Mixing in Superior Drummer 3 vs. DAW: My Workflow Explained (Part 1/2)

[@springgyfit4414]

Thank you so much Luke!! I’m actually learning everything about SD3 with you.. I’ve been watching every video that you have about SD3 and it has helped me a bunch!

[@MikeLuke]

Glad I could help!

[@ThePanchomack]

Same here ;)!

[@MarkuzP66]

Nice Video Mike as always! I can't understand those trolls, who wrote such negative comments and thumbs down to such great and helpful videos!

[@MikeLuke]

Thanks Markus! Well, we live in a free world with free opinions (thank God), so I respect anyone’s opinion here. 😉

[@StevenMikel1]

The guitar in the verse section sounds just like the Local H song Bound for the Floor

[@brentpaul]

StevenMikel1 I thought the same too. Did they keep it copacetic?

[@SydneyDrums]

You learn to accept it ... jus sayin’

[@PaulEubanks]

It's not even an inspiration, it's just a straight up rip-off.

[@John-cp9ez]

Be of the bald toothless

[@kevinmccarthy4088]

Nice presentation, Mike. I have pretty much been following a similar workflow but this added some great insights that both confirm what I've been doing and also adding in lots of information which I hadn't come across until now. I pretty much use Cubase exclusively and this all translates perfectly to that workflow. One observation is that the Drums window is Drummer perspective which makes it more intuitive to use during the instrument selection phase of the setup if the mix is being handled the same way.

[@MikeLuke]

Cheers Kevin. Glad you liked it.

[@thebutton7932]

good clear lesson. . thanks Mike

[@stevenmreinhardt]

appreciate the vid, just subbed ❤

[@mochs3869]

Great video! Already subscribed to wait for part 2, and I for one would like to see the whole song mixed as well!

[@MikeLuke]

Hi Mike, thanks for watching. I will consider uploading a full mix tutorial on this. It's a fun song to mix.

[@mochs3869]

@@MikeLuke Being only a drummer and not playing any melodic instruments, nor am I a songwriter and not in a band, it would be nice to find stems of full songs to download and practice mixing on.

[@MikeLuke]

Mike Ochs Search „Telefunken Live from the Lab“ on KZbin. Telefunken is a manufacturer of microphones and the regularly host bands to record in their premises and with each video you get access to the multitrack recording of that particular songs. Two more advantages: You see HOW they play it and the recordings sound very good due to the high quality mics they used.

[@mochs3869]

@@MikeLuke I subscribed to the Telefunken site and have previewed some tracks...they sound so good already I wonder if these are straight off the mic sounds or if they've already been processed...nothing left to really do with them but balance the tracks. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

I never really messed or adjusted the panning. Might try it but it was a good tip to adjust the volume first before adding compression or reverb!!

[@MikeLuke]

Hey Zax, yes, I'd recommend doing this. You'll see how your sound with probably get even better.

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

@@MikeLuke are talking about panning or adjusting the volume levels? The volume levels I adjust and you gave me a tip a long time ago about the db levels

[@tkstudios2837]

Very Cool Video Mike! I look forward to Part 2! I am so happy you released this video. I started doing this technique of routing all the mics out to their own outputs into my DAW so I could have more control over the sound via my Waves plugins. So far, the results have been outstanding. I look forward to seeing your next steps and picking up some useful tips in the next vid! Would you use things like parallel compression or 3rd party reverb on some of the drums? Really curious to your approach. Thanks!

[@MikeLuke]

Hi, thanks for commenting. Yes, I'm probably using parallel processing (not only on the drums) and maybe some reverb.

[@tkstudios2837]

@@MikeLuke Awesome! Hope you show how you set that up in the next video. Thanks for the reply!

[@Harrysound]

Really useful stuff in this video.

[@MikeLuke]

Cheers mate 🙌🏻

[@Harrysound]

@@MikeLuke I can understand why you left the channel but it’s nice you left the channel as it was.

[@randydevel]

great channel !!

[@carlosring]

Hey your voice reminds me of eytschpi had to listen twice :)

[@oscaralonsorojas]

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge! (:

[@MikeLuke]

Thank you for watching!

[@whiskerbiscuit6674]

Do you know how to animate the hihat opening and closing off the cc4 track automation track? I can't get SD3 to follow it?

[@swamibrahmavadin5234]

Brilliant thanks!

[@kevinmccarthy4088]

Hey Mike, as a new producer learning during Covid how to put together pieces without a live drummer, these videos are gold, thanks for them. I have a question, though. I see you have EZDrummer in your Dock, is there a reason you use it as a separate application in addition to Superior Drummer?

[@MikeLuke]

Hey Kevin, thanks for watching. Well, basically two reasons: 1. When I just want to work briefly on a song idea by creating a MIDI loop, I usually open EZDrummer as it‘s lighter in CPU and faster. 2. I often make reviews about EZX expansions for EZDrummer2, so it‘s better to showcase them in that way.

[@drumam]

Excellent content, Mike!! What about making a video with respect editing edrums in SD3 x DAW? I am currently using Reaper but I cannot control hi-hat notes on it. Do you have any tips for that?

[@MikeLuke]

Hi Roger, sorry, must have missed your suggestion. That's a great idea, I will consider this. Thank you!

[@metallicpearl]

Hello, are you talking about the open/closed articulations?

[@ReverseMortgageVideos]

Thanks for video! I'm a newbie and have created my first drum parts in mixer, now I'll i want is to bounce a STEREO MIX. All the videos say when I save new structure then select Track them bounce that it will create a audio stereo mix but all of does is create all separate audio files. What am I missing? I'm not using my DAW just want the stereo mix from superior 3 that I've made, help please !! Thanx

[@Bigwoody95826]

I enjoy your videos, my questions is: Is it worth it, advantageous to click the function that allows SD3 to open a track for each part of the drumkit? I think it asks if you want this when you first add the SD3 vst to a track. What I don't like about it,is that it looks awkward when you have like idk 17 tracks there. Or maybe this should be used later for mix/mastering after all like you said it's better to start mixing from the SD3,if I understood correctly. Thanks, Rob

[@abolit]

Thanks for the video. IMHO it's too complicated. I'd rather prefer to see some tutorial about handling all the channels inside SP3 having one stereo output in DAW , So next time I just open the SD3, load the groove and go. I'm afraid after making the adjustments shown in this video my music inspiration would be totally killed.

[@MikeLuke]

Having all SD3 channels to one stereo out is the default anyway. ;)

[@abolit]

Thanks for the note...

[@mmirosha]

Hey Mike! Can you share your Reaper template for SD3 please? Thank you vey much for your work!)

[@DevonSpittleREAL]

I am a bit confused the way you routed 1/2. You said you wanted the kick in that channel, but you have a bunch of ambient mics in that channel as well?

[@jvices]

Hi Mike, is there a way to bounce the audio using the blend knob in tracker to get a mix of the audio drum with the midi drums? Regards,

[@MikeLuke]

Hi Jamie, that’s a good question. But honestly, I don’t think it’s possible. Because when bouncing SD3 just „listens“ to the actual samples or kit you picked.

[@np466]

Can anyone explain to me why Cymbal 5, which is as far to the right as possible, comes out of left speaker? Everything else is planned properly, but that one, which I have a China on, comes out of the left like it’s above the hi hat.

[@deathrules001]

Great Vide thx for that Mike. Question...do u use any fx from SD3? Or do u route only unprocessed Drums to your DAW?

[@MikeLuke]

I usually don’t use any FX from SD3. All I could do with them I have own and 3rd party plugins for.

[@deathrules001]

@@MikeLuke Thx, for answer. and what is about the bleeding, do u have all bleedings on for every mic and instrument ?

[@darkonestudio9897]

@@deathrules001 thats a good question, i have to try out a lot now to find the best workflow for me. @Mike Luke your Video help me a lot !!

[@MikeLuke]

deathrules001 It depends. Sometimes I use the bleeding, sometimes not. I once made a video about that topic as well. If you have a singer-songwriter track, enabling all the bleeding can add a certain „glue“ to the sound because this matches the song of live recorded acoustic drums. So if I use it, I do it on purpose and to have that effect. But keep in mind that mixing will get a bit more complicated then. Engineers usually try to reduce mic bleeding for good reasons ;)

[@darkonestudio9897]

@@MikeLuke Hi Mike, i found out that some Cymbal has a direct Mic Out and some don´t have it. I help me with this workflow, that i stay the mic in OV and then only use the Bleeding for this Extra CYMB Channel to get this as a direct Mic Out. This work well. so i stay all Cymb in the OV Stereo Mic but have also controll about my 4 Cymb (cause my TD 50 only have 4 Cymb) in the mix :)

[@mattfly68]

Hi Mike. Just wondering how did you get mono mic for snare bottom? I've tried to find it out all over internet with no success. Could you please share the tip? Thank you and best regards

[@MikeLuke]

Hi Marcin, the snare bottom mic in SD3 is stereo actually because they recorded it with two mics. Just use the panning knob in the SD3 mixer and bring it to the centre, this way it will create a mono signal. Hope it helps!

[@mattfly68]

@@MikeLuke Thank you for the reply. The view of your SD mixer just confused me so I wondered why is that. However I've noticed that we can find the real mono channel for snare bottom in some other sound libraries so why TT have chosen stereo? Best regards and thank you for the best SD tutorial👌

[@MikeLuke]

Well, it wasn’t Toontrack‘s decision in this case but the decision of the responsible recording engineer George Massenburg. There are benefits of having the snare bottom in stereo, even though it might be unusual.

[@mattfly68]

@@MikeLuke Clear enough, thank you

[@policeluber6720]

Can u change heads ? Drums sound as good as the heads

[@MyronDavismd]

How can I override the default midi map so that my custom map loads in SD3?

[@eranddroory9987]

super hard to see what drumset youre using on smaller displays. Which set are you using?

[@MikeLuke]

It’s a mixture. Gretsch kick drum and toms, Ludwig Black Beauty snare.

[@eranddroory9987]

@@MikeLukethanks Mike.. Awesome vids 🤘😎🤘

[@reesewaller846]

I have my macbook turned ALL THE WAY UP and I cant hear you. Seriously WTF?

[@The-CHVPTERS]

Meinl byzance?? Which a libery?

[@MikeLuke]

It’s called „Death & Darkness“, the latest one they released last November.

[@The-CHVPTERS]

@@MikeLuke snx , and I wait second parth this video)

[@PopGunEnt]

Local H?

[@MikeLuke]

Pardon?

[@Sweetsmcdudeman]

@@MikeLuke riff is very similar to a song by local h.

[@EricJamesVideo]

@@MikeLuke It's almost exactly Local H. Granted it being a Local H song, I learned quite a bit with this vid.

[@EyeOfThe_God]

24:49

[@John-cp9ez]

If one is of the bald then DAW if not toothless

[@jkessler410]

The Artist is just begging for a lawauit from Local H as it's a direct clone of "Bound for the Floor"

[@rocknrollmcdonals]

you just don't get it keep it copacetic

[@MaterialMike]

You blatantly getting paid or work for toontracks

[@MikeLuke]

No, I don’t.

[@MaterialMike]

@@MikeLuke I don't believe you, looking at your videos your a breathing billboard

[@MikeLuke]

Michael Dicker Okay, then don’t believe me.

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

Michael Dicker is it wrong to like a product and make videos about it? I have 130+ videos about the Headrush Pedalboard and never got paid for it.

[@melvinbrinson]

He’s a troll who cares. Love your toontrack videos Mike!