Mixing metal drums: Andrew Wade's legendary "DREAM GATE"!

[@URMAcademy]

Who has tried the DREAM GATE?? How did it work for you?

[@benonyoutube]

No-one, most likely, given the ridiculously destructive nature of it.

[@javiersands1184]

@@benonyoutube totally agree

[@KeepTheGates]

Damn, I'm surprised this went out for free.

[@KeepTheGates]

Joey Sturgis I'm an enhanced subscriber. About 3 months now and it's literally changed my life.

[@bebettoninja]

This absolutely solved my snare gate problems! Thank you Andrew!

[@devinbuchhorn]

All bow to the power of Sir Wade! Great video, can't wait to try this!

[@axrrecordings7256]

If you're working in Pro Tools 11, at least in the Native version, you can't do any of the fades Andrew is talking about. Any work around other than doing this clip by clip? Is HD absolutely necessary or just an upgrade?

[@jacobsmith1877]

Sound Radix Drum Leveler gives you the same results without being tedious or taking much of any time to set up.

[@Raztix]

How do i set each hit to the same length in cubase? cheers

[@contra-bassrecords874]

What's to stop you from making a parallel bus with a transient shaper, a fast gate and some hard compression to normalize? I feel like I'm missing something.

[@kebbinator]

Compression will affect the transient and a gate isn't as accurate as audio editing.

[@ABCDELEMENTARY]

i did this technique but i felt like i'm cheating myself, but now i just have to do what i think is the best for my recording technique! thank you so much!👍😁🤘

[@georgeseruset3515]

I'm stuck at the fade part. PT only gives the option for crossfades. not individual fades at the beginning of each region. any ideas?

[@Adam.Lovatt]

"If anyone knows an easier way to do this" A script in Reaper can do about half of that process with one button, does that count?

[@dcp10200]

Damn! I normally just automate the level down pre fader when the shell isn't playing ala Paul Levitt, what is the script called anyway?

[@Adam.Lovatt]

I've just added "Lokasenna_Trim items to specified length.lua" to ReaPack, so that part is taken care of. :) I believe there's a native action for normalizing per-item.

[@residenceemilia410]

no need for script.. select all items, open properties and set lenght, fade in and out in the top of the window

[@Adam.Lovatt]

You know, I looked through Item Properties and somehow missed that. Oops.

[@Cole-ek7fh]

sonar has a transient shaper plugin that does this.

[@BrandonofRedemption]

Fantastic information. Makes me want to use Pro Tools.

[@rocketman374]

B_Ontic you can do this is any DAW for what it's worth. I've done the very same thing in Reaper, but it's even easier.

[@BrandonofRedemption]

Winslow Whitten I actually use Reaper. Do they have an equivalent program to beat detective?

[@rocketman374]

B_Ontic yes its called Dynamic Split. You can use it to either split items at the transient (which is what you want to do here), or you can set it to insert stretch markers at the transients (which is what you'd do if you were doing drum editing or quantizing). Just search KZbin, there's lots of tutorials on it. Also, you can join Nail the Mix! We have a whole thread in our Facebook group on how to do this quickly in Reaper. 😉

[@javiersands1184]

Killing the drums in 3 2 1...

[@grunge2012]

more! those drums sounded amazing when I first heard 36

[@KevFeazey]

I can see this coming in handy for quite a lot of situations. However I can't get the batch trim to work for me. I'm in pt2019.6.0 and i can only nudge the regions. Selected with object tool, control and - on the numeric keypad still just nudges rather than trims. Any clues anyone?

[@dcduper]

same issues for me! sux

[@evenform]

anyone know if you can batch fade with out putting fades on the end with pro tools 10? this feature only seems be on pro tools 12????

[@HowAboutKaran]

Thanks for this! Just one question: Is there a reason that his nudge values are set to bars/beats? If the idea is to get all clips the same length, doesn’t it make more sense to do it in milliseconds or even samples?

[@caseymclane1972]

now show this to Glenn Fricker

[@HaitIsHere]

Glenn has some pretty valid principles on Art/Hardwork over stuff like this but the current average listener doesn't really have a preference of real drums over samples etc , records sold by bands mixed by Andrew are the proof, there's no "WRONG" way to do art.

[@hogblockula9335]

Let's do it. He might improve his shitty mixes for once

[@jobelewis6416]

Hog Blockula Just because they don’t sound like ultra sample replaced super performance compressed metalcore doesn’t make them shit. He preserves the performance better than many

[@hogblockula9335]

No, guys like Nolly or Jens Bogren do it. Glenn's just painfully mediocre.

[@ezassegai4793]

Oh man this Andrew Wade guy really knows how its done. He should produce popular metal core bands.

[@hellfirerecordsaus4414]

Is it control - to shorten or should it be command -?

[@iCombs]

HellFire Records Aus control on PC, Command on Mac. In Object mode, command selects nudges for the right side of the clip, and Option selects the left side.

[@tomvomton2371]

You can do the same thing in under one minute in Cubase. And even create a Macro and do it with one click.

[@FedericoAscariAudio]

hey, I'm using Cubase. Can you explain how you would do this? thank you

[@recordwithpash9105]

Yeah! Interested to know your workflow on this.

[@tomvomton2371]

Greg Ondo on the Cubase Channel is the best. Look for Multitrack Drum quantization and hitpoints.

[@Raztix]

HOW? I've been looking it up for ages and still can't find how to set each slice to the same length?

[@ovonisamja8024]

​@@Raztix kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJa1lmp_aayXZ9k

[@Hollidaycrusher]

sounds like a drummer is using his practice pad instead of a real drum kit...

[@bjornlakenstrazen2186]

My guess is that they knew ahead of time that they were going to trigger the kick and snare, so maybe they just used a pad so it wouldn't bleed into the ovh? Just a guess

[@pratherbby]

No practice pads used haha

[@bjornlakenstrazen2186]

Well there ya have it

[@pratherbby]

I just reread your comment and I get what you mean now haha. These are the raw tracks, but you blend those with room mics etc. so you get a real transient, and not the cymbal bleed so it allows the drums to be blended with samples and keep a natural feel without the bad sound of a normal gate

[@bjornlakenstrazen2186]

Okay. I think that @Holidaycrusher thought that the snare sounded like a mic'd practice pad (and it kind of does). And i have heard of people using pads on snares and kicks because it's so hard to get a great snare and kick sound. And if it bleeds into the ovhs with a crappy snare, it can just creat lots of problems when blending samples. But yes, I think i understand what you did here. :)

[@michaelhowerton9229]

Is this possible to do in reaper? If so could somebody give me some advice on how to utilize that function? Any advice is much appreciated:)

[@citralokaputri1969]

Genius ❤️

[@fricknoley]

Now to try and figure out how to do a similar thing in Cubase.

[@tordurhansen333]

I have done it...

[@fricknoley]

Tordur Hansen lets get that tutorial my dude

[@tordurhansen333]

Maybe I will?

[@LakshayKukreja11]

FUCKING GENIUS!

[@benonyoutube]

I do not understand. This is an awful lot of work for an average result. There are 100's of engineers out there who can produce a superior result with far less destructive techniques. Look at Taylor Larson, or Machine... I think far too many engineers now look for "that one cool trick" or glamourise over-engineered editing techniques, over just mic'ing up a kit properly and processing it using your ears.

[@joeyvaughan5157]

"How to fix an awful performance"

[@joeyvaughan5157]

K bro.

[@wesleysamples1615]

@@joeyvaughan5157 I agree, I think this is a ridiculous technique. To me it seems like there are better ways to level out the amplitude without affecting the sound that isn't so lifeless.

[@LaminarSound]

This made me realize just how little I know about Pro Tools and ive been working in it for over a decade. lmao... that said, rather than go through all this bullshit, why not just use a damn drum sample plugin? Youre basically making it sound just like samples anyways....

[@woundedmonk1884]

please tell me how to do this in cubase lol

[@Raztix]

same

[@1n3rtia]

This definitely should only be available to NTM subscribers =/

[@pedrorocker1]

yeah =(