Mixing Hip Hop Vocals with 2 Plugins: Jeff Ellis (Doja Cat, Frank Ocean)

[@0letdown0]

Would it kill you to level match the before and after at 6:41 Waves? It's 2023.

[@minimumviablepizza]

I love Jeff's minimal relaxed approach to engineering, I also have this plugin and it has heaps of potential.

[@lyncboy]

Instead of saying if you have seven plugins on a vocal you're doing something wrong, he should have said if you have seven vocal plugins that you're using there is an easier way..

[@whodisguy7003]

It also helps to have vocals that are recorded well in a pro studio with a pro engineer. Versus some of us who have to mix vocals recorded in a bedroom on budget gear.

[@otocolobus8187]

@@whodisguy7003 Of course, dude has tracking gear worth 10 times everything I possess and question my need to cook my vocals a tad more. Tho he just works in a fancy studio for very long, good for him.

[@whodisguy7003]

@@otocolobus8187 Absolutely the same over here my guy

[@FADY-MAALOUF]

Thank you for your review. With all due respect and considering the unique challenges faced by a rapper, it might be challenging to assess this plugin's suitability with an artist limited to a 3-note vocal range, as it may not fully encompass the spectrum required for singers.

[@daddyslittlejunkies]

"vocal range" you are kind.

[@Chu_the_Master]

I have a gut feeling that a lot of people who hated Waves still miss Waves...

[@baub58]

It would be nice to hear this demonstrated with a singer.

[@johnplainsong9769]

A rapper. Not a singer.

[@ZimonHolmbergAudio]

Wait, hold up. You're saying if you're using more than 7 plugins you're doing something wrong? Yet the two plugins you're using in this showcase has a combined plugin force of 7 plugs? Silk vocals is a dynamic EQ, De-esser-ish and a compressor. The magma plugin consist of four plugins in one. Harmonic distorter, EQ, compressor and a gate. So, seven plugins in two. And not to speak of the "analog plugins" (hardware gear) used while recording? I'm just pointing this out to the people getting discouraged here that this statement is, well, weird. Keep mixing with your ears people and use whatever you need to get the sound you want. :)

[@sonsblanco]

Completely agree man, most of us have to deal with untreated room conditions, background noises and budget gear. The source signal for Jeff was already outstanding so ofc it didn't require the world to fix it

[@jaydabliu]

Exactly.

[@NICOSTYLOS]

I like it a lot !!! 🎉

[@joelonsdale]

A good demo should be before/after level matched or all we hear is LOUDER. Interesting video and I now know how to use the thing, but level-matching is CRITICAL in a demo.

[@NRVE8]

I did a video on East West Studios, didnt even see this room! lol

[@plentygocrazy8056]

The song sounding good is it out yet?

[@MKD371]

If the signal is recorded through the right mic for the job and a good mic, through a good pre amp and board, then much less processing with plugins is needed. Simple as that.

[@anuragdixit473]

Can we use this plugin like 'Soothe 2' or 'Pro Q3' as a sidechain effect where the plugin suppresses/ reduces the problematic resonances? Thank you for sharing the above video!

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

That’s exactly what it’s doing

[@NRVE8]

not from within the plugin... youd have to set it up through your daw.. i made a video on this plugin and that was one of my complaints as well

[@johnplainsong9769]

Soothe 2 is no longer needed. Silk is better and much cheaper!

[@foodstampz]

I want to thank Waves for giving out Silk plugin for free Black Friday..what an amazing from the best plug in / hardware audio company ever 👐

[@NovaBro.]

I enjoy the choice of words "finesse the mid range" 😂

[@foodstampz]

Wow..im very interested in those Kali audio monitors.. what are the black Kali ones on the other console ?

[@heyimoolox]

did he have an eq on the vocal before using silk?

[@Numocron]

Wow man this is amazing I love it.😃👍❤️

[@FinancialThing]

Sweet video

[@vmtz2001]

Wish he would have focussed on just the vocals and spotting the resonances

[@khngai]

May I know the order of the plugins ? Magma Tube Channel first ? or silk vocal first ?

[@starwaystudiospro]

Would be better to place Silk first (because silk is cleaning things up and setting the vocal good.. before the Magma adds more gain, saturation and mojo :) #HappyMixing

[@khngai]

@@starwaystudiospro Thank you

[@d3zan946]

Great video! But we gotta admit it sounded great from the start haha

[@bogelmanDDD]

Отличный плагин!

[@stserge]

To be honest I don't hear the difference when he's demonstrating vocal with and without the plugin...

[@guitarayito]

What are those white speakers ? What brand are those ?

[@airhosa]

Kali Audio IN 8.... that speaker has a very flat response

[@AutPen38]

People that choose speakers based on their frequency response are weird. Real pros choose monitors that match the colour of the plugin they're shilling.

[@AutPen38]

People that choose speakers based on their frequency response are weird. Real pros choose monitors that match the colour of the plugin they're shilling.

[@bossmanmusic1600]

Lol that definetly doesnt sound finished but good effort

[@youngregin]

Is he using these plugins on a bus channel?

[@waves]

Yes, he is.

[@JSSTUDIO-wr2jq]

🙂👍

[@SallyT.]

This video is complete SCHMALTZ.

[@henryklein4978]

That tool does not make this music ;-)

[@gobrad]

I cannot understand why you would pick a rapper over a singer to demonstrate a vocal plugin… If I was doing this I’d pick a person who could actually sing!!!!!

[@romandricardo]

It’s almost like, just almost, a rapper is vocalist

[@romandricardo]

I hate y’all music elitist who are really just closeted racists. If you don’t like rap music why even take the time to comment. Millions of videos out there that can actually help you if you actually cared to learn

[@gobrad]

@@romandricardo because the video had potential, whereas rapers cannot sing!! They sound like epilepsy on speed!! It’s dreadful!!!

[@crystal.argentina]

ok, now sounds louder, waves sucks with demonstrations

[@johnnydelaware2862]

Love the minimalist approach. Dude kinda annoys me though. Acts like he knows everything while using a cheap ass waves plug-in 😂

[@romandricardo]

Bro engineered frank oceans blonde😭 he def knows a thing or two. Also, waves plugins are great. Some pros use stock plugins if they like it. Has nothing to do with price

[@blakejames9952]

Is this really what people are listening to now days? The mix is fine, the music is terrible.

[@ДианаКоролёва-б4г]

intelligente girl 51

[@GSP.beats.]

This isn't hip hop. This is 4 on the floor. Rapping doesn't make it hip hop. Decent vid tho.

[@romandricardo]

Rapping is literally the only category that makes it hip hop🤦‍♂️ since when was hip hop based on specific instrumental elements. Three six mafia, playboi carti, biggie, Drake, death grips, earl sweatshirt, Kanye. All hip hop.