Integration in polar coordinates | MIT 18.02SC Multivariable Calculus, Fall 2010

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@rach3834
@rach3834 5 жыл бұрын
This was honestly so so so helpful. From the bottom of my heart, thank you thank you THANK YOU so much. We need more tutors like you.
@m.donnediego587
@m.donnediego587 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you subtitle what you speak, it's helpful for me.
@AldenRyno
@AldenRyno 13 жыл бұрын
@marcuswauson The integrand is [cos(theta)-(1/2)*cos(theta)] but when integrated, it becomes [sin(theta)-(1/2)*sin(theta)] from zero to pi/4. When evaluated equals sqrt(2)/2 - sqrt2)/4 = sqrt(2)/4
@rthelionheart
@rthelionheart 4 жыл бұрын
In my school they simply say: evaluate the following integral just as given in part (a) above. It is entirely ALL UP TO YOU how you approach it. Of course one method makes life a whole lot easier than say compared to another one. It is expected that you know which method to use accordingly.
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@VocalBeast
@VocalBeast Жыл бұрын
Man thank you so much, literally the first time i actual properly understood polar coordinate transformations despite trying to wrap my head around it for like 3 months. Appreciate you!!!
@ianmoseley9910
@ianmoseley9910 7 жыл бұрын
makes me realise how much I have forgotten in the 40+ years since uni. Expressing the integral in that graphic form was not something we were taught and it really helps me to grasp the whole concept; would have grokked so much more if we had been!
@ashtongaeta2581
@ashtongaeta2581 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I have to study at home because of the corona virus. This came in so clutch!!
@mitocw
@mitocw 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@sairajbhosale3984
@sairajbhosale3984 10 ай бұрын
This was so helpful to solve questions. My professor just solve 3-4 easy questions and left us with such questions Thanks a lot sir ..
@wssz112
@wssz112 8 жыл бұрын
dam now i want to go to MIT
@shi_shii_
@shi_shii_ 4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't?
@martinrosol7719
@martinrosol7719 8 ай бұрын
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@Jameel263
@Jameel263 13 жыл бұрын
@PeaceUdo Question a and b) The upper bound for y is y=x. The line y = x is always at a 45 degree (pi/4) angle with the x axis. If you dont get why, then for example lets say y = x = n (as y=x) then tan θ = n/n tan θ = 1 therefore θ=45 degree (pi/4)
@DeprecatedAPI
@DeprecatedAPI 6 жыл бұрын
This was really awesome, thanks! Helped me in my end sems!!
@oliverbrace4505
@oliverbrace4505 11 жыл бұрын
dude, you`re awesome, i was able to do my homework thanks to you
@anikethsridhargund6671
@anikethsridhargund6671 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I was struggling to solve a problem related usage of polar coordinates in my assignment, but now i solved it in just 5min. thanks once again!
@alexandresauve7560
@alexandresauve7560 11 жыл бұрын
yes; and this is how we deal with it. find the range of angles for which r is negative, split these segments away from your first integral and put a negative sign in front in order to find the area. example r=cos(theta) from 0 to 2pi gives negative r from pi/2 to 3pi/2. the area enclose by r=cos(theta) = integral of rcos(thta) from 3pi/2 to pi/2 plus (-) integral cos(thta) from pi/2 to 3pi/2. integrating the original function from o to 2pi gives 0 if you ignore the fact r goes negative.
@muhammadzeeshankhan7251
@muhammadzeeshankhan7251 8 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained, I liked your teaching.
@MCSPT117
@MCSPT117 12 жыл бұрын
Because he has (1/r^3) r drdΘ, if you combine that r with (1/r^3) it would have a negtive power if you put it over one, (r has a power of one), therefore it becomes (1/r^(3-1)... and becomes 1/r^2. Hope this helps.
@23StudiosSports
@23StudiosSports 3 жыл бұрын
That helps sp much you have no idea, you are a legend.
@morgard211
@morgard211 4 жыл бұрын
These are actually very instructive excercises.
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@NickZachPattyWack
@NickZachPattyWack 12 жыл бұрын
Not only do the brilliant students of MIT get excellent student teachers, but I can't understand majority of what my teacher says through his thick accent...and no my school is not well known even in the city that it resides in. Thanks David and MIT!
@benn7139
@benn7139 7 жыл бұрын
his chalk is so big
@vtace1
@vtace1 6 жыл бұрын
it's sidewalk chalk, writes better.
@Tech4GamingIndia
@Tech4GamingIndia 6 жыл бұрын
brother this is MIT
@PunkHippie1971
@PunkHippie1971 5 жыл бұрын
It’s girthy
@captainobvious1415
@captainobvious1415 4 жыл бұрын
“Chalk”
@sambalder9343
@sambalder9343 4 жыл бұрын
mmmm
@suruchisolanki3603
@suruchisolanki3603 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot MIT. I've finally understood the concept!!!
@meerismailali6082
@meerismailali6082 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t just cancel the r in 10:45. You solve for quadratic
@shreyassahu6930
@shreyassahu6930 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best explanations for this topic.
@LICKSandWINKS
@LICKSandWINKS 11 жыл бұрын
I have an advanced calc exam on Tuesday AND YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER ILY
@gabrieltmapondera9697
@gabrieltmapondera9697 7 жыл бұрын
how is dxdy equal to rdrdθ
@adellewilliams3266
@adellewilliams3266 7 жыл бұрын
to prove this , we use jacobian method. And we all know that from cartessian to polar coordinate , x=cos@ and y=sin@ then dxdy change to drd@ and apply this to jacobian matrix (dx/dr dx/d@ , dy/dr dy/d@) then we get rdrd@
@molkgfmf5699
@molkgfmf5699 7 жыл бұрын
or... dA = (dr) (ds)? = (dr) d(rθ) = r (dr) (dθ) = (dx) (dy)
@AkashYadav-mr4hg
@AkashYadav-mr4hg 6 жыл бұрын
use Jacobian
@JamilKhan-hk1wl
@JamilKhan-hk1wl 6 жыл бұрын
There is a simpler method to understand that, dxdy is actually a very small square. So its equal to rdrdtheta
@АзХашми
@АзХашми 6 жыл бұрын
Look up the Jacobian for polar coordinates
@st.johntsuno-wayne2489
@st.johntsuno-wayne2489 2 жыл бұрын
only in Calc BC trying to solve an argument with a friend when i found this… video made the concepts simple to understand and was extremely informative!
@rkumaresh
@rkumaresh 6 жыл бұрын
What a simple explanation which everyone could understand
@gnauhandy
@gnauhandy 13 жыл бұрын
@marcuswauson you're evaluating 1/2 sin theta from 0-Pi/4.
@jbonn5
@jbonn5 13 жыл бұрын
@maplestorypl He wrote it correctly. dA becomes r dr dtheta so the integral does become 1 / r^2.
@HimanshuShekhar13s
@HimanshuShekhar13s 6 жыл бұрын
Mindblowing explanation! Thanks!
@WolfBoyBenRawr
@WolfBoyBenRawr 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you David!! This was extremely helpful !
@aidenblack4755
@aidenblack4755 5 жыл бұрын
How does he go from integral of 1/r^3 to the integral of 1/r^2 in one movement... 6:30-7:10 ??
@jeskomargargot3454
@jeskomargargot3454 5 жыл бұрын
The r in rdrd∅ cancels one of the R's in (1/r³)
@aidenblack4755
@aidenblack4755 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeskomargargot3454 Thank you sir! I watched this before the chapter was introduced in my course, makes sense now.
@edwinsebastianperezrodrigu8659
@edwinsebastianperezrodrigu8659 3 жыл бұрын
First time i watch a MIT class and i understand everything
@Dhavalc2011
@Dhavalc2011 11 жыл бұрын
Best ! Like IT ! Simply ,straight forward and lucid :D
@joshie92
@joshie92 12 жыл бұрын
the -(1/r) can be changed to (1/r) if you swap the limits of integration, which is what he did here.
@vychuck
@vychuck 10 жыл бұрын
Well done young man, really nailed it
@ananyarathore4678
@ananyarathore4678 2 жыл бұрын
loveddd ittt!!! thankyouuu so much david sir
@riya6549
@riya6549 4 жыл бұрын
is this the same as multiple integrals? im just starting out and im very confused...
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@marcuswauson
@marcuswauson 13 жыл бұрын
cos of 0 is not 0, cos of 0 is 1, your answer to a should be (squareroot of 2) minus 2 all over 4. As cos of 0 is one, and one minus a half should give you squareroot of 2 over four minus a half.
@anuraagkaravadi1640
@anuraagkaravadi1640 9 жыл бұрын
limits explanation was awesome --which obviously is the heart and soul of the prob...lol in C in forgot to put square root.........
@rain74925
@rain74925 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think you articulate it really well. That's awsome! Wish you're my prof. Not to be disrespectful, but are you an undergraduate? You look like a peer.
@erikumble
@erikumble 3 жыл бұрын
In the introduction video of the TAs, David was a graduate student. Of course, that was 10 years ago.
@QuantumDisciple7
@QuantumDisciple7 12 жыл бұрын
Very nicely demonstrated. I appreciate it!
@sajathsalim261
@sajathsalim261 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh.. Our IIT is world's best in terms of proffessor knowledge
@MohitSharma-wt9ex
@MohitSharma-wt9ex 6 жыл бұрын
bro iit nahi VO MIT ka he . aur MIT no 1 he world me
@usamafarooqi7292
@usamafarooqi7292 2 жыл бұрын
Brillient.... Absolutly great
@AbhayArsekar
@AbhayArsekar 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much David ❤️
@bs04anishmakhija18
@bs04anishmakhija18 4 жыл бұрын
IMAGINE Playing Chalk Fight with this MIT chalks😂😂😁🙈
@VikasSingh-cv2fu
@VikasSingh-cv2fu 8 жыл бұрын
Good job bro. You really explain well.
@Wasteomindy
@Wasteomindy 7 жыл бұрын
6:31 how do we know that dydx becomes rdrdθ?
@adellewilliams3266
@adellewilliams3266 7 жыл бұрын
we change from cartessian to polar coordinate , to prove this use jacobian matrix then you will get the answer
@Paulovrish7334
@Paulovrish7334 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, it makes perfect sense
@HomoSapiensMember
@HomoSapiensMember 6 жыл бұрын
this helped me, thanks so much!
@syoushiro1837
@syoushiro1837 6 жыл бұрын
at 10:33, you should not cancel the variable r because you miss the answer r = 0.
@petelok9969
@petelok9969 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I need more practice to understand how to identify the sector which is to be integrated. Do you have a preceding video that demonstrates this?
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@quratulainfatima109
@quratulainfatima109 7 жыл бұрын
Explained beautifully........
@platinumk
@platinumk 12 жыл бұрын
nice and concise. thank you david
@hargeysasomaliland4374
@hargeysasomaliland4374 12 жыл бұрын
Best lecture . Thanks for your kindly helping
@arpanbanerjee5659
@arpanbanerjee5659 5 жыл бұрын
8:14 : incorrrect calculation, it is actually sqrt(2)/4 -1
@GradientSoln-En
@GradientSoln-En 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, just thank you.
@noahmckeever9059
@noahmckeever9059 9 жыл бұрын
In part a) why do you go from 1/r^3 to 1/r^2?
@AlexVX_
@AlexVX_ 9 жыл бұрын
he multiplied 1/r^3 by the r from "r dr d theta", leaving 1/r^2
@femiairboy94
@femiairboy94 7 жыл бұрын
So how do you solve this if e^-x^2 is multiplied by Cos(bx) with respect to x
@HereToday32
@HereToday32 10 жыл бұрын
how do you know the maximum line is pi/4?
@jeffreychang2293
@jeffreychang2293 10 жыл бұрын
Look at a unit circle. You see that y = x is half of quadrant one and quadrant one is from 0 to pi/2. and half of that is pi/4 so you get theta = pi/4 as your max theta value.
@pudingstorm1
@pudingstorm1 8 жыл бұрын
Than you man, great video, simple and nice explanation :D
@FirstGradeCalculus
@FirstGradeCalculus 13 жыл бұрын
Great videos, David. Thanks kindly!
@johnpwnsyou
@johnpwnsyou 11 жыл бұрын
No. There are several reasons why. First, r is a length, which logically can't be negative. Second, If you look at the formula, r=(x^2+y^2)^(1/2), you'll realize that there's no way for it to be negative since it's components are all squared.
@valkarez1137
@valkarez1137 5 жыл бұрын
youre stupid
@sreekarg9553
@sreekarg9553 5 жыл бұрын
You’re replying to another comment aren’t you?
@prakharuttarpradesh3517
@prakharuttarpradesh3517 Жыл бұрын
Thank you professor You cleared all my doubts 🙏🙏 Dhanyawad and Namaskar
@русскийпартизан-ь6п
@русскийпартизан-ь6п 7 жыл бұрын
I loved it! Thanks so much!!!
@Chaselwatitus
@Chaselwatitus 4 жыл бұрын
explain more on how you find those limits. pie over 4. how did you find it
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@DoggoWillink
@DoggoWillink 12 жыл бұрын
yeah, he didn't realize it was 1/r^3 when he re-wrote it
@ricardinhovorkes4876
@ricardinhovorkes4876 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you I appreciate it a lot. Nice instructor very helpful
@nuklearboysymbiote
@nuklearboysymbiote 5 жыл бұрын
How to explain why dydx becomes rdrdθ ?
@PollyBunch
@PollyBunch 5 жыл бұрын
Professor Leonard has a full explanation about it.
@mallakbasheersyed1859
@mallakbasheersyed1859 4 жыл бұрын
Denis Auroux multivariable calculus lect 16, 17, 18, 19
@joeferreira-qr7iq
@joeferreira-qr7iq Жыл бұрын
the one thing i think that is missing when converting is that the F function at the end is not a function of x, y but r, theta you cant just plug in f given a function of x,y when in polar form
@anjaneyasharma322
@anjaneyasharma322 3 жыл бұрын
Students note double or triple integration does not give correct results. Follow simple integration. The question is why count something twice as it happens in double triple integration.
@vrendus522
@vrendus522 11 жыл бұрын
To the instructor, thank you.
@vinitamaharaj5738
@vinitamaharaj5738 7 жыл бұрын
Really helpful, thank you!
@MayankSharma-qd9ny
@MayankSharma-qd9ny 3 жыл бұрын
Finally understood the concept
@hasanabs
@hasanabs 2 жыл бұрын
Does the last example diverge? Because the the internal integration integral[r=0,r=2sin(theta)] r^-2 dr = -1/r | [r=0,r=2sin(theta)] = -(1/2sin(theta)-1/0) = diverge
@sumballaboi
@sumballaboi 12 жыл бұрын
great video mate, really helpful!!
@Lagos3sgte
@Lagos3sgte 12 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really helpful.
@BlazeCyndaquil
@BlazeCyndaquil 11 жыл бұрын
On the first one, shouldn't the result have been sqrt(2)/4 - 1/2? Wouldn't you have to subtract off the (1 - 1/2) from the lower bound of theta?
@pedroff_1
@pedroff_1 7 жыл бұрын
I think somewhere in the middle of a.), you accidentally replaced 1/r^3 with 1/r^2 ...
@sumeepriya5454
@sumeepriya5454 4 жыл бұрын
Watch it again its correct
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 4 жыл бұрын
It was subtle but you have to watch out for the 1/r^3 r dr dtheta. The r in the nominator position crosses out one of the rs in the denominator leaving 1/r^2 dr dtheta.
@zeldadu09
@zeldadu09 11 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! Greetings from GT!!!
@beercity123
@beercity123 13 жыл бұрын
Worth the watch! Very helpful!
@_tasneem7378
@_tasneem7378 3 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful. Super clear!
@moasfco11
@moasfco11 13 жыл бұрын
thanks very helpful examples
@thomaswong8124
@thomaswong8124 5 жыл бұрын
At 7:05 he messed up and put 1/r^2 not 1/r^3
@hellooobruh9398
@hellooobruh9398 2 ай бұрын
He is correct only
@olezhkoo
@olezhkoo 8 күн бұрын
He simplified r/r^3
@deepakkumarchandel2444
@deepakkumarchandel2444 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent no one able to tell how limits of polar are going on.🙏
@Dineshkumar-xv4xz
@Dineshkumar-xv4xz 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you so much mit
@Artictundra422
@Artictundra422 3 жыл бұрын
for the last one the int.val is not just from 0 to pi?
@ElectricTeaCup
@ElectricTeaCup 3 жыл бұрын
If you look at the initial bounds of x; they go from 0 to sqrt(2y-y^2). So think of the integral as slices across x from the horizontal x=0 to the x value determined by the equation. Thus overall, this means that the region R is on the right side of the x=0 horizontal line (y axis) and thus the right side of the circle which has bounds 0 to pi/2.
@alaamansour7271
@alaamansour7271 9 жыл бұрын
In c, shouldn't theta be from 0 to pi.. Since it's half a circle?
@mg3byte
@mg3byte 9 жыл бұрын
Alaa M No, he is correct. Pi is equal to 180 degrees, and you can see that half a circle makes 90 degrees.
@krishnaghorai8146
@krishnaghorai8146 6 жыл бұрын
Good base ,so love you sir!
@marciah4434
@marciah4434 4 жыл бұрын
how do we know theta goes all the way up to pi/4 ?
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@llama-pr6dn
@llama-pr6dn 3 жыл бұрын
year late response but we know a 90 degree angle makes us go to pi/2, and because y=x makes a 45 degree angle, we can say it is half of pi/2 (which is equal to pi/4) edit: you can also convert it to polar form ; y=r(sin(theta)) & x=r(cos(theta)) . you set the two equal to each other because y =x and you'll get tan inverse = 1, which gets you pi/4
@freakingik2781
@freakingik2781 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back
@thecivilizedguy8425
@thecivilizedguy8425 5 жыл бұрын
Very clear teaching!
@মহাপুরুষ-ঝ৭হ
@মহাপুরুষ-ঝ৭হ 2 жыл бұрын
Sir plz help to make this in polar:double integral y=1 to 2,x=0 to 1 (1/x^2+y^2)dxdy
@nitesjung1274
@nitesjung1274 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much kind sir.
@beoptimistic5853
@beoptimistic5853 3 жыл бұрын
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@matthewskatuta1305
@matthewskatuta1305 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work
@nafa1531
@nafa1531 8 жыл бұрын
In part a) how did he know that theta is pi/4?? I read in the comments someone wrote that y=x is half of the first quadrant and the first quadrant is pi/2 so half of that is pi/4... but what if I don't know that y=x is half of the first quadrant?
@jahremmardila6240
@jahremmardila6240 8 жыл бұрын
+Nafa1 My thought is to draw an arbitrary line with equation: x=# that will intersect the line, y=x. This would give you a right triangle, so you can find where they intersect for the y value, then solve for theta.
@abdullayafaee7847
@abdullayafaee7847 8 жыл бұрын
+Nafa1 you can also substitute y with rsin(theta) and x with rcos(theta). then you get rsin(theta)=rcos(theta), now solve for theta , r's cancel , sin/cos = tan(theta) = 1 Do inverse tan and solve for angle theta and you get same answer.
@l1mmg0t
@l1mmg0t 3 жыл бұрын
I am an old man now. seems I can understand this better than my young age. feel like to go back to school.
@aman2426
@aman2426 7 жыл бұрын
This is a graphical approach, which is fine, but can this be done directly by looking at the Cartesian bounds of integration i.e without Graphing the regions?
@junior214223
@junior214223 8 жыл бұрын
How did you know which point ot use to find r? in the first example you used x=1 and x=2 to find r =sec and 2sec. but in the second and third example you used the y=x and y=x^2 rather than using the x=0 and x=1, just confusing stuff like that makes me get different points of integration
@derek-rogers
@derek-rogers 8 жыл бұрын
i also was very confused by that. he tried to be clever in the first example rather than just using a consistent method. if you take x=1 as the lower bound function and swap in the polar coordinates, you get r*cos(theta)=1. solving for r gets you 1/cos(theta) i.e. sec(theta). Same for the upper bound of x=2.
@TheZakihunk
@TheZakihunk 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Did anyone figure out a general way to do this? :/
@TheZakihunk
@TheZakihunk 7 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. I found the solution. He didn't explain this but here it is: The on which theeta is changing is the one we use to find the upper limit for r. Just simply equate that curve by replacing x and y with rsin(0) and rCos(0) respectively. In the first part, theeta was changing on x=1 so he used that to find the r's limits. In the second and third, you can see what i mean.
@language_loom
@language_loom 5 жыл бұрын
How did you get theta equal to π/4 ???
@chinmayr3924
@chinmayr3924 5 жыл бұрын
Bro put x=rcos(theta) any y=rsin(theta) in y=x and you will get π/4
@language_loom
@language_loom 5 жыл бұрын
@@chinmayr3924 ohh😮
@LinaAhmadfuuuu
@LinaAhmadfuuuu 5 жыл бұрын
This video helps me for my calculus 3 paper tomorrow!! Thanks a lot 💖
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Try this prank with your friends 😂 @karina-kola
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