Mission 2: Our First Proper Multi-Submarine Hunt | Wolfpack

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

43:30 "Talon, did you pass the message on?" Silence. Because, as they're underwater, Talon cannot use the radio, so he's jumped out to swim to the other sub and bang on their hull in Morse

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Usually, the radio should still work at periscope depth. Those are long wave signals which are still receivable at shallow depths and should be transmittable as well.

[@jg3167]

@@CakePrincessCelestia They were "cheating" and using Discord for radio comms between the subs so they wouldn't have to mess with Morse Code, with only the Hydrophone Operator in each boat in the chat room. Everyone else was using the in-game communications, which regulated who could hear who based on where they were and what direction they were facing.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

@@jg3167 Hmm. I kinda know Morse… I can't listen to it and hear letters and words in my head, but if I hear it and also see the dots and dashes like another video showed, I can receive it that way. Is this group open to members and looking for radio operators?

[@scottr9900]

They might have had a long wave sonar, and are keying.

[@PreceptorGrant]

The in-game morse comms works at periscope depth.

[@warbuzzard7167]

Wow, Kortana is hyper-competent in every vehicle she crews. I fear for her enemies in the digital realm and in real life! I am so proud of you folks having improved so significantly. I would love some followup on what happened with the targeting. Please do a video on this!

[@Bry-c6w]

No fucking joke

[@smokincrater]

Hi Cap, a couple of tips. When you make your sighting and range mark, start a stop watch and make another at 3 minutes and 15 seconds after your first. Then you will have all you need to setup an attack. Range, course and speed. Use a compass to read off course. Then measure a distance between the two marks. Distance of the track (km) x 10. Will equal the speed of the target in knots. Try to get in front of the target to where, the angle on the target's bow is 30 deg. Bearing to the target, the target's course (hypotenuse line) and the right angle to the target's course (base line) will form a right angle triangle. The distance to the target (hypotenuse line) will be exactly double to the right angle of the target's course (the base line). The beauty of this is, you only need to go half the target's speed to collide with the target, at the intersection of the base and the hypotenuse side of the triangle . With only under half the target's seed, the sub commander can choose any point he wishes to open fire from. The ideal setup being 600 - 800 metres when launching torpedo's with a run time of less then 30 seconds. Once you have turned in and committed to the attack. Use periscope observations sparingly, only to confirm the attack is coming together. Once your ready to fire, use the scope. Once you have fired lower your scope and only raise it again, just before detention to confirm a hit. Good hunting!

[@ardyzink7928]

Give a boat to Cortana. Cap, abbreviate your commands. Also stay off the batteries as much as you can. Looks like fun. I notice you are finally giving steering commands using right and left. Port and starboard are for observation and usually not steering.

[@mecampbell30]

"Port and starboard are for observation and usually not steering." That's true for the US Navy. Not the Royal Navy.

[@OoavastoO]

@@mecampbell30 Not for the RCN either

[@scottr9900]

Reading In The Wake Of The Wahoo, and Clear The Bridge, by RAdm R.S. O’Kane will give you an idea for US submarine ops in the Pacific. The Brits referred to the XO as Jimmy, no idea why. And for ze Germans, the Captain was nearly always a very familiar “Herr Kaleun”. I’ve mentioned it before, but most U-boat and US sub commanders were Lieutenant Commanders, or Kapitan Leutnants. A full Captain taking a boat for a ride was usually a shakedown of a new type. The early heroes who lived were trying out the new electric boats at wars end.

[@rafale1981]

Absolutely give a boat to cortana! Smartest one of the lot!

[@JohnVanderbeck]

@@mecampbell30 Why would you not just be consistent? Sounds confusing.

[@praetorian48]

Absolutely love this submarine content. GR navy for the win

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@89schofe]

@@grimreapers The grim sailors 💀

[@montys420-]

I do love the new sub content, can't wait for these missions to get more detailed and skill lvl increases.

[@Tareezo]

GRavy? But absolutely, fantastic content. Loved it.

[@jaype331]

It's badass keep it up

[@Tinderchaff]

This was a joy to watch and brings back some old memories. Loving the coordination of the team during the course of the mission. A couple more useful tips sprang to mind as I was watching this 1: attack from the darkness. You did this anyway but it makes you harder to see. 2 Know the maximum depth of the area you are operating. You were in square AN49 which places you slightly North of the centre of the North Sea. A rough max depth here is 100m. It might seem a lot but your max depth is deeper and in a tense situation could mean you bump against the bottom while trying to evade an attack. Can't wait to see the next video!

[@sebidotorg]

Funny. I thought all along that you had accidentally hit the second ship, when both explosions occurred exactly on your torpedo run time. And the end screen confirms it: both kills belong to U-96, your first two eels hit that second ship pretty nicely.

[@papayne]

Excellent. Plot bearings at reg intervals apart to determine speed. You can can do same by plotting yourself too in the same way. This shows your relative motion and allows you to calculate intercept courses and speeds as they (and you) change. It’s called a dead-reckoning trace or plot. Went to ASW school long ago…

[@mrhedgebull1658]

Well done GR, massive improvement over the last time. You all learn so fast.

[@isaacwest]

you can use a stopwatch and the periscope to figure out the speed of visual contacts if you know the length of the contact. easiest way is to be 90 degrees (roughly, you could also do this when in an attack position and need the speed to set your torps whilst the contact is still at 40 degrees off the bow for example) off the bow of the contact, make sure you're not moving parallel to the contact. put the vertical line of the periscope on the bow of the contact, start a stopwatch and keep the vertical line of the periscope stationairy on the bearing where the contacts bow was when you started the stopwatch. stop the stopwatch once the contacts stern passes the vertical line of the periscope and voila, the contact has moved a known distance (the length of the ship) within a known timespan (time on the stopwatch) speed = distance/time in meters per seconds, multiply that by 1.92 to get knots.

[@grimreapers]

Yes this must be poss right?

[@isaacwest]

@@grimreapers in ww2 german uboat captains were equiped with a special watch called an ujagd that basically did the calculation for them. This watch would have different ship length scales in circles on the face of the watch with speed readouts on where the seconds would be displayed, all the captain had to do was line the periscope up with the bow of a contact, start the ujagd and wait until the stern passed the periscope to stop the ujagd. Then consult the closest length scale and read out the speed indicated on that scale. There's an internet version of it silent hunter players love to use

[@maxplanck9055]

Attacking a convoy is the same as deflection shooting in aircraft, slower subs- you need to aim far ahead of the convoy to merge into shooting range, destroyers always steer towards you from the front and rear and attack you from both of your flanks, watch 90 degrees left and right when attacking!✌️❤️🇬🇧

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

The targeting computer (mechanical) factors this in. That's what the angle-on-bow, target speed, and torpedo speed inputs are for

[@scottr9900]

Sort of. Humidity could affect that.

[@RogueWraith909]

@@scottr9900 Humidity of water... ? Isn't that always going to be 100%?

[@liam159357]

Really enjoying this series. As someone who’s not DCS / plane obsessed it’s a refreshing change.

[@absolutezero6423]

The ambush suggestion sounds a lot more viable for your next run. This was a sizable improvement over that first attempt.

[@MG_Steve]

When firing the torps don't you have to lead the ship? Cap was aiming the scope directly at the ship when he fired, that would then explain why the fish hit the ship behind?

[@AllTradesGeorge]

I don't know how accurately it's modeled, but from what Cortana was saying, it seems like there's an automated system where you input range and direction (hull angle) and it computes a firing solution for you. It could be that something got missed as far activating all of that (which would be the only thing I can think of). I would imagine there's also an option where you can just input your range and angle of fire directly, but that would require either a lot of fast math to calculate the lead on your target, or else an incredibly intuitive (or lucky) guess.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

The TDC does that for you. You basically input the bearing automatically via the attack scope or UZO (the gyro-stabilized binoculars on the conning tower), the speed, the range and AOB (angle on bow / aspect) and then the thing does the rest. Kinda is a mechanical computer.

[@meist3rbrau]

Afaik you have to enter the parameters manually before launching the eel, including the estimated lead angle. The information from the scope, i. e. distance, relative speed, heading, bearing was given to the torpedo operator by voice who then entered the parameters. At least this was done on the Type VII-C submarines described in the book and the movie.

[@UKprl]

For an initial intercept course you can use the basic method of making small adjustments until you are maintaining a constant bearing to the target, at least until the target starts altering course. You were more or less doing the constant bearing thing when the target got to 215-220° which is when you were closing in rapidly. Alternatively starting from a parallel position, if you think your best speed is 2x that of the target you can sail at 60° relative to their direction of travel. and if you think your speed is 1.5x theirs, more like 45° if you want to stay slightly ahead. E.g. if they are sailing due North, initially head at 315° while you plot it out. The trig is easier at those angles. (If you are the faster boat attacking you are travelling along the hypotenuse) That will be sufficient until you are close enough to think about diving.

[@williamescolantejr5871]

when on surface looking for subs remember to 1.look for bubbles then 2.smell for cabbage,got them lol

[@kill3stdayz910]

So much suspense, and you didn't even encounter any opposing forces! I thought the comms difficulty adds so much to this game! Thanks for an excellent video!

[@GUITARDIS]

Thirty degrees to PORT (or starboard for 'right') is the correct nautical parlance. Saying 'left' or 'right' gets you keelhauled, or discharged through a torpedo tube.

[@OVRxNxOUT]

Love the new Wolfpack videos. Please continue with more. Can’t wait to see mission 3!

[@stevenlarratt3638]

When turning as a wolfpack the technique was to pass the direction to the opposite side. Turn left come to heading 320. Pass to right sub, pass to left sub. Subs eye left sub, when left sub turns she slows by two knots. Mid sub slows 1 knot, outer sub maintains speed. If you can use rudder direction changes the order would be, turn left 5 degrees on the rudder, (up/down on the bow planes to a given depth). Come to bearing 320. If issuing a fire order you would spread torpedoes by .5 of a degree per 3 miles. So fire at bearing 090 on the range finder, left sub fires at 89.5 mid 090, right 90.5 degrees... good video 👍 If in a pack of 3, send a single sub forward and attack in a set time point. Try and get to 4-6 miles in front and turn towards so that the angle is on a constant bearing. If the speed of the torpedo is say 33 knots and you have a constant bearing of 30 degrees and you are doing 11 knots divide the bearing by three, and turn towards so that the angle is at one third as the torpedo is 3 times quicker. If at 6 knots and torpedo does 30 knots that is a bearing of 5th's... hope that makes sense

[@grimreapers]

Sounds very complex!

[@stevenlarratt3638]

@@grimreapers if all knowledge is done from the start it isn't that hard, its easier than passing a message and getting confirmation back and always cross verifying every order... especially if using phones.

[@dmacpher]

Looks like you’re reliving “the happy times” as they put it. Yellow submarine lol, next to the fleet is Boaty McSubFace

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

1940 France: *falls* Kriegsmarine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZDHpnehasprr7c 1942 America: "yesterday, December 7th 1941" Kriegsmarine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6CxgqGlq9yDkKs

[@zealman79]

Je prefer Shippy McBoatFace

[@michaelvangundy226]

The convoy will turn port and starboard about 15 degrees. It's called a zigzag. You need to plot and time those.

[@kurthummitzsch9948]

Excellent job this time around. Something to note is that convoys will turn randomly as part of their doctrine. When they turned away doesn't mean you were spotted it could have simply been an ordered course change per their zig zag pattern. No need to panic that you were spotted. As has been mentioned you can fire torpedoes while on the surface no need to have to dive. Personally I would have fired surfaced. You'll note on your map the ocean is divided into grids with numbers and letters. When contact was first made you could have sent the grid and target heading to your other subs. Might have helped sub 3 to find you. Really enjoyed this video. Sub work is lots of observation lots of patience and then it hits the fan when the first torpedo detonated. Well done.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@meist3rbrau]

Ha, you seem to have watched the movie finally, haven't you? Well, congratulations, fine work so far on your second mission. Good men, that's what it needs 😉 What happened was that the lead angle was not set properly when preparing the torpedo shots. To increase your hitting chance I would recommend to send a fan of eels towards a convoy. And concerning visibility you should consider that the periscope mast will be visible from the enemy vessels when it pokes too far out of the water. In the original book "Das Boot" (ger. "the boat") Buchheim describes precisely how Kaleun "der Alte" pokes the surface with the periscope just for a glimpse before hiding it back under water.

[@scottr9900]

der Alte. “The Old Man.”

[@TheBenno85]

Ah my two favourite binges are GR on DCS and Wolfpack on anything sub based..... This makes me happy, will be cool to watch as you all improve futther

[@MattBrunton1965]

Shame about the 3rd sub. On the next outing, it would be good to see footage from other subs (like we sometimes have 'Grumpcam' and 'Kortanacam' on other GR vids)

[@grimreapers]

Interesting idea

[@MattBrunton1965]

I appreciate it would be a bitch to edit the various views, but one of the great things about this video was the teamwork displayed.

[@jg3167]

@@MattBrunton1965 Grump live-steamed his view both times so far, so if the others did too or recorded and posted to their channels later and Cap linked to them, we can just go around to their channels to see their POVs if we wanted

[@adamanthony3585]

Link up with Wolfpack345 for someone who is really well-versed in sub warfare! As a viewer of his channel and a player of U-Boat, there were moments where I was like... NOOOOO, Cap, what're you doing?! Still... Big improvement over the last video! Keep it up! I'm really enjoying these sub vids.

[@kimosabe6692]

I agree I would love for to do a joint mission with Wolfpack345. This dude is a sub master.

[@1milesnpr]

Try to always be ahead and let the skimmers (targets) run over the top of you whilst you're submerged, deep and slow. Let the passive sonars do the work and it will also mask the boats cavitation while speeding up. Fire down the line of bearing of the massive noise of the convoy.

[@charlietheunicorn5383]

Good show. My only suggestion would be to pull up a silhouette model of merchant vessels for the era. This would make the preplanning, anticipating the kill shot much easier to make. The first vessel appeared to be a liberty ship (or similar); it has a max speed around 12 knots / 21km/h. The second was configured similar to a WW2 oiler; unknown max speed, but likely no more than 15 knots / 24km/h. Now we just need "firing solution" and "fish in the water" and we are all set for more GR entertainment.

[@shveylien7401]

I wish my "Cortana" responded with "Aye" or "Roger". Loving the change of noise from Jets to Diesels.

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@JimFinley11]

Quick thoughts from the first minute of the mission: if those symbols on the conning towers are horseshoes for good luck, they're upside down! All your luck will dribble out the open bottoms. And from the first look at the crew getting started, their eyes said, "TOO MUCH COFFEE!" Good luck, crews! Now to watch the rest and see how things go.

[@Aenonar]

Horseshoe orientation depends on traditions, my grandmother from Finland had them with the tips downwards. Either way they're some type of vent iirc

[@anderstroberg3704]

To see if you are on an intercept course, see if the angle to the other ship (or aircraft...) remains constant. If it does, you are on an intercept. If it seems to move forwards, it'll pass in front of you, if it seems to move backwards, it'll pass behind you.

[@Chio_OB]

I have the game but no crew... 1st shakedown I spent 40 odd mins playing about and learning how to control the Sub. I was then playing record with a cup of tea and a rude ship sunk me. Good game, great vid btw

[@mecampbell30]

About ranging, the reason Grumps measurements are off is because he is using the wrong speed. You should keep in mind that for a large ship, at 20km (if you see anything) you'll only be able to see a mast or the top of the ship. At 10-12km a large ship will appear as if part of the boat is below the waterline. At 5-7km or so you should see the actual water line. Measuring the length is not a great idea because as the aspect ratio to the target decreases you'll get false measurements. Remember the plotting triangle. You need and accurate bearing (easy) combined with an accurate speed OR distance. If one of those things are off, you need to reverify your assumptions. Based on what I'm seeing from the video, they did not change course. For the shooting, you need to shoot where they will be, not where they are now. You hit the second ship because they were trailing each other on the same course.

[@WyvernFalken]

Huh? I was the helmsman. I had zero situational awareness outside of seeing what Damp was plotting on the nav table.

[@mecampbell30]

@@WyvernFalken Apologies. I meant whoever was doing the plotting. That person should use very long lines of bearing so that you can adjust the solution if they have the wrong speed/range.

[@WyvernFalken]

@@mecampbell30 Rog no worries. That was Damp Sock. :)

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

Do you know the constant bearing thing? If you want an easy intercept course just turn to somewhere ahead of them where there bearing will not change left or right but stays constant. Then you have collision course. For a proper setup the parallel running ahead and then turning 90° towars is better tho as with the collision course you have not really time to close while dived cause when you slow down on colision course you will ofc sail past behind them. But might be usefull if all you want is close distance fast.

[@PreceptorGrant]

Press M for Map, you can look at it any time, eg on bridge. Also, when directly abeam the target, you can go to all stop, then use your stopwatch to time how long it takes the ship to sail through your scope sights. Can calculate target speed based on ship length and time taken. Working out torpedo shots with the TDC is very finicky, unless you get all the target speed/range/Angle on Bow perfect it doesn't work out. I've only ever hit a fraction of the shots I've taken.

[@maxplanck9055]

Watch for destroyers coming from the side,when attacked get 150 metres fast and steer randomly left and right submerged,silent operation when close to ultrasonic detection #dont be predictable ✌️❤️🇬🇧

[@bob-be9ov]

You can get speed in knots if it is moving in a straight like by ploting target location and the timing for 3 min 16 sec and reploting the distance between points should give an accurate estimate of the targets speed

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@paulharrison2325]

Great content, thank you all.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

The animation of the bearing readout on the scope… aargh. it's like the last two drums are geared together. But the units drum should lock in with the tenths drum when the tenths are between .9 and .0!

[@1milesnpr]

They "pulled left (port) is because you are all within visual range. Stay submerged!!! Send a decoy out if you've 3 boats to play with to turn the convoy toward the shooter. They'll then turn away into the decoy who can then blast fish at them. It's a self perpetuating circle of death. To skimmers. That's how a "Wolfpack" works.

[@follker]

Someone has earned 🐬s on their chest.

[@1milesnpr]

@@follker You are correct, mate. Not an officer though. But did a Perisher course as crew on exchange with the poms. 9 years deep and then 15 as an SF operator. Changed branches completely.

[@follker]

@@1milesnpr 'skimmers' is what undid you, mate.

[@scottr9900]

Angles on the bow make for a great shooter. Bet there’s an app for that. The US Navy had a “banjo” apparatus, and then a TDC computer to solve speed and angle and set the appropriate rudder angles and speed.

[@lostsoul4680]

Watched the livestream and was one of the funniest things ive seen in a long while. Laughed so much my tears are now comprised of stomach acid.

[@fitzy7079]

The explosion on the second ship lighting up the exhaust from the frist ship at 44:37 looked amazing

[@SubaruLove]

Your crew has the thousand yard stare. I'd check for a diesel exhaust leak. Love these submarine missions.

[@russburton7550]

You Can Fire Torpedoes' when Surfaced Using your speed to get into range and can submerge to escape

[@Bradygoat6390]

Always great content brotha. Thanks for all the work you all put in. It truly shows

[@damonried1720]

Despite this being basically a training mission for the new GR Submariners, the immersion level was actually higher than on your airborne mission. Very well edited. Great communications and teamwork.

[@grimreapers]

Thx DR

[@jeremybrocknblue5593]

Really enjoying your sub simulations…… I hold my breath with you guys as the depth charges start splashing.

[@jamesohara4295]

Convoys travel at the speed of the slowest vessal, usually about 10 knots.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

In older subsims, they've usually been in the 6 - 9 canots range.

[@conmcgrath7174]

Only for tankers. Merchants are much more likely between 5-8 knots.

[@jamesohara4295]

@@conmcgrath7174 Yeah, easily overtaken, get in front, lie in wait, let the first line run over you then unleash hell :)

[@ronaldmatthewssr1837]

I think figuring out the angle off the bow, that would give you the lead to shot the torps. You never shoot amidship with unguided torps. This was much better than the first attempt. I love sub games

[@ghoffmann821]

This better live up to last week and the past week of Cap's hype in other videos. Lol

[@waw4428]

Question, in the battles between two fleets, it would be interesting if you can run a scenario in which you vary the engagement distance for one of the fleet while the other engages as usual. For example, one fleet enganges as usual while another only start attacking at a closer distance for all attack weapons (artilery, missiles and airplanes). Then compare the results to when both fleets engage at usual distances.

[@seanquigley3605]

Good job today, don't know if I was intentional but attacking out of the dusk was good, just remember to convoys Zig and Zag. Take some time to get a base course on the chart. Also if chart has markings you can use let other subs know what square your in then heading and approx angle the convoy is from your heading along with range and should help anyone who's lost find the convoy at least if not yourselves. Also Cap instead of using names when giving orders use the different portions names so if things get changed round the right order get to the right person.

[@Uriel77200]

This was fun! German wolf packs are very interesting to explore!

[@runner1086]

Just adding that "wolf packs" usually where gave a map grid to where they patrones, then they just was waiting for ships. That was how they uset the uboots.

[@dubd7577]

Um, no. This is an extremely short summary and apologize for spelling. The wolf pack is a very specific type of sub warfare "battleplan" employed by the Kriegsmarine. Subs did not communicate to each other. They would communicate to "controllers" which HQ would keep track of sub positions, total duty time, how much time they have left without "resupply". Not all subs where the same, or would have the same "patrol time" and Patrol distance. Only 30% (on average) were combat "ready" at any one time due to the "rotation". Rotation meaning the amount of subs returning from tour, refitting and rearming, and sending out. Alas if they could reach their goal of "300", then 100 could be actively engaging at anyone time. The germans kept track of convoys expecetionlay well, especially in early phases of the war. They "prioritized" convoys, and new when they left american ports. The Kriegsmarine had certain "safe" zones where they would choose to attack. Places where there was no air cover from land or coastal patrols. The wolf pack battle plan was to position subs in these safe zones to provide maximum chance of sinkage of tonnage. Not just wait around. They could only stay out there for so long. They were sent out in "packs" [though they traveled alone] and given intercept positions to lay in wait and attack (at night usually). Wolfpack targets were very large convoys w/ higher priority tonnage. Even though subs didn't talk directly together, the battle plan was well planned and each one new its duty "in the pack". They would strike the convoy "together". Sometimes sending "wolfs" INSIDE the convoy to wreck massive damage. These attacks were coordinated in a sense to strike the convoys multiple times during days of attack. Eventually the convoys learned better convoy protection formations, coordinated turning and had "escort" convoys, better air cover which made the wolf pack have higher losses themselves. The wolfpack strategy then becomes more of a liability. So when one says "wolfpack", its designating a type of warfare/strategy during a specific time of the war. The wolfpack strategy was in itself a strategy put in place after previous ones where not providing the results needed and this wolfpack didn't last during the rest of the war. Losses became to high and the safe zones disappeared. Add to the fact that the enigma code was broken even though the Kriegsmarine had updated theirs coding alot during the war. (by adding more tumblers) For more basic ww2 wolfpack info search - Even though the battlefield docu series is full of errors and "cold war" inaccuracies its still worth a watch. Battlefield Season 2 Episode 2 The Battle for the Atlantic or Battlefield Season 6 Episode 3 The War against the U-boats.

[@danielberger1378]

11:30 "we can sing Sabaton".... hell yes 😁

[@ballisticarc]

Vertical scale on left side of periscope view goes 0-200, milliradian-meter chart goes 0-200 on top... I'm thinking you're supposed to identify the ship in the periscope, read height in meters for the reference page for the top of the stack/mast, measure the vertical milliradians in the periscope, and then cross reference and interpolate for distance. Horizontal length in periscope will change according to target ship aspect, but the height of the stack/mast never changes. EDIT: Ah, they changed to doing that around 42 minutes in.

[@grimreapers]

Thx, still learning.

[@hephaestus4587]

When Cap was rotating the scope to make sure no one was sneaking up on them I kept expecting to see Strombergs tanker The Liparus from The Spy Who Loved Me bearing down on them..... Swallowing them for his nefarious plans.... Just me then?

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@rubiconnn]

"Surface then we're going to get kortana looking at these guys and we're going to make a plan". lol she's at it again.

[@TheJedivendelbo]

omg Cortana have the perfekt intercom speaker voice !!

[@TheGimpy117]

having the periscope up t see above the horizon was one of the tactics the US fleet boats used to "sink em' all"

[@Goober_____]

So close to two hundred thousand 👏👏👏👏

[@zsavage1820]

Kortana was right... snapshot then dive.. makes the destroyer go on defensive first.. and give time to dive and rig for silent running..

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@jamesorth6460]

You might try to give a lead with the torpedoes with a spread out ever intervals ahead of a target ship

[@walk.with.the.force.like_Jedi]

CAP: BEST VIDEO YOU EVER MADE! PLEASE KEEP THESE COMING! HAD ME ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT THE WHOLE TIME! awesome video! Also, when you are taking the measurment of the length of the ship for range, this is only useful if you are perfect 90°/ parallel to the ship. Use hight measurment of highest part of ship for perfect distance calcs. every time. Cant wait for next mission!

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@voradfils]

Trying to figure out what the hell was going on with those reticle units was a major timesink and I regret getting into it more than anything else this week. Vertical scale on the attack periscope is in milliradians. I assume Kortana was smart enough to translate the readings correctly, otherwise your range estimation for the torpedoes was 10 times too short. I guess the horizontal scale is in degrees after all. There's an almost exact difference of 2 degrees in compass heading between 22:22 and 22:33. You would expect the scale to show 8 thanks to 4x zoom factor but the ship had the 10+ seconds to fall behind. I thought the 1.8 tick difference was a little much but it looks reasonable, now that I reviewed the footage for the nth time. Around that time, the ship's angle of view was therefore 3/4 degrees or 1.31 centiradians and if we assume that the 125 m long ship was perfectly parallel to you, it was 9.6 km away. 125/((3⁰/4)*pi/180*100) = 95.49...

[@grimreapers]

Roger will check the manual again but I swear it said centiradian on the vertical?

[@Mojje42]

@@grimreapers vertical is centigradians "Divide the height of the ship by the centiradians, and multiply by 4 if the periscope is zoomed in. This gives you the range to the ship in hectometers"

[@voradfils]

@@Mojje42 The manual is out of date. I assume that it's referring only to the observation periscope at this point. (50 / 1000)rad *(180⁰/pi)/rad = 2.8647...⁰, so 50 mrad looks about the same as 3⁰. 50 crad would be almost 29⁰.

[@toxicwarcat7739]

So CAP I don't know how accurate this is but when she says degrees to bow ask her to clarify or get clarification of the targets bow based on the map remember that you know the ships heading speed and length so if you do what damp did if you're unsure damp can give you a estimation too! Next remember your target is moving and will require you to predict its speed if it is faster or slower than you.

[@MauserMatt]

This was fun to watch! I look forward to the next one!!

[@timblack6422]

Teamwork makes the dream work !

[@klupeeteable]

aim in front of the target boat ,,, lol.. just like flying you have to do defection shooting ..lol .. fun to watch al of this though.. you learned a lot .. also the advice of me to go in darkness.. wel done..!!

[@christophero55]

Cap, as suggested by a few others, watch some of Wolfpack345's videos on this game. You can pick up exactly what to do from watching one or two of those videos. For instance how to estimate the speed of enemy vessels.

[@vec306]

I’m going to watch this again and again. Great job Cap & crew.

[@rhysgoodman7628]

Grump quoting a Sabaton lyric unnoticed. 😂 “We could sing Sabaton” Cap: *”No!”*

[@Uriel77200]

Is Katana military or former military. She is my favorite. So professional.

[@grimreapers]

Neg, just that kind of person.

[@timblack6422]

Das Boot! The dream team!

[@Chio_OB]

You have a smart crew Captain!

[@seanpreston3653]

Also pull down periscope when above water, easily seen

[@Vograx]

Probably covered already, but guessing the torpedoes missed because the speed of the target was not entered into TDC? At least I never heard a speed being called out, only ranges.

[@mitchburdge8319]

Hope to see more Cap. maybe next time we will get to see some RN and some more boom boom. stay safe

[@TheChadXperience909]

That ocean sure seems eerily placid.

[@jamesmcamis8556]

As best I could tell from the video, Sub-1 under-lead the front target; that one sailed out of the way and the second sailed into the shots.

[@johnzengerle7576]

“And our friends are all aboard. Many more of them live next door.”

[@scottr9900]

Setting up an attack in a sub was a time-consuming and difficult technical exercise. Skipper and XO and Nav typically worked up the base course and speed.

[@scottr9900]

Salinity and temperature also played a part and was never accounted for in these early fights.

[@scottr9900]

Also, you want to keep in mind that the crew you are using are doing some heavy thinking. Be ready to grab a cuppa, and also spell your conning staff as well. O’Kane also planned a big meal for the whole crew after an action.

[@justinreid2703]

That was badass all around!

[@craigcarter9513]

Did the tanker happen to sail into the "eels"? 🤔

[@scottmwilhelms2437]

There's apparently a distance table tab after the ship recognition tab when you press the "C" key.

[@ironman6527]

Keep 'em coming! These are great!

[@VideoServicesVB]

You need to invite Wolfpack345 to join your and learn from him. He's the king of convoy killers on KZbin. 👍

[@conmcgrath7174]

Absolutely! But it might seem like politely inviting the Queen around to shit in your bucket! He might not be motivated. Pax

[@Christian-zj2us]

Another good one is Taff in Exile, he’s quite good at submarine simulators as well.

[@conmcgrath7174]

@@Christian-zj2us Couldn't agree more (I gave him an honourable mention in a post after the first Grim Reapers video) I am subbed for both but in this case I was aiming for simple messages/advice. Pax

[@mfreed40k]

Really enjoy this series!

[@kevinzeh3559]

Hopefully everyone's friends were all aboard. Including the ones next door.

[@squireson]

Zoom on the periscope doesn't matter at all --- 3 degrees of angle is 3 degrees of angle no matter what magnification you are using. You should notice the scale changing when you change magnification such that what reads 3 degrees at 2X should be about three times as wide when you switch to 6X.

[@mayberus7612]

I love this game! I'm so happy to see you guys playing it

[@1KDave]

Need to lead a lot more… the torpedoes go straight but are affected by current and you have to aim to we’re the ship will be when the torpedo gets to it… not were it is when you fire.

[@lat78610]

Nice Sabaton Wolfpack ref Grump 🤘

[@kurtreichenbach8927]

Looks fun....i picked up the game hopefully i can get in on the next game. RB

[@grimreapers]

Sat 1900BST

[@alifeoncechris]

This is wildly complex.

[@michaelmccoy5622]

Comment from cortana about "wrong torpedo" data so i think you might have had a wrong torpedo speed and it was slower and you just got lucky hitting the rear one.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@markmastenbroek8959]

To further see how a tour on a sub goes more smoothly, watch some of Wolfpack345. You guys seem extremely anxious and chaotic, something that does work when youre fighting on the ground, but doesnt do much for submarine video reporting, sorry to say.

[@timblack6422]

Too cool! It’s a great day!