 A lot of people believe TX is all like El Paso. Desert and plains. East Texas is very thick woods and even swamps.

[@frst78]

My son saw a bigfoot on an animal preserve. It terrified him but it scared the bigfoot as well. Both froze, then bolted in opposite directions. My other son scoffed at him until an EXTREMELY large bipedal hairy animal crossed the road in front of him and casually stepped over a guardrail like one steps over short decorative garden fencing. But he said it had a long snout and pointy ears, not a typical bigfoot face. We obviously live in a rural area that has a lot of stories attached to it but still...very creepy.

[@jlaff8260]

Dogman?

[@anon2427]

Thanks for sharing

[@TheDramacist]

Bigfoot wearing a mask

[@elizabethhuie563]

Sounds like he saw a Dogman.

[@peter-radiantpipes2800]

My wife is a speech pathologist and found it very interesting. She’s not into any of this but listened several times and rambled off a bunch of terms I can’t remember but said it certainly sounds like human speech or speech patterns and require certain anatomical structures for such. Though there are animals that can mimic some sounds of course. Shes director of a facility as well as head of speech pathology. No analysis done at a proper level of course but her initial impression. It was a year or so ago so I don’t remember a lot of what she said about it. Being married to a Speech Language Pathologist comes in handy more than one would imagine. :)

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

Sounds like a cool job!

[@zaynes5094]

I'm subscribing. I like this style of storytelling and information-giving.

[@osirisatot19]

I live in the Sierra Nevada mountains, although not very high up; and the forest and wilderness just feel eerie in places and I can imagine some group of people or something else being able to hide in it pretty easily.

[@thatdexyguy9870]

Wendigoon, then Lore Lodge? Another amazing week to be alive

[@urmom-ge1ox]

Lore lodge for nap time and wendigoon for bedtime 🫡

[@mrtwon2277]

I like your unique take on things that comes from doing your own research and open mindedness but that you acknowledge others research like Daves

[@KingOfTheWild27]

The theory of a separate group of hominids is extremely interesting to me, and brings to mind some articles I’ve read, that, based on mastodon bones, there were hominids in North America 130,000 years ago.

[@AprilShowers73]

Aiden, I've got to tell you, I have recently found your channel. (I am sure it is because of the content I consume here on KZbin.) I appreciate the concise, truthful, factual insight you provide. The intense and deep research that is put into these videos is amazing. So, I became a member. I was born, raised, and still live in the Central Valley of California. The Sierras were a huge part of my childhood, and they still are as an adult. (here I go, I am about to age myself, lol) I was born around the time this tape was made. That area was a place I spent a lot of time with my dad, fishing, hunting, camping, and hiking, and an area as an adult Boy Scout leader (former Scoutmaster and mom to two Eagles) we have spent many many summers doing scout stuff. You did a fantastic job of trying to pinpoint where this was. My dad was a huge bigfoot believer. Since we frequented all areas just outside of Yosemite, he had stories. He had a lot of stories. I need to compile them into a book and publish them. I think it goes much deeper than just "bigfoot" Having once been a really big fan of Mr. Paulides, I have since taken that down to more of an interest. I take what he says and then I do more research into it. We all know that sometimes his information needs to be taken with a grain of salt, as he seems to take said Missing 411 cases and boils it down to just a few facts and excludes a lot of the details. Thank you, Aiden for putting back in the permanent facts on some of these Missing 411 cases.

[@humanspoder777]

I like that your channel isn't over sensational, just stating the facts

[@guyinthewrinkledwrangler]

Well, the audio still gives me goosebumps. Not the first time ive heard it (seen the documentary) but damn thats creepy. God bless you and yours.

[@cynthiamayfield861]

Definitely a fan of canam, im glad our village takes up for Dave. Thank you for sharing that you used his work

[@brecatanese4329]

This is such an interesting topic and hearing the background of native stories and how it could be related to that is so interesting and thought inducing

[@sarlaccstapeworm990]

29:55 "Clothed in garments made of stone"... Some people might think that it's crazy to even SAY something like that. But what they actually meant, was that the beings would drench themselves in thick pine sap (or "pitch"), and then roll around on a river bank of small pebbles (making the pebbles stick to the sap). They would repeat this process several times, and it'd actually help them to be resistant to the arrows, spearheads, and obsidian knives of the native American tribes... 😁👍

[@jackarmstrong8790]

… no. For several reasons.

[@MrKsan05]

When I was 16 I was hunting four miles in deep woods, on opening day of deer season when I walked up on a Bigfoot. I am 53 now and never told anyone but my mother, father and later on my wife my story until this year, I'm now 53 years old and in all of those years of hunting I've searched for this creature and have not found so much as a track but that moment changed my life forever.

[@fadillangston9797]

Cap.

[@beatdizzy]

Would you share the whole story?

[@alexmitchell9336]

great vid as always

[@Mark-nh2hs]

Came across your channel by accident and watched a few of your videos love the folklore element and the research. More importantly the air of scepticism but logical alternatives what it could be..... Sometimes there is no answer lol

[@mattmoustache]

Third time now hearing the tapes and it still legitimately triggers fight or flight

[@fontasup]

This is the guy that first introduced me to skin walkers ! First saw saw him on tiktok and then he just stopped posting .I'm glad he's still making videos !dope

[@lesliemartin3]

I'm not sure how speaking of known events is stealing someone elses work. But people will find any reason to be negative. Keep doing what you guys are doing I love thiscanner❤

[@buzzs_highquality_production]

Hey, Aidan. Just want to say, love the vids. Your KZbin videos have gotten me into the Paranormal world. Thanks dude, you rock.

[@AwesomeAutismHC]

This is the first time I’ve seen a KZbin channel sponsored by… a law firm

[@kkjj4508]

You make a very good point about the 10000 feet comment to keep people away, I never thought of that

[@sandidavis820]

Adrian, what you have said about the "creatures", possibly being another type of human, makes a lot of sense. I believe there are beings other than ourselves living in the forests and wilderness. They may want to be left alone, but the day may come that they may be able to be our friends or teach us something useful that will help us survive. I think we will just have to be patient and wait for the right time.

[@beauandersen1017]

Love, love, love this video! I cant understand how a person doesn't find this stuff interesting its beyond me, but thank you so much for your service to this topic, I found you through other channels their are quite a few great ones out their, "Saquatch Theory" and also Bob Gimlins channel (not to be confused with "The Bob Gimlyn" who shot the infamous Bigfoot video) hope im spelling that correctly, those are just 2, anyway keep up the great work!

[@filthycasual8187]

You have your Bobs reversed. "Gimlin" is the one attached to the Patterson-Gimlin Film. Bob Gymlan is the KZbinr.

[@Cheeyze]

I watch you and The Why Files alot, I honestly don't know whether or not I believe in Bigfoot, aliens, cryptids, etc. either way, all these stories you two tell are so fascinating, I almost wish we had proof they are true. Keep up the great work.

[@One-ct3xe]

Lizzid Peeple!!!

[@maggsmick]

@@One-ct3xeyou just gotta love Heckle Fish😂😂

[@christymarch7245]

​@@One-ct3xefear the Crab Cat!

[@griffinheinzman3751]

I've watched this channel for a year now and I'm just realizing that I was not subscribed. I've wondered why I've never been notified about new uploads

[@Mm2-1589]

Cant really argue with those saying you should acknowledge david paulides. Your title is missing 411, paulides literally wrote the book on it. He put in Decades of research.. with out that, none of us would be aware of the strange disappearances.

[@austinh7110]

Still good to cite the author. Not trying to argue but you should always include the author if you are citing a book/story/show/movie

[@foggydog3408]

Your vids are great as they are factual, entertaining, and a lot more realistic than Paulides. Keep up good work as Paulides doesn't own the whole topic of missing people and I prefer your work.

[@noninoni9962]

No, but if you "steal" facts and information from HIS investigations, then you can be sued... Do your own investigations, don't steal his stuff.

[@baneverything5580]

Paulides is a strange dude. He blocked me from commenting on here so I unsubbed and blocked his crap. He complains about censorship but did it to me for unknown reasons because I never said anything bad that I know of, but he`s very easily offended and mentally unstable. I enjoyed his vids but refuse to tolerate censorship and absolutely despise those who ban free speech and remove them from my world permanently. His constant whining was getting old fast anyway and he hasn`t been very honest about the stories he presents as fact.

[@gordongarrett6229]

Without David paulides, we wouldn't even be talking about missing people.

[@foggydog3408]

@@gordongarrett6229 He hasn't solved anything, its only story telling for entertainment purposes, and now there are people who do a better job at it. The provide all the real facts and stick to telling a story. I liked his work in the beginning, but people are surpassing him. Its all good.

[@hannahshark8080]

@Gordon Garrett Sure Paulides started the conversation and brought it to our attention but his narrative is quite flawed. David often leaves out crucial information and has his biases.

[@scratchedaviators1254]

Salish pride baby ! I hail from squamish just outside of Vancouver good stuff and your pronunciations were understsndable.

[@jamihazen5857]

Wow just watched for the first time! You are amazing!

[@beatrixjones2982]

I subscribed after watching this video! Outstanding!

[@scribble2468]

Found your channel yesterday and have been binging videos since :) Love your content! Initially, I thought I would get bored just watching a dude talk but I could not have been more wrong. Your delivery is entertaining! Much love

[@douggaudiosi14]

I think the "stone garments" could be the natives account on metal breastplates Maybe it's their recollection of early settlers or maybe even farther back maybe it was vikings. I feel like alot of natives " red haired" giant stories are ancient stories of natives n vikings interacting. The Norse where massive for their time and they also had red hair

[@witchdoctor1394]

We knew what metal was. What it looked like and what you could use it for. We just didn't use it the same way Europeans did, by and large.

[@jessicadorion8507]

@@witchdoctor1394 only some tribes did.

[@danielrobertson2154]

Yeah but they weren't all covered in hair and they had swords. Why don't the natives describe them using shiny sharpened sticks and painted wooden disks to deflect their arrows? Nope. Why do folks think the natives were describing actual white people? I honestly don't think they would have been that stupid. In my opinion, saying that they were just lazily describing vikings in the dumbest possible way, is really just clawing at the mental walls in an attempt to explain away things we refuse to understand, for whatever reason.

[@douggaudiosi14]

​@witchdoctor 13 there metal wouldn't be as drawn out and sculpted the same way as breastplate or helmet would be. They made metal jewelry not metal armor. Big difference and also did the have word for metal armor? Is iron ore not but a stone?

[@OfficialBex]

So far this is ur best video of the ones I’ve watched ❤

[@lm3563]

New listener and want to say how much I enjoy your show. Had to laugh during the Morgan and Morgan commercial as I picture a process server in the mountains serving Mr. B. Foot with a lawsuit, "Sign here......and here. Have a nice day." Bigfoot: "Crap."